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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2008 - 10:13 PM ET #51

    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    i am guessing you had the wrong chavanel.
    i dont understand your odd listings either.  is it husovd 15 to 1 for the win and 3 to 1 for top 3 places?  is that what 15/3 means?

    Yep. $15 for the win and $3 to come top 3.

    I got the right Chavannel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sims_key:

    i am guessing you had the wrong chavanel.
    i dont understand your odd listings either.  is it husovd 15 to 1 for the win and 3 to 1 for top 3 places?  is that what 15/3 means?

    Yep. $15 for the win and $3 to come top 3.

    I got the right Chavannel.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2008 - 10:15 PM ET #52

    Today's time trial. I've had a look at past time trials on the second last day.
     
    1 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team                    1.02.44 (53.068 km/h)
    2 Cadel Evans (Aus) Predictor - Lotto                                            0.51
    3 Vladimir Karpets (Rus) Caisse d'Epargne                                        1.56
    4 Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team                     2.01
    5 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team              2.18
    6 José Ivan Gutierrez Palacios (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne                            2.27
    7 George Hincapie (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team                       2.33
    8 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne                                       2.36
    9 Leif Hoste (Bel) Predictor - Lotto                                             2.48
    10 Mikel Astarloza Chaurreau (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi                           2.50
    11 Thomas Dekker (Ned) Rabobank                                                  2.55
    12 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Team CSC                                                 
    13 Kim Kirchen (Lux) T-Mobile Team                                               3.00
    14 Linus Gerdemann (Ger) T-Mobile Team                                           3.17
    15 Stefan Schumacher (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                             
    16 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Team CSC                                           3.24
    17 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne                            3.37
    18 Sébastien Rosseler (Bel) Quickstep - Innergetic                               3.46
    19 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Team CSC                                          3.58
     
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    Today's time trial. I've had a look at past time trials on the second last day.
     
    1 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team                    1.02.44 (53.068 km/h)
    2 Cadel Evans (Aus) Predictor - Lotto                                            0.51
    3 Vladimir Karpets (Rus) Caisse d'Epargne                                        1.56
    4 Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team                     2.01
    5 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team              2.18
    6 José Ivan Gutierrez Palacios (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne                            2.27
    7 George Hincapie (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team                       2.33
    8 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne                                       2.36
    9 Leif Hoste (Bel) Predictor - Lotto                                             2.48
    10 Mikel Astarloza Chaurreau (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi                           2.50
    11 Thomas Dekker (Ned) Rabobank                                                  2.55
    12 Fabian Cancellara (Swi) Team CSC                                                 
    13 Kim Kirchen (Lux) T-Mobile Team                                               3.00
    14 Linus Gerdemann (Ger) T-Mobile Team                                           3.17
    15 Stefan Schumacher (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                             
    16 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Team CSC                                           3.24
    17 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne                            3.37
    18 Sébastien Rosseler (Bel) Quickstep - Innergetic                               3.46
    19 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Team CSC                                          3.58
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2008 - 10:16 PM ET #53

    Here are the 2006 results

    1 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile                                       1.07.45 (50.48 km/h)
    2 Andreas Klöden (Ger) T-Mobile                                           0.41
    3 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak                                               1.11
    4 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears                      2.40
    5 Sebastian Lang (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                       3.18
    6 David Zabriskie (USA) Team CSC                                          3.35
    7 Viatscheslav Ekimov (Rus) Discovery Channel                             3.41
    8 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto                                          
    9 Bert Grabsch (Ger) Phonak                                               3.43
    10 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital                                   3.44
    11 David Millar (GBr) Saunier Duval                                       4.01
    12 Joost Posthuma (Ned) Rabobank                                          4.03
    13 Marcus Fothen (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                       4.15
    14 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC                                              4.16
    15 Gustav Larsson (Swe) Francaise Des Jeux                                4.21
    16 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Cofidis                                         4.32
    17 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank                                           4.33
    18 Nicolas Portal (Fra) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears                    4.35
    19 Michael Rogers (Aus) T-Mobile                                             
    20 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC                                           4.42

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    Here are the 2006 results

    1 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile                                       1.07.45 (50.48 km/h)
    2 Andreas Klöden (Ger) T-Mobile                                           0.41
    3 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak                                               1.11
    4 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears                      2.40
    5 Sebastian Lang (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                       3.18
    6 David Zabriskie (USA) Team CSC                                          3.35
    7 Viatscheslav Ekimov (Rus) Discovery Channel                             3.41
    8 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto                                          
    9 Bert Grabsch (Ger) Phonak                                               3.43
    10 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital                                   3.44
    11 David Millar (GBr) Saunier Duval                                       4.01
    12 Joost Posthuma (Ned) Rabobank                                          4.03
    13 Marcus Fothen (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                       4.15
    14 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC                                              4.16
    15 Gustav Larsson (Swe) Francaise Des Jeux                                4.21
    16 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Cofidis                                         4.32
    17 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank                                           4.33
    18 Nicolas Portal (Fra) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears                    4.35
    19 Michael Rogers (Aus) T-Mobile                                             
    20 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC                                           4.42

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2008 - 10:17 PM ET #54

    Here are the 2006 results

    1 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile                                       1.07.45 (50.48 km/h)
    2 Andreas Klöden (Ger) T-Mobile                                           0.41
    3 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak                                               1.11
    4 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears                      2.40
    5 Sebastian Lang (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                       3.18
    6 David Zabriskie (USA) Team CSC                                          3.35
    7 Viatscheslav Ekimov (Rus) Discovery Channel                             3.41
    8 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto                                          
    9 Bert Grabsch (Ger) Phonak                                               3.43
    10 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital                                   3.44
    11 David Millar (GBr) Saunier Duval                                       4.01
    12 Joost Posthuma (Ned) Rabobank                                          4.03
    13 Marcus Fothen (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                       4.15
    14 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC                                              4.16
    15 Gustav Larsson (Swe) Francaise Des Jeux                                4.21
    16 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Cofidis                                         4.32
    17 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank                                           4.33
    18 Nicolas Portal (Fra) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears                    4.35
    19 Michael Rogers (Aus) T-Mobile                                             
    20 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC                                           4.42

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    Here are the 2006 results

    1 Serguei Gonchar (Ukr) T-Mobile                                       1.07.45 (50.48 km/h)
    2 Andreas Klöden (Ger) T-Mobile                                           0.41
    3 Floyd Landis (USA) Phonak                                               1.11
    4 Oscar Pereiro (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears                      2.40
    5 Sebastian Lang (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                       3.18
    6 David Zabriskie (USA) Team CSC                                          3.35
    7 Viatscheslav Ekimov (Rus) Discovery Channel                             3.41
    8 Cadel Evans (Aus) Davitamon-Lotto                                          
    9 Bert Grabsch (Ger) Phonak                                               3.43
    10 Damiano Cunego (Ita) Lampre-Fondital                                   3.44
    11 David Millar (GBr) Saunier Duval                                       4.01
    12 Joost Posthuma (Ned) Rabobank                                          4.03
    13 Marcus Fothen (Ger) Gerolsteiner                                       4.15
    14 Jens Voigt (Ger) Team CSC                                              4.16
    15 Gustav Larsson (Swe) Francaise Des Jeux                                4.21
    16 Sylvain Chavanel (Fra) Cofidis                                         4.32
    17 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank                                           4.33
    18 Nicolas Portal (Fra) Caisse d'Epargne-Illes Balears                    4.35
    19 Michael Rogers (Aus) T-Mobile                                             
    20 Carlos Sastre (Spa) Team CSC                                           4.42

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2008 - 10:18 PM ET #55

    Here are the current odds.

    Cancellara $2.50
    Evans $2.85

    No value in Cancellara whatsoever. He will be stuffed after his mountain of work he's done.

    Cadel has never won a TDF time trial and I don't see it today.

    I look at value.

    Schumacher is strong. Very strong. In 2006 Gonchar won both time trials. Schumacher is going for the second.

    Sebastian Lang can time trial and is a very good time trialist. He proved it in 2006 that he can ride well in the third week. He's taken it easy over the mountains.

    Kirchen came second 8 seconds behind Schumacher in the earlier time trial in this years tour and last year, showed a good showing and half those riders aern't there.

    Therefore my bets today.

    Schumacher @ $12
    Kirchen @ $26
    Lang @ $34
    R Grabsch @ $61

    Head to Heads

    Hincapie over Guitterez @ $2.27 - Guitterez has done a lot of work for CSC.

    Clement over Terpstra @ $1.53 - Who the fuck is Terpstra?

    Good luck!

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    Here are the current odds.

    Cancellara $2.50
    Evans $2.85

    No value in Cancellara whatsoever. He will be stuffed after his mountain of work he's done.

    Cadel has never won a TDF time trial and I don't see it today.

    I look at value.

    Schumacher is strong. Very strong. In 2006 Gonchar won both time trials. Schumacher is going for the second.

    Sebastian Lang can time trial and is a very good time trialist. He proved it in 2006 that he can ride well in the third week. He's taken it easy over the mountains.

    Kirchen came second 8 seconds behind Schumacher in the earlier time trial in this years tour and last year, showed a good showing and half those riders aern't there.

    Therefore my bets today.

    Schumacher @ $12
    Kirchen @ $26
    Lang @ $34
    R Grabsch @ $61

    Head to Heads

    Hincapie over Guitterez @ $2.27 - Guitterez has done a lot of work for CSC.

    Clement over Terpstra @ $1.53 - Who the fuck is Terpstra?

    Good luck!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 25, 2008 - 10:19 PM ET #56

    I'm trying to get odds for the white jersey as I'm thinking Kreuziger takes it off Schleck today.
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    I'm trying to get odds for the white jersey as I'm thinking Kreuziger takes it off Schleck today.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 26, 2008 - 1:14 AM ET #57

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    Millar @ $11
    Bruzeghin @ $67
     
    That will keep me interested.
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    Adding
     
    Millar @ $11
    Bruzeghin @ $67
     
    That will keep me interested.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2008 - 12:46 AM ET #58


    And Schumacher wins.

    Today it's pretty easy. Barring Cancellara doing a Vino from 2005, I see this a bunch sprint.

    McEwen has been gunning for a win and finally Lotto will work for him. Cav isn't there so it's McEwen's chance to shine.

    I'm hoping we get our 6th win tonight with Ciolek and he has showed that he can outsprint them all as he's done it a few times already. Second to Cav and gunned it home for third place 2 days ago.

    Large plays on.

    McEwen E/W $5/$2
    Ciolek E/W $6/$2.20

    Small play on

    Cancellara E/W $21/$7

    Been a successful tour.

    Good luck!
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    And Schumacher wins.

    Today it's pretty easy. Barring Cancellara doing a Vino from 2005, I see this a bunch sprint.

    McEwen has been gunning for a win and finally Lotto will work for him. Cav isn't there so it's McEwen's chance to shine.

    I'm hoping we get our 6th win tonight with Ciolek and he has showed that he can outsprint them all as he's done it a few times already. Second to Cav and gunned it home for third place 2 days ago.

    Large plays on.

    McEwen E/W $5/$2
    Ciolek E/W $6/$2.20

    Small play on

    Cancellara E/W $21/$7

    Been a successful tour.

    Good luck!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2008 - 12:46 AM ET #59


    And Schumacher wins.

    Today it's pretty easy. Barring Cancellara doing a Vino from 2005, I see this a bunch sprint.

    McEwen has been gunning for a win and finally Lotto will work for him. Cav isn't there so it's McEwen's chance to shine.

    I'm hoping we get our 6th win tonight with Ciolek and he has showed that he can outsprint them all as he's done it a few times already. Second to Cav and gunned it home for third place 2 days ago.

    Large plays on.

    McEwen E/W $5/$2
    Ciolek E/W $6/$2.20

    Small play on

    Cancellara E/W $21/$7

    Been a successful tour.

    Good luck!
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    And Schumacher wins.

    Today it's pretty easy. Barring Cancellara doing a Vino from 2005, I see this a bunch sprint.

    McEwen has been gunning for a win and finally Lotto will work for him. Cav isn't there so it's McEwen's chance to shine.

    I'm hoping we get our 6th win tonight with Ciolek and he has showed that he can outsprint them all as he's done it a few times already. Second to Cav and gunned it home for third place 2 days ago.

    Large plays on.

    McEwen E/W $5/$2
    Ciolek E/W $6/$2.20

    Small play on

    Cancellara E/W $21/$7

    Been a successful tour.

    Good luck!
     
     
    Bolar
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    Posted: Jul. 27, 2008 - 2:01 AM ET #60

    Scratch that McEwen play.

    This is Zabel's swansong. His last tour. Will want to go out on a high. He wins this stage and retires. It's a fitting end to the champion from Germany and I belive in fitting ends.

    The Credit Agricole, Milram and Columbia team trains have been solid this tour. Silence Lotto will be rusty as they havn't practiced it and may get a little lost with the pace from the 3 main teams.

    I see Zabel, Ciolek and Hushovd 1 2 and 3 today.

    Zabel E/W $15/$3.25

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    Scratch that McEwen play.

    This is Zabel's swansong. His last tour. Will want to go out on a high. He wins this stage and retires. It's a fitting end to the champion from Germany and I belive in fitting ends.

    The Credit Agricole, Milram and Columbia team trains have been solid this tour. Silence Lotto will be rusty as they havn't practiced it and may get a little lost with the pace from the 3 main teams.

    I see Zabel, Ciolek and Hushovd 1 2 and 3 today.

    Zabel E/W $15/$3.25

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