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    PREVIEW

    The following Preview has been sourced from many different sources and feature the top 20 main chances. One of these 20riders will win the Tour. I have done my best to include past history. My opinions are strictly my opinions and no one elses. As the Tour of Switzerland is currently on, I may put more details in here - so I will let you know if I do. The odds are taken from Sportingbet.

    1. Cadel Evans

    Team:Silence Lotto

    Current Odds: $3/$1.40

    The Aussie finished on the podium last year and the year before rode himself into the top 10. I cannot understand why his odds are so short. He is a chance but he won't win. There is value in other riders. He finished second to Valverde in the Dauphine last week and came second in the Flech-Wallone. He won stage 4 in Paris-Nice also this year.
    He has shown he can handle a Grand tours with a 2nd last year, 4th 2006 and 8th 2005. He has also posted a 4th overall in the Veulta last year. The lack of time trial kilometres in this may cost him as I don't believe he is strong enough in the mountains. However, he has the form there. Threat. Consider.

    Prediction: 4th

    2. Alejandro Valverde

    Team:Caisse D'Espargne

    Current Odds: $5/$1.80

    Alejandro set the Dauphine alight with blistering form in the mountains. Won the time trial too in superb fashion. His form this year has been good with a few races he has won including Leige-Bastonge-Leige and he is clearly on form if his Dauphine form is to go by. However there is still a question mark over his grand tour rides over the past few years. In 2005 he beat Lance Armstrong up Alp D'Huez but failed to finish the tour. He failed to finish the tour in 2006 and last year he finished 6th but looked crap. In the Veulta he has finished 2nd in 2006, 4th in 2004 and 3rd in 2003. But his lack of results at the Tour is a worry but has proven he can ride. However he is riding the best I have ever seen him ride and he has a strong backup in his team. There are still doubts over his ability to complete a 3 week race too. Main threat! Consider.

    Prediction: 2nd

    3. Denis Menchov

    Team: Rabobank

    Current Odds $7.50/$2.20

    Denis Menchov is the Tim Henman of Wimbledon. Always up there but no chance of winning. His form has been scratchy at best and I can't see him winning. However, the experience is there so that may count for something. He came 5th in the Giro this year but didn't look spectacular. But that may be because he was concentrating for the Tour and his fitness wasn't there. He won the Veulta in 2007 and 2005 so he has at least 2 grand tours to his name. His tour performances have been white jersey in 2003 and came 6th in 2006. He doesn't have Rasmussen there with him so he is team leader and he has a good team around him. He may be worth having a punt on, but his odds aren't that good.

    Prediction: 9th

    4. Damiano Cunego

    Team: Lampre

    Current Odds $10/$3.25

    Cunego has raced the Tour once before and finished 11th and won the white jersey for the best young riders competition back in 2006. He has his goal set on the tour this year. Has already got a grand tour under his belt so he knows how to win them. He won the Giro in 2004. However his form is a bit worrying in Switzerland at the moment. He was dropped on an easy climb in stage 5. It may or may not be something to look into. He won the Amstel Gold Race earlier this year and finished on the podium in Leige-Bastonge-Leige so he has had a good year and prepared for the Tour. He's had a look at a few stages and one that he wants to win is stage 15 which finishes in Italy. One to beat!

    Prediction: 1st

    5. Andy Schleck

    Team: CSC

    Current Odds: $11/$3.75

    This rider from Luxemberg is talent. He is young, 23 years old but has shown promising signs early in his career. He came second in the Giro last year so knows how to perform in the Grand tours. In 2008 he has come 4th in Leige-Bastonge-Leige and has been thereabouts in Switzerland. The thing with Andy is CSC have 3 riders who are in contention for the Tour. It's hard to tell who will lead them this year. I would say Andy would be the man but his brother Frank and the seasoned veteran Sastre are also candidates. I don't think he has ever participated in the Tour either so based on these reasons I would wait and see what happens with CSC. Respect but hold out!

    Prediction: 7th
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    PREVIEW

    The following Preview has been sourced from many different sources and feature the top 20 main chances. One of these 20riders will win the Tour. I have done my best to include past history. My opinions are strictly my opinions and no one elses. As the Tour of Switzerland is currently on, I may put more details in here - so I will let you know if I do. The odds are taken from Sportingbet.

    1. Cadel Evans

    Team:Silence Lotto

    Current Odds: $3/$1.40

    The Aussie finished on the podium last year and the year before rode himself into the top 10. I cannot understand why his odds are so short. He is a chance but he won't win. There is value in other riders. He finished second to Valverde in the Dauphine last week and came second in the Flech-Wallone. He won stage 4 in Paris-Nice also this year.
    He has shown he can handle a Grand tours with a 2nd last year, 4th 2006 and 8th 2005. He has also posted a 4th overall in the Veulta last year. The lack of time trial kilometres in this may cost him as I don't believe he is strong enough in the mountains. However, he has the form there. Threat. Consider.

    Prediction: 4th

    2. Alejandro Valverde

    Team:Caisse D'Espargne

    Current Odds: $5/$1.80

    Alejandro set the Dauphine alight with blistering form in the mountains. Won the time trial too in superb fashion. His form this year has been good with a few races he has won including Leige-Bastonge-Leige and he is clearly on form if his Dauphine form is to go by. However there is still a question mark over his grand tour rides over the past few years. In 2005 he beat Lance Armstrong up Alp D'Huez but failed to finish the tour. He failed to finish the tour in 2006 and last year he finished 6th but looked crap. In the Veulta he has finished 2nd in 2006, 4th in 2004 and 3rd in 2003. But his lack of results at the Tour is a worry but has proven he can ride. However he is riding the best I have ever seen him ride and he has a strong backup in his team. There are still doubts over his ability to complete a 3 week race too. Main threat! Consider.

    Prediction: 2nd

    3. Denis Menchov

    Team: Rabobank

    Current Odds $7.50/$2.20

    Denis Menchov is the Tim Henman of Wimbledon. Always up there but no chance of winning. His form has been scratchy at best and I can't see him winning. However, the experience is there so that may count for something. He came 5th in the Giro this year but didn't look spectacular. But that may be because he was concentrating for the Tour and his fitness wasn't there. He won the Veulta in 2007 and 2005 so he has at least 2 grand tours to his name. His tour performances have been white jersey in 2003 and came 6th in 2006. He doesn't have Rasmussen there with him so he is team leader and he has a good team around him. He may be worth having a punt on, but his odds aren't that good.

    Prediction: 9th

    4. Damiano Cunego

    Team: Lampre

    Current Odds $10/$3.25

    Cunego has raced the Tour once before and finished 11th and won the white jersey for the best young riders competition back in 2006. He has his goal set on the tour this year. Has already got a grand tour under his belt so he knows how to win them. He won the Giro in 2004. However his form is a bit worrying in Switzerland at the moment. He was dropped on an easy climb in stage 5. It may or may not be something to look into. He won the Amstel Gold Race earlier this year and finished on the podium in Leige-Bastonge-Leige so he has had a good year and prepared for the Tour. He's had a look at a few stages and one that he wants to win is stage 15 which finishes in Italy. One to beat!

    Prediction: 1st

    5. Andy Schleck

    Team: CSC

    Current Odds: $11/$3.75

    This rider from Luxemberg is talent. He is young, 23 years old but has shown promising signs early in his career. He came second in the Giro last year so knows how to perform in the Grand tours. In 2008 he has come 4th in Leige-Bastonge-Leige and has been thereabouts in Switzerland. The thing with Andy is CSC have 3 riders who are in contention for the Tour. It's hard to tell who will lead them this year. I would say Andy would be the man but his brother Frank and the seasoned veteran Sastre are also candidates. I don't think he has ever participated in the Tour either so based on these reasons I would wait and see what happens with CSC. Respect but hold out!

    Prediction: 7th
     
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    6. Carlos Sastre

    Team: CSC

    Current Odds: $15/$4.25

    As with Menchov, Sastre aswell can be considered the Tim Henman of Wimbledon. Up there all the time but no chance of winning. Last year he finished 4th and the year before he finished 3rd so he is always up there. He has also won a Tour de France stage. His results this year are poor and it's hard to read on his form. Yes, I believe he will be up there and may sneak onto the podium but again, he is competing with the Schleck brothers for leadership. With his tour record he needs to be given respect.

    Prediction: 12th

    7. Stijn Devolder

    Team: Quickstep

    Current Odds: $23/$6.50

    This guy has never participated in the tour. He has only done the Vuelta. Came 24th in 2005 and 11th in 2006 with Discovery Channel. He came 3rd in the tour of Switzerland last year. He has posted impressive results this year. He won the Volta ao Algarve and posted 1st in the Time Trial. He came first in the Tour of flanders and won the Tour of Belgium including Stage 4 which was a Time Trial and won the mountains classification. This guy can Time Trial so with the 2 time trials in this years tour he can put some good performances in. His form this year is hard to go past and he has had previous experience in the Veulta. With Boonen testing positive to Cocaine and being barred from the Tour, Quickstep could go in now with a full team to support Devolder. However as this is his first Tour de France I can't see him winning or podium but a top 10 is not out of the question.

    Prediction: 8th

    8. Michael Rogers

    Team: Team Columbia (Former High Road and T-Mobile)

    Current Odds: $26/$7

    Won't be riding the tour due to illness. Instead concentrating on the Time Trial for Beijing. Forget.

    9. Samuel Sanchez

    Team: Euskatel-Euskadi

    Current Odds: $26/$7

    Interesting with this guy. I think he rode Paris-Nice as the only race this year. They are keeping him fresh for the Tour and he's targetting the tour. Armstrong did the same. Always targetted the tour and never raced any races and Sam is following Lance's steps. He has never raced the Tour before but his results over the last few years in the Veulta have been impressinve nonetheless. In 2007 he came third overall and won 3 stages including a time trial so the man can time trial. In 2006 he came 6th in the Veulta and won a stage and in 2005 he came 11th and won a stage so he is familar with Grand tours and how they should be raced. I see this man finishing top 5. He may win, but it's doubtful. Podium possibly. Consider!

    Prediction: 5th

    10. Mauricio Soler

    Team: Barloworld

    Current Odds: $31/$8.50

    This young guy from Columbia stormed onto the scene in the tour last year. Aside from Contador he was the revelation to come out of the tour. He won stage 9 and won the king of the mountains jersey in 2007. He reminds me a bit of Rasmussen and he can do danger if he gets in a break and lasts. To win the tour this year it may take a successful breakaway. He can climb and he knows how to race. There is a bit of a concern about his team. In the Giro he raced poorly due to a crash so it's hard to get a read on his form. Whilst this guy is talent I can't see him getting a podium spot and top 10 looks likely. See how he goes over the first 2 weeks.

    Prediction: 13th

    11. Yaroslav Popovych

    Team: Silence-Lotto

    Current Odds: $36/$9.00

    This guy from Russia is a good talent. However, his main goal will be helping out Evans. He has good form in the Grand tours. In the Giro - 12th in 2002, 3rd 2003, 5th 2004. In the Tour his results are 12th 2005, 25th 2006, 8th 2007. He came third overall in Paris-Nice this year. He can finish top 10 and he may push for podium but it's unlikely. Again with Dekker, if the team leader - in this case, Evans pulls out then this guy may be a shot. Watch!

    Prediction: 17th
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    6. Carlos Sastre

    Team: CSC

    Current Odds: $15/$4.25

    As with Menchov, Sastre aswell can be considered the Tim Henman of Wimbledon. Up there all the time but no chance of winning. Last year he finished 4th and the year before he finished 3rd so he is always up there. He has also won a Tour de France stage. His results this year are poor and it's hard to read on his form. Yes, I believe he will be up there and may sneak onto the podium but again, he is competing with the Schleck brothers for leadership. With his tour record he needs to be given respect.

    Prediction: 12th

    7. Stijn Devolder

    Team: Quickstep

    Current Odds: $23/$6.50

    This guy has never participated in the tour. He has only done the Vuelta. Came 24th in 2005 and 11th in 2006 with Discovery Channel. He came 3rd in the tour of Switzerland last year. He has posted impressive results this year. He won the Volta ao Algarve and posted 1st in the Time Trial. He came first in the Tour of flanders and won the Tour of Belgium including Stage 4 which was a Time Trial and won the mountains classification. This guy can Time Trial so with the 2 time trials in this years tour he can put some good performances in. His form this year is hard to go past and he has had previous experience in the Veulta. With Boonen testing positive to Cocaine and being barred from the Tour, Quickstep could go in now with a full team to support Devolder. However as this is his first Tour de France I can't see him winning or podium but a top 10 is not out of the question.

    Prediction: 8th

    8. Michael Rogers

    Team: Team Columbia (Former High Road and T-Mobile)

    Current Odds: $26/$7

    Won't be riding the tour due to illness. Instead concentrating on the Time Trial for Beijing. Forget.

    9. Samuel Sanchez

    Team: Euskatel-Euskadi

    Current Odds: $26/$7

    Interesting with this guy. I think he rode Paris-Nice as the only race this year. They are keeping him fresh for the Tour and he's targetting the tour. Armstrong did the same. Always targetted the tour and never raced any races and Sam is following Lance's steps. He has never raced the Tour before but his results over the last few years in the Veulta have been impressinve nonetheless. In 2007 he came third overall and won 3 stages including a time trial so the man can time trial. In 2006 he came 6th in the Veulta and won a stage and in 2005 he came 11th and won a stage so he is familar with Grand tours and how they should be raced. I see this man finishing top 5. He may win, but it's doubtful. Podium possibly. Consider!

    Prediction: 5th

    10. Mauricio Soler

    Team: Barloworld

    Current Odds: $31/$8.50

    This young guy from Columbia stormed onto the scene in the tour last year. Aside from Contador he was the revelation to come out of the tour. He won stage 9 and won the king of the mountains jersey in 2007. He reminds me a bit of Rasmussen and he can do danger if he gets in a break and lasts. To win the tour this year it may take a successful breakaway. He can climb and he knows how to race. There is a bit of a concern about his team. In the Giro he raced poorly due to a crash so it's hard to get a read on his form. Whilst this guy is talent I can't see him getting a podium spot and top 10 looks likely. See how he goes over the first 2 weeks.

    Prediction: 13th

    11. Yaroslav Popovych

    Team: Silence-Lotto

    Current Odds: $36/$9.00

    This guy from Russia is a good talent. However, his main goal will be helping out Evans. He has good form in the Grand tours. In the Giro - 12th in 2002, 3rd 2003, 5th 2004. In the Tour his results are 12th 2005, 25th 2006, 8th 2007. He came third overall in Paris-Nice this year. He can finish top 10 and he may push for podium but it's unlikely. Again with Dekker, if the team leader - in this case, Evans pulls out then this guy may be a shot. Watch!

    Prediction: 17th
     
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    12. Ricardo Ricco

    Team: Saulnier-Duval

    Current Odds: $36/$9.00

    I don't think this guy wants to be here. I think I read a few months ago he didn't want to ride the tour. So it's hard to get a read on this guy. He came second overall in the Giro and won two stages this year and last year he came 6th. So he can perform on the big stage. If this guy's head is in it, he can do damage. He is a dangerous rider and a possibility to be in contention. But hard to tell. Consider!

    Prediction: 18th

    13. Oscar Peirero

    Team: Caisse D'Espargne

    Current Odds: $41/$10

    His main job this year will be helping out leader Valverde. However he has had success at the Tour before. He won the 2006 race after Floyd Landis got the title stripped off him. His performances in the Tour have been 10th in 2004 and 2005. First 2006 and 10th 2007. He only won in 2006 because he was in a breakaway that the peloton let escape. This guy is a breakaway specialist thus I can't see him challenging for the win or the podium unless Valverde crashes out. Even then I don't think he is good enough for top 5. Top 10 - more than likely. Watch him win a stage or two this year in a breakaway as he will be in some breakaways. Watch!

    Prediction: 19th

    14. Frank Schleck

    Team: CSC

    Current Odds: $46/$11

    Unlike Andy, Frank has posted decent results this year and in previous years. He is talent aswell. He came second in the Amstel Gold and 3rd in Leige-Bastonge-Leige. He has had impressive results in other races but hasn't broken through to win a race yet this year. In the tour last year he came 17th. In 2006 he won stage 15 in the Tour and came 11th. So he has had experience in the Tour. In the tour of switzerland he crashed on a decent in stage 5 but escaped serious injury so there are question marks over his descending. However aside from that his form this year has been solid and his performances in the Tour in previous years he warrants value. Again, it's hard to tell who will lead CSC. But with odds like these he is worth a ponder and these 3 CSC boys should all finish top 10.

    Prediction: 14th

    15. Christophe Moreau

    Team: Agritubel

    Current Odds: $51/$12

    He was expected to race well last year but failed to do so. He is a veteran of the Tour. Won the Dauphine last year and has had no major results in 2008 to speak of so he probably has been concentrating solely on the Tour. His tour performances are as follows. 4th in 2000, 8th 2003, 12th 2004, 11th 2005, 8th 2006. He has had good results in the Dauphine too. This guy knows how to ride the tour but I can't see him challenging for the win as he is 37 years of age and it's probably beyond him. May push for a podium with experience but doubtful. Ignore.

    Prediction: 20th

    16. Haimar Zubeldia

    Team: Euskadel-Euskadi

    Current Odds: $51/$12

    Suddenly Euskadel is looking strong with Zubeldia and Sanchez - I expect both these riders to ride well and finish strongly. He is battling for leadership with Sanchez but this guy is class and has proven results in the tour. He has raced the tour 7 times so he is familar with the tour. 2001 he was 73rd, 2002 he was 39th, 2003 he was 5th, 2004 he didn't finish, 2005 he was 15th, 2006 he was 8th and 2007 he was 5th. He has also come 10th in the Veulta. He has done nothing of note in 2008 but his results in the Tour, particularly last year suggests he may go a long way to challenging. He is a possiblity to podium if things go his way. At these odds may be worth a small punt. Will finish top 10.

    Prediction: 6th

    17. Linus Gerdemann

    Team: Columbia (Former high road and T-Mobile)

    Current Odds: $51/$12

    Crashed earlier on in the year - broke his leg and suffered knee injuries. Won't be riding the tour and won't be riding the Olympics which is a shame for this talented man.
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    12. Ricardo Ricco

    Team: Saulnier-Duval

    Current Odds: $36/$9.00

    I don't think this guy wants to be here. I think I read a few months ago he didn't want to ride the tour. So it's hard to get a read on this guy. He came second overall in the Giro and won two stages this year and last year he came 6th. So he can perform on the big stage. If this guy's head is in it, he can do damage. He is a dangerous rider and a possibility to be in contention. But hard to tell. Consider!

    Prediction: 18th

    13. Oscar Peirero

    Team: Caisse D'Espargne

    Current Odds: $41/$10

    His main job this year will be helping out leader Valverde. However he has had success at the Tour before. He won the 2006 race after Floyd Landis got the title stripped off him. His performances in the Tour have been 10th in 2004 and 2005. First 2006 and 10th 2007. He only won in 2006 because he was in a breakaway that the peloton let escape. This guy is a breakaway specialist thus I can't see him challenging for the win or the podium unless Valverde crashes out. Even then I don't think he is good enough for top 5. Top 10 - more than likely. Watch him win a stage or two this year in a breakaway as he will be in some breakaways. Watch!

    Prediction: 19th

    14. Frank Schleck

    Team: CSC

    Current Odds: $46/$11

    Unlike Andy, Frank has posted decent results this year and in previous years. He is talent aswell. He came second in the Amstel Gold and 3rd in Leige-Bastonge-Leige. He has had impressive results in other races but hasn't broken through to win a race yet this year. In the tour last year he came 17th. In 2006 he won stage 15 in the Tour and came 11th. So he has had experience in the Tour. In the tour of switzerland he crashed on a decent in stage 5 but escaped serious injury so there are question marks over his descending. However aside from that his form this year has been solid and his performances in the Tour in previous years he warrants value. Again, it's hard to tell who will lead CSC. But with odds like these he is worth a ponder and these 3 CSC boys should all finish top 10.

    Prediction: 14th

    15. Christophe Moreau

    Team: Agritubel

    Current Odds: $51/$12

    He was expected to race well last year but failed to do so. He is a veteran of the Tour. Won the Dauphine last year and has had no major results in 2008 to speak of so he probably has been concentrating solely on the Tour. His tour performances are as follows. 4th in 2000, 8th 2003, 12th 2004, 11th 2005, 8th 2006. He has had good results in the Dauphine too. This guy knows how to ride the tour but I can't see him challenging for the win as he is 37 years of age and it's probably beyond him. May push for a podium with experience but doubtful. Ignore.

    Prediction: 20th

    16. Haimar Zubeldia

    Team: Euskadel-Euskadi

    Current Odds: $51/$12

    Suddenly Euskadel is looking strong with Zubeldia and Sanchez - I expect both these riders to ride well and finish strongly. He is battling for leadership with Sanchez but this guy is class and has proven results in the tour. He has raced the tour 7 times so he is familar with the tour. 2001 he was 73rd, 2002 he was 39th, 2003 he was 5th, 2004 he didn't finish, 2005 he was 15th, 2006 he was 8th and 2007 he was 5th. He has also come 10th in the Veulta. He has done nothing of note in 2008 but his results in the Tour, particularly last year suggests he may go a long way to challenging. He is a possiblity to podium if things go his way. At these odds may be worth a small punt. Will finish top 10.

    Prediction: 6th

    17. Linus Gerdemann

    Team: Columbia (Former high road and T-Mobile)

    Current Odds: $51/$12

    Crashed earlier on in the year - broke his leg and suffered knee injuries. Won't be riding the tour and won't be riding the Olympics which is a shame for this talented man.
     
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    18. Kim Kirchen

    Team: Columbia (Former high road and T-Mobile)

    Current Odds: $76/$23

    No joke! They are his odds. Gerdemann isn't racing and Rogers is racing so this guy is team leader. Also take note that he has an allie in George Hincapie who helped Lance Armstrong and was impressive for Contador last year. So this guy has been involved in 8 wins in the last decade. Kirchen also has young swede Lovqvist aswell who is riding extremely well in Switzerland with Kirchen. He also has talented Belarus rider Siutsou who came 6th in the young riders classification last year. After Rogers crashed out last year, Kirchen took on leadership roles and finished 7th. His tour performances have been 63rd in 2004, abandoned in 2005 and last year 7th. He won stage 15 last year after Vinokourov's stage win was stripped. This year, Kirchen has ridden well and he is one of the form men who can challenge for Tour honours. He came first this year in La Fleche-Wallone and won last nights gruelling stage which finished on a cat 1 climb in the Tour of Switzerland over favourites such as the Schleck brothers and Cunego. He assumed the leaders jersey for 2 days then on an uphill TT lost it. However, his form is there and he will learn from holding a leaders jersey - something he hasn't done in a major race ever. He needs to learn from it because he will have yellow at some stage during the tour - hopefully at the end.
    His goal is top 5 for the Tour but I think he can win. At a prime age of 29 with a good team. These odds are way over. Main threat. Don't discount.

    Prediction: 3rd

    19. Vladimir Karpets

    Team: Caisse D'Espargne

    Current Odds:Unknown

    Will be riding for Valverde. However, this 27 year old Russian is talent. His tour performances have been 100th in 2003, 13th in 2004 and won the young rider jersey. He came 7th in the Veulta last year and won Switzerland last year. Hasn't done anything of note this year so if you back him, you back him blind. And considering he is second in line to Valverde, I honestly can't see him winning. He may podium but that's it. Watch

    Prediction: 16th

    20. Christian Vande Velde

    Team:Slipstream

    Current Odds:Unknown

    Christian Vande Velde comes to the Tour riding for Slipstream who in their first year was given an invite to race. He has been confirmed as slipstreams team leader. He was ridden the Tour once before and that was in 2006 when he came 24th overall. He will be hoping to top 20 and possibly push to top 10.

    Prediction: 20th

    21. Juan Jose Cobo

    Team: Saulnier-Duval

    Current Odds: Unknown.

    Chances are he will be team leader as I don't think Ricco's heart is in it. He is targetting top 10. He is young and can climb. He came 20th in the Tour last year and missed out on a few stage wins. He can time trial too. Last year in the Vuelta al País Vasco he won the GC including 2 stages. He will surprise this year and finish top 10 but probably won't challenge for the podium. Look for him to win a stage or two. A rank outsider.

    Prediction: 10th

    OUTSIDER

    1. Luis Leon Sanchez

    Team: Caisse D'Espargne

    Current Odds: Unknown.

    A young spanish rider and will be helping Valverde. Watch him for stage wins. He won stage 7 of Paris-Nice this year in a good performance in which he broke away on the final climb and descended well for the Victory. Look for a similar outcome in the Tour. Could finish top 10 but may take a stage win or two. I rate this guy.

    Prediction: 21st
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    18. Kim Kirchen

    Team: Columbia (Former high road and T-Mobile)

    Current Odds: $76/$23

    No joke! They are his odds. Gerdemann isn't racing and Rogers is racing so this guy is team leader. Also take note that he has an allie in George Hincapie who helped Lance Armstrong and was impressive for Contador last year. So this guy has been involved in 8 wins in the last decade. Kirchen also has young swede Lovqvist aswell who is riding extremely well in Switzerland with Kirchen. He also has talented Belarus rider Siutsou who came 6th in the young riders classification last year. After Rogers crashed out last year, Kirchen took on leadership roles and finished 7th. His tour performances have been 63rd in 2004, abandoned in 2005 and last year 7th. He won stage 15 last year after Vinokourov's stage win was stripped. This year, Kirchen has ridden well and he is one of the form men who can challenge for Tour honours. He came first this year in La Fleche-Wallone and won last nights gruelling stage which finished on a cat 1 climb in the Tour of Switzerland over favourites such as the Schleck brothers and Cunego. He assumed the leaders jersey for 2 days then on an uphill TT lost it. However, his form is there and he will learn from holding a leaders jersey - something he hasn't done in a major race ever. He needs to learn from it because he will have yellow at some stage during the tour - hopefully at the end.
    His goal is top 5 for the Tour but I think he can win. At a prime age of 29 with a good team. These odds are way over. Main threat. Don't discount.

    Prediction: 3rd

    19. Vladimir Karpets

    Team: Caisse D'Espargne

    Current Odds:Unknown

    Will be riding for Valverde. However, this 27 year old Russian is talent. His tour performances have been 100th in 2003, 13th in 2004 and won the young rider jersey. He came 7th in the Veulta last year and won Switzerland last year. Hasn't done anything of note this year so if you back him, you back him blind. And considering he is second in line to Valverde, I honestly can't see him winning. He may podium but that's it. Watch

    Prediction: 16th

    20. Christian Vande Velde

    Team:Slipstream

    Current Odds:Unknown

    Christian Vande Velde comes to the Tour riding for Slipstream who in their first year was given an invite to race. He has been confirmed as slipstreams team leader. He was ridden the Tour once before and that was in 2006 when he came 24th overall. He will be hoping to top 20 and possibly push to top 10.

    Prediction: 20th

    21. Juan Jose Cobo

    Team: Saulnier-Duval

    Current Odds: Unknown.

    Chances are he will be team leader as I don't think Ricco's heart is in it. He is targetting top 10. He is young and can climb. He came 20th in the Tour last year and missed out on a few stage wins. He can time trial too. Last year in the Vuelta al País Vasco he won the GC including 2 stages. He will surprise this year and finish top 10 but probably won't challenge for the podium. Look for him to win a stage or two. A rank outsider.

    Prediction: 10th

    OUTSIDER

    1. Luis Leon Sanchez

    Team: Caisse D'Espargne

    Current Odds: Unknown.

    A young spanish rider and will be helping Valverde. Watch him for stage wins. He won stage 7 of Paris-Nice this year in a good performance in which he broke away on the final climb and descended well for the Victory. Look for a similar outcome in the Tour. Could finish top 10 but may take a stage win or two. I rate this guy.

    Prediction: 21st
     
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    1. Damiano Cunego
    2. Alejandro Valverde
    3. Kim Kirchen
    4. Cadel Evans
    5. Samuel Sanchez
    6. Haimar Zubeldia
    7. Andy Schleck
    8. Stijn Devolder
    9. Denis Menchov
    10. Juan Jose Cobo
    11. Mauricio Soler
    12. Carlos Sastre
    13. Frank Schleck
    14. Ricardo Ricco
    15. Vladimir Karpets
    16. Yaroslav Popovych
    17. Oscar Perero
    18. Chrisophe Moreau
    19. Christain Vande Velde
    20. Luis Leon Sanchez

    Value Bets

    Kim Kirchen - Each Way
    Haimar Zubeldia - Podium
    Frank Schleck - Podium
    Samuel Sanchez - Each Way
    Damiano Cunego - Each Way

    Current Outright Bets

    Kim Kirchen E/W $50/$100 @ $76/$23
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    1. Damiano Cunego
    2. Alejandro Valverde
    3. Kim Kirchen
    4. Cadel Evans
    5. Samuel Sanchez
    6. Haimar Zubeldia
    7. Andy Schleck
    8. Stijn Devolder
    9. Denis Menchov
    10. Juan Jose Cobo
    11. Mauricio Soler
    12. Carlos Sastre
    13. Frank Schleck
    14. Ricardo Ricco
    15. Vladimir Karpets
    16. Yaroslav Popovych
    17. Oscar Perero
    18. Chrisophe Moreau
    19. Christain Vande Velde
    20. Luis Leon Sanchez

    Value Bets

    Kim Kirchen - Each Way
    Haimar Zubeldia - Podium
    Frank Schleck - Podium
    Samuel Sanchez - Each Way
    Damiano Cunego - Each Way

    Current Outright Bets

    Kim Kirchen E/W $50/$100 @ $76/$23
     
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    Stage 1 tonight is a tough one to work out. Everyone will want yellow. The question remains who wants it more? Valverde said that he's not fazed if he gets it so he is ultimately favourite tonight. But then you look at the uphill finish and look at things in the bigger picture and would Valverde really want to defend yellow this early? Armstrong never wanted to.

    There are a few winners I pinpoint tonight. If it's a bunch, then Valverde will have the legs to outsprint everyone on the hill.

    Pozzato is no mug in a bunch sprint on a hill

    Steegmens is targetting stage 1

    Voeckler also mentioned he wouldn't mind stage 1.

    Freire, Gilbert, Flecha are also chances and of course the breakaway specialist in Voigt. The veteran may want yellow.

    Cancellara - my original tip was him but he might save his energy for stage 4. But I think Cancellara will do a chrono in the last few k's and run away with it. He's done that a lot this year and this man is my main tip.

    It's wide open and hard to bet.
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    Stage 1 tonight is a tough one to work out. Everyone will want yellow. The question remains who wants it more? Valverde said that he's not fazed if he gets it so he is ultimately favourite tonight. But then you look at the uphill finish and look at things in the bigger picture and would Valverde really want to defend yellow this early? Armstrong never wanted to.

    There are a few winners I pinpoint tonight. If it's a bunch, then Valverde will have the legs to outsprint everyone on the hill.

    Pozzato is no mug in a bunch sprint on a hill

    Steegmens is targetting stage 1

    Voeckler also mentioned he wouldn't mind stage 1.

    Freire, Gilbert, Flecha are also chances and of course the breakaway specialist in Voigt. The veteran may want yellow.

    Cancellara - my original tip was him but he might save his energy for stage 4. But I think Cancellara will do a chrono in the last few k's and run away with it. He's done that a lot this year and this man is my main tip.

    It's wide open and hard to bet.
     
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    Posted: Jul. 4, 2008 - 10:02 PM ET #7

    Outright bets!
     
    Yellow Jersey
     
    Kirchen - Each Way @ $76/$23
     
    Cunego - Each Way @ $11/$3.25
     
    Green Jersey
     
    Erik Zabel @ $9 - Zabel was strong in the Giro and this is his swan song. More than likely will say farewell to cycling after the Tour. One last chance for him to grab green.
     
    Mark Cavendish @ $15 - If he decides to stay for the 3 weeks - he has the green. He is the fastest man there and has a good team to back him up.
     
    White Jersey
     
    Andy Schleck @ $2.25 - Are they serious? He's up against Kreuziger who has shown a lot but won't finish, Soler who's form is crap, Ricco who doesn't want to be there, Monfort, Gregorio, Nibali and Lovkvist - Lovkvist can be a threat. If Schleck pulls out then there is value in Lovkvist. Schleck is top 10 material. Best rider there. Double your money whilst you can.
     
    Polka Dot Jersey
     
    Soler @ $3 - this guy showed his stuff last year. Again, he will do the same. Similar to Rasmussen in his early years as he isn't a yellow challenger and may target the polka dot jersey.
     
    Piepoli @ $8 - small play at this point in time. His price might go in.
     
     
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    Outright bets!
     
    Yellow Jersey
     
    Kirchen - Each Way @ $76/$23
     
    Cunego - Each Way @ $11/$3.25
     
    Green Jersey
     
    Erik Zabel @ $9 - Zabel was strong in the Giro and this is his swan song. More than likely will say farewell to cycling after the Tour. One last chance for him to grab green.
     
    Mark Cavendish @ $15 - If he decides to stay for the 3 weeks - he has the green. He is the fastest man there and has a good team to back him up.
     
    White Jersey
     
    Andy Schleck @ $2.25 - Are they serious? He's up against Kreuziger who has shown a lot but won't finish, Soler who's form is crap, Ricco who doesn't want to be there, Monfort, Gregorio, Nibali and Lovkvist - Lovkvist can be a threat. If Schleck pulls out then there is value in Lovkvist. Schleck is top 10 material. Best rider there. Double your money whilst you can.
     
    Polka Dot Jersey
     
    Soler @ $3 - this guy showed his stuff last year. Again, he will do the same. Similar to Rasmussen in his early years as he isn't a yellow challenger and may target the polka dot jersey.
     
    Piepoli @ $8 - small play at this point in time. His price might go in.
     
     
     
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    Top 10 finish
     
    Kirchen @ $1.85
     
    Cobo @ $3.50
     
    Head to Heads on General Classification
     
    Valverde over Sastre @ $1.58
    Valverde over Evans @ $2.55
    Cunego over Sastre @ $2.05
    Cobo over Kreuziger @ $1.85 - BIG PLAY
    Kirchen over Zubeldia @ $2.25
    Kirchen over Astraloza @ $1.66
    Kirchen over Popovych @ $1.60 - LOL
    Sanchez over Ricco @ $1.60
    Lovkvist over Fothen @ $1.75
     
    Team Classfication

    Columbia over Quickstep @ $1.85 - Kirchen, Lovkvist, Siutsou, Hincapie V Devolder
     
    To wear yellow jersey
     
    Cunego to wear it @ $3
    Evans not to wear it @ $2.70
    Cancellara to wear it @ $1.95 - If not tonight, in the time trial on Tuesday.
     
    Winning margin
     
    Less than 1 minute @ $2.50
     
    Stage Victories
     
    Valverde over 1.5 @ $2
    Evans under 0.5 @ $1.75
    Cancellara over 0.5 @ $1.45
    Freire over 0.5 @ $1.45
    Zabel over 0.5 @ $3
    Cavendish over 0.5 @ $1.75
     
    Team Stage Victories
     
    Columbia over 1.5 @ $1.60
     
    Overall groups of 3
     
    Kirchen over Devolder and F Schleck @ $2.40
     
     
    That's enough outrights for me.
     
    Good luck!
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Top 10 finish
     
    Kirchen @ $1.85
     
    Cobo @ $3.50
     
    Head to Heads on General Classification
     
    Valverde over Sastre @ $1.58
    Valverde over Evans @ $2.55
    Cunego over Sastre @ $2.05
    Cobo over Kreuziger @ $1.85 - BIG PLAY
    Kirchen over Zubeldia @ $2.25
    Kirchen over Astraloza @ $1.66
    Kirchen over Popovych @ $1.60 - LOL
    Sanchez over Ricco @ $1.60
    Lovkvist over Fothen @ $1.75
     
    Team Classfication

    Columbia over Quickstep @ $1.85 - Kirchen, Lovkvist, Siutsou, Hincapie V Devolder
     
    To wear yellow jersey
     
    Cunego to wear it @ $3
    Evans not to wear it @ $2.70
    Cancellara to wear it @ $1.95 - If not tonight, in the time trial on Tuesday.
     
    Winning margin
     
    Less than 1 minute @ $2.50
     
    Stage Victories
     
    Valverde over 1.5 @ $2
    Evans under 0.5 @ $1.75
    Cancellara over 0.5 @ $1.45
    Freire over 0.5 @ $1.45
    Zabel over 0.5 @ $3
    Cavendish over 0.5 @ $1.75
     
    Team Stage Victories
     
    Columbia over 1.5 @ $1.60
     
    Overall groups of 3
     
    Kirchen over Devolder and F Schleck @ $2.40
     
     
    That's enough outrights for me.
     
    Good luck!
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Onto the tour itself I have a bankroll of $3000

    Stage 1 - small plays!

    $50 Cancellara Each Way $14/$4.50
    $50 Freire Each Way $7.50/$2.50
    $10 Voekler Each Way $81/$23


    $220 wagered.
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    $40 Kirchen Each Way $12/$3.50 - he says stage 1 is suitable for him apparently.

    Steegmans over Zabel @ $2.13

    Good luck!
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    Onto the tour itself I have a bankroll of $3000

    Stage 1 - small plays!

    $50 Cancellara Each Way $14/$4.50
    $50 Freire Each Way $7.50/$2.50
    $10 Voekler Each Way $81/$23


    $220 wagered.
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    $40 Kirchen Each Way $12/$3.50 - he says stage 1 is suitable for him apparently.

    Steegmans over Zabel @ $2.13

    Good luck!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Onto the tour itself I have a bankroll of $3000

    Stage 1 - small plays!

    $50 Cancellara Each Way $14/$4.50
    $50 Freire Each Way $7.50/$2.50
    $10 Voekler Each Way $81/$23


    $220 wagered.
    Adding

    $40 Kirchen Each Way $12/$3.50 - he says stage 1 is suitable for him apparently.

    Steegmans over Zabel @ $2.13

    Good luck!

    I had that $50 on Steegmens but all bets lost. Down $350 but not fazed at all. Stage 1, all small bets. Kirchen nearly won, came 4th, Voekler was in the break and Cancellara and Freire came in the top 15. So good signs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Onto the tour itself I have a bankroll of $3000

    Stage 1 - small plays!

    $50 Cancellara Each Way $14/$4.50
    $50 Freire Each Way $7.50/$2.50
    $10 Voekler Each Way $81/$23


    $220 wagered.
    Adding

    $40 Kirchen Each Way $12/$3.50 - he says stage 1 is suitable for him apparently.

    Steegmans over Zabel @ $2.13

    Good luck!

    I had that $50 on Steegmens but all bets lost. Down $350 but not fazed at all. Stage 1, all small bets. Kirchen nearly won, came 4th, Voekler was in the break and Cancellara and Freire came in the top 15. So good signs!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2008 - 2:48 AM ET #11

    Now that Soler is injured, it's time to put money on Piepoli. $300 on Piepoli @ $10 to win $2700 for the KOM.
     
    Other value in De la Fuente @ $16, Chavannel @ $23, Dessel @ $14 and Moreau @ $8
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    Now that Soler is injured, it's time to put money on Piepoli. $300 on Piepoli @ $10 to win $2700 for the KOM.
     
    Other value in De la Fuente @ $16, Chavannel @ $23, Dessel @ $14 and Moreau @ $8
     
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    Today is all about Cavendish. The Columbia train looked well organised and they will dominate like they did the Giro.
     
    $150 E/W on Cavendish @ $10/$3.50
    $50 on Pozzato to podium @ $4
     
    Good luck!
     
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    Today is all about Cavendish. The Columbia train looked well organised and they will dominate like they did the Giro.
     
    $150 E/W on Cavendish @ $10/$3.50
    $50 on Pozzato to podium @ $4
     
    Good luck!
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 6, 2008 - 2:56 AM ET #13

    Actually whilst there's value in Cavendish, I'll be putting an extra $50 each way on him to make it $200 each way and $450 wagered for the day!
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    Actually whilst there's value in Cavendish, I'll be putting an extra $50 each way on him to make it $200 each way and $450 wagered for the day!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2008 - 2:49 AM ET #14

    Fucking swiss moron Cancellara. Fucked it all up. He may try and fuck it all up today too coz there is a small 2m rise in the last 2km but that is fuck all. It's CAVENDISH today! If I knew that stage was as steep as that, I wouldn't have put money on Cavendish. But it's relatively flat today so it should be Cavendish to take it away.

    Also there is no doubt in my mind that Kirchen, Valverde and Evans will fight out the yellow. Kirchen is proving he is in form and I know he can hold it as there will be a few relaxing days - also with Valverde. It's nonsense that Valverde is peaking too early. He's just staying safe in the front of the peloton as this terrain in the first 2 stages suited him - same with Kirchen as he was on Valverde's wheel in the last few km's and decided to go it as it was his terrain. He will sit back in the peloton today and follow Valverde. If the time bonuses were around, Kirchen would be in yellow.

    I also might have to change my mind on the young rider classification. I didn't realise Luis Leon Sanchez was under 25.

    Today

    $200 Cavendish Each Way @ $5.50/$.90
    $100 Freire Each Way @ $6.50/$2.20

    Top 3

    1. Cavendish
    2. Freire
    3. Hushovd

    Good luck!


    Good luck
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    Fucking swiss moron Cancellara. Fucked it all up. He may try and fuck it all up today too coz there is a small 2m rise in the last 2km but that is fuck all. It's CAVENDISH today! If I knew that stage was as steep as that, I wouldn't have put money on Cavendish. But it's relatively flat today so it should be Cavendish to take it away.

    Also there is no doubt in my mind that Kirchen, Valverde and Evans will fight out the yellow. Kirchen is proving he is in form and I know he can hold it as there will be a few relaxing days - also with Valverde. It's nonsense that Valverde is peaking too early. He's just staying safe in the front of the peloton as this terrain in the first 2 stages suited him - same with Kirchen as he was on Valverde's wheel in the last few km's and decided to go it as it was his terrain. He will sit back in the peloton today and follow Valverde. If the time bonuses were around, Kirchen would be in yellow.

    I also might have to change my mind on the young rider classification. I didn't realise Luis Leon Sanchez was under 25.

    Today

    $200 Cavendish Each Way @ $5.50/$.90
    $100 Freire Each Way @ $6.50/$2.20

    Top 3

    1. Cavendish
    2. Freire
    3. Hushovd

    Good luck!


    Good luck
     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2008 - 3:09 AM ET #15

    $20 for the win on Kirchen @ $31
    $30 for the place on Kirchen @ $10

    The rise is 0.4% over the last 500m. If it's too tough for the sprinters, Kirchen is gunning for a stage win.

    Head to heads

    Cavendish over McEwen @ $1.83

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    $20 for the win on Kirchen @ $31
    $30 for the place on Kirchen @ $10

    The rise is 0.4% over the last 500m. If it's too tough for the sprinters, Kirchen is gunning for a stage win.

    Head to heads

    Cavendish over McEwen @ $1.83

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2008 - 3:58 AM ET #16

    Nice write up. Best of luck!
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    Nice write up. Best of luck!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:



    9. Samuel Sanchez

    Team: Euskatel-Euskadi

    Current Odds: $26/$7

    Interesting with this guy. I think he rode Paris-Nice as the only race this year. They are keeping him fresh for the Tour and he's targetting the tour. Armstrong did the same. Always targetted the tour and never raced any races and Sam is following Lance's steps. He has never raced the Tour before but his results over the last few years in the Veulta have been impressinve nonetheless. In 2007 he came third overall and won 3 stages including a time trial so the man can time trial. In 2006 he came 6th in the Veulta and won a stage and in 2005 he came 11th and won a stage so he is familar with Grand tours and how they should be raced. I see this man finishing top 5. He may win, but it's doubtful. Podium possibly. Consider!

    Prediction: 5th

    Taken him each way. Like him

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:



    9. Samuel Sanchez

    Team: Euskatel-Euskadi

    Current Odds: $26/$7

    Interesting with this guy. I think he rode Paris-Nice as the only race this year. They are keeping him fresh for the Tour and he's targetting the tour. Armstrong did the same. Always targetted the tour and never raced any races and Sam is following Lance's steps. He has never raced the Tour before but his results over the last few years in the Veulta have been impressinve nonetheless. In 2007 he came third overall and won 3 stages including a time trial so the man can time trial. In 2006 he came 6th in the Veulta and won a stage and in 2005 he came 11th and won a stage so he is familar with Grand tours and how they should be raced. I see this man finishing top 5. He may win, but it's doubtful. Podium possibly. Consider!

    Prediction: 5th

    Taken him each way. Like him

     
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    Posted: Jul. 7, 2008 - 9:08 AM ET #18

    How do you think Cavendish is sitting now?
     
    Blindly tailed and put him in a multi with first leg getting up. Stand to win $550 off $25.
     
    Go Cavendish!
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    How do you think Cavendish is sitting now?
     
    Blindly tailed and put him in a multi with first leg getting up. Stand to win $550 off $25.
     
    Go Cavendish!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2008 - 3:06 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by muzza:

    How do you think Cavendish is sitting now?
     
    Blindly tailed and put him in a multi with first leg getting up. Stand to win $550 off $25.
     
    Go Cavendish!

    What do you mean? What did you bet?

    Cavendish won't win the green jersey - has no chance now so I expect him to pull out next week to concentrate on the Olympics!

    Tonight's stage, a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by muzza:

    How do you think Cavendish is sitting now?
     
    Blindly tailed and put him in a multi with first leg getting up. Stand to win $550 off $25.
     
    Go Cavendish!

    What do you mean? What did you bet?

    Cavendish won't win the green jersey - has no chance now so I expect him to pull out next week to concentrate on the Olympics!

    Tonight's stage, a possibility.

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2008 - 3:06 AM ET #20

    I don't think tonight's stage is a bunch sprint. The peloton couldn't organise a fight in a fight club. However, I am going to cover all bases here. Time for a fucking win!

    Also, the sprinters have lost an ally in Columbia.

    Now that Kirchen is technically in Yellow and is in Green, Columbia need to protect him and he needs to protect his green jersey so I highly doubt Columbia will be doing pace setting tonight! If I was team director at the tour, I would tell 6 riders to blanket Kirchen and try and set Cavendish and Ciolek in the breakaway. That's how I would do stage 5 if I was in the right position. And that's exactly what Columbia should do!

    It's in Columbia's and Kirchen's best interest to not help the bunch sprint happen tonight. Let the other teams do the work, and there's no many.

    After seeing stage 3 be fucked up and stage 2 nearly being fucked up, I'm on the following today - just for the sake of it! Last time I predicted a breakaway win was Voigt in the Giro.

    To cover the break! $110 wagered on!

    $10 E/W Gilbert $31/$9
    $10 E/W Voigt $41/$12.50
    $10 E/W Voeckler $126/$36
    $10 E/W Casar $151/$41

    $10 E/W Seb Chavannel $31/$9
    $5 E/W Syl Chavannel $67/$15
    $5 E/W Domoulin $101/$31

    To cover the sprint finish.

    $100 E/W Cavendish $5/$1.90

    If a breakaway survives and none of those riders above are in it, I will be one pissed off man!

    Voeckler and Casar are the good prices!
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    I don't think tonight's stage is a bunch sprint. The peloton couldn't organise a fight in a fight club. However, I am going to cover all bases here. Time for a fucking win!

    Also, the sprinters have lost an ally in Columbia.

    Now that Kirchen is technically in Yellow and is in Green, Columbia need to protect him and he needs to protect his green jersey so I highly doubt Columbia will be doing pace setting tonight! If I was team director at the tour, I would tell 6 riders to blanket Kirchen and try and set Cavendish and Ciolek in the breakaway. That's how I would do stage 5 if I was in the right position. And that's exactly what Columbia should do!

    It's in Columbia's and Kirchen's best interest to not help the bunch sprint happen tonight. Let the other teams do the work, and there's no many.

    After seeing stage 3 be fucked up and stage 2 nearly being fucked up, I'm on the following today - just for the sake of it! Last time I predicted a breakaway win was Voigt in the Giro.

    To cover the break! $110 wagered on!

    $10 E/W Gilbert $31/$9
    $10 E/W Voigt $41/$12.50
    $10 E/W Voeckler $126/$36
    $10 E/W Casar $151/$41

    $10 E/W Seb Chavannel $31/$9
    $5 E/W Syl Chavannel $67/$15
    $5 E/W Domoulin $101/$31

    To cover the sprint finish.

    $100 E/W Cavendish $5/$1.90

    If a breakaway survives and none of those riders above are in it, I will be one pissed off man!

    Voeckler and Casar are the good prices!
     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2008 - 5:09 AM ET #21

    I bet Cavendish to win Stage 3 but didn't get the cash. Goodluck with your bets tonight

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    I bet Cavendish to win Stage 3 but didn't get the cash. Goodluck with your bets tonight

     
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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2008 - 5:56 PM ET #22

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    Posted: Jul. 9, 2008 - 10:05 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    I don't think tonight's stage is a bunch sprint. The peloton couldn't organise a fight in a fight club. However, I am going to cover all bases here. Time for a fucking win!

    Also, the sprinters have lost an ally in Columbia.

    Now that Kirchen is technically in Yellow and is in Green, Columbia need to protect him and he needs to protect his green jersey so I highly doubt Columbia will be doing pace setting tonight! If I was team director at the tour, I would tell 6 riders to blanket Kirchen and try and set Cavendish and Ciolek in the breakaway. That's how I would do stage 5 if I was in the right position. And that's exactly what Columbia should do!

    It's in Columbia's and Kirchen's best interest to not help the bunch sprint happen tonight. Let the other teams do the work, and there's no many.

    After seeing stage 3 be fucked up and stage 2 nearly being fucked up, I'm on the following today - just for the sake of it! Last time I predicted a breakaway win was Voigt in the Giro.

    To cover the break! $110 wagered on!

    $10 E/W Gilbert $31/$9
    $10 E/W Voigt $41/$12.50
    $10 E/W Voeckler $126/$36
    $10 E/W Casar $151/$41

    $10 E/W Seb Chavannel $31/$9
    $5 E/W Syl Chavannel $67/$15
    $5 E/W Domoulin $101/$31

    To cover the sprint finish.

    $100 E/W Cavendish $5/$1.90

    That's what we're talking about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    I don't think tonight's stage is a bunch sprint. The peloton couldn't organise a fight in a fight club. However, I am going to cover all bases here. Time for a fucking win!

    Also, the sprinters have lost an ally in Columbia.

    Now that Kirchen is technically in Yellow and is in Green, Columbia need to protect him and he needs to protect his green jersey so I highly doubt Columbia will be doing pace setting tonight! If I was team director at the tour, I would tell 6 riders to blanket Kirchen and try and set Cavendish and Ciolek in the breakaway. That's how I would do stage 5 if I was in the right position. And that's exactly what Columbia should do!

    It's in Columbia's and Kirchen's best interest to not help the bunch sprint happen tonight. Let the other teams do the work, and there's no many.

    After seeing stage 3 be fucked up and stage 2 nearly being fucked up, I'm on the following today - just for the sake of it! Last time I predicted a breakaway win was Voigt in the Giro.

    To cover the break! $110 wagered on!

    $10 E/W Gilbert $31/$9
    $10 E/W Voigt $41/$12.50
    $10 E/W Voeckler $126/$36
    $10 E/W Casar $151/$41

    $10 E/W Seb Chavannel $31/$9
    $5 E/W Syl Chavannel $67/$15
    $5 E/W Domoulin $101/$31

    To cover the sprint finish.

    $100 E/W Cavendish $5/$1.90

    That's what we're talking about!

     
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    Posted: Jul. 10, 2008 - 2:45 AM ET #24

    Okay stage 6. A few little bets as tonigth's stage is too unpredictable but if it goes the way we want, it can also be very profitable. Very small on the following.

    Millar E/W $51/$13
    Pereiro E/W $51/$13
    Voeckler E/W $51/$13
    Dessel E/W $41/$11
    Piepoli E/W $29/$8
    Moreau E/W $21/$6
    Siutsou E/W $151/$38
    Ricco E/W $7/$2.25

    These are the guys that will most likely be in the break. And if the break gets away then Pereiro, Piepoli, Moreau and Ricco will fight out the stage win and everyone else will drop.

    Anyway onto my large plays!

    Kirchen E/W $6/$2.25
    Valverde E/W $5.50/$2.10

    And some match ups.

    Lovkvist over Krueziger @ $1.87
    Moreau over Chavanel @ $1.87

    Good luck!
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    Okay stage 6. A few little bets as tonigth's stage is too unpredictable but if it goes the way we want, it can also be very profitable. Very small on the following.

    Millar E/W $51/$13
    Pereiro E/W $51/$13
    Voeckler E/W $51/$13
    Dessel E/W $41/$11
    Piepoli E/W $29/$8
    Moreau E/W $21/$6
    Siutsou E/W $151/$38
    Ricco E/W $7/$2.25

    These are the guys that will most likely be in the break. And if the break gets away then Pereiro, Piepoli, Moreau and Ricco will fight out the stage win and everyone else will drop.

    Anyway onto my large plays!

    Kirchen E/W $6/$2.25
    Valverde E/W $5.50/$2.10

    And some match ups.

    Lovkvist over Krueziger @ $1.87
    Moreau over Chavanel @ $1.87

    Good luck!
     
     
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    Posted: Jul. 11, 2008 - 12:02 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Okay stage 6. A few little bets as tonigth's stage is too unpredictable but if it goes the way we want, it can also be very profitable. Very small on the following.

    Millar E/W $51/$13
    Pereiro E/W $51/$13
    Voeckler E/W $51/$13
    Dessel E/W $41/$11
    Piepoli E/W $29/$8
    Moreau E/W $21/$6
    Siutsou E/W $151/$38
    Ricco E/W $7/$2.25

    These are the guys that will most likely be in the break. And if the break gets away then Pereiro, Piepoli, Moreau and Ricco will fight out the stage win and everyone else will drop.

    Anyway onto my large plays!

    Kirchen E/W $6/$2.25
    Valverde E/W $5.50/$2.10

    And some match ups.

    Lovkvist over Krueziger @ $1.87
    Moreau over Chavanel @ $1.87

    Good luck!

    Another winning day. This tour is getting better!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bolar:

    Okay stage 6. A few little bets as tonigth's stage is too unpredictable but if it goes the way we want, it can also be very profitable. Very small on the following.

    Millar E/W $51/$13
    Pereiro E/W $51/$13
    Voeckler E/W $51/$13
    Dessel E/W $41/$11
    Piepoli E/W $29/$8
    Moreau E/W $21/$6
    Siutsou E/W $151/$38
    Ricco E/W $7/$2.25

    These are the guys that will most likely be in the break. And if the break gets away then Pereiro, Piepoli, Moreau and Ricco will fight out the stage win and everyone else will drop.

    Anyway onto my large plays!

    Kirchen E/W $6/$2.25
    Valverde E/W $5.50/$2.10

    And some match ups.

    Lovkvist over Krueziger @ $1.87
    Moreau over Chavanel @ $1.87

    Good luck!

    Another winning day. This tour is getting better!

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