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    1st TEST - AUSTRALIA v NEW ZEALAND

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    TERRI_ZARZZOFF
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 3:12 AM ET #1

    G'day all, 
    After a profitable series against India, I will try to keep it going against NZ.
     
    YTD 9 - 3  + 28.00 units
     
    1st Test selections
     
    R.TAYLOR more runs than A.REDMAN @ $1.75  (5)
    M.CLARKE more runs than A.SYMONDS @ $1.75  (5)
     
    MULTIBET
    AUST. Hi opening Part/ship and AUSTRALIA 13+ (RLWC v NZ) @ $2.25  (5).
     
    Good luck to all
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    G'day all, 
    After a profitable series against India, I will try to keep it going against NZ.
     
    YTD 9 - 3  + 28.00 units
     
    1st Test selections
     
    R.TAYLOR more runs than A.REDMAN @ $1.75  (5)
    M.CLARKE more runs than A.SYMONDS @ $1.75  (5)
     
    MULTIBET
    AUST. Hi opening Part/ship and AUSTRALIA 13+ (RLWC v NZ) @ $2.25  (5).
     
    Good luck to all
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 3:24 AM ET #2

    AUSTRALIA  V  NEW ZEALAND in 2 sports on 1 weekend.
    Life is great.
     
    Wallabies v England should have been this weekend too.
     
    IT SURE IS GREAT TO BE AN AUSTRALIAN. 
     
     
     
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    AUSTRALIA  V  NEW ZEALAND in 2 sports on 1 weekend.
    Life is great.
     
    Wallabies v England should have been this weekend too.
     
    IT SURE IS GREAT TO BE AN AUSTRALIAN. 
     
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 3:57 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by TERRI_ZARZZOFF:

     
    M.CLARKE more runs than A.SYMONDS @ $1.75  (5)
     
     

    You shouldn't even have this bet option because A.Symonds SHOULD NOT have been picked in this test.

    I really do have concerns over the impact his selection might have on the rest of the team. 

    This group has just returned from the toughest away tour in world cricket and suddenly in walks Symonds on the basis of nothing more than a tick of approval from some psychologist and an assurance from "Roy" that he "feels good again"  

    Don't get me wrong, I want Symonds in the Aussie team, and I think the team needs a firing Andrew Symonds, but he needs to do a lot more pennance before he earns the right to return imo.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by TERRI_ZARZZOFF:

     
    M.CLARKE more runs than A.SYMONDS @ $1.75  (5)
     
     

    You shouldn't even have this bet option because A.Symonds SHOULD NOT have been picked in this test.

    I really do have concerns over the impact his selection might have on the rest of the team. 

    This group has just returned from the toughest away tour in world cricket and suddenly in walks Symonds on the basis of nothing more than a tick of approval from some psychologist and an assurance from "Roy" that he "feels good again"  

    Don't get me wrong, I want Symonds in the Aussie team, and I think the team needs a firing Andrew Symonds, but he needs to do a lot more pennance before he earns the right to return imo.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 4:22 AM ET #4

    Good luck tezza
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    Good luck tezza
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 4:36 AM ET #5

    I am glad.  I think this is easiest bet on the card.
    He was only suspended for behaviour. But form is shocking. Might be a rush job after the Indian series. Get Symonds back in there.
    How does Watson feel on the inside. I don't like him at all but gets himself healthy, played well in INDIA, now battling for his spot. Bit unfair IMO.
     
    This is from an article on foxsports website
     
    " Watson is a man the selectors had earmarked to be their genuine Test all-rounder, their Andrew Flintoff after the 2005 Ashes disaster.

    After finally putting his injury-jinxed ways behind him, Watson stood up with the ball and bat in four back-to-back Tests in the toughest of environments.

    Now his reward is a likely drinks-carrying role watching his Queensland teammate getting the chance to feast on the seriously outclassed Black Caps.

    Watson may still be included for the first Test if the Brisbane rain returns early Thursday.

    But one thinks the chance of Watson upstaging Roy, the headline-star, and demanding his retention for the second Test in Adelaide might ensure spinner Jason Krejza is retained. "
     Yep, sounds right to me.
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    I am glad.  I think this is easiest bet on the card.
    He was only suspended for behaviour. But form is shocking. Might be a rush job after the Indian series. Get Symonds back in there.
    How does Watson feel on the inside. I don't like him at all but gets himself healthy, played well in INDIA, now battling for his spot. Bit unfair IMO.
     
    This is from an article on foxsports website
     
    " Watson is a man the selectors had earmarked to be their genuine Test all-rounder, their Andrew Flintoff after the 2005 Ashes disaster.

    After finally putting his injury-jinxed ways behind him, Watson stood up with the ball and bat in four back-to-back Tests in the toughest of environments.

    Now his reward is a likely drinks-carrying role watching his Queensland teammate getting the chance to feast on the seriously outclassed Black Caps.

    Watson may still be included for the first Test if the Brisbane rain returns early Thursday.

    But one thinks the chance of Watson upstaging Roy, the headline-star, and demanding his retention for the second Test in Adelaide might ensure spinner Jason Krejza is retained. "
     Yep, sounds right to me.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 4:40 AM ET #6

    Thanks Rod.
     
    It has been raining almost all day here. Most of the week consistant rain.
     Storm passing over Ipswich ( about 40 klms west of brisbane.) now.
    Heading straight for the Gabba.
    Supposed to rain Thursday and fine for Friday.
     
     
    BOL
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    Thanks Rod.
     
    It has been raining almost all day here. Most of the week consistant rain.
     Storm passing over Ipswich ( about 40 klms west of brisbane.) now.
    Heading straight for the Gabba.
    Supposed to rain Thursday and fine for Friday.
     
     
    BOL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 4:44 AM ET #7

    I reckon Watson is potentially a very good test allrounder.
     
    Batting wise he has a great technique and he started to show in India that he can really do a job with the ball, especially when he started to get the old ball to tail in reverse.
     
    Injury and temperament have been his biggest hurdles to date  
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    I reckon Watson is potentially a very good test allrounder.
     
    Batting wise he has a great technique and he started to show in India that he can really do a job with the ball, especially when he started to get the old ball to tail in reverse.
     
    Injury and temperament have been his biggest hurdles to date  
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 4:49 AM ET #8

    I feel sorry for Vettori the guy is the only world class player in the Kiwi team and he is expected to be their main wicket taker yet keep it tight, continually bail the top order with the bat and captain all at the same time
     
    I love watching him bowl one of the few spinners left in the world who use flight and guile to get batsmen out instead of relying on spin off the wicket
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    I feel sorry for Vettori the guy is the only world class player in the Kiwi team and he is expected to be their main wicket taker yet keep it tight, continually bail the top order with the bat and captain all at the same time
     
    I love watching him bowl one of the few spinners left in the world who use flight and guile to get batsmen out instead of relying on spin off the wicket
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 5:06 AM ET #9

    Jive,
    Watson's temperment just riles me  I could reach thru the TV and flog him sometimes. Just like watching footy. I keep a basket of rolled socks beside me to throw at the telly.  Surprisingly it is a good stress reliever. And don't hurt the telly either.
     
    Rod,
    Vettori's great to watch bat or bowl. I wonder if he is bald yet with all that pressure.
    Guess bookies know Watson not playing????
    Vettori V Krejza most wickets was an option. Vettori will more than likely only bowl to Australia one innings and Krejza gets 2 innings. If he plays.  Couldn't split them really. Vettori 3 wickets and Krejza unknown. Thinking pacemen get the jobdone.
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    Jive,
    Watson's temperment just riles me  I could reach thru the TV and flog him sometimes. Just like watching footy. I keep a basket of rolled socks beside me to throw at the telly.  Surprisingly it is a good stress reliever. And don't hurt the telly either.
     
    Rod,
    Vettori's great to watch bat or bowl. I wonder if he is bald yet with all that pressure.
    Guess bookies know Watson not playing????
    Vettori V Krejza most wickets was an option. Vettori will more than likely only bowl to Australia one innings and Krejza gets 2 innings. If he plays.  Couldn't split them really. Vettori 3 wickets and Krejza unknown. Thinking pacemen get the jobdone.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 6:25 AM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    You shouldn't even have this bet option because A.Symonds SHOULD NOT have been picked in this test.

    I really do have concerns over the impact his selection might have on the rest of the team. 

    This group has just returned from the toughest away tour in world cricket and suddenly in walks Symonds on the basis of nothing more than a tick of approval from some psychologist and an assurance from "Roy" that he "feels good again"  

    Don't get me wrong, I want Symonds in the Aussie team, and I think the team needs a firing Andrew Symonds, but he needs to do a lot more pennance before he earns the right to return imo.

     

    Cronies

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jive_Turkey:

    You shouldn't even have this bet option because A.Symonds SHOULD NOT have been picked in this test.

    I really do have concerns over the impact his selection might have on the rest of the team. 

    This group has just returned from the toughest away tour in world cricket and suddenly in walks Symonds on the basis of nothing more than a tick of approval from some psychologist and an assurance from "Roy" that he "feels good again"  

    Don't get me wrong, I want Symonds in the Aussie team, and I think the team needs a firing Andrew Symonds, but he needs to do a lot more pennance before he earns the right to return imo.

     

    Cronies

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 6:30 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by TERRI_ZARZZOFF:

     
    This is from an article on foxsports website
     
    " Watson is a man the selectors had earmarked to be their genuine Test all-rounder, their Andrew Flintoff after the 2005 Ashes disaster.

    After finally putting his injury-jinxed ways behind him, Watson stood up with the ball and bat in four back-to-back Tests in the toughest of environments.


    But one thinks the chance of Watson upstaging Roy, the headline-star, and demanding his retention for the second Test in Adelaide might ensure spinner Jason Krejza is retained. "
     Yep, sounds right to me.

    That right there is the problem. The Australian selectors obsession with an all rounder. Never got it, still don't. Fuck Andrew Flintoff. The drunk got Gilly a few times with his reverse to a LEFT HANDED batsmen. Gilly could never handle the ball coming back into him.

     

    Australia didn't lose that series because we didn't have a 'genuine all-rounder'. Rubbish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TERRI_ZARZZOFF:

     
    This is from an article on foxsports website
     
    " Watson is a man the selectors had earmarked to be their genuine Test all-rounder, their Andrew Flintoff after the 2005 Ashes disaster.

    After finally putting his injury-jinxed ways behind him, Watson stood up with the ball and bat in four back-to-back Tests in the toughest of environments.


    But one thinks the chance of Watson upstaging Roy, the headline-star, and demanding his retention for the second Test in Adelaide might ensure spinner Jason Krejza is retained. "
     Yep, sounds right to me.

    That right there is the problem. The Australian selectors obsession with an all rounder. Never got it, still don't. Fuck Andrew Flintoff. The drunk got Gilly a few times with his reverse to a LEFT HANDED batsmen. Gilly could never handle the ball coming back into him.

     

    Australia didn't lose that series because we didn't have a 'genuine all-rounder'. Rubbish.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 6:35 AM ET #12

    Oh, and I actually feel for Watson. Inflated by the selectors to be what they wanted and not what he was, in and out of the side. Injured, dropped, whatever. Never been a major fan of his, but he has been bent over royally by Border et al.
     
    They're the one's the questions should be asked of.
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    Oh, and I actually feel for Watson. Inflated by the selectors to be what they wanted and not what he was, in and out of the side. Injured, dropped, whatever. Never been a major fan of his, but he has been bent over royally by Border et al.
     
    They're the one's the questions should be asked of.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 6:51 AM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    That right there is the problem. The Australian selectors obsession with an all rounder. Never got it, still don't. Fuck Andrew Flintoff. The drunk got Gilly a few times with his reverse to a LEFT HANDED batsmen. Gilly could never handle the ball coming back into him.

     

    Australia didn't lose that series because we didn't have a 'genuine all-rounder'. Rubbish.

    ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY ! Australia dominated for a decade with six specialist batsmen and four specialist bowlers and suddenly they're panicked into "finding a Flintoff" after one losing series.

    Allrounders are the biggest gamble in cricket because MOST of the time, MOST of them don't contribute significantly with bat or ball.

    And in India Australia became a testing ground for "dibbly-dobblers" ala those disasterous England sides of yesterfar, with players who aren't up to scratch in either department. Cameron White .

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie Battler:

    That right there is the problem. The Australian selectors obsession with an all rounder. Never got it, still don't. Fuck Andrew Flintoff. The drunk got Gilly a few times with his reverse to a LEFT HANDED batsmen. Gilly could never handle the ball coming back into him.

     

    Australia didn't lose that series because we didn't have a 'genuine all-rounder'. Rubbish.

    ABSO-FREAKIN-LUTELY ! Australia dominated for a decade with six specialist batsmen and four specialist bowlers and suddenly they're panicked into "finding a Flintoff" after one losing series.

    Allrounders are the biggest gamble in cricket because MOST of the time, MOST of them don't contribute significantly with bat or ball.

    And in India Australia became a testing ground for "dibbly-dobblers" ala those disasterous England sides of yesterfar, with players who aren't up to scratch in either department. Cameron White .

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 7:28 AM ET #14

    Keith Miller was Keith Miller. Full stop. Move on.
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    Keith Miller was Keith Miller. Full stop. Move on.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 10:25 PM ET #15

    Battler   I am with you. Never been able to understand a need for an allrounder in Australian teams. Haven't needed one. It's the Aussie way lately.Someone else has something that works once, so we have to get one.
     
    I hope Lee, Clark and Johnson get an opener quickly (before13). My thinking was Aust. bowlers bit to good for the openers on lively pitch. Maybe NZ around 30 - 40 runs. Aust get a bit over 50 runs against Mills and Co. Mills not playing and new boy going well (seems to bowl high bounce, NO straight hits ).  Didn't back Hayden thought he would try to hard at home. BUT 13 opening partnership isn't quite what I hoped for.
     
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    Battler   I am with you. Never been able to understand a need for an allrounder in Australian teams. Haven't needed one. It's the Aussie way lately.Someone else has something that works once, so we have to get one.
     
    I hope Lee, Clark and Johnson get an opener quickly (before13). My thinking was Aust. bowlers bit to good for the openers on lively pitch. Maybe NZ around 30 - 40 runs. Aust get a bit over 50 runs against Mills and Co. Mills not playing and new boy going well (seems to bowl high bounce, NO straight hits ).  Didn't back Hayden thought he would try to hard at home. BUT 13 opening partnership isn't quite what I hoped for.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 10:33 PM ET #16

    One of the kiwi's will get a full ball that swings late and hits the pad on middle and leg. 1st couple of overs. I can feel it Tezza
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    One of the kiwi's will get a full ball that swings late and hits the pad on middle and leg. 1st couple of overs. I can feel it Tezza
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 10:40 PM ET #17

    I feel it too. NO, I was sitting on my hand.
     
    That's the way I was working it out. Sill confident though.
    LEE is my man.
     
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    I feel it too. NO, I was sitting on my hand.
     
    That's the way I was working it out. Sill confident though.
    LEE is my man.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 10:41 PM ET #18

    3 / 95 after lunch
     
    Hussey 37no
    M.CLARKE 35 no
    Don't think Symonds will ge that many.
     
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    3 / 95 after lunch
     
    Hussey 37no
    M.CLARKE 35 no
    Don't think Symonds will ge that many.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 10:43 PM ET #19

    Sorry guys
     
    3 /96
     
    Hussey 35no
     
    M.CLARKE 38 no
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    Sorry guys
     
    3 /96
     
    Hussey 35no
     
    M.CLARKE 38 no
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 10:48 PM ET #20

    Hussey gone for 35

    A.Symonds in to bat @ 4 /96.

    M.Clarke 38 run head start.

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    Hussey gone for 35

    A.Symonds in to bat @ 4 /96.

    M.Clarke 38 run head start.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 10:59 PM ET #21

    4 / 98
     
    M.Clarke  40 no
    A.Symonds  0 no
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    4 / 98
     
    M.Clarke  40 no
    A.Symonds  0 no
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 11:17 PM ET #22

    going out to mow he lawn. Getting nervous.
     
    C'Mon Clarkie.
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    going out to mow he lawn. Getting nervous.
     
    C'Mon Clarkie.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 11:25 PM ET #23

    Symonds doing his best to bridge the gap mate. Three consecutive 4's
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    Symonds doing his best to bridge the gap mate. Three consecutive 4's
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2008 - 12:55 AM ET #24

    AB, Wash your mouth out with soap.

    M.CLARKE more runs than A.SYMONDS @ $1.75  (5)
     
    Glad I went an mowed. Aussies looking bit shaky.
    I hope the NZ'ers openers bat tonight. Could be very hard for them.
     
    YTD   10 - 3    + 31.75
     
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    AB, Wash your mouth out with soap.

    M.CLARKE more runs than A.SYMONDS @ $1.75  (5)
     
    Glad I went an mowed. Aussies looking bit shaky.
    I hope the NZ'ers openers bat tonight. Could be very hard for them.
     
    YTD   10 - 3    + 31.75
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 20, 2008 - 2:08 AM ET #25

    Australia all out 214
     
     
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    Australia all out 214
     
     
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