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    Vegas Golden Knights the greatest story in the history of sports

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    AhiTov1960
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    Posted: May. 19, 2018 - 5:58 PM ET #26

    IMO it is a fair deal between Vegas and the NHL. While Supreme Court takes the exclusivity from Vegas to be the sole legal place to place a bet - Vegas gets a team to make house some money. Or, in other words - quoting someone who is long banned: when the slavery was seemingly eradicated in the US, they actually enslaved all of us.

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    IMO it is a fair deal between Vegas and the NHL. While Supreme Court takes the exclusivity from Vegas to be the sole legal place to place a bet - Vegas gets a team to make house some money. Or, in other words - quoting someone who is long banned: when the slavery was seemingly eradicated in the US, they actually enslaved all of us.

     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2018 - 8:54 PM ET #27

    Waa, Waa, Waa. "the entry draft was FIXED for the VGK" WHAT a CROCK of CRAP!!! the ONLY three "Stars" from other team they got in the draft were obviously Marc Andre Fleury who ASKED to NOT be protected by the Penguins because he did NOT want to be a backup to Murray, James Neal who the Predators could NOT afford to keep with their salary cap and David Perron from the Blues same thing as Neal

    of the guys that have become STARS for the VGK, WHAT did William Karlsson ever do in Columbus ??? he was a "fringe player" back and forth between their AHL team. Jonathan Marchessault and Reilly Smith ??? they were third liners at best with the Panthers. those three NOW make up maybe THE most "balanced scoring" line in the NHL.

    Nate Schmidt ??? another "fringe player" with the Capitals. same with his defense partner Shea Theodore up and down AHL with the Ducks. Ryan Carpenter ??? picked up on waivers from the Sharks.

    Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ??? low scoring "grinder' with the Flyers, Ryan Reaves ??? waiver pickup from Penguins. Tomas Nosek ??? AHL player in the Detroit system. right now those three may be THE best "shut down" fourth line in the NHL

    Erik Haula and Alex Tuch from the Wild ??? Haula a 3rd liner and Tuch mostly in the AHL. Cody Eakin ??? a fringe player in Dallas that was a "throw in" on a trade

    we have a saying in Las Vegas

    DON'T you WISH you had our GOALIES?
    DON'T you WISH you had our D?
    DON'T you WISH you had our FORWARDS?
    DON'T you WISH you had our COACH?
    DON'T you WISH you had our OWNER?

    DON'T YOU WISH YOU HAD OUR TEAM ???

    the REST of the NHL can just SUCK ON IT!!! 
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    Waa, Waa, Waa. "the entry draft was FIXED for the VGK" WHAT a CROCK of CRAP!!! the ONLY three "Stars" from other team they got in the draft were obviously Marc Andre Fleury who ASKED to NOT be protected by the Penguins because he did NOT want to be a backup to Murray, James Neal who the Predators could NOT afford to keep with their salary cap and David Perron from the Blues same thing as Neal

    of the guys that have become STARS for the VGK, WHAT did William Karlsson ever do in Columbus ??? he was a "fringe player" back and forth between their AHL team. Jonathan Marchessault and Reilly Smith ??? they were third liners at best with the Panthers. those three NOW make up maybe THE most "balanced scoring" line in the NHL.

    Nate Schmidt ??? another "fringe player" with the Capitals. same with his defense partner Shea Theodore up and down AHL with the Ducks. Ryan Carpenter ??? picked up on waivers from the Sharks.

    Pierre-Edouard Bellemare ??? low scoring "grinder' with the Flyers, Ryan Reaves ??? waiver pickup from Penguins. Tomas Nosek ??? AHL player in the Detroit system. right now those three may be THE best "shut down" fourth line in the NHL

    Erik Haula and Alex Tuch from the Wild ??? Haula a 3rd liner and Tuch mostly in the AHL. Cody Eakin ??? a fringe player in Dallas that was a "throw in" on a trade

    we have a saying in Las Vegas

    DON'T you WISH you had our GOALIES?
    DON'T you WISH you had our D?
    DON'T you WISH you had our FORWARDS?
    DON'T you WISH you had our COACH?
    DON'T you WISH you had our OWNER?

    DON'T YOU WISH YOU HAD OUR TEAM ???

    the REST of the NHL can just SUCK ON IT!!! 
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2018 - 9:05 PM ET #28

    I have yet to hear one person say, yes the expansion rules were set up for them to win now, so I jumped on them to win the Cup at 500-1. The West at 250-1, and the Pacific division at 100-1. Not one single person ever said they would be any good. No one predicted the playoffs. But everyone said after the fact, that it was made easier for them. I don't get it.
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    I have yet to hear one person say, yes the expansion rules were set up for them to win now, so I jumped on them to win the Cup at 500-1. The West at 250-1, and the Pacific division at 100-1. Not one single person ever said they would be any good. No one predicted the playoffs. But everyone said after the fact, that it was made easier for them. I don't get it.
     
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    Posted: May. 19, 2018 - 9:24 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by t6rider:

    I have yet to hear one person say, yes the expansion rules were set up for them to win now, so I jumped on them to win the Cup at 500-1. The West at 250-1, and the Pacific division at 100-1. Not one single person ever said they would be any good. No one predicted the playoffs. But everyone said after the fact, that it was made easier for them. I don't get it.

    GOOD ON YA!!! I was one of those people that thought yet ANOTHER "hockey in the desert" team like "Wile E Coyote" was gonna SUCK and owner Bill Foley was gonna LOSE his AZZ BUT after the 1st month it became apparent they might actually be GOOD and I chanced their "to win the Pacific Division" @ 60-1. crazy thing IS Fleury got concussed the 4th game of the season vs Detroit BUT the VGK continued to WIN 1st with Malcolm Subban in goal and then with Oscar Dansk. THAT is WHEN a LOT of Las Vegas people took notice
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    Quote Originally Posted by t6rider:

    I have yet to hear one person say, yes the expansion rules were set up for them to win now, so I jumped on them to win the Cup at 500-1. The West at 250-1, and the Pacific division at 100-1. Not one single person ever said they would be any good. No one predicted the playoffs. But everyone said after the fact, that it was made easier for them. I don't get it.

    GOOD ON YA!!! I was one of those people that thought yet ANOTHER "hockey in the desert" team like "Wile E Coyote" was gonna SUCK and owner Bill Foley was gonna LOSE his AZZ BUT after the 1st month it became apparent they might actually be GOOD and I chanced their "to win the Pacific Division" @ 60-1. crazy thing IS Fleury got concussed the 4th game of the season vs Detroit BUT the VGK continued to WIN 1st with Malcolm Subban in goal and then with Oscar Dansk. THAT is WHEN a LOT of Las Vegas people took notice
     
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    Posted: May. 28, 2018 - 7:57 PM ET #30

    VGK in 5 + 500 and VGK in 6 + 450 
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    VGK in 5 + 500 and VGK in 6 + 450 
     
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    Posted: May. 29, 2018 - 12:49 AM ET #31

    #VegasBorn!!
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    Posted: May. 30, 2018 - 1:30 AM ET #32

    peace

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    peace

     
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    Posted: May. 30, 2018 - 8:00 PM ET #33

    Seems like a tough spot for VGK tonight as the Caps will be giving every thing they got to avoid 0-2 but i think VGK finds a way to win it anyways so i would recommend laying the - 150 .. hopefully VGK wins it tonight to set up a great spot in game 3
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    Seems like a tough spot for VGK tonight as the Caps will be giving every thing they got to avoid 0-2 but i think VGK finds a way to win it anyways so i would recommend laying the - 150 .. hopefully VGK wins it tonight to set up a great spot in game 3
     
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    Posted: Jun. 2, 2018 - 7:15 PM ET #34

    was hoping VGK could of pulled out a win in game 2 so i can unload on the caps in game it would of been a fantastic spot for Washington in game 3 looking for their first ever Stanley Cup win .. still like this spot for Washington playing their first Stanley Cup home game in many many years and looking to win a stanley cup game at home for the first time ever and with the price drop i still have to play it .. Capitals - 110 .. BOL
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    was hoping VGK could of pulled out a win in game 2 so i can unload on the caps in game it would of been a fantastic spot for Washington in game 3 looking for their first ever Stanley Cup win .. still like this spot for Washington playing their first Stanley Cup home game in many many years and looking to win a stanley cup game at home for the first time ever and with the price drop i still have to play it .. Capitals - 110 .. BOL
     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2018 - 8:36 AM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    Leicster City is as big of a story (When they one the Premier League)   The two clowns in this thread insinuating  it is "scripted" please put your tin foils hats on now

     

    So tim donaghy never happened ???

     

    Have you watched a close Patriots game in the las 14 years ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by the1toturn2:

    Leicster City is as big of a story (When they one the Premier League)   The two clowns in this thread insinuating  it is "scripted" please put your tin foils hats on now

     

    So tim donaghy never happened ???

     

    Have you watched a close Patriots game in the las 14 years ???

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2018 - 8:40 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Irish7878:

    So Brady threw for a zillion yards....yet the fix was in for Philly?  Hilarious again.

     

     

    If you have all 22 , you can see a brutal pick play on the Eagles game winning drive 

     

     

    I loves it 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish7878:

    So Brady threw for a zillion yards....yet the fix was in for Philly?  Hilarious again.

     

     

    If you have all 22 , you can see a brutal pick play on the Eagles game winning drive 

     

     

    I loves it 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2018 - 2:24 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by bmiller1632:

    currently + 110 to win the Cup .. are you kidding me an expansion team to win the Stanley Cup? this is equivalent to an expansion team winning the Super Bowl, it seems impossible but VGK will win the cup imo .. I live in Vegas and ever since opening night when VGK honored the victims of the las vegas shootings  it has been an amazing story .. the city and team have rallied around each other to put together this incredible season i have never seen anything like this .. the other day i went to the wells fargo bank for a few minutes afterwards i went to Smiths grocery store for about 30 minutes and no exaggeration i probably seen over 100 people wearing Golden Knights shirts .. this city has rallied around this team like you can not believe it is insane VGK and Vegas Strong signs. and stickers every where you look .. Vegas Golden Knights will win the Stanley Cup for the city of Las Vegas and to honor the victims of the shooting i have no doubt about this .. VGK to win it all load up on that baby because its money in the bank

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by bmiller1632:

    currently + 110 to win the Cup .. are you kidding me an expansion team to win the Stanley Cup? this is equivalent to an expansion team winning the Super Bowl, it seems impossible but VGK will win the cup imo .. I live in Vegas and ever since opening night when VGK honored the victims of the las vegas shootings  it has been an amazing story .. the city and team have rallied around each other to put together this incredible season i have never seen anything like this .. the other day i went to the wells fargo bank for a few minutes afterwards i went to Smiths grocery store for about 30 minutes and no exaggeration i probably seen over 100 people wearing Golden Knights shirts .. this city has rallied around this team like you can not believe it is insane VGK and Vegas Strong signs. and stickers every where you look .. Vegas Golden Knights will win the Stanley Cup for the city of Las Vegas and to honor the victims of the shooting i have no doubt about this .. VGK to win it all load up on that baby because its money in the bank

     

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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2018 - 11:52 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    leicester city way bigger 5000-1team usa olympics 1980 1000-1st louis cardinals 2011 world series win 999-1 odds with 15 games left in seasonGreece euro cup 2004 200-1 oddsRams to win super bowl beginning of  season with unknown arena qb kurt warner when they beat titans  300-1 odds2013 auburn to win bcs title  1000-1 odds minnesota twins world series 1987   500-1 odds

    Red Sox odds to win the World Series when down 0-3 to the Yankees in the playoffs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polar_Bear:

    leicester city way bigger 5000-1team usa olympics 1980 1000-1st louis cardinals 2011 world series win 999-1 odds with 15 games left in seasonGreece euro cup 2004 200-1 oddsRams to win super bowl beginning of  season with unknown arena qb kurt warner when they beat titans  300-1 odds2013 auburn to win bcs title  1000-1 odds minnesota twins world series 1987   500-1 odds

    Red Sox odds to win the World Series when down 0-3 to the Yankees in the playoffs?

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2018 - 2:56 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by blazing7s:

    If Vegas fails to top this run with a Cup victory, then they might as well not have even made the postseason.  Whether you lose 2-1 or 10-1, a loss is a loss. Without a Cup win, the Knights season run will be forgotten in short time. Furthermore they'll be remembered as the expansion team that enjoyed the benefit of favorable changes in the expansion draft rules for their entry.

     

    Wow, you are amazingly prescient!  I live in Vegas and you are so right!  If VGK doesn't win the Stanley Cup, we will only remember them as the team that had all the benefits of the expansion draft rules yet FAILED so miserably because they did not win that ugly trophy.  What a bunch of failures!  The pressure on them is unreal because they (The Golden Knights) KNOW that we EXPECTED a Cup win. 

    I mean Jeezus, when they were 500-1 to win the Cup, we decided to buy season tickets - over 15,000 in an 18,000 seat arena - within a day of them being offered.  Talk about PRESSURE!!!  And then do you know what we did?  We put MORE pressure on them with the 2nd highest home attendance in the league and the highest merchandise sales.  So let me tell you - if those players are SO DAMN UNGRATEFUL as to NOT win that ugly trophy, well then we are ALL going to jump ship, move to Winnipeg, and cheer for that Big Be-Fugly Guy and his goaltender that is better than Fleury. 

    Thank God the Pool Party season is here - yes, Ovi is a big fan! - and we can focus on what is REALLY important in life.  THANK YOU for helping us see right through this fraud.  Man, you sure are SMART!!!  

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    If Vegas fails to top this run with a Cup victory, then they might as well not have even made the postseason.  Whether you lose 2-1 or 10-1, a loss is a loss. Without a Cup win, the Knights season run will be forgotten in short time. Furthermore they'll be remembered as the expansion team that enjoyed the benefit of favorable changes in the expansion draft rules for their entry.

     

    Wow, you are amazingly prescient!  I live in Vegas and you are so right!  If VGK doesn't win the Stanley Cup, we will only remember them as the team that had all the benefits of the expansion draft rules yet FAILED so miserably because they did not win that ugly trophy.  What a bunch of failures!  The pressure on them is unreal because they (The Golden Knights) KNOW that we EXPECTED a Cup win. 

    I mean Jeezus, when they were 500-1 to win the Cup, we decided to buy season tickets - over 15,000 in an 18,000 seat arena - within a day of them being offered.  Talk about PRESSURE!!!  And then do you know what we did?  We put MORE pressure on them with the 2nd highest home attendance in the league and the highest merchandise sales.  So let me tell you - if those players are SO DAMN UNGRATEFUL as to NOT win that ugly trophy, well then we are ALL going to jump ship, move to Winnipeg, and cheer for that Big Be-Fugly Guy and his goaltender that is better than Fleury. 

    Thank God the Pool Party season is here - yes, Ovi is a big fan! - and we can focus on what is REALLY important in life.  THANK YOU for helping us see right through this fraud.  Man, you sure are SMART!!!  

     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2018 - 3:50 PM ET #40

    I get the thread but unless they give out runner up trophies, the knights have to win it all for this thread title to be taken seriously. We’ll see if that happens......
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    I get the thread but unless they give out runner up trophies, the knights have to win it all for this thread title to be taken seriously. We’ll see if that happens......
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2018 - 6:22 PM ET #41

    If you still have some faith in VGK coming back and winning the series well than tonight is one of those times you look forward to betting wise .. VGK off consecutive losses and in a must win game, great spot for Vegas .. VGK + 115 is the play
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    If you still have some faith in VGK coming back and winning the series well than tonight is one of those times you look forward to betting wise .. VGK off consecutive losses and in a must win game, great spot for Vegas .. VGK + 115 is the play
     
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    Posted: Jun. 4, 2018 - 6:35 PM ET #42

    Ya know....I wonder.....with Vegas being down in the series, do the books hand out more FREE MONEY for knights backers or do they know that Knights backers will continue to line up with desperation thinking they can somehow still pull this magic show off? It’s a great question. It’s absolutejy hilarious to me to hear people say, “I just can’t see this team losing three in a row”! Why is that? Because they have a track record and because they’ve been there before? I’m not saying the knights win or lose tonite but to think that THIS TEAM, the Cirque De Solei of hockey teams has gained this reputation to succeed no matter what WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED, it’s beyond me. Listen, if the knights lose this series which I called they would if they played Ovie and the Capitals here is the tone you will hear. “It’s been a great, nobody expected us to go tho far, the fans and the league are proud, we should understand just how outstanding this run has been”. That’s gonna he the tone and as happy and beautiful as that is, show me the place on the cup where the games of the second place team are etched in history. You win or you lose folks so this second place crap and “the story” carries no weight especially in the game of hockey where the fakes get rolled out clearer than in any other sport out there. 
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    Ya know....I wonder.....with Vegas being down in the series, do the books hand out more FREE MONEY for knights backers or do they know that Knights backers will continue to line up with desperation thinking they can somehow still pull this magic show off? It’s a great question. It’s absolutejy hilarious to me to hear people say, “I just can’t see this team losing three in a row”! Why is that? Because they have a track record and because they’ve been there before? I’m not saying the knights win or lose tonite but to think that THIS TEAM, the Cirque De Solei of hockey teams has gained this reputation to succeed no matter what WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED, it’s beyond me. Listen, if the knights lose this series which I called they would if they played Ovie and the Capitals here is the tone you will hear. “It’s been a great, nobody expected us to go tho far, the fans and the league are proud, we should understand just how outstanding this run has been”. That’s gonna he the tone and as happy and beautiful as that is, show me the place on the cup where the games of the second place team are etched in history. You win or you lose folks so this second place crap and “the story” carries no weight especially in the game of hockey where the fakes get rolled out clearer than in any other sport out there. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2018 - 3:10 PM ET #43

    I hate this .. my apologies to anyone who tailed this play .. I looked at game 4 as a must win for VGK, the series is not over but history has shown a 3-1 deficit in the finals is devastating .. will see what happens but after watching game 4 the Caps just looked like the better all around team
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    I hate this .. my apologies to anyone who tailed this play .. I looked at game 4 as a must win for VGK, the series is not over but history has shown a 3-1 deficit in the finals is devastating .. will see what happens but after watching game 4 the Caps just looked like the better all around team
     
     
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    I honestly didn't know what the Expansion Rule Changes were since 2000 when the Wild and Blue Jackets entered the league so I looked it up....

    While the Wild and Blue Jackets put together their initial rosters from the leftovers after teams protected up to 15 players (nine forwards, five defensemen, one goalie), teams were only eligible to protect up to 11 players from Vegas (seven forwards, three defensemen, one goalie).

    After entering the NHL together in 2000, the Wild and Blue Jackets have a combined for one division title (the Wild in 2008) and one conference championship appearance (the Wild in 2003). The two franchises combined for two playoff series wins in their first 13 years.

    Unlike Vegas – which had months to negotiate with teams and prepare – the Wild conducted their expansion draft simultaneously with the Blue Jackets, each team allowed all of five minutes to make a selection. The extra predraft time allowed Vegas to make trades with teams with the promose not to draft their best exposed player. For the Wild, that meant Vegas wouldn’t take defenseman Jonas Brodin, instead trading for former first-round pick Alex Tuch and drafting Erik Haula. 

    No question Vegas has had more advantages than previous expansion teams but even with those advantages it is amazing what they accomplished this year.  Just my opinion.
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    I honestly didn't know what the Expansion Rule Changes were since 2000 when the Wild and Blue Jackets entered the league so I looked it up....

    While the Wild and Blue Jackets put together their initial rosters from the leftovers after teams protected up to 15 players (nine forwards, five defensemen, one goalie), teams were only eligible to protect up to 11 players from Vegas (seven forwards, three defensemen, one goalie).

    After entering the NHL together in 2000, the Wild and Blue Jackets have a combined for one division title (the Wild in 2008) and one conference championship appearance (the Wild in 2003). The two franchises combined for two playoff series wins in their first 13 years.

    Unlike Vegas – which had months to negotiate with teams and prepare – the Wild conducted their expansion draft simultaneously with the Blue Jackets, each team allowed all of five minutes to make a selection. The extra predraft time allowed Vegas to make trades with teams with the promose not to draft their best exposed player. For the Wild, that meant Vegas wouldn’t take defenseman Jonas Brodin, instead trading for former first-round pick Alex Tuch and drafting Erik Haula. 

    No question Vegas has had more advantages than previous expansion teams but even with those advantages it is amazing what they accomplished this year.  Just my opinion.
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