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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 5:26 PM ET #26

    @vanzack

     Alot of interest it seems in the Philadelphia game. I do not know if A.J. is playing yet. The almost entire regression in Philadelphia mirrors the entire regression in Browns numbers. Why would any Quarterback not take advantage and throw to one of the best 3 receivers in the game? 

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     Alot of interest it seems in the Philadelphia game. I do not know if A.J. is playing yet. The almost entire regression in Philadelphia mirrors the entire regression in Browns numbers. Why would any Quarterback not take advantage and throw to one of the best 3 receivers in the game? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 5:26 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    @jefff  I heard via a little birdie that Patrick Maholmes under 45 degree temperature is 10-1 Su and 9-2 ATS or someone like that..U can ask Kcblitzkrieg.....He knows Maholmes middle name as well..So I heard...Interesting..

    But the race does not always go to the Swift......

    People rarely do that which is not expected of them.
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    @jefff  I heard via a little birdie that Patrick Maholmes under 45 degree temperature is 10-1 Su and 9-2 ATS or someone like that..U can ask Kcblitzkrieg.....He knows Maholmes middle name as well..So I heard...Interesting..

    But the race does not always go to the Swift......

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 5:26 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    As promised, I am trying to get these up early.  I will update Friday evening with final spreads and units, including weather and injuries - but it will be very close to this. Included a column for line moves, and units accordingly. Final NFL Regular Season Record +64.25 units * Bucs         +3     (4 units)           3.5 (4.5), 2.5 (3)* Texans     +2.75  (3.5 units)       3 (4), 2.5 (3), 2 (2.5)* Steelers    +9.75 (2.5 units)       10.5 (3), 8 (2)* Cowboys    -7.5   (2 units)          -8 (1.5), -7 (2.5)* Dolphins    +4.5   (2 units)          5 (2.5), 3.5 (1.5)* Rams         +3.25 (1 unit)          3.5 (1.5), 2.5 (no bet) I will be around to write-up / discuss all.  Just wanted to get them up early.

     

    I am glad you finally agreed Bucs are going to the superbowl

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    As promised, I am trying to get these up early.  I will update Friday evening with final spreads and units, including weather and injuries - but it will be very close to this. Included a column for line moves, and units accordingly. Final NFL Regular Season Record +64.25 units * Bucs         +3     (4 units)           3.5 (4.5), 2.5 (3)* Texans     +2.75  (3.5 units)       3 (4), 2.5 (3), 2 (2.5)* Steelers    +9.75 (2.5 units)       10.5 (3), 8 (2)* Cowboys    -7.5   (2 units)          -8 (1.5), -7 (2.5)* Dolphins    +4.5   (2 units)          5 (2.5), 3.5 (1.5)* Rams         +3.25 (1 unit)          3.5 (1.5), 2.5 (no bet) I will be around to write-up / discuss all.  Just wanted to get them up early.

     

    I am glad you finally agreed Bucs are going to the superbowl

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 5:28 PM ET #29

    I only disagree with texans.  BOL

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    I only disagree with texans.  BOL

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 5:36 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    @jefff Great comments - appreciated. I think the Dolphins will have some success running the ball on the Chiefs.  Couple that with very cold (hopefully) windy weather, and I can see them hanging around and maybe winning. The chiefs are no prize here either.  Very average team.

     

    agree on KC.  quite honestly I'd love to fade KC, Miami, TB and Philly.  Feels like they are all limping into the playoffs. 

    Tua just isnt Tua behind this OLine.  Waddle hurt.  Mostert hurt. Howard hurt. Chubb out.  They seem like a shell of the team they used to be.

    KC seems much healthier except for Kadarius...and him being out could be addition by subtraction for the Chefs.  

    Will have to give this some more thought I guess

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    @jefff Great comments - appreciated. I think the Dolphins will have some success running the ball on the Chiefs.  Couple that with very cold (hopefully) windy weather, and I can see them hanging around and maybe winning. The chiefs are no prize here either.  Very average team.

     

    agree on KC.  quite honestly I'd love to fade KC, Miami, TB and Philly.  Feels like they are all limping into the playoffs. 

    Tua just isnt Tua behind this OLine.  Waddle hurt.  Mostert hurt. Howard hurt. Chubb out.  They seem like a shell of the team they used to be.

    KC seems much healthier except for Kadarius...and him being out could be addition by subtraction for the Chefs.  

    Will have to give this some more thought I guess

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 6:14 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by Theasscritic: Good work this year mr.vanzack , stay hot sir  As for your TBAY ? play why do you like them ? im all over PHILLY -2.5 You must not be a numbers person or care about recent statistics.... Eagles last 6 games:Niners 42 Eagles 19 (at philly)Cowboys 33 Eagles 13Seahawks 20 Eagles 17Eagles 33 Giants 25 (at philly)Cards 35 Eagles 31 (at philly)Giants 27 Eagles 10 DVOA last 6 games (nfl rank): Pass Offense 15Rush Offense 15Pass Defense 30Rush Defense 30 Honestly, if you took the green uniform off and just looked at their stats, you would be amazed they are in the playoffs.  This is a classic name only team on a huge late season slide that is deserved - with tons of injuries and the looks of a team that has already packed it in.  Their defense is ATTROCIOUS.   The only hope the Eagles have is to put up a big number - because the Bucs are going to score.  How are they going to do that?  Bucs defense in last 6 is 9/8 (pass/rush) in the NFL. I'm just not seeing how the Eagles can win on either side of the ball.  You are getting the better offense, better defense, healthier team by a mile - as a dog. Sign me up.

    @vanzack 

    You always do a great job on breaking down exactly how a team is playing right now.  peace_5

    I noticed you share a lot on how defenses pressure the qbs from previous posts. Any concern that the high pressure rate that the Eagles typically bring will spell trouble for Baker? 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theasscritic: Good work this year mr.vanzack , stay hot sir  As for your TBAY ? play why do you like them ? im all over PHILLY -2.5 You must not be a numbers person or care about recent statistics.... Eagles last 6 games:Niners 42 Eagles 19 (at philly)Cowboys 33 Eagles 13Seahawks 20 Eagles 17Eagles 33 Giants 25 (at philly)Cards 35 Eagles 31 (at philly)Giants 27 Eagles 10 DVOA last 6 games (nfl rank): Pass Offense 15Rush Offense 15Pass Defense 30Rush Defense 30 Honestly, if you took the green uniform off and just looked at their stats, you would be amazed they are in the playoffs.  This is a classic name only team on a huge late season slide that is deserved - with tons of injuries and the looks of a team that has already packed it in.  Their defense is ATTROCIOUS.   The only hope the Eagles have is to put up a big number - because the Bucs are going to score.  How are they going to do that?  Bucs defense in last 6 is 9/8 (pass/rush) in the NFL. I'm just not seeing how the Eagles can win on either side of the ball.  You are getting the better offense, better defense, healthier team by a mile - as a dog. Sign me up.

    @vanzack 

    You always do a great job on breaking down exactly how a team is playing right now.  peace_5

    I noticed you share a lot on how defenses pressure the qbs from previous posts. Any concern that the high pressure rate that the Eagles typically bring will spell trouble for Baker? 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 7:10 PM ET #33

    GL VanZack

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    Nice card, keep up the great work.

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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 8:02 PM ET #35

     

    * Bucs         +3     (4 units)           3.5 (4.5), 2.5 (3)

    * Texans     +2.75  (3.5 units)       3 (4), 2.5 (3), 2 (2.5)

    * Steelers    +9.75 (2.5 units)       10.5 (3), 8 (2)

    * Cowboys    -7.5   (2 units)          -8 (1.5), -7 (2.5)

    * Dolphins    +4.5   (2 units)          5 (2.5), 3.5 (1.5)

    5 is a key number these days?  Half unit addition for that half point? You only add a half unit for Tampa to get to 3.5 which has to be more important, right?

    * Rams         +3.25 (1 unit)          3.5 (1.5), 2.5 (no bet)

     

    Also, is it normal for you to have plays on every wildcard game?

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    * Bucs         +3     (4 units)           3.5 (4.5), 2.5 (3)

    * Texans     +2.75  (3.5 units)       3 (4), 2.5 (3), 2 (2.5)

    * Steelers    +9.75 (2.5 units)       10.5 (3), 8 (2)

    * Cowboys    -7.5   (2 units)          -8 (1.5), -7 (2.5)

    * Dolphins    +4.5   (2 units)          5 (2.5), 3.5 (1.5)

    5 is a key number these days?  Half unit addition for that half point? You only add a half unit for Tampa to get to 3.5 which has to be more important, right?

    * Rams         +3.25 (1 unit)          3.5 (1.5), 2.5 (no bet)

     

    Also, is it normal for you to have plays on every wildcard game?

     
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     Good luck Vanzack and thanks for posting your plays early.cool

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     Good luck Vanzack and thanks for posting your plays early.cool

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 8:23 PM ET #37

    @vanzack

     It seems that many can’t get over the fact that last year’s Super Bowl teams are possibly two of the worst teams in this year’s playoffs.


    The Eagles are tired. They’re beat up. Look at the players in post game/ mid week interviews. Kelce looks old and worn out. The coach is clinging on to hope that his team hasn’t given up. As of late they are one of the worst teams in the league.

    Kansas City is in a similar situation, but with a better defense. Mahomes remains seemingly confident that offense will get going, but the numbers are what they are. This team can’t score enough. Maybe the week off helps, but the problems go deeper than rest. Will Travis Kelce show up in the playoffs? Or is he too busy making commercials and banging Taylor Swift?

     The comment you made in one of your posts is perfect. Take the jerseys off these two teams and you can’t even recognize them. KC now laying 4.5 against Miami? They better hope that the weather wins the game for them.

    Love all the plays with the exception of Dallas. Cowboys are no doubt the better team, but if Green Bay jumps out to an early lead like they did on Thanksgiving, it will be tough to cover the number. GL van great season peace_5

     

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     It seems that many can’t get over the fact that last year’s Super Bowl teams are possibly two of the worst teams in this year’s playoffs.


    The Eagles are tired. They’re beat up. Look at the players in post game/ mid week interviews. Kelce looks old and worn out. The coach is clinging on to hope that his team hasn’t given up. As of late they are one of the worst teams in the league.

    Kansas City is in a similar situation, but with a better defense. Mahomes remains seemingly confident that offense will get going, but the numbers are what they are. This team can’t score enough. Maybe the week off helps, but the problems go deeper than rest. Will Travis Kelce show up in the playoffs? Or is he too busy making commercials and banging Taylor Swift?

     The comment you made in one of your posts is perfect. Take the jerseys off these two teams and you can’t even recognize them. KC now laying 4.5 against Miami? They better hope that the weather wins the game for them.

    Love all the plays with the exception of Dallas. Cowboys are no doubt the better team, but if Green Bay jumps out to an early lead like they did on Thanksgiving, it will be tough to cover the number. GL van great season peace_5

     

     
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    This is a great thread, keep it going 

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    This is a great thread, keep it going 

     
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    I’ll keep it going for you

    It doesn’t matter what the eagles have done the last 6 weeks  , on Monday night both teams are O and O, and the only thing that will matter is the man in front of you

    the eagles are MORE MAN than the buccaneers ! 

     

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    I’ll keep it going for you

    It doesn’t matter what the eagles have done the last 6 weeks  , on Monday night both teams are O and O, and the only thing that will matter is the man in front of you

    the eagles are MORE MAN than the buccaneers ! 

     

     
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     That Turkeyday game is still fresh in the minds of dog bettors which is why the books laid the trap with +7.5  I am betting Dallas 1st half because of that 7-1 ats record at home only behind Denver's 8-1 ats 1st half home record which had a ROI of 70.35 %. Dallas will be up 16-10 at half and then pull away to a 33-20 win IMHO quiet 

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     That Turkeyday game is still fresh in the minds of dog bettors which is why the books laid the trap with +7.5  I am betting Dallas 1st half because of that 7-1 ats record at home only behind Denver's 8-1 ats 1st half home record which had a ROI of 70.35 %. Dallas will be up 16-10 at half and then pull away to a 33-20 win IMHO quiet 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 9:42 PM ET #41

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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 9:47 PM ET #42

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     Nice

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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 9:57 PM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by Theasscritic:

    @RavensOsNHoes   I’ll keep it going for you It doesn’t matter what the eagles have done the last 6 weeks  , on Monday night both teams are O and O, and the only thing that will matter is the man in front of you the eagles are MORE MAN than the buccaneers !

     

    GREAT THREAD!!

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    @RavensOsNHoes   I’ll keep it going for you It doesn’t matter what the eagles have done the last 6 weeks  , on Monday night both teams are O and O, and the only thing that will matter is the man in front of you the eagles are MORE MAN than the buccaneers !

     

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    Posted: Jan. 10, 2024 - 11:46 PM ET #44

    GL this weekend Van!! peace_5

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    GL this weekend Van!! peace_5

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 12:26 AM ET #45

    If Philly was playing anyone else in the playoffs I would agree they would get smoked but as bad as Phil has looked of late, Tampa has looked worse. Did you watch their game 2 weeks ago vs the Saints. They were horrible. My biggest bet this weekend will be on Philly.

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    If Philly was playing anyone else in the playoffs I would agree they would get smoked but as bad as Phil has looked of late, Tampa has looked worse. Did you watch their game 2 weeks ago vs the Saints. They were horrible. My biggest bet this weekend will be on Philly.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 1:23 AM ET #46

    been fading philly for a few weeks no. i see no reason to stop here. are they really going to turn the switch on just like that? i mean losing to arizona and the giants the way they did is concerning. even when philly was winning they were getting outgained and outplayed. 

    dont care about stroud being a rookie. he has shown poise. but that defense in cleveland is legit. have to check the texans dline injuries but will anderson not playing in last weeks must win game and already starting with 2 DNP's is concerning. he is huge for that run D. if texans cannot stop the run, i think browns offense will find some success especially with the way flacco is playing. also have to check if woods and brown are playing for houston. nico collins is a beast, but this isnt the colts pass defense. honestly im surprised you are so big on texans after what we saw last week. indy really should have won that imo. would like to here your thoughts here van.

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    been fading philly for a few weeks no. i see no reason to stop here. are they really going to turn the switch on just like that? i mean losing to arizona and the giants the way they did is concerning. even when philly was winning they were getting outgained and outplayed. 

    dont care about stroud being a rookie. he has shown poise. but that defense in cleveland is legit. have to check the texans dline injuries but will anderson not playing in last weeks must win game and already starting with 2 DNP's is concerning. he is huge for that run D. if texans cannot stop the run, i think browns offense will find some success especially with the way flacco is playing. also have to check if woods and brown are playing for houston. nico collins is a beast, but this isnt the colts pass defense. honestly im surprised you are so big on texans after what we saw last week. indy really should have won that imo. would like to here your thoughts here van.

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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 2:33 AM ET #47

    Leaning your way on all peace_5

     

    Phins are last on my lean list, but no way I can lay point with KC. Tua won't be throwing bombs in the freezing night air....so Achane and Masterton gonna be running more.....KC wrs have been their downfall and they can't really make up for it because their running game is mediocre at best....Digging the under 44.....I dont think the winner scores more than 20.....

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    Phins are last on my lean list, but no way I can lay point with KC. Tua won't be throwing bombs in the freezing night air....so Achane and Masterton gonna be running more.....KC wrs have been their downfall and they can't really make up for it because their running game is mediocre at best....Digging the under 44.....I dont think the winner scores more than 20.....

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 3:07 AM ET #48

    Van:

    Love the Steelers plus the points here and the UNDER as the projected weather is horrendous winds

    No passing success and field goals will be problematic..................................gl

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    Love the Steelers plus the points here and the UNDER as the projected weather is horrendous winds

    No passing success and field goals will be problematic..................................gl

     
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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 5:26 AM ET #49

     Van, what's your take on the Lions/Rams game ..

     

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    Posted: Jan. 11, 2024 - 6:03 AM ET #50

    Since no one asked ya, any explanation as to why you have confidence in the Cowboys laying 7, along with a very scary looking hook?

    You can be brief, tremendous job all year.

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    Since no one asked ya, any explanation as to why you have confidence in the Cowboys laying 7, along with a very scary looking hook?

    You can be brief, tremendous job all year.

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