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    Who is Philly to be laying 8pts to anyone?????

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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2018 - 2:45 PM ET #26

    Sorry, but the only number that is important in the context of your argument is the 8. You bought to the 8 from the 7.5. The 6 and the 7 are irrelevant in this discussion. 

    Getting a good line vs. buying points is a totally different discussion. Getting the best line is ALWAYS advisable and should obviously be strived for, but you sound foolish when suggesting I wait to see the game fall on 6 or 7 because you bought up to the 8 from the 7.5. 

    Buying points is for losers that think subtracting from EV is a good bet. However, if you trick yourself into believing the 6, 7, and 8 all matter in regard to your 1/2 point purchases, then it might "seem" like it works out in a flawed mind. 

     

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    Sorry, but the only number that is important in the context of your argument is the 8. You bought to the 8 from the 7.5. The 6 and the 7 are irrelevant in this discussion. 

    Getting a good line vs. buying points is a totally different discussion. Getting the best line is ALWAYS advisable and should obviously be strived for, but you sound foolish when suggesting I wait to see the game fall on 6 or 7 because you bought up to the 8 from the 7.5. 

    Buying points is for losers that think subtracting from EV is a good bet. However, if you trick yourself into believing the 6, 7, and 8 all matter in regard to your 1/2 point purchases, then it might "seem" like it works out in a flawed mind. 

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2018 - 3:51 PM ET #27

    It's gambling we each have our own way I guess in the end we'll just have to see. GL with your plays
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    It's gambling we each have our own way I guess in the end we'll just have to see. GL with your plays
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2018 - 11:11 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by zebrakiller:

    redskins no qb

    Dayem.. Looks like somebody let you in on the script with Colt McCoy getting hurt.

    Like I quoted earlier from George Bush: 

    "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you.  A fooled man can't get fooled again"

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    Quote Originally Posted by zebrakiller:

    redskins no qb

    Dayem.. Looks like somebody let you in on the script with Colt McCoy getting hurt.

    Like I quoted earlier from George Bush: 

    "There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on -- shame on you.  A fooled man can't get fooled again"

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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2018 - 11:16 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by bigjc:


    ADDING

    $1000 SKINS


    Well that will do it for me that 2nd dime was a chase bet after losing last night with the Steelers. I bet way more than usual on this one and need to take a step back and recharge. This one hurt! With Christmas coming, another kid on the way it's for sure time to chill. I know I will deeply missed and my picks hahaha lol but good luck to all going foward and continue to take the books $$$$$$ there are way more of us than them. Have a great Holiday Men!!!! ROOKIE FOR LIFE!!! PS Sanchez go F yourself you DOPE
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    ADDING

    $1000 SKINS


    Well that will do it for me that 2nd dime was a chase bet after losing last night with the Steelers. I bet way more than usual on this one and need to take a step back and recharge. This one hurt! With Christmas coming, another kid on the way it's for sure time to chill. I know I will deeply missed and my picks hahaha lol but good luck to all going foward and continue to take the books $$$$$$ there are way more of us than them. Have a great Holiday Men!!!! ROOKIE FOR LIFE!!! PS Sanchez go F yourself you DOPE
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2018 - 11:20 PM ET #30

    More like who is Washington getting only +8?

    Well thats gambling, u win some u lose some.

    Hope u bounce back.

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    More like who is Washington getting only +8?

    Well thats gambling, u win some u lose some.

    Hope u bounce back.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2018 - 11:36 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by AFNfootballnerd:



    NFL
    NFL
    CBB
    3 TEAM SPECIAL TEASERS
    [354] PITTSBURGH STEELERS +7-120 (B+10)
    [379] WASHINGTON REDSKINS +16-110 (B+10)
    [728] UCLA -2½-115 (B+7)

    2600 / 2000

    Should I hedge this? 

    I thought I was done for sure when Mark sanchez took the field....has to be top 3 worst games to endure hanging on with +16 
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    NFL
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    CBB
    3 TEAM SPECIAL TEASERS
    [354] PITTSBURGH STEELERS +7-120 (B+10)
    [379] WASHINGTON REDSKINS +16-110 (B+10)
    [728] UCLA -2½-115 (B+7)

    2600 / 2000

    Should I hedge this? 

    I thought I was done for sure when Mark sanchez took the field....has to be top 3 worst games to endure hanging on with +16 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2018 - 11:38 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by bigjc:


    Neither do the Eagles....lol

    Sup
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigjc:


    Neither do the Eagles....lol

    Sup
     
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    Posted: Dec. 3, 2018 - 11:57 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by EuroPro:

    lol buying pts. square 101. colt should be playing junior college ball

     

    I cashed on both steelers and skins....sometimes being square pays peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by EuroPro:

    lol buying pts. square 101. colt should be playing junior college ball

     

    I cashed on both steelers and skins....sometimes being square pays peace_5

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2018 - 12:01 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Bigjc. I would like to interject some rational thought on buying points as it puts the gambler at a horrible disadvantage when doing so. As it is typical that purchasing a half point will cost you an additional 10% of your wager (double that to an additional 20% for a total of 30% juice on or off the 3 or the 7), it puts the gambler in the situation where he will need to land on his "payout" or "push" numbers a highly unrealistic percentage of the time when compared to the true odds of the event.  Regardless of the vig boost, the expected value of your bet drops dramatically and is at the worst when buying on/off the 3 or 7. In the case of the 3 or 7, your "payout or push" number must land an absurd 30% or more on the number to show a profit. Most seasoned gamblers understand the implications of the math involved here but your statements above to EuroPro makes me think otherwise. The key word in your sentence ("seems"), makes me think you are not keeping track of how much money buying points has cost you in your lifetime (it's a lot).  If you want to maximize profits, find a book that will allow you to sell points back (5dimes). This lesson is now over. Good luck if you continue down your unprofitable path.


    Man I learned so much from this. Thank you guru

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Bigjc. I would like to interject some rational thought on buying points as it puts the gambler at a horrible disadvantage when doing so. As it is typical that purchasing a half point will cost you an additional 10% of your wager (double that to an additional 20% for a total of 30% juice on or off the 3 or the 7), it puts the gambler in the situation where he will need to land on his "payout" or "push" numbers a highly unrealistic percentage of the time when compared to the true odds of the event.  Regardless of the vig boost, the expected value of your bet drops dramatically and is at the worst when buying on/off the 3 or 7. In the case of the 3 or 7, your "payout or push" number must land an absurd 30% or more on the number to show a profit. Most seasoned gamblers understand the implications of the math involved here but your statements above to EuroPro makes me think otherwise. The key word in your sentence ("seems"), makes me think you are not keeping track of how much money buying points has cost you in your lifetime (it's a lot).  If you want to maximize profits, find a book that will allow you to sell points back (5dimes). This lesson is now over. Good luck if you continue down your unprofitable path.


    Man I learned so much from this. Thank you guru

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2018 - 12:10 AM ET #35

    Thanks CK. I have preached on this subject many, many times over the years. The books make enough off of the gambling public taking the standard juice. Handing and extra 10% or 20% to them on straight bets is financial suicide. 

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    Thanks CK. I have preached on this subject many, many times over the years. The books make enough off of the gambling public taking the standard juice. Handing and extra 10% or 20% to them on straight bets is financial suicide. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2018 - 12:22 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by FallopianTuber:


    Sup

    Really dude? It's cool ur a Birds fan as am I but he beat a 3rd string dummy.....celebrate last year over and over and over cause it ain't happenin again for a looooooooong time...... 2108 Champs! yay....see it's easy
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    Sup

    Really dude? It's cool ur a Birds fan as am I but he beat a 3rd string dummy.....celebrate last year over and over and over cause it ain't happenin again for a looooooooong time...... 2108 Champs! yay....see it's easy
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2018 - 12:33 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by bigjc:

    Quote Originally Posted by FallopianTuber:

    Sup
    Really dude? It's cool ur a Birds fan as am I but he beat a 3rd string dummy.....celebrate last year over and over and over cause it ain't happenin again for a looooooooong time...... 2108 Champs! yay....see it's easy

     

    Most teams don't win super bowls for extended periods of time, but last I checked no one expected us to win last year especially with our backup and yet it still happened....but thanks for telling us the future Nostradamus 

    People just love to hate on Philly. Not many teams in this league who wouldn't take Wentz going forward. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by FallopianTuber:

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    Really dude? It's cool ur a Birds fan as am I but he beat a 3rd string dummy.....celebrate last year over and over and over cause it ain't happenin again for a looooooooong time...... 2108 Champs! yay....see it's easy

     

    Most teams don't win super bowls for extended periods of time, but last I checked no one expected us to win last year especially with our backup and yet it still happened....but thanks for telling us the future Nostradamus 

    People just love to hate on Philly. Not many teams in this league who wouldn't take Wentz going forward. 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2018 - 12:37 AM ET #38

    That McCoy injury was very unfortunate. Mark Sanchez is completely useless
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    That McCoy injury was very unfortunate. Mark Sanchez is completely useless
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2018 - 12:40 AM ET #39

    Honestly, the way that Dallas handled the Saints last week, I wouldn't count out anyone that actually gets in the playoffs. Anything can happen and like Can'tPick said....it happened last year.

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    Honestly, the way that Dallas handled the Saints last week, I wouldn't count out anyone that actually gets in the playoffs. Anything can happen and like Can'tPick said....it happened last year.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by CantPickAWinner:

    Really dude? It's cool ur a Birds fan as am I but he beat a 3rd string dummy.....celebrate last year over and over and over cause it ain't happenin again for a looooooooong time...... 2108 Champs! yay....see it's easy

     

    Most teams don't win super bowls for extended periods of time, but last I checked no one expected us to win last year especially with our backup and yet it still happened....but thanks for telling us the future Nostradamus 

    People just love to hate on Philly. Not many teams in this league who wouldn't take Wentz going forward. 


    I love the passion for Philly, I'm from South Jersey what option do I have to not be a Birds,Sixers,Flyers,Phills fan. No one hating on Philly my man and your right the Eagles aren't "most teams" and will never win back to back titles. Don't need a crystal ball for that. I just love my money more and was dumb to not follow my own rule, never bet on your own team! But you keep bleeding green chief and let me know how it goes down in Dallas....FLY EAGLES FLY
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    Really dude? It's cool ur a Birds fan as am I but he beat a 3rd string dummy.....celebrate last year over and over and over cause it ain't happenin again for a looooooooong time...... 2108 Champs! yay....see it's easy

     

    Most teams don't win super bowls for extended periods of time, but last I checked no one expected us to win last year especially with our backup and yet it still happened....but thanks for telling us the future Nostradamus 

    People just love to hate on Philly. Not many teams in this league who wouldn't take Wentz going forward. 


    I love the passion for Philly, I'm from South Jersey what option do I have to not be a Birds,Sixers,Flyers,Phills fan. No one hating on Philly my man and your right the Eagles aren't "most teams" and will never win back to back titles. Don't need a crystal ball for that. I just love my money more and was dumb to not follow my own rule, never bet on your own team! But you keep bleeding green chief and let me know how it goes down in Dallas....FLY EAGLES FLY
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 4, 2018 - 1:06 AM ET #41

    if my aunt had ball$ she'd be my uncle, heard it right??? Do any of you think that if McCoy doesn't break a leg literally, this game ends differently? and by that I mean they skins come close to covering? Is my thought process wrong? I played the eagles -6 tonight but I was worried about it up until that injury.

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    if my aunt had ball$ she'd be my uncle, heard it right??? Do any of you think that if McCoy doesn't break a leg literally, this game ends differently? and by that I mean they skins come close to covering? Is my thought process wrong? I played the eagles -6 tonight but I was worried about it up until that injury.

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