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    who had the better career ? Eli or Rodgers or Peyton ?

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    wewinandone
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:07 PM ET #26

    @JohnnyChalk

     right on

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     right on

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:13 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone:

    @AJ86  yup , as most casuals will say Peyton

    And they are correct. Don't overthink it

    2 Superbowls

    5 League MVP's

    186 Regular Season Wins.

     

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone:

    @AJ86  yup , as most casuals will say Peyton

    And they are correct. Don't overthink it

    2 Superbowls

    5 League MVP's

    186 Regular Season Wins.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:23 PM ET #28

    @AJ86

     19 years  threw

    most ints as a rookie set record ,

    missed struck out first round first 5 years ,

    9 year gap in-between super bowl appearances

    .500 super bowl record 

    barely over .500 career playoff records 

    244 interceptions top 5 

    1 Superbowl MVP 

     

    Eli 

    2-0 Superbowl's

    2x superbowl MVP 

    playoff record 8-4 

    18 td -9ints 

    57k yard career passing yards top 10 

     

     

     

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    @AJ86

     19 years  threw

    most ints as a rookie set record ,

    missed struck out first round first 5 years ,

    9 year gap in-between super bowl appearances

    .500 super bowl record 

    barely over .500 career playoff records 

    244 interceptions top 5 

    1 Superbowl MVP 

     

    Eli 

    2-0 Superbowl's

    2x superbowl MVP 

    playoff record 8-4 

    18 td -9ints 

    57k yard career passing yards top 10 

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:24 PM ET #29

    @AJ86

     all those regular season win and crapped in the playoffs

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    @AJ86

     all those regular season win and crapped in the playoffs

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:28 PM ET #30

    And yet somehow he still had the same amount of Superbowls as your guy.

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    And yet somehow he still had the same amount of Superbowls as your guy.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:29 PM ET #31

    By the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone:

    @AJ86  19 years  threw most ints as a rookie set record , missed struck out first round first 5 years , 9 year gap in-between super bowl appearances .500 super bowl record  barely over .500 career playoff records  244 interceptions top 5  1 Superbowl MVP    Eli  2-0 Superbowl's 2x superbowl MVP  playoff record 8-4  18 td -9ints  57k yard career passing yards top 10

    Nice cherry picking stats.

    Lets talk about your boy

    366 TDs, 244 Ints. Yup. Super solid.

    How many league MVPs? You know where you play solid for 16 weeks? Not just the superbowl

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    By the way.

    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone:

    @AJ86  19 years  threw most ints as a rookie set record , missed struck out first round first 5 years , 9 year gap in-between super bowl appearances .500 super bowl record  barely over .500 career playoff records  244 interceptions top 5  1 Superbowl MVP    Eli  2-0 Superbowl's 2x superbowl MVP  playoff record 8-4  18 td -9ints  57k yard career passing yards top 10

    Nice cherry picking stats.

    Lets talk about your boy

    366 TDs, 244 Ints. Yup. Super solid.

    How many league MVPs? You know where you play solid for 16 weeks? Not just the superbowl

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:32 PM ET #32

    the NFL did a top 100 players of all time. No Eli

    NFL all decade team in 2000s. No Eli

    NFL all decade team in 2010s. No Eli.

     

    I have seen Peyton all over the place. But no Eli.

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    the NFL did a top 100 players of all time. No Eli

    NFL all decade team in 2000s. No Eli

    NFL all decade team in 2010s. No Eli.

     

    I have seen Peyton all over the place. But no Eli.

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:37 PM ET #33

    @AJ86

    2-0 

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    @AJ86

    2-0 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:38 PM ET #34

    @AJ86

     IF he was that good should have more and should take a nine year gap to get back there

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    @AJ86

     IF he was that good should have more and should take a nine year gap to get back there

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:41 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone:

    @AJ86  IF he was that good should have more and should take a nine year gap to get back there

    Eli didn't make it to the superbowl his last 8 years in the league. What was his excuse?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone:

    @AJ86  IF he was that good should have more and should take a nine year gap to get back there

    Eli didn't make it to the superbowl his last 8 years in the league. What was his excuse?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:44 PM ET #36

    Pro Bowls

    Peyton 14

    Aaron 10

    ..........

    Eli 4

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    Pro Bowls

    Peyton 14

    Aaron 10

    ..........

    Eli 4

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:51 PM ET #37

    @wewinandone

     Stats dont matter?

     

    youre a thejester

     

    any one who was actually there knows the greatness of Peyton

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    @wewinandone

     Stats dont matter?

     

    youre a thejester

     

    any one who was actually there knows the greatness of Peyton

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:54 PM ET #38

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     Who had the better career? Eli or Mahomes?

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     Who had the better career? Eli or Mahomes?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:56 PM ET #39

    peyton by a mile 

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    peyton by a mile 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:59 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone:

    @Boa33  with a barely over 500 playoff record ?
    let me use one of them lines from the internet. "you don't know ball" peyton carried a bunch of average teams to great records in the regular season that's why his playoff record isn't great 

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    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone:

    @Boa33  with a barely over 500 playoff record ?
    let me use one of them lines from the internet. "you don't know ball" peyton carried a bunch of average teams to great records in the regular season that's why his playoff record isn't great 

     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2024 - 5:59 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ86:

    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone: @AJ86  yup , as most casuals will say Peyton And they are correct. Don't overthink it 2 Superbowls 5 League MVP's 186 Regular Season Wins.
    peace_5an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by wewinandone: @AJ86  yup , as most casuals will say Peyton And they are correct. Don't overthink it 2 Superbowls 5 League MVP's 186 Regular Season Wins.
    peace_5an_light

     
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    wait....lets take rodgers out of it for a second(because there is a separate argument you can make there on him vs peyton even if I don't agree with it)- are you really asking whether peyton manning or eli manning had the better career?  Let's see....

    -one guy won....let's see....1,2,3,4.....5 mvps.  Peyton Manning won 5 mvps.  I'll let you guess how many more mvps that is than his brother.

    -Peyton manning was 1st all nfl at qb 7 times. SEVEN.  Can you guess how many times eli did this?  Hint:  it's the same as his number of mvps.

    -Peyton manning has a 187-79 career record.  Eli?  118-118.   Yeah, I don't think those are similar.  

    And one can go on and on between how mismatched these are.  Both won two super bowls, but manning also went to two others.  Eli really didn't have any postseason success outside of those two sb runs(I mean two super bowl runs is amazing, but not so amazing compared to a guy with two super bowls and then a ton of other playoff wins)

    There is literally more difference in career quality between peyton manning and eli manning than there is between eli manning and......someone like Jake Delhomme.  Or (insert some random decent but fairly forgettable guy).  

    Like it's impossible to overstate how big the gap is between an all time great top 2-4 type nfl qb of all time and Eli Manning.  

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    wait....lets take rodgers out of it for a second(because there is a separate argument you can make there on him vs peyton even if I don't agree with it)- are you really asking whether peyton manning or eli manning had the better career?  Let's see....

    -one guy won....let's see....1,2,3,4.....5 mvps.  Peyton Manning won 5 mvps.  I'll let you guess how many more mvps that is than his brother.

    -Peyton manning was 1st all nfl at qb 7 times. SEVEN.  Can you guess how many times eli did this?  Hint:  it's the same as his number of mvps.

    -Peyton manning has a 187-79 career record.  Eli?  118-118.   Yeah, I don't think those are similar.  

    And one can go on and on between how mismatched these are.  Both won two super bowls, but manning also went to two others.  Eli really didn't have any postseason success outside of those two sb runs(I mean two super bowl runs is amazing, but not so amazing compared to a guy with two super bowls and then a ton of other playoff wins)

    There is literally more difference in career quality between peyton manning and eli manning than there is between eli manning and......someone like Jake Delhomme.  Or (insert some random decent but fairly forgettable guy).  

    Like it's impossible to overstate how big the gap is between an all time great top 2-4 type nfl qb of all time and Eli Manning.  

     
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    Aside from the two Super Bowl runs...Eli was a very average qb or worse most of his career.....500 record....never considered a top 5 qb during any era of his career.......and in those runs the defense was the star...no doubt....although he had some big moments.......Rodgers has played at a super high level much much more of the time.....obvious by the multiple map awards.....Manning is clearly on top here ....although judging by pure talent and mobility Rodgers wins.....but got to give nod to Manning i guess......although his second Super Bowl he wasn't even a top 20 qb that season with his health...defense totally won that game against Carolina.......Manning shouldn't even be in conversation really.....winning a title isn't the whole story...many guys won titles who were average or below average .....and many who were really great in their era didn't (Tarkenton...Fouts....Marino....).....

     

     

     

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    Aside from the two Super Bowl runs...Eli was a very average qb or worse most of his career.....500 record....never considered a top 5 qb during any era of his career.......and in those runs the defense was the star...no doubt....although he had some big moments.......Rodgers has played at a super high level much much more of the time.....obvious by the multiple map awards.....Manning is clearly on top here ....although judging by pure talent and mobility Rodgers wins.....but got to give nod to Manning i guess......although his second Super Bowl he wasn't even a top 20 qb that season with his health...defense totally won that game against Carolina.......Manning shouldn't even be in conversation really.....winning a title isn't the whole story...many guys won titles who were average or below average .....and many who were really great in their era didn't (Tarkenton...Fouts....Marino....).....

     

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by qzip:

    wait....lets take rodgers out of it for a second(because there is a separate argument you can make there on him vs peyton even if I don't agree with it)- are you really asking whether peyton manning or eli manning had the better career?  Let's see.... -one guy won....let's see....1,2,3,4.....5 mvps.  Peyton Manning won 5 mvps.  I'll let you guess how many more mvps that is than his brother. -Peyton manning was 1st all nfl at qb 7 times. SEVEN.  Can you guess how many times eli did this?  Hint:  it's the same as his number of mvps. -Peyton manning has a 187-79 career record.  Eli?  118-118.   Yeah, I don't think those are similar.   And one can go on and on between how mismatched these are.  Both won two super bowls, but manning also went to two others.  Eli really didn't have any postseason success outside of those two sb runs(I mean two super bowl runs is amazing, but not so amazing compared to a guy with two super bowls and then a ton of other playoff wins) There is literally more difference in career quality between peyton manning and eli manning than there is between eli manning and......someone like Jake Delhomme.  Or (insert some random decent but fairly forgettable guy).   Like it's impossible to overstate how big the gap is between an all time great top 2-4 type nfl qb of all time and Eli Manning.
    100 percent. eli was considered a joke for half of his career lol

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    wait....lets take rodgers out of it for a second(because there is a separate argument you can make there on him vs peyton even if I don't agree with it)- are you really asking whether peyton manning or eli manning had the better career?  Let's see.... -one guy won....let's see....1,2,3,4.....5 mvps.  Peyton Manning won 5 mvps.  I'll let you guess how many more mvps that is than his brother. -Peyton manning was 1st all nfl at qb 7 times. SEVEN.  Can you guess how many times eli did this?  Hint:  it's the same as his number of mvps. -Peyton manning has a 187-79 career record.  Eli?  118-118.   Yeah, I don't think those are similar.   And one can go on and on between how mismatched these are.  Both won two super bowls, but manning also went to two others.  Eli really didn't have any postseason success outside of those two sb runs(I mean two super bowl runs is amazing, but not so amazing compared to a guy with two super bowls and then a ton of other playoff wins) There is literally more difference in career quality between peyton manning and eli manning than there is between eli manning and......someone like Jake Delhomme.  Or (insert some random decent but fairly forgettable guy).   Like it's impossible to overstate how big the gap is between an all time great top 2-4 type nfl qb of all time and Eli Manning.
    100 percent. eli was considered a joke for half of his career lol

     
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     By 'mahomes'.......do you mean Patrick Mahomes?  I'm assuming since the comparison is eli Manning, there is some other mahomes that I don't remember who was a fairly decent but unspectactular player a long time ago?

    Because if it's patrick mahomes, I can only conclude that you're as clueless as the original poster who posed the eli vs peyton question.

    Let me give you guys a hint-  Eli Manning is not comparable to any of the following qbs:  Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Montana.  Well a bunch more than that(like 30 plus more pretty easily but whatever), but lets just start there.....

     

    I swear....is eli's wife coming on here to ask these questions?  

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     By 'mahomes'.......do you mean Patrick Mahomes?  I'm assuming since the comparison is eli Manning, there is some other mahomes that I don't remember who was a fairly decent but unspectactular player a long time ago?

    Because if it's patrick mahomes, I can only conclude that you're as clueless as the original poster who posed the eli vs peyton question.

    Let me give you guys a hint-  Eli Manning is not comparable to any of the following qbs:  Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Montana.  Well a bunch more than that(like 30 plus more pretty easily but whatever), but lets just start there.....

     

    I swear....is eli's wife coming on here to ask these questions?  

     
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     avg ? he had one of the greatest Wr and they keep him a nice running back , defense kept teams under control 

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     avg ? he had one of the greatest Wr and they keep him a nice running back , defense kept teams under control 

     
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     Peyton 251 ints and 500 tds ? is that a great ratio no 

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     well he's not a 'joke'.  He was a slightly above average(the advanced stats and his record state he was average exactly; I tend to think he was a touch better and those two metrics underrate him a little.  And there is value in being a slightly above average nfl qb for so many years......especially when you are the starting qb of two super bowl wins during that time.  That's a very impressive accomplishment.

    But in no way should it elevate such a player to literally all time great qbs of the game.  

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     well he's not a 'joke'.  He was a slightly above average(the advanced stats and his record state he was average exactly; I tend to think he was a touch better and those two metrics underrate him a little.  And there is value in being a slightly above average nfl qb for so many years......especially when you are the starting qb of two super bowl wins during that time.  That's a very impressive accomplishment.

    But in no way should it elevate such a player to literally all time great qbs of the game.  

     
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    Football such a team game......just ask Josh Allen...who had one of greatest playoff games ever....gave his team the lead with 13 seconds to go.....only to walk off a loser......or Jim kelly.....twice the qb Manning ever was.....who watched his kicker miss the winning kick.....keeping him from winning the Super Bowl......then having to watch guys like Trent Dilfer and Nick Foles win rings.......nothing against Foles...he had a great run end of that season....but you get the point.....

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    Football such a team game......just ask Josh Allen...who had one of greatest playoff games ever....gave his team the lead with 13 seconds to go.....only to walk off a loser......or Jim kelly.....twice the qb Manning ever was.....who watched his kicker miss the winning kick.....keeping him from winning the Super Bowl......then having to watch guys like Trent Dilfer and Nick Foles win rings.......nothing against Foles...he had a great run end of that season....but you get the point.....

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