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    Whether or not you want to admit it.... if the refs would have called a good game, Niners win

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    Wasn't planning on chiming in on this as whats the point at this point but I keep reading stuff and seeing videos that make me want to bang my head against the wall people are so clueless so heres my take.

    First off, NFL refs are a fucking problem. Theres about 7 or 8 calls I can think of just off the top of my head that were blatantly ignored or called incorrectly and literally all of them went against the 49ers. People who act like the NFL refs are Gods and what they do and say is absolute and they shouldnt be questioned are idiotic. I cant answer why or how this would happen in a Super Bowl but yes it did and its disgraceful. And why that blind pile of shit Bill Vinovich is even allowed anywhere near an NFL stadium after the Rams/Saints debacle makes no sense, let alone him reffing the Super Bowl. At the very least, get someone who is not responsible for the biggest officiating debacle in NFL Playoff history to ref the biggest game of the year. This is like elementary level common sense.

    All that being said, The Niners did not help their cause any by not playing well at all on either side of the ball in the last 12 minutes of the game. But how does a blatant offside call, a helmet to helmet hit, and a late hit out of bounds all go unnoticed? I havent even mentioned the bullshit PI Call on Kittle that goes uncalled 95% of the time in the NFL. Guy steps out of bounds and they call it a TD? Not to mention the Chiefs did not get one holding called on them all game, and Bosa was clearly held on the 3rd and 15 heave down the field that changed the game. Shanahan, while a great offensive mind, has one flaw and I have said this before, he has a tendency to outthink himself late in close games. If you would have told me Niners will be up 10 in the 4th quarter and they will basically abandon the run I would have laughed and called you insane. And Jimmy G missed on some passes he usually makes. The secondary struggled to contain the Chiefs speedy WRS which was my biggest fear. So the truth is theres plenty of blame to go around but honestly if the refs did their job correctly we would not be talking about any of this we would be celebrating the 6th SB win in franchise history. Cause and effect people. The repercusssions of calling or failing to call something on the field are greater than just that particular play they affect the rest of the game.

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    Wasn't planning on chiming in on this as whats the point at this point but I keep reading stuff and seeing videos that make me want to bang my head against the wall people are so clueless so heres my take.

    First off, NFL refs are a fucking problem. Theres about 7 or 8 calls I can think of just off the top of my head that were blatantly ignored or called incorrectly and literally all of them went against the 49ers. People who act like the NFL refs are Gods and what they do and say is absolute and they shouldnt be questioned are idiotic. I cant answer why or how this would happen in a Super Bowl but yes it did and its disgraceful. And why that blind pile of shit Bill Vinovich is even allowed anywhere near an NFL stadium after the Rams/Saints debacle makes no sense, let alone him reffing the Super Bowl. At the very least, get someone who is not responsible for the biggest officiating debacle in NFL Playoff history to ref the biggest game of the year. This is like elementary level common sense.

    All that being said, The Niners did not help their cause any by not playing well at all on either side of the ball in the last 12 minutes of the game. But how does a blatant offside call, a helmet to helmet hit, and a late hit out of bounds all go unnoticed? I havent even mentioned the bullshit PI Call on Kittle that goes uncalled 95% of the time in the NFL. Guy steps out of bounds and they call it a TD? Not to mention the Chiefs did not get one holding called on them all game, and Bosa was clearly held on the 3rd and 15 heave down the field that changed the game. Shanahan, while a great offensive mind, has one flaw and I have said this before, he has a tendency to outthink himself late in close games. If you would have told me Niners will be up 10 in the 4th quarter and they will basically abandon the run I would have laughed and called you insane. And Jimmy G missed on some passes he usually makes. The secondary struggled to contain the Chiefs speedy WRS which was my biggest fear. So the truth is theres plenty of blame to go around but honestly if the refs did their job correctly we would not be talking about any of this we would be celebrating the 6th SB win in franchise history. Cause and effect people. The repercusssions of calling or failing to call something on the field are greater than just that particular play they affect the rest of the game.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 2:21 AM ET #2

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    I havent even mentioned the bullshit PI Call on Kittle that goes uncalled 95% of the time in the NFL.

    So only the calls that went against the Niners? He clearly stiff armed the defender and created separation allowing him to make the catch, it was pretty f'n blatant, why do you think the PI call was not challenged? It was clearly a huge yardage play that would warrant a challenge if it was a bad call.

    Move along...we have heard enough whining from the likes of you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    I havent even mentioned the bullshit PI Call on Kittle that goes uncalled 95% of the time in the NFL.

    So only the calls that went against the Niners? He clearly stiff armed the defender and created separation allowing him to make the catch, it was pretty f'n blatant, why do you think the PI call was not challenged? It was clearly a huge yardage play that would warrant a challenge if it was a bad call.

    Move along...we have heard enough whining from the likes of you.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 2:32 AM ET #3

    It wasnt challenged because under 2 minutes everything is a booth review you moron. And yes, no questionable calls went the Niners way. Not one.

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    It wasnt challenged because under 2 minutes everything is a booth review you moron. And yes, no questionable calls went the Niners way. Not one.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 4:46 AM ET #4

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    It wasnt challenged because under 2 minutes everything is a booth review you moron. And yes, no questionable calls went the Niners way. Not one.

    Cry harder, nobody cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    It wasnt challenged because under 2 minutes everything is a booth review you moron. And yes, no questionable calls went the Niners way. Not one.

    Cry harder, nobody cares.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 11:00 AM ET #5

    You will not survive here. You are not a wolf, and this is the land of wolves now...
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 11:58 AM ET #6

    Jimmy G missed throws.....  Plain and simple.  Stop crying..

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    Jimmy G missed throws.....  Plain and simple.  Stop crying..

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 12:32 PM ET #7

    People are STILL crying about this?  Find a better use of your time. 
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    People are STILL crying about this?  Find a better use of your time. 
     
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    Also, what’s all this non-sense in regards to vinovich?  He’s the head ref thus he is watching the qb and making sure no late hits on qb. It’s not his job, nor does he watch plays downfield. Also, head refs do not call PI’s as that doesn’t happen in the back field. In addition, PI wasn’t reviewable during that saints/Vikings debacle. So quit with this being vinovich’s fault. Just goes to show how little most of you actually know. 
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    Also, what’s all this non-sense in regards to vinovich?  He’s the head ref thus he is watching the qb and making sure no late hits on qb. It’s not his job, nor does he watch plays downfield. Also, head refs do not call PI’s as that doesn’t happen in the back field. In addition, PI wasn’t reviewable during that saints/Vikings debacle. So quit with this being vinovich’s fault. Just goes to show how little most of you actually know. 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 1:20 PM ET #9

    clear PI on kittle man... ohhh they dont call it sometimes, THEY DID this time and it was PI... 

     

    and L O L at not even finding bad calls but saying "no holdings called" an_roll_laugh are you kidding?? you have no Phantom calls, no blatant no calls of PI but refs suck because they didnt call of. holding on the chiefs.. oh man, what a nice way to cry

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    clear PI on kittle man... ohhh they dont call it sometimes, THEY DID this time and it was PI... 

     

    and L O L at not even finding bad calls but saying "no holdings called" an_roll_laugh are you kidding?? you have no Phantom calls, no blatant no calls of PI but refs suck because they didnt call of. holding on the chiefs.. oh man, what a nice way to cry

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 2:12 PM ET #11

    You would think "the best team the NFL has seen in a long time" could overcome a few missed penalties when leading by 10pts in the 4th Qtr. Shame they may never get back to the SB with a 1 read QB.
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    You would think "the best team the NFL has seen in a long time" could overcome a few missed penalties when leading by 10pts in the 4th Qtr. Shame they may never get back to the SB with a 1 read QB.
     
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    They will be back for sure.

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    They will be back for sure.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey_Punch_:

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    I havent even mentioned the bullshit PI Call on Kittle that goes uncalled 95% of the time in the NFL.
    So only the calls that went against the Niners? He clearly stiff armed the defender and created separation allowing him to make the catch, it was pretty f'n blatant, why do you think the PI call was not challenged? It was clearly a huge yardage play that would warrant a challenge if it was a bad call. Move along...we have heard enough whining from the likes of you.

    Was it worse then the Vikings game winning td vs the saints that wasn't called?   

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey_Punch_:

    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    I havent even mentioned the bullshit PI Call on Kittle that goes uncalled 95% of the time in the NFL.
    So only the calls that went against the Niners? He clearly stiff armed the defender and created separation allowing him to make the catch, it was pretty f'n blatant, why do you think the PI call was not challenged? It was clearly a huge yardage play that would warrant a challenge if it was a bad call. Move along...we have heard enough whining from the likes of you.

    Was it worse then the Vikings game winning td vs the saints that wasn't called?   

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ari:

    You would think "the best team the NFL has seen in a long time" could overcome a few missed penalties when leading by 10pts in the 4th Qtr. Shame they may never get back to the SB with a 1 read QB.


    best team we’ve seen in a long time huh.  By whos standards???  Better than those Seahawk teams?  Pats?  This team wasn’t even as good as the non super bowl winning Ravens this year.  

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    Quote Originally Posted by ari:

    You would think "the best team the NFL has seen in a long time" could overcome a few missed penalties when leading by 10pts in the 4th Qtr. Shame they may never get back to the SB with a 1 read QB.


    best team we’ve seen in a long time huh.  By whos standards???  Better than those Seahawk teams?  Pats?  This team wasn’t even as good as the non super bowl winning Ravens this year.  

     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 3:05 PM ET #15

    75 yards passing lol wat?

     

    He threw for over 200 yards

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    75 yards passing lol wat?

     

    He threw for over 200 yards

     
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    If the refs would of called a good game the Seahawks would of been NFC west champions and the 49ers would of not even sniffed the Superbowl 
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    If the refs would of called a good game the Seahawks would of been NFC west champions and the 49ers would of not even sniffed the Superbowl 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 7, 2020 - 6:26 PM ET #17

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.

    Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.
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    110% agree. All indisputable facts.

    Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.

    Which means I'm absolutely  correct  that  games are not competition. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.

    Which means I'm absolutely  correct  that  games are not competition. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.

     

    Nice to see some people still have a shred of sense. Some of the stuff I read and hear is just insane.

     

    You cant let them get away with holding. What planet do these morons come from?

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    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.

     

    Nice to see some people still have a shred of sense. Some of the stuff I read and hear is just insane.

     

    You cant let them get away with holding. What planet do these morons come from?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion.

     

    5 penalties vs. 4 penalties

     

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    Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion.

     

    5 penalties vs. 4 penalties

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.
      Nice to see some people still have a shred of sense. Some of the stuff I read and hear is just insane.   You cant let them get away with holding. What planet do these morons come from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.
      Nice to see some people still have a shred of sense. Some of the stuff I read and hear is just insane.   You cant let them get away with holding. What planet do these morons come from?

     
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    You had Jimmy Crapololo    No way this guy will ever win a Super Bowl 

    49ers won’t sniff it next year if you ask me 
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    You had Jimmy Crapololo    No way this guy will ever win a Super Bowl 

    49ers won’t sniff it next year if you ask me 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.

     

    learn the game man... 

    Fisher is finishing his block with his feet. He moves Bosa multiple yards. How often do you move someone multiple yards when you hold? You do not cuz your feet stop moving/get beat. Again, hand placement isn’t holding.


    https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1225885645496864770?s=21

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    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.

     

    learn the game man... 

    Fisher is finishing his block with his feet. He moves Bosa multiple yards. How often do you move someone multiple yards when you hold? You do not cuz your feet stop moving/get beat. Again, hand placement isn’t holding.


    https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1225885645496864770?s=21

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.
      Nice to see some people still have a shred of sense. Some of the stuff I read and hear is just insane.   You cant let them get away with holding. What planet do these morons come from?
    The same planet as whiny babies who want to find something about the game that is OVER and complain repeatedly about it. Get the phuck over it. NOTHING you say or do will change a phucking thing. You big baby

    Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyGape:

    Quote Originally Posted by ActionMagnet:

    110% agree. All indisputable facts.Refs gave KC offensive line the green light to do whatever the fcuk they wanted without repercussion. They held that dominant D line all game long and not 1 single holding flag. It was obvious as the night sky, what was going on.  Bosa was clotheslined on the 3rd and 15 SB altering play. No flag. F U SF basically.
      Nice to see some people still have a shred of sense. Some of the stuff I read and hear is just insane.   You cant let them get away with holding. What planet do these morons come from?
    The same planet as whiny babies who want to find something about the game that is OVER and complain repeatedly about it. Get the phuck over it. NOTHING you say or do will change a phucking thing. You big baby

     
     
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