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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 11:51 AM ET #51

    KC defense is ranked 29th and offence is 22. Raiders win
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:02 PM ET #52

    I'm in and out of work here but if there is a question on whether the officiating was legit in Mexico city, please get the eyes checked. In all my time watching football, I've never seen such blatant bad calls against ONE team. I mean I understand why but to be that blatant? I was in awe. The hopkins play is cut and dry. The heel was NOT down. Let's pretend it was though. Move to the two plays suuma is referring to. Watching the game LIVE, there is no question that on 3rd down the running backs knee is down short of the line YET the ball is extended visibly across the line of gain simulateneously as the knee touched. Replays show it much clearer. Ok, close call. Obrien should have challenged there. He didn't so I can live with that, i guess.....Here's the issue though: when they measured the ball, the ref showed the chains and how short they were. I'd say it was two inches.....So on 4th down, both live and replay, you mean to tell me the running back didn't gain any INCHES? None? Ultimately, after the spot where players were hovered around the chains, what angle do they show the public? They show the angle where the ball is on the other side of the chain marker. Interesting..... Along with that, both announcers say first down and gruden is flipping out. On all the replays, he not only crosses the line of scrimmage, he extends the ball past the first down which, is farther than the two inches the Texans needed. So they spot the ball and then then review it. The fact that they reviewed it, gave no explanation and said to us and the Texans he LOST inches....again, it's clear what was going on there. You can't argue it. It's not like the Michigan Ohio state game where you can argue the spot. Ultimately, The spots in Mexico city were horrid and it was embarrassing. No doubt about it. How can one question that?! Nycgags, a spade is a spade. How that transfers to o resent day and future? Well Oakland has gotten a ton of calls this year and to say they've won some of their games without the help of refs is crazy. Tonite, with all that being said, I could see the raiders taking this one.....
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    I'm in and out of work here but if there is a question on whether the officiating was legit in Mexico city, please get the eyes checked. In all my time watching football, I've never seen such blatant bad calls against ONE team. I mean I understand why but to be that blatant? I was in awe. The hopkins play is cut and dry. The heel was NOT down. Let's pretend it was though. Move to the two plays suuma is referring to. Watching the game LIVE, there is no question that on 3rd down the running backs knee is down short of the line YET the ball is extended visibly across the line of gain simulateneously as the knee touched. Replays show it much clearer. Ok, close call. Obrien should have challenged there. He didn't so I can live with that, i guess.....Here's the issue though: when they measured the ball, the ref showed the chains and how short they were. I'd say it was two inches.....So on 4th down, both live and replay, you mean to tell me the running back didn't gain any INCHES? None? Ultimately, after the spot where players were hovered around the chains, what angle do they show the public? They show the angle where the ball is on the other side of the chain marker. Interesting..... Along with that, both announcers say first down and gruden is flipping out. On all the replays, he not only crosses the line of scrimmage, he extends the ball past the first down which, is farther than the two inches the Texans needed. So they spot the ball and then then review it. The fact that they reviewed it, gave no explanation and said to us and the Texans he LOST inches....again, it's clear what was going on there. You can't argue it. It's not like the Michigan Ohio state game where you can argue the spot. Ultimately, The spots in Mexico city were horrid and it was embarrassing. No doubt about it. How can one question that?! Nycgags, a spade is a spade. How that transfers to o resent day and future? Well Oakland has gotten a ton of calls this year and to say they've won some of their games without the help of refs is crazy. Tonite, with all that being said, I could see the raiders taking this one.....
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:06 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by Nycgags:


    It was a joke, sorry you are humorless.  I like the Raiders, I hope they move to Vegas, I despise their current fan base since they are arrogant punks such as yourself.


    It wasnt a joke......and i have a sense of humor, i been laughing at all you kc fans all week........i been a fan since i could remember, im not a bandwagon fa, but thanks
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    It was a joke, sorry you are humorless.  I like the Raiders, I hope they move to Vegas, I despise their current fan base since they are arrogant punks such as yourself.


    It wasnt a joke......and i have a sense of humor, i been laughing at all you kc fans all week........i been a fan since i could remember, im not a bandwagon fa, but thanks
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 12:07 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by CajunWF:



    I can't take left-wing nutjobs seriously.  Grow up, kid.  No one cares about your political correctness.  Go read FBI crime statistics.  Stereotypes exist for a reason. 

    As for football - KC rolls tonight.



    Hey retard, for the record, i voted for trump,  not everybody in cali is a liberal or a democrat,  fine to have opinions about illegals, but why bring it up in a sports forum?  So go fuk yourself 
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    I can't take left-wing nutjobs seriously.  Grow up, kid.  No one cares about your political correctness.  Go read FBI crime statistics.  Stereotypes exist for a reason. 

    As for football - KC rolls tonight.



    Hey retard, for the record, i voted for trump,  not everybody in cali is a liberal or a democrat,  fine to have opinions about illegals, but why bring it up in a sports forum?  So go fuk yourself 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 7:11 PM ET #55

    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Who said anything about fixed. Favorable calls is what I am hinting at. And if you don't believe me, take time to take your head out of you anus and watch the Texans Raiders game again.


    They were in Mexico at a renovated stadium. There might've been little mishaps that made officiating have really bad calls.

    This is a big game. I'm on Kansas City. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    Who said anything about fixed. Favorable calls is what I am hinting at. And if you don't believe me, take time to take your head out of you anus and watch the Texans Raiders game again.


    They were in Mexico at a renovated stadium. There might've been little mishaps that made officiating have really bad calls.

    This is a big game. I'm on Kansas City. 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2016 - 7:25 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by Nycgags:


    It was a joke, sorry you are humorless.  I like the Raiders, I hope they move to Vegas, I despise their current fan base since they are arrogant punks such as yourself.

    i know this is irrelevant to this comment but you pwned summa and i also hope raiders make the move to vegas...im gonna get my season tix as soon as it happens...if it happens 
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    It was a joke, sorry you are humorless.  I like the Raiders, I hope they move to Vegas, I despise their current fan base since they are arrogant punks such as yourself.

    i know this is irrelevant to this comment but you pwned summa and i also hope raiders make the move to vegas...im gonna get my season tix as soon as it happens...if it happens 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 12:30 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderNation925:



    It wasnt a joke......and i have a sense of humor, i been laughing at all you kc fans all week........i been a fan since i could remember, im not a bandwagon fa, but thanks

    I'm laughing all the way to the bank.
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    It wasnt a joke......and i have a sense of humor, i been laughing at all you kc fans all week........i been a fan since i could remember, im not a bandwagon fa, but thanks

    I'm laughing all the way to the bank.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 12:31 AM ET #59

    Quote Originally Posted by Raider_Love:


    i know this is irrelevant to this comment but you pwned summa and i also hope raiders make the move to vegas...im gonna get my season tix as soon as it happens...if it happens 

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    i know this is irrelevant to this comment but you pwned summa and i also hope raiders make the move to vegas...im gonna get my season tix as soon as it happens...if it happens 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raider_Love:


    i know this is irrelevant to this comment but you pwned summa and i also hope raiders make the move to vegas...im gonna get my season tix as soon as it happens...if it happens 


    I've spent several comments explaining how bad the KC offense is and they came up with 14 points & 2 turnovers at home on prime time against the mighty Raiders defense. He explained how the Chiefs would have a rushing advantage because of the discrepancy in rushing fantasy points this season. The result was that the Raiders outgained them heavily on the ground.

    I was just wrong on the Raiders offense. And they still made all of you KC bettors sweat when Carr missed an open Jalen Richard for an easy TD because the KC offense couldn't put this game on ice.

    And btw, I won my OAK teaser leg. Oh man did I get pwned, I won't sleep tonight.
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    i know this is irrelevant to this comment but you pwned summa and i also hope raiders make the move to vegas...im gonna get my season tix as soon as it happens...if it happens 


    I've spent several comments explaining how bad the KC offense is and they came up with 14 points & 2 turnovers at home on prime time against the mighty Raiders defense. He explained how the Chiefs would have a rushing advantage because of the discrepancy in rushing fantasy points this season. The result was that the Raiders outgained them heavily on the ground.

    I was just wrong on the Raiders offense. And they still made all of you KC bettors sweat when Carr missed an open Jalen Richard for an easy TD because the KC offense couldn't put this game on ice.

    And btw, I won my OAK teaser leg. Oh man did I get pwned, I won't sleep tonight.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 9, 2016 - 8:41 AM ET #61

    I'm amazed at this board...guys but a lot of time and effort into sharing their reasoning, and people come out of the woodwork to...well, it seems people are actively rooting against each other. What the darn is wrong with you people? The book is your enemy, laugh at the book.
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    I'm amazed at this board...guys but a lot of time and effort into sharing their reasoning, and people come out of the woodwork to...well, it seems people are actively rooting against each other. What the darn is wrong with you people? The book is your enemy, laugh at the book.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiderNation925:

    Hey retard, for the record, i voted for trump,  not everybody in cali is a liberal or a democrat,  fine to have opinions about illegals, but why bring it up in a sports forum?  So go fuk yourself 



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    Hey retard, for the record, i voted for trump,  not everybody in cali is a liberal or a democrat,  fine to have opinions about illegals, but why bring it up in a sports forum?  So go fuk yourself 



     
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    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:



    I've spent several comments explaining how bad the KC offense is and they came up with 14 points & 2 turnovers at home on prime time against the mighty Raiders defense. He explained how the Chiefs would have a rushing advantage because of the discrepancy in rushing fantasy points this season. The result was that the Raiders outgained them heavily on the ground.

    I was just wrong on the Raiders offense. And they still made all of you KC bettors sweat when Carr missed an open Jalen Richard for an easy TD because the KC offense couldn't put this game on ice.

    And btw, I won my OAK teaser leg. Oh man did I get pwned, I won't sleep tonight.

    Hey buddy, 
    I have not checked this thread in a while. Sorry I missed all the back and forth. But maybe with the characters in this forum, I should not be...sorry. 

    The Raiders won the turnover battle 3:0 (that is huge) and got more first downs and won time of possession but lost the game because of two big plays, some dropped balls and a couple of bad penalties. 9 out of 10 times they win or cover that game. Andy Reid and his fat a s s sat on his lead as predicted because he does not have the balls for games like that and Alex Smith turned into Alex Smith in the 2nd half as predicted while the young, stupid cocky Raiders kept coming despite being in a big hole (down 3-21) in a hostile environment where most teams would have caved, and KC backers were ready to tear up their tickets on that final drive and yet here they are...LOL 

    Good luck this weekend.
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    I've spent several comments explaining how bad the KC offense is and they came up with 14 points & 2 turnovers at home on prime time against the mighty Raiders defense. He explained how the Chiefs would have a rushing advantage because of the discrepancy in rushing fantasy points this season. The result was that the Raiders outgained them heavily on the ground.

    I was just wrong on the Raiders offense. And they still made all of you KC bettors sweat when Carr missed an open Jalen Richard for an easy TD because the KC offense couldn't put this game on ice.

    And btw, I won my OAK teaser leg. Oh man did I get pwned, I won't sleep tonight.

    Hey buddy, 
    I have not checked this thread in a while. Sorry I missed all the back and forth. But maybe with the characters in this forum, I should not be...sorry. 

    The Raiders won the turnover battle 3:0 (that is huge) and got more first downs and won time of possession but lost the game because of two big plays, some dropped balls and a couple of bad penalties. 9 out of 10 times they win or cover that game. Andy Reid and his fat a s s sat on his lead as predicted because he does not have the balls for games like that and Alex Smith turned into Alex Smith in the 2nd half as predicted while the young, stupid cocky Raiders kept coming despite being in a big hole (down 3-21) in a hostile environment where most teams would have caved, and KC backers were ready to tear up their tickets on that final drive and yet here they are...LOL 

    Good luck this weekend.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    With a down year in ratings, the Raiders and Cowboys are two of the few bright spots the league has going for it: KC? Not so much. So that is certainly and angle to keep in mind.

    The Play

    Raiders +3



    Another clown that can't face reality.
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    With a down year in ratings, the Raiders and Cowboys are two of the few bright spots the league has going for it: KC? Not so much. So that is certainly and angle to keep in mind.

    The Play

    Raiders +3



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