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    suuma
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2016 - 12:27 PM ET #51

    Let's dive into the metrics. It's still not a great sample size, but here are some key facts:

    DET D ranks 32nd in DVOA, 32nd vs. the pass & 31st vs. the run

    DET D is also 32nd in pts/drive, 31st in pts/drive, 30th in drive success rate

    ...while playing IND, TEN, GB & CHI.

    It's also Jim Schwartz' personal Super Bowl after he got fired in Detroit. He was up at night two weeks preparing for this game.


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    Let's dive into the metrics. It's still not a great sample size, but here are some key facts:

    DET D ranks 32nd in DVOA, 32nd vs. the pass & 31st vs. the run

    DET D is also 32nd in pts/drive, 31st in pts/drive, 30th in drive success rate

    ...while playing IND, TEN, GB & CHI.

    It's also Jim Schwartz' personal Super Bowl after he got fired in Detroit. He was up at night two weeks preparing for this game.


     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2016 - 1:49 PM ET #52

    How do you think Jameis does against the Panthers D on MNF this week, Suuma?
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    How do you think Jameis does against the Panthers D on MNF this week, Suuma?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2016 - 5:07 PM ET #53

    May want to rethink the SD play...Verrett has partially torn ACL, out for season.  Another devastating blow for them...can't believe the injury luck they are having two years in a row now.  Time for a new trainer maybe, ha.
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    May want to rethink the SD play...Verrett has partially torn ACL, out for season.  Another devastating blow for them...can't believe the injury luck they are having two years in a row now.  Time for a new trainer maybe, ha.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2016 - 6:41 PM ET #54

    Like the Eagles as well.
    GL this week Suuma.
    R.I.P. Legend
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    Like the Eagles as well.
    GL this week Suuma.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2016 - 7:20 PM ET #55

    The query on sportsdatabase for a team playing as a home favorite on Sunday whose next game is on a Thursday (Denver) is this:

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF 

    which gives a result of 69-90 ATS.

    If the game is being played before week 7 the results have been 5-22 ATS.

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF and week<7

    If our team is a non-divisional home favorite  the results have been 4-16 ATS.

    I originally liked Denver a great deal....now may make them a no-play.

    Good fortune in making your plays this week.
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    The query on sportsdatabase for a team playing as a home favorite on Sunday whose next game is on a Thursday (Denver) is this:

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF 

    which gives a result of 69-90 ATS.

    If the game is being played before week 7 the results have been 5-22 ATS.

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF and week<7

    If our team is a non-divisional home favorite  the results have been 4-16 ATS.

    I originally liked Denver a great deal....now may make them a no-play.

    Good fortune in making your plays this week.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2016 - 10:04 PM ET #56

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrill:

    May want to rethink the SD play...Verrett has partially torn ACL, out for season.  Another devastating blow for them...can't believe the injury luck they are having two years in a row now.  Time for a new trainer maybe, ha.

    Unbelievable how one team gets hurt so much. Addae is out w/ a concussion, Flowers questionable w/ a concussion...this secondary is ravaged. They also lost Taeo. And that's just on the defensive side.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrill:

    May want to rethink the SD play...Verrett has partially torn ACL, out for season.  Another devastating blow for them...can't believe the injury luck they are having two years in a row now.  Time for a new trainer maybe, ha.

    Unbelievable how one team gets hurt so much. Addae is out w/ a concussion, Flowers questionable w/ a concussion...this secondary is ravaged. They also lost Taeo. And that's just on the defensive side.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2016 - 10:11 PM ET #57

    alot of love for the Eagles... will pass on that

    love the chargers play though! 
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    alot of love for the Eagles... will pass on that

    love the chargers play though! 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2016 - 2:23 AM ET #58

    HI Suuma What are your thoughts on Giants covering the 7 1/2 against Packers?
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    HI Suuma What are your thoughts on Giants covering the 7 1/2 against Packers?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2016 - 11:23 AM ET #59

    SF TT Under 19.5 -110

    Personally, I think this is 2.5 points too high and I would have played it at 17. Cardinals are 1-3 yes, but they still have a good defense. The reason they are 1-3 is more about facing two good defenses (NE, LA) with Palmer’s arm declining and a terrible spot, playing at BUF in Rex Ryan’s Super Bowl. This is an all in game for ARI and with Bowman out, they are probably going to pound the rock a lot more. Zeke had awfully huge running lanes after Bowman went out.  More running means less opportunities for SF. SF offense is TERRIBLE. They scored more than 19.5 in two games so far. Against the Rams they got 7 first downs alone by penalty and the Rams weren’t able to do anything on offense. Rams still held the Niners to 4.2 yards per play which would rank dead-last in the league-wide table. At Carolina, SF scored 13 points off drive starts at CAR’s 22, 17 and 1-yard lines. Those weren’t average situations, we always have to cap a team’s performance to average standards, because we want to eliminate random effects as far as we can. The Niners won’t score many points if they get an average drive start: they rank 31st in yards/drive and 29th in drive success rate. Their slightly below average pts/drive rate of 1.78 tells you they live off short fields to get anything going. The Cardinals defense is good and Chip Kelly has an history of struggling against good defenses. He got shut down by those defenses in the past such as Stanford, SF (under Harbaugh), Seattle. Gabbert isn’t a starting caliber QB and he will struggle mightily again vs. he Cardinals who have their season on the line. Would be shocked to see the Niners scoring 17 or more.

     

    BAL -4 -110

    Made this line a -4 for Ravens on a neutral field. The Redskins are complete trash. They played 3 of their first 4 at home, barely won at New York and won late vs the worst team in the league talent-wise. In fact, Giants outgained the Skins by 1.6 yards per play and the Browns had a lead going into the 4th quarter. Sample size is just 4, but the Skins offense ranks #11 in total DVOA after playing defenses ranked #18, #23, #21 & #25. The Ravens rank 4th and they have the best run defense so far. They didn’t play a tough schedule either, but their performances are stellar. They gave up 14 points to OAK on drives of 29 and 7 yards. They rank 1st in yds/drive and 4th in drive success rate. Unlike Cleveland, Ravens will be able to shut down the run game and put the QB with the worst cost-benefit ratio in the NFL (after Assweiler) into difficult passing situations. Kirk Cousins is just awful, he consistently over- and underthrows his receivers. They saved him a lot last week. I truly expect Cousins to throw 2-3 picks in this game. The Ravens offense isn’t something to be afraid of, but with Ronnie Stanley coming back (“good shot”), Flacco should have more time this week. Also I expect their running game to go off on a terrible Redskins run defense. Seeing this game as a 27-13 kind of game in favor of Baltimore.

     

    GB O47.5 -110

    This game should fly into the 50s. Both teams have shown some really good run defense but neither can effectively run the ball on the offensive side. I expect this to be a game with a lot of passes with GB coming out to set the tone and Giants trying to keep hanging on. Only way for both teams to score is through the air and I think we will see a lot of scores.
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    SF TT Under 19.5 -110

    Personally, I think this is 2.5 points too high and I would have played it at 17. Cardinals are 1-3 yes, but they still have a good defense. The reason they are 1-3 is more about facing two good defenses (NE, LA) with Palmer’s arm declining and a terrible spot, playing at BUF in Rex Ryan’s Super Bowl. This is an all in game for ARI and with Bowman out, they are probably going to pound the rock a lot more. Zeke had awfully huge running lanes after Bowman went out.  More running means less opportunities for SF. SF offense is TERRIBLE. They scored more than 19.5 in two games so far. Against the Rams they got 7 first downs alone by penalty and the Rams weren’t able to do anything on offense. Rams still held the Niners to 4.2 yards per play which would rank dead-last in the league-wide table. At Carolina, SF scored 13 points off drive starts at CAR’s 22, 17 and 1-yard lines. Those weren’t average situations, we always have to cap a team’s performance to average standards, because we want to eliminate random effects as far as we can. The Niners won’t score many points if they get an average drive start: they rank 31st in yards/drive and 29th in drive success rate. Their slightly below average pts/drive rate of 1.78 tells you they live off short fields to get anything going. The Cardinals defense is good and Chip Kelly has an history of struggling against good defenses. He got shut down by those defenses in the past such as Stanford, SF (under Harbaugh), Seattle. Gabbert isn’t a starting caliber QB and he will struggle mightily again vs. he Cardinals who have their season on the line. Would be shocked to see the Niners scoring 17 or more.

     

    BAL -4 -110

    Made this line a -4 for Ravens on a neutral field. The Redskins are complete trash. They played 3 of their first 4 at home, barely won at New York and won late vs the worst team in the league talent-wise. In fact, Giants outgained the Skins by 1.6 yards per play and the Browns had a lead going into the 4th quarter. Sample size is just 4, but the Skins offense ranks #11 in total DVOA after playing defenses ranked #18, #23, #21 & #25. The Ravens rank 4th and they have the best run defense so far. They didn’t play a tough schedule either, but their performances are stellar. They gave up 14 points to OAK on drives of 29 and 7 yards. They rank 1st in yds/drive and 4th in drive success rate. Unlike Cleveland, Ravens will be able to shut down the run game and put the QB with the worst cost-benefit ratio in the NFL (after Assweiler) into difficult passing situations. Kirk Cousins is just awful, he consistently over- and underthrows his receivers. They saved him a lot last week. I truly expect Cousins to throw 2-3 picks in this game. The Ravens offense isn’t something to be afraid of, but with Ronnie Stanley coming back (“good shot”), Flacco should have more time this week. Also I expect their running game to go off on a terrible Redskins run defense. Seeing this game as a 27-13 kind of game in favor of Baltimore.

     

    GB O47.5 -110

    This game should fly into the 50s. Both teams have shown some really good run defense but neither can effectively run the ball on the offensive side. I expect this to be a game with a lot of passes with GB coming out to set the tone and Giants trying to keep hanging on. Only way for both teams to score is through the air and I think we will see a lot of scores.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2016 - 11:25 AM ET #60

    SF TT Under 19.5 -110
    PHI -3 -105
    DEN U48 -115
    SD +4 -110
    BAL -4 -110
    GB O47.5 -110

    Card pretty much set. Just eyeing 1-2 more. Following SD injury report, might buy off of the pick.
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    SF TT Under 19.5 -110
    PHI -3 -105
    DEN U48 -115
    SD +4 -110
    BAL -4 -110
    GB O47.5 -110

    Card pretty much set. Just eyeing 1-2 more. Following SD injury report, might buy off of the pick.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2016 - 11:27 AM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    The query on sportsdatabase for a team playing as a home favorite on Sunday whose next game is on a Thursday (Denver) is this:

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF 

    which gives a result of 69-90 ATS.

    If the game is being played before week 7 the results have been 5-22 ATS.

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF and week<7

    If our team is a non-divisional home favorite  the results have been 4-16 ATS.

    I originally liked Denver a great deal....now may make them a no-play.

    Good fortune in making your plays this week.


    Now that's a trend! BOL this week!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    The query on sportsdatabase for a team playing as a home favorite on Sunday whose next game is on a Thursday (Denver) is this:

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF 

    which gives a result of 69-90 ATS.

    If the game is being played before week 7 the results have been 5-22 ATS.

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF and week<7

    If our team is a non-divisional home favorite  the results have been 4-16 ATS.

    I originally liked Denver a great deal....now may make them a no-play.

    Good fortune in making your plays this week.


    Now that's a trend! BOL this week!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2016 - 11:30 AM ET #62

    Quote Originally Posted by FlamingoBarnes:

    How do you think Jameis does against the Panthers D on MNF this week, Suuma?


    If Derek Anderson plays and the line opens around -3ish, I am going to play the Panthers. If Cam Newton plays, I prefer the over. Jameis has some serious decision-making problems, he is currently blacklisted for me. TB WRs vs. CAR's CBs is a good mismatch though that's why I like the over with Cam playing.
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    How do you think Jameis does against the Panthers D on MNF this week, Suuma?


    If Derek Anderson plays and the line opens around -3ish, I am going to play the Panthers. If Cam Newton plays, I prefer the over. Jameis has some serious decision-making problems, he is currently blacklisted for me. TB WRs vs. CAR's CBs is a good mismatch though that's why I like the over with Cam playing.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2016 - 2:11 PM ET #63

    BOL bro 
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    Posted: Oct. 6, 2016 - 2:28 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by Mrfixers:

    NO WAY am i walking into sucker bet eagles open spread was 2 1/2

    after a thrashinjg of the Steelers 34- 3 what???

    so now on the road you think that line represents eagles at home would be a TD favorite over the LIONS.

    LET me open your eyes fast guys Eagles were a 3 point dog at home they were selected that line because the odds makers seen eagles havent beaten anybody really playoff caliber type teams

    Browns who hung with eagles for 3 and 1/4  quaters who blew up in 4th quater IT was a 3 point game that eagles were looking very bleak in .

    Then RG 3 got knocked out and Browns got smeared

    OK now birds go on road vs not so good bears team anymore who were winless....


    GET a clue quick this Lions team aint NO where as bad as the Browns and I see Eagles going 3-1 this week because every sqaure only sees eagles last blow out win 34-3 domination at home

    atypical knee jerk reaction oooooo they are rested now and more prepared and scahwrtz knows his former team etc.... blah blah blah ..


    Well HE aint the haed coach here that HC returning to his former team thing only works IF he his HC of new team.

    Sure as chit didnt work with two former HC Vs Bears when lovie smith went back after two years removed and Former Vikes HC Frazier ran the defense of TB with that numb nuts QB they had and bunch of losers on roster.

    Bears smacked them around like the bad team they have been past 8 years ever since Gruden left them a shambles.


    THE Tampa TWO days are gone the defense they once had is gone.

    and there is NOT many house hold names on TB anymore.

    LIONS on The ML for me +120




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    NO WAY am i walking into sucker bet eagles open spread was 2 1/2

    after a thrashinjg of the Steelers 34- 3 what???

    so now on the road you think that line represents eagles at home would be a TD favorite over the LIONS.

    LET me open your eyes fast guys Eagles were a 3 point dog at home they were selected that line because the odds makers seen eagles havent beaten anybody really playoff caliber type teams

    Browns who hung with eagles for 3 and 1/4  quaters who blew up in 4th quater IT was a 3 point game that eagles were looking very bleak in .

    Then RG 3 got knocked out and Browns got smeared

    OK now birds go on road vs not so good bears team anymore who were winless....


    GET a clue quick this Lions team aint NO where as bad as the Browns and I see Eagles going 3-1 this week because every sqaure only sees eagles last blow out win 34-3 domination at home

    atypical knee jerk reaction oooooo they are rested now and more prepared and scahwrtz knows his former team etc.... blah blah blah ..


    Well HE aint the haed coach here that HC returning to his former team thing only works IF he his HC of new team.

    Sure as chit didnt work with two former HC Vs Bears when lovie smith went back after two years removed and Former Vikes HC Frazier ran the defense of TB with that numb nuts QB they had and bunch of losers on roster.

    Bears smacked them around like the bad team they have been past 8 years ever since Gruden left them a shambles.


    THE Tampa TWO days are gone the defense they once had is gone.

    and there is NOT many house hold names on TB anymore.

    LIONS on The ML for me +120




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    No matter how I look at it the Eagles pick is so square it is almost turning into a rectangle play.
    Going the other way on this one.
    Lions will win SU.
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    Going the other way on this one.
    Lions will win SU.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pho-20:


    "If you like lions so much create your own thread" . . 

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    "If you like lions so much create your own thread" . . 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2016 - 11:40 AM ET #67

    Joined you on the 9ers under 19.5...brutal PI call on that 4th down in the EZ that allowed them to go over.  Honey Badger didn't even touch Kerley, pathetic.  

    Get 'em Sunday!
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    Joined you on the 9ers under 19.5...brutal PI call on that 4th down in the EZ that allowed them to go over.  Honey Badger didn't even touch Kerley, pathetic.  

    Get 'em Sunday!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2016 - 1:13 PM ET #68

    Quote Originally Posted by fadeORdie:

    No matter how I look at it the Eagles pick is so square it is almost turning into a rectangle play.
    Going the other way on this one.
    Lions will win SU.


    Good luck Fade, one of us will win
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    No matter how I look at it the Eagles pick is so square it is almost turning into a rectangle play.
    Going the other way on this one.
    Lions will win SU.


    Good luck Fade, one of us will win
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDrill:

    Joined you on the 9ers under 19.5...brutal PI call on that 4th down in the EZ that allowed them to go over.  Honey Badger didn't even touch Kerley, pathetic.  

    Get 'em Sunday!


    Yeah brutal, but that happens and will even out in the long run.

    But I'd rather lose a game this way than being completely off.

    BOL this week!
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    Joined you on the 9ers under 19.5...brutal PI call on that 4th down in the EZ that allowed them to go over.  Honey Badger didn't even touch Kerley, pathetic.  

    Get 'em Sunday!


    Yeah brutal, but that happens and will even out in the long run.

    But I'd rather lose a game this way than being completely off.

    BOL this week!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2016 - 2:04 PM ET #70

    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:

    Quote Originally Posted by FlamingoBarnes:

    How do you think Jameis does against the Panthers D on MNF this week, Suuma?
    If Derek Anderson plays and the line opens around -3ish, I am going to play the Panthers. If Cam Newton plays, I prefer the over. Jameis has some serious decision-making problems, he is currently blacklisted for me. TB WRs vs. CAR's CBs is a good mismatch though that's why I like the over with Cam playing.


    This was more of a question about jameis than the Bucs as a whole. Jameis laid eggs against Arizona and Denver, the #1 and #2 team for sacks so far. I think jameis finds success against Carolinas suspect pass rush and secondary. This being a must win game for carolina does concern me some though.

    Thanks for the insight, it's appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlamingoBarnes:

    How do you think Jameis does against the Panthers D on MNF this week, Suuma?
    If Derek Anderson plays and the line opens around -3ish, I am going to play the Panthers. If Cam Newton plays, I prefer the over. Jameis has some serious decision-making problems, he is currently blacklisted for me. TB WRs vs. CAR's CBs is a good mismatch though that's why I like the over with Cam playing.


    This was more of a question about jameis than the Bucs as a whole. Jameis laid eggs against Arizona and Denver, the #1 and #2 team for sacks so far. I think jameis finds success against Carolinas suspect pass rush and secondary. This being a must win game for carolina does concern me some though.

    Thanks for the insight, it's appreciated.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 7, 2016 - 3:26 PM ET #71

    Teams losing at home last week and now on road to a division rival are 5-2 ATS, 7-0 OVER so far this year........in the long-term, teams in this situation (San Diego) have been 26-13 ATS in week 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    The query on sportsdatabase for a team playing as a home favorite on Sunday whose next game is on a Thursday (Denver) is this:

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF 

    which gives a result of 69-90 ATS.

    If the game is being played before week 7 the results have been 5-22 ATS.

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF and week<7

    If our team is a non-divisional home favorite  the results have been 4-16 ATS.

    I originally liked Denver a great deal....now may make them a no-play.

    Good fortune in making your plays this week.

    Nice result of testing your sharp thesis.  Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    The query on sportsdatabase for a team playing as a home favorite on Sunday whose next game is on a Thursday (Denver) is this:

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF 

    which gives a result of 69-90 ATS.

    If the game is being played before week 7 the results have been 5-22 ATS.

    n:rest=3 and day=Sunday and HF and week<7

    If our team is a non-divisional home favorite  the results have been 4-16 ATS.

    I originally liked Denver a great deal....now may make them a no-play.

    Good fortune in making your plays this week.

    Nice result of testing your sharp thesis.  Good luck.
     
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    No Flowers No Verret for SD
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    Quote Originally Posted by KUNGJIM11:

    Don't you think when a depleted Charger team is playing Oakland on Sunday its not in their heads they play Denver in 4 days ?  it's Oakland or nothing in this game  ,\

    The other game i would never put money on Atlanta  i just couldn't trust Atlanta 
     the under is probably good unless Denver gets defensive TDS and a bunch of short fields  

    if Denver gets a big  lead they take out starters on defense and Atlanta gets a bunch of garbage  points, 

     Just like what happened in the Miami Patriots game Patriots up 33-3 they stoped playing defense 



    I'm thinking you should put this knowledge on your handicapping site for those poor ignorant fools that don't have the insight or inside information and contacts that you apparently have. We are very fortunate that you have chosen us here at Covers Forum to share this wealth of interpretative analysis, because God knows very few of us here know which way to turn in these uncertain times. And to think that you're giving these pearls of insight to us freely, when you certainly could be charging large fees for this high level of insider information makes me proud to be an American and grateful that philanthropic men like you are there for us when we need you. God bless you and God bless the USA, where we are all winners! Those who don't listen to you only have themselves to blame right!!?  
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    Don't you think when a depleted Charger team is playing Oakland on Sunday its not in their heads they play Denver in 4 days ?  it's Oakland or nothing in this game  ,\

    The other game i would never put money on Atlanta  i just couldn't trust Atlanta 
     the under is probably good unless Denver gets defensive TDS and a bunch of short fields  

    if Denver gets a big  lead they take out starters on defense and Atlanta gets a bunch of garbage  points, 

     Just like what happened in the Miami Patriots game Patriots up 33-3 they stoped playing defense 



    I'm thinking you should put this knowledge on your handicapping site for those poor ignorant fools that don't have the insight or inside information and contacts that you apparently have. We are very fortunate that you have chosen us here at Covers Forum to share this wealth of interpretative analysis, because God knows very few of us here know which way to turn in these uncertain times. And to think that you're giving these pearls of insight to us freely, when you certainly could be charging large fees for this high level of insider information makes me proud to be an American and grateful that philanthropic men like you are there for us when we need you. God bless you and God bless the USA, where we are all winners! Those who don't listen to you only have themselves to blame right!!?  
     
     
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    Thanks for all that you share Summa!!!!!
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