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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 11:26 AM ET #1

    20-15 +4.05u

    Went 5-2 last week, posting only on Twitter as I was on a trip to London and didn't have the time. Solid start into Football season, started 9-3 +4.88u in CFB, so 29-18 overall.

    On to week five..


    PHI -3 -105

    Some will say this line is too high considering it would be more than a TD for PHI at home. But this team is the real deal and I see them winning this game by more than a FG at Detroit. Philly is on two weeks rest and Schwartz had these two weeks to prepare for his old QB. Phillys’ wide-9 causes havoc for most OLs this year and Schwartz can let 7 players drop into coverage. DET’s OL will be overmatched by PHI’s front four. Against GB, Stafford was able to exploit a soft secondary in the "all in mode" because GB was blitzing a lot, but not this time. DET’s defense has been a bottom-5 one so far, and Wentz & company should be able to put points on the board. Won’t be another blowout, but I see an easy Eagles win.

     

    DEN U48 -115

    I think this total is too high. Denver is the first real passing defense the Falcons are facing. Unlike the Panthers, the Broncos have a good secondary that can play man and will successfully double-team Julio Jones. Successfully means that he won’t have another crazy fantasy-esque week. Against the Broncos, the Falcons will rely heavily on their OL with short passes and the running game as the Broncos haven't been good at defending the run. Kyle Shanahan won’t give them many opportunities to create turnovers. Short passes & runs = tick tack. On the other side the Broncos will probably run a lot against a soft front seven. If you discount the 14 defensive points vs. the Colts, no game has gone over 46 total. You can't expect the Broncos to put up 30 points without defensive help. Seeing this as a 21-17/23-20 type of game.

     

    SD +4 -110

    One team is 1-3, the other one is 3-1. The 1-3 team blew 3 huge 4Q-leads, the 3-1 team needed 2 4Q-comebacks. SD could be 4-0, OAK could be 1-3. That’s Football, where nuances can decide games. I still have SD as the better team and gladly grab 4 points with them in a game they absolutely have to win. They will go all in, because their season will be literally over after a loss. OAK might be a little bit sloppy after B2B east games and of that 4Q-stunner (they were after that week one miracle). Raiders needed starts deep in Ravens territory to score their points, it was more of a Ravens fail than an actual good performance by Oakland. SD defense is underrated whereas Rivers shouldn’t struggle moving the ball on Oakland. Think about that: SD would have covered or pushed a +4 spread after 60 minutes in all four games.

    More throughout the week. BOL to all!
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    20-15 +4.05u

    Went 5-2 last week, posting only on Twitter as I was on a trip to London and didn't have the time. Solid start into Football season, started 9-3 +4.88u in CFB, so 29-18 overall.

    On to week five..


    PHI -3 -105

    Some will say this line is too high considering it would be more than a TD for PHI at home. But this team is the real deal and I see them winning this game by more than a FG at Detroit. Philly is on two weeks rest and Schwartz had these two weeks to prepare for his old QB. Phillys’ wide-9 causes havoc for most OLs this year and Schwartz can let 7 players drop into coverage. DET’s OL will be overmatched by PHI’s front four. Against GB, Stafford was able to exploit a soft secondary in the "all in mode" because GB was blitzing a lot, but not this time. DET’s defense has been a bottom-5 one so far, and Wentz & company should be able to put points on the board. Won’t be another blowout, but I see an easy Eagles win.

     

    DEN U48 -115

    I think this total is too high. Denver is the first real passing defense the Falcons are facing. Unlike the Panthers, the Broncos have a good secondary that can play man and will successfully double-team Julio Jones. Successfully means that he won’t have another crazy fantasy-esque week. Against the Broncos, the Falcons will rely heavily on their OL with short passes and the running game as the Broncos haven't been good at defending the run. Kyle Shanahan won’t give them many opportunities to create turnovers. Short passes & runs = tick tack. On the other side the Broncos will probably run a lot against a soft front seven. If you discount the 14 defensive points vs. the Colts, no game has gone over 46 total. You can't expect the Broncos to put up 30 points without defensive help. Seeing this as a 21-17/23-20 type of game.

     

    SD +4 -110

    One team is 1-3, the other one is 3-1. The 1-3 team blew 3 huge 4Q-leads, the 3-1 team needed 2 4Q-comebacks. SD could be 4-0, OAK could be 1-3. That’s Football, where nuances can decide games. I still have SD as the better team and gladly grab 4 points with them in a game they absolutely have to win. They will go all in, because their season will be literally over after a loss. OAK might be a little bit sloppy after B2B east games and of that 4Q-stunner (they were after that week one miracle). Raiders needed starts deep in Ravens territory to score their points, it was more of a Ravens fail than an actual good performance by Oakland. SD defense is underrated whereas Rivers shouldn’t struggle moving the ball on Oakland. Think about that: SD would have covered or pushed a +4 spread after 60 minutes in all four games.

    More throughout the week. BOL to all!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 11:30 AM ET #2

    Besides my big pick on the Bengals pick'em this week, the Eagles at -2.5 and SD at +4 are the two I added as part of a 3-team parlay.

    GL to us.
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    Besides my big pick on the Bengals pick'em this week, the Eagles at -2.5 and SD at +4 are the two I added as part of a 3-team parlay.

    GL to us.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 11:43 AM ET #3

    I like all 3 plays! 

    Lets see how many INT's Stafford throws against that Eagles coverage
    Phillip Rivers is a Raider-killer 

    Sip on that plus money honey!
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    I like all 3 plays! 

    Lets see how many INT's Stafford throws against that Eagles coverage
    Phillip Rivers is a Raider-killer 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 11:46 AM ET #4

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    I got it....London, understandably

     

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    I got it....London, understandably

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 11:50 AM ET #5

    Suuma, you might've talked me into betting Eagles and the under for broncos game. Not in on the patriots? 

    BOL 

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    Suuma, you might've talked me into betting Eagles and the under for broncos game. Not in on the patriots? 

    BOL 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 11:54 AM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    suuma

    I got it....London, understandably

     



    The experience at Wembley was great once again, but it was terrible watching these two teams. Luck is completely lost behind this OL and coaching staff. This play-calling might be the worst of the league. Even is receivers weren't reliabel - when he made accurate throws under pressure, those guys dropped it.

    Blake Bortles once again showed poor ball placement against a weak defense. This guy is awful.
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    suuma

    I got it....London, understandably

     



    The experience at Wembley was great once again, but it was terrible watching these two teams. Luck is completely lost behind this OL and coaching staff. This play-calling might be the worst of the league. Even is receivers weren't reliabel - when he made accurate throws under pressure, those guys dropped it.

    Blake Bortles once again showed poor ball placement against a weak defense. This guy is awful.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 11:56 AM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by cuckoomike:

    Suuma, you might've talked me into betting Eagles and the under for broncos game. Not in on the patriots? 

    BOL 



    -10.5 on the road against a team that has nothing to lose? Never. This game has backdoor cover written all over it. BOL this week!
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    Suuma, you might've talked me into betting Eagles and the under for broncos game. Not in on the patriots? 

    BOL 



    -10.5 on the road against a team that has nothing to lose? Never. This game has backdoor cover written all over it. BOL this week!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 12:05 PM ET #8

    Your taking Denver and San diego both teams are playing in 4 days on Thursday night  so far this year that gets you  2 -4 ATS 


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    Your taking Denver and San diego both teams are playing in 4 days on Thursday night  so far this year that gets you  2 -4 ATS 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KUNGJIM11:

    Your taking Denver and San diego both teams are playing in 4 days on Thursday night  so far this year that gets you  2 -4 ATS 




    ATS: 154-156-9 since 1989
    ATS: 111-127-4 since 2000
    ATS: 70-78-4 since 2010

    Not really something to worry about. I can ignore trends between 46% and 54%.

    Thanks regardless!
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    Quote Originally Posted by KUNGJIM11:

    Your taking Denver and San diego both teams are playing in 4 days on Thursday night  so far this year that gets you  2 -4 ATS 




    ATS: 154-156-9 since 1989
    ATS: 111-127-4 since 2000
    ATS: 70-78-4 since 2010

    Not really something to worry about. I can ignore trends between 46% and 54%.

    Thanks regardless!
     
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    Welcome back, Summa.  Always a fine read and good analysis.  I can't argue with any of the picks.  I personally don't play totals, but like your Denver <48, especially with the Den QB situation up in the air and their very stout D.
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    Welcome back, Summa.  Always a fine read and good analysis.  I can't argue with any of the picks.  I personally don't play totals, but like your Denver <48, especially with the Den QB situation up in the air and their very stout D.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:



    ATS: 154-156-9 since 1989
    ATS: 111-127-4 since 2000
    ATS: 70-78-4 since 2010

    Not really something to worry about. I can ignore trends between 46% and 54%.

    Thanks regardless!


         don't know what stats your giving but Thurday night football started in 2006 
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    ATS: 154-156-9 since 1989
    ATS: 111-127-4 since 2000
    ATS: 70-78-4 since 2010

    Not really something to worry about. I can ignore trends between 46% and 54%.

    Thanks regardless!


         don't know what stats your giving but Thurday night football started in 2006 
     
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    Nobody pays attention or keeps these stats  teams playing on Sunday that have to play the Thursday night game in 4 days often lose SU or ATS ..

    To make plays on both teams that will be playing the Thurday night game  don't usually work well 

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    Nobody pays attention or keeps these stats  teams playing on Sunday that have to play the Thursday night game in 4 days often lose SU or ATS ..

    To make plays on both teams that will be playing the Thurday night game  don't usually work well 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KUNGJIM11:



         don't know what stats your giving but Thurday night football started in 2006 


    "Thursday Night Football" started in 2006, but there were 62 Thursday games between 1989 and 2006.
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         don't know what stats your giving but Thurday night football started in 2006 


    "Thursday Night Football" started in 2006, but there were 62 Thursday games between 1989 and 2006.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by KUNGJIM11:

    Nobody pays attention or keeps these stats  teams playing on Sunday that have to play the Thursday night game in 4 days often lose SU or ATS ..

    To make plays on both teams that will be playing the Thurday night game  don't usually work well 



    The record for teams playing their next game on Thursday with rest<5 since 2006:

    SU: 131-99-2
    ATS: 105-122-5

    Simple query. And by the way, I don't play on Denver. I play the total.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KUNGJIM11:

    Nobody pays attention or keeps these stats  teams playing on Sunday that have to play the Thursday night game in 4 days often lose SU or ATS ..

    To make plays on both teams that will be playing the Thurday night game  don't usually work well 



    The record for teams playing their next game on Thursday with rest<5 since 2006:

    SU: 131-99-2
    ATS: 105-122-5

    Simple query. And by the way, I don't play on Denver. I play the total.


     
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    suuma,

    the line is now  PHI-2.5 -vs- DET

    it's being pounded in LV at all books..either this is a gift, or one would assume a so called 'trap' the Lions are terrible, the spread could easily be -6.5 what's up?

    look for a fluctuation, I can't even remotely see this line being -2.5 on game day...grab it early

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    suuma,

    the line is now  PHI-2.5 -vs- DET

    it's being pounded in LV at all books..either this is a gift, or one would assume a so called 'trap' the Lions are terrible, the spread could easily be -6.5 what's up?

    look for a fluctuation, I can't even remotely see this line being -2.5 on game day...grab it early

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by sports_Network:

    suuma,

    the line is now  PHI-2.5 -vs- DET

    it's being pounded in LV at all books..either this is a gift, or one would assume a so called 'trap' the Lions are terrible, the spread could easily be -6.5 what's up?

    look for a fluctuation, I can't even remotely see this line being -2.5 on game day...grab it early



    Sharps are pounding the +3 home dog, but I don't care. I like my edge with the line being -3. Huge sharp plays were TB, Jets (my two losers), SF & Jags last week. They went 1-3. Sharps don't go 70% on the season, public gets their wins as well.
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    suuma,

    the line is now  PHI-2.5 -vs- DET

    it's being pounded in LV at all books..either this is a gift, or one would assume a so called 'trap' the Lions are terrible, the spread could easily be -6.5 what's up?

    look for a fluctuation, I can't even remotely see this line being -2.5 on game day...grab it early



    Sharps are pounding the +3 home dog, but I don't care. I like my edge with the line being -3. Huge sharp plays were TB, Jets (my two losers), SF & Jags last week. They went 1-3. Sharps don't go 70% on the season, public gets their wins as well.
     
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    fly eagle fly
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 1:48 PM ET #18

    yea, PHI line smells fishy here (a bit like the Cincy PK); I'll prolly lock in small bets on both tho early in the week and see what develops in the coming days.
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    yea, PHI line smells fishy here (a bit like the Cincy PK); I'll prolly lock in small bets on both tho early in the week and see what develops in the coming days.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 2:20 PM ET #19

    suuma...are you not afraid that 84% is on eagles right now? and the line should be higher??? the same could be said about denver last week at tampa...kind of same situation 2.5spread and about 84% on denver but they still covered...you think the books are gonna hand out another free gift on this game as well? 
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    suuma...are you not afraid that 84% is on eagles right now? and the line should be higher??? the same could be said about denver last week at tampa...kind of same situation 2.5spread and about 84% on denver but they still covered...you think the books are gonna hand out another free gift on this game as well? 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 2:29 PM ET #20

    In Vegas at the moment, line is -3 most places but no juice
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    In Vegas at the moment, line is -3 most places but no juice
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 2:33 PM ET #21

    I just locked in Eagles -2.5
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2016 - 3:01 PM ET #22

    Like the angle on all of these...will be joining you on a few (most likely Denver Under and SD).  Good luck.  
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    Like the angle on all of these...will be joining you on a few (most likely Denver Under and SD).  Good luck.  
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by suuma:



    The record for teams playing their next game on Thursday with rest<5 since 2006:

    SU: 131-99-2
    ATS: 105-122-5

    Simple query. And by the way, I don't play on Denver. I play the total.




     O k with the  Denver game on the total  i missed that 

    But Your still not getting iwhat i'm saying you took the ATS record with 10 rest after the Thursday game  that's always an advantage 

    i'm talking about how the teams play on the Sunday before the Thursday night game there is no  query , you don't have those stats  

    knowing they have to play in 4 days teams play bad coaches coach bad  these team lose SU and ATS   

    A good example this year was the Miami pats game pats up 33-3 vs Miami patriots know their playing in 4 day they blow spread and just hold on to win game 

    We are talking the Sunday before Thursday  game not after

     i've been betting against these teams for years  and making money  if you did this the last two weeks your 4-0 


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    The record for teams playing their next game on Thursday with rest<5 since 2006:

    SU: 131-99-2
    ATS: 105-122-5

    Simple query. And by the way, I don't play on Denver. I play the total.




     O k with the  Denver game on the total  i missed that 

    But Your still not getting iwhat i'm saying you took the ATS record with 10 rest after the Thursday game  that's always an advantage 

    i'm talking about how the teams play on the Sunday before the Thursday night game there is no  query , you don't have those stats  

    knowing they have to play in 4 days teams play bad coaches coach bad  these team lose SU and ATS   

    A good example this year was the Miami pats game pats up 33-3 vs Miami patriots know their playing in 4 day they blow spread and just hold on to win game 

    We are talking the Sunday before Thursday  game not after

     i've been betting against these teams for years  and making money  if you did this the last two weeks your 4-0 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

    I like all 3 plays! 

    Lets see how many INT's Stafford throws against that Eagles coverage
    Phillip Rivers is a Raider-killer 


    Raiders won both meetings LY as dogs. Probably taking Raiders. GL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Digitalkarma:

    I like all 3 plays! 

    Lets see how many INT's Stafford throws against that Eagles coverage
    Phillip Rivers is a Raider-killer 


    Raiders won both meetings LY as dogs. Probably taking Raiders. GL
     
     
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    Don't you think when a depleted Charger team is playing Oakland on Sunday its not in their heads they play Denver in 4 days ?  it's Oakland or nothing in this game  ,\

    The other game i would never put money on Atlanta  i just couldn't trust Atlanta 
     the under is probably good unless Denver gets defensive TDS and a bunch of short fields  

    if Denver gets a big  lead they take out starters on defense and Atlanta gets a bunch of garbage  points, 

     Just like what happened in the Miami Patriots game Patriots up 33-3 they stoped playing defense 


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    Don't you think when a depleted Charger team is playing Oakland on Sunday its not in their heads they play Denver in 4 days ?  it's Oakland or nothing in this game  ,\

    The other game i would never put money on Atlanta  i just couldn't trust Atlanta 
     the under is probably good unless Denver gets defensive TDS and a bunch of short fields  

    if Denver gets a big  lead they take out starters on defense and Atlanta gets a bunch of garbage  points, 

     Just like what happened in the Miami Patriots game Patriots up 33-3 they stoped playing defense 


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