The first piece of info I looked at when sizing up this game is the fact that Peyton Manning has played 35 games as a Bronco, including play-offs. 35 times he has been the favorite at the open. In this game the odds makers made Manning a 1 to 2 point underdog at open depending on your book. The books knw Joe Public will be all over Manning, yet they still laid odds for the sharps to hammer Denver ML at plus money. This tells me right off the bat what the stance of the odds makers is. Yes, I understand they want 50/50 on the game. I get it. I just think that their opening line says a lot....
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The first piece of info I looked at when sizing up this game is the fact that Peyton Manning has played 35 games as a Bronco, including play-offs. 35 times he has been the favorite at the open. In this game the odds makers made Manning a 1 to 2 point underdog at open depending on your book. The books knw Joe Public will be all over Manning, yet they still laid odds for the sharps to hammer Denver ML at plus money. This tells me right off the bat what the stance of the odds makers is. Yes, I understand they want 50/50 on the game. I get it. I just think that their opening line says a lot....
The first piece of info I looked at when sizing up this game is the fact that Peyton Manning has played 35 games as a Bronco, including play-offs. 35 times he has been the favorite at the open. In this game the odds makers made Manning a 1 to 2 point underdog at open depending on your book. The books knw Joe Public will be all over Manning, yet they still laid odds for the sharps to hammer Denver ML at plus money. This tells me right off the bat what the stance of the odds makers is. Yes, I understand they want 50/50 on the game. I get it. I just think that their opening line says a lot....
[ . The last defense we saw like this was the 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs, whom by the way destroyed the best offense that year in the Super Bowl. Who was their QB? Brad Johson...who? Exactly my point, yet they put up 41 points in that game.
You can thow out that game. Gruden, the former Oakland coach had the Raiders play book. As one of the TB players said "we knew what they were going to do before the ball was snapped".
[ . The last defense we saw like this was the 2002 Tampa Bay Bucs, whom by the way destroyed the best offense that year in the Super Bowl. Who was their QB? Brad Johson...who? Exactly my point, yet they put up 41 points in that game.
You can thow out that game. Gruden, the former Oakland coach had the Raiders play book. As one of the TB players said "we knew what they were going to do before the ball was snapped".
Seattle +1.5-.2.5 (lock my line Saturday) $16,500 to win $15,000
Seattle ML $5,000 @ +110-120
Lynch over 88.5 yards $550 to win $500
Russell Wislon MVP @ +450 $500
Lynch MVP @ +1600 $250
Seattle +1.5-.2.5 (lock my line Saturday) $16,500 to win $15,000
Seattle ML $5,000 @ +110-120
Lynch over 88.5 yards $550 to win $500
Russell Wislon MVP @ +450 $500
Lynch MVP @ +1600 $250
few comments:
- opening line is important, just like the line movement... but neither of that is a sure way to pick a winner. Seattle has a great team, so the opening line didn't surprise me... not the direction it took.
- "Defense wins Championship" has been the most 'public' cliche i heard for this SB. It seems like every person and jane is believing the hype that this Seattle's D is for real. However, this particular defense's strength is the LBs and the DBs, rather than traditional front seven. Apples and Oranges IMO
- 2002 SB was Jon Gruden's revenge and based on his inside info.. the TB defense already knew what plays oak was running.. and TB had hall of fame and pro-bowl front line.
- no doubt the Hawks get TOs.. but the # is padded when u play the likes of CK, Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer twice in the same division. CK alone turned over the ball three times in last game.
- C'mon man.. u can't really say that both games vs Saints were against top-tier offense. Brees on the road is more like watching Eli.. very frustrating. When u take away his option to audible properly due to Seattle's 12th man and HFA, its no wonder Saints failed to make a game out of it. If anyone wagered on the saints+3 for the 1st game, they are prob a fool.
- Denver may have had zero TO forced in 8 quarters of Playoff.. but they also kept the opponents to 0 points in first 3Q vs Bolts and 3 points in first 3Q vs New England.. and won both games convincingly.
So its obvious Denver can win the SB game without winning the TO battle.
--------------
I am also starting to doubt that Denver is the public play.
I think too many people here at Covers is happy to rely on a simple motto "Defense wins championship" when they don't realize the bases for that.. or they think Denver is the public play and just go against public.. rather than studying the key match-up: off line vs def line
Enjoy the game
few comments:
- opening line is important, just like the line movement... but neither of that is a sure way to pick a winner. Seattle has a great team, so the opening line didn't surprise me... not the direction it took.
- "Defense wins Championship" has been the most 'public' cliche i heard for this SB. It seems like every person and jane is believing the hype that this Seattle's D is for real. However, this particular defense's strength is the LBs and the DBs, rather than traditional front seven. Apples and Oranges IMO
- 2002 SB was Jon Gruden's revenge and based on his inside info.. the TB defense already knew what plays oak was running.. and TB had hall of fame and pro-bowl front line.
- no doubt the Hawks get TOs.. but the # is padded when u play the likes of CK, Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer twice in the same division. CK alone turned over the ball three times in last game.
- C'mon man.. u can't really say that both games vs Saints were against top-tier offense. Brees on the road is more like watching Eli.. very frustrating. When u take away his option to audible properly due to Seattle's 12th man and HFA, its no wonder Saints failed to make a game out of it. If anyone wagered on the saints+3 for the 1st game, they are prob a fool.
- Denver may have had zero TO forced in 8 quarters of Playoff.. but they also kept the opponents to 0 points in first 3Q vs Bolts and 3 points in first 3Q vs New England.. and won both games convincingly.
So its obvious Denver can win the SB game without winning the TO battle.
--------------
I am also starting to doubt that Denver is the public play.
I think too many people here at Covers is happy to rely on a simple motto "Defense wins championship" when they don't realize the bases for that.. or they think Denver is the public play and just go against public.. rather than studying the key match-up: off line vs def line
Enjoy the game
Thx, i enjoyed reading ur post
few comments:
- opening line is important, just like the line movement... but neither of that is a sure way to pick a winner. Seattle has a great team, so the opening line didn't surprise me... not the direction it took.
- "Defense wins Championship" has been the most 'public' cliche i heard for this SB. It seems like every person and jane is believing the hype that this Seattle's D is for real. However, this particular defense's strength is the LBs and the DBs, rather than traditional front seven. Apples and Oranges IMO
- 2002 SB was Jon Gruden's revenge and based on his inside info.. the TB defense already knew what plays oak was running.. and TB had hall of fame and pro-bowl front line.
- no doubt the Hawks get TOs.. but the # is padded when u play the likes of CK, Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer twice in the same division. CK alone turned over the ball three times in last game.
- C'mon man.. u can't really say that both games vs Saints were against top-tier offense. Brees on the road is more like watching Eli.. very frustrating. When u take away his option to audible properly due to Seattle's 12th man and HFA, its no wonder Saints failed to make a game out of it. If anyone wagered on the saints+3 for the 1st game, they are prob a fool.
- Denver may have had zero TO forced in 8 quarters of Playoff.. but they also kept the opponents to 0 points in first 3Q vs Bolts and 3 points in first 3Q vs New England.. and won both games convincingly.
So its obvious Denver can win the SB game without winning the TO battle.
--------------
I am also starting to doubt that Denver is the public play.
I think too many people here at Covers is happy to rely on a simple motto "Defense wins championship" when they don't realize the bases for that.. or they think Denver is the public play and just go against public.. rather than studying the key match-up: off line vs def line
Enjoy the game
Thx, i enjoyed reading ur post
few comments:
- opening line is important, just like the line movement... but neither of that is a sure way to pick a winner. Seattle has a great team, so the opening line didn't surprise me... not the direction it took.
- "Defense wins Championship" has been the most 'public' cliche i heard for this SB. It seems like every person and jane is believing the hype that this Seattle's D is for real. However, this particular defense's strength is the LBs and the DBs, rather than traditional front seven. Apples and Oranges IMO
- 2002 SB was Jon Gruden's revenge and based on his inside info.. the TB defense already knew what plays oak was running.. and TB had hall of fame and pro-bowl front line.
- no doubt the Hawks get TOs.. but the # is padded when u play the likes of CK, Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer twice in the same division. CK alone turned over the ball three times in last game.
- C'mon man.. u can't really say that both games vs Saints were against top-tier offense. Brees on the road is more like watching Eli.. very frustrating. When u take away his option to audible properly due to Seattle's 12th man and HFA, its no wonder Saints failed to make a game out of it. If anyone wagered on the saints+3 for the 1st game, they are prob a fool.
- Denver may have had zero TO forced in 8 quarters of Playoff.. but they also kept the opponents to 0 points in first 3Q vs Bolts and 3 points in first 3Q vs New England.. and won both games convincingly.
So its obvious Denver can win the SB game without winning the TO battle.
--------------
I am also starting to doubt that Denver is the public play.
I think too many people here at Covers is happy to rely on a simple motto "Defense wins championship" when they don't realize the bases for that.. or they think Denver is the public play and just go against public.. rather than studying the key match-up: off line vs def line
Enjoy the game
MetLife uses UBU-Intensity Series- S5-M Synthetic Turf..
the only other stadiums this is installed ?
MB superdome (Saints) and Paul Brown Stadium (Bengals)
Clink uses what's called FieldTurf
so how are they 12-0 on the turf used at MetLife ??
and Manning's playoff woes ? its called growing pains.. something Russell Wilson will prob have to go through, too
MetLife uses UBU-Intensity Series- S5-M Synthetic Turf..
the only other stadiums this is installed ?
MB superdome (Saints) and Paul Brown Stadium (Bengals)
Clink uses what's called FieldTurf
so how are they 12-0 on the turf used at MetLife ??
and Manning's playoff woes ? its called growing pains.. something Russell Wilson will prob have to go through, too
Wagering in Las Vegas @ the LVH...find me if you are there and I will show you my betting slips.
Seattle +1.5-.2.5 (lock my line Saturday) $16,500 to win $15,000
Seattle ML $5,000 @ +110-120
Lynch over 88.5 yards $550 to win $500
Russell Wislon MVP @ +450 $500
Lynch MVP @ +1600 $250
Wagering in Las Vegas @ the LVH...find me if you are there and I will show you my betting slips.
Seattle +1.5-.2.5 (lock my line Saturday) $16,500 to win $15,000
Seattle ML $5,000 @ +110-120
Lynch over 88.5 yards $550 to win $500
Russell Wislon MVP @ +450 $500
Lynch MVP @ +1600 $250
dude, where do u come up with this bullshit ?
MetLife uses UBU-Intensity Series- S5-M Synthetic Turf..
the only other stadiums this is installed ?
MB superdome (Saints) and Paul Brown Stadium (Bengals)
Clink uses what's called FieldTurf
so how are they 12-0 on the turf used at MetLife ??
and Manning's playoff woes ? its called growing pains.. something Russell Wilson will prob have to go through, too
dude, where do u come up with this bullshit ?
MetLife uses UBU-Intensity Series- S5-M Synthetic Turf..
the only other stadiums this is installed ?
MB superdome (Saints) and Paul Brown Stadium (Bengals)
Clink uses what's called FieldTurf
so how are they 12-0 on the turf used at MetLife ??
and Manning's playoff woes ? its called growing pains.. something Russell Wilson will prob have to go through, too
That's ravens team had a lot of experience....Seattle is a puppy when you compared to the Ravens (pit bull)
That's ravens team had a lot of experience....Seattle is a puppy when you compared to the Ravens (pit bull)
Because the spread opened as a pick'em and the public has a love affair with Peyton Manning who is 11-11 all-time in the Playoffs.
Because the spread opened as a pick'em and the public has a love affair with Peyton Manning who is 11-11 all-time in the Playoffs.
then u should be more clear and get ur facts straight
if u wanna combine all 'artificial' turf in to one, Seattle's record is 12-1 (one loss coming at Indy which does use the exact same turf as CLink) but 8 of those games are HOME games.. WTF
In away games, Seattle is 3-1 on artificial turf.
Winning at StL, Atl, NYG.. and losing to Indy.
Wow those are some Football powerhouses they played.. (roll eye)
Denver's record on artificial turf is 2-2
losing in Indy and New England and winning @ NYG and Dallas
yeah, so i can see the big advantage for Seattle u are talking about on this turf
There nothing for u and me to go back and forth about.
i have no more time to waste correcting ur silly facts
I thought u already put in ur wager.. but why don't u just wait for LeagueCapper to help u decide if u made the right decision. LMAO
then u should be more clear and get ur facts straight
if u wanna combine all 'artificial' turf in to one, Seattle's record is 12-1 (one loss coming at Indy which does use the exact same turf as CLink) but 8 of those games are HOME games.. WTF
In away games, Seattle is 3-1 on artificial turf.
Winning at StL, Atl, NYG.. and losing to Indy.
Wow those are some Football powerhouses they played.. (roll eye)
Denver's record on artificial turf is 2-2
losing in Indy and New England and winning @ NYG and Dallas
yeah, so i can see the big advantage for Seattle u are talking about on this turf
There nothing for u and me to go back and forth about.
i have no more time to waste correcting ur silly facts
I thought u already put in ur wager.. but why don't u just wait for LeagueCapper to help u decide if u made the right decision. LMAO
Thx, i enjoyed reading ur post
few comments:
- opening line is important, just like the line movement... but neither of that is a sure way to pick a winner. Seattle has a great team, so the opening line didn't surprise me... not the direction it took.
- "Defense wins Championship" has been the most 'public' cliche i heard for this SB. It seems like every person and jane is believing the hype that this Seattle's D is for real. However, this particular defense's strength is the LBs and the DBs, rather than traditional front seven. Apples and Oranges IMO
- 2002 SB was Jon Gruden's revenge and based on his inside info.. the TB defense already knew what plays oak was running.. and TB had hall of fame and pro-bowl front line.
- no doubt the Hawks get TOs.. but the # is padded when u play the likes of CK, Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer twice in the same division. CK alone turned over the ball three times in last game.
- C'mon man.. u can't really say that both games vs Saints were against top-tier offense. Brees on the road is more like watching Eli.. very frustrating. When u take away his option to audible properly due to Seattle's 12th man and HFA, its no wonder Saints failed to make a game out of it. If anyone wagered on the saints+3 for the 1st game, they are prob a fool.
- Denver may have had zero TO forced in 8 quarters of Playoff.. but they also kept the opponents to 0 points in first 3Q vs Bolts and 3 points in first 3Q vs New England.. and won both games convincingly.
So its obvious Denver can win the SB game without winning the TO battle.
--------------
I am also starting to doubt that Denver is the public play.
I think too many people here at Covers is happy to rely on a simple motto "Defense wins championship" when they don't realize the bases for that.. or they think Denver is the public play and just go against public.. rather than studying the key match-up: off line vs def line
Enjoy the game
Seattle has not padded their TO's over a few teams.
Seattle is 13-1-4 at winning the TO battle this season. Quite silly to suggest they padded their TO's against a few teams.
Denver is 5-8-5 , make no mistake about which team is far, far, far better at winning the TO battle.
Thx, i enjoyed reading ur post
few comments:
- opening line is important, just like the line movement... but neither of that is a sure way to pick a winner. Seattle has a great team, so the opening line didn't surprise me... not the direction it took.
- "Defense wins Championship" has been the most 'public' cliche i heard for this SB. It seems like every person and jane is believing the hype that this Seattle's D is for real. However, this particular defense's strength is the LBs and the DBs, rather than traditional front seven. Apples and Oranges IMO
- 2002 SB was Jon Gruden's revenge and based on his inside info.. the TB defense already knew what plays oak was running.. and TB had hall of fame and pro-bowl front line.
- no doubt the Hawks get TOs.. but the # is padded when u play the likes of CK, Sam Bradford, Carson Palmer twice in the same division. CK alone turned over the ball three times in last game.
- C'mon man.. u can't really say that both games vs Saints were against top-tier offense. Brees on the road is more like watching Eli.. very frustrating. When u take away his option to audible properly due to Seattle's 12th man and HFA, its no wonder Saints failed to make a game out of it. If anyone wagered on the saints+3 for the 1st game, they are prob a fool.
- Denver may have had zero TO forced in 8 quarters of Playoff.. but they also kept the opponents to 0 points in first 3Q vs Bolts and 3 points in first 3Q vs New England.. and won both games convincingly.
So its obvious Denver can win the SB game without winning the TO battle.
--------------
I am also starting to doubt that Denver is the public play.
I think too many people here at Covers is happy to rely on a simple motto "Defense wins championship" when they don't realize the bases for that.. or they think Denver is the public play and just go against public.. rather than studying the key match-up: off line vs def line
Enjoy the game
Seattle has not padded their TO's over a few teams.
Seattle is 13-1-4 at winning the TO battle this season. Quite silly to suggest they padded their TO's against a few teams.
Denver is 5-8-5 , make no mistake about which team is far, far, far better at winning the TO battle.
Seattle has not padded their TO's over a few teams.
Seattle is 13-1-4 at winning the TO battle this season. Quite silly to suggest they padded their TO's against a few teams.
Denver is 5-8-5 , make no mistake about which team is far, far, far better at winning the TO battle.
Seattle has not padded their TO's over a few teams.
Seattle is 13-1-4 at winning the TO battle this season. Quite silly to suggest they padded their TO's against a few teams.
Denver is 5-8-5 , make no mistake about which team is far, far, far better at winning the TO battle.
What does that tell us? It indicates that the Broncos can win, even if they lose the turnover battle.
If the turnover margin is equal, the Broncos cover easily.
If the Seahawks are +2 turnovers, I think they have a chance to cover.
In my opinion, it's going to take +3 turnovers for the Seahawks to win this game.
You're wagering that kind of money on the Seahawks to win +3 turnover margin?
Why do I say +3 on turnovers? Because the Denver Bronco's offense has proven that it can win decisively, if the margin is equal.
It's 3 losses came when it lost the turnover battle, and even in those occurences, it was never a blowout.
During the regular season they lost 3 games, where they were -1, -1, and -2, by an average of 5.3 points.
Post season, they've went -2 turnovers vs the Chargers and won by seven. The margin was equal vs the Patriots at zero, and that game didn't even seem close.
My point...Seahawks force 2+ turnovers you'll see them cover.
I think if you're going to bet, you're better off betting odds on Manning interceptions and Seahawk turnovers, rather than the point spread.
The Denver Bronco's offense is just too polished to think that the Seahawks can dominate them by more than a score. I just can't fathom it. It seems more like the longshot than the reality, at least in my perspective.
What does that tell us? It indicates that the Broncos can win, even if they lose the turnover battle.
If the turnover margin is equal, the Broncos cover easily.
If the Seahawks are +2 turnovers, I think they have a chance to cover.
In my opinion, it's going to take +3 turnovers for the Seahawks to win this game.
You're wagering that kind of money on the Seahawks to win +3 turnover margin?
Why do I say +3 on turnovers? Because the Denver Bronco's offense has proven that it can win decisively, if the margin is equal.
It's 3 losses came when it lost the turnover battle, and even in those occurences, it was never a blowout.
During the regular season they lost 3 games, where they were -1, -1, and -2, by an average of 5.3 points.
Post season, they've went -2 turnovers vs the Chargers and won by seven. The margin was equal vs the Patriots at zero, and that game didn't even seem close.
My point...Seahawks force 2+ turnovers you'll see them cover.
I think if you're going to bet, you're better off betting odds on Manning interceptions and Seahawk turnovers, rather than the point spread.
The Denver Bronco's offense is just too polished to think that the Seahawks can dominate them by more than a score. I just can't fathom it. It seems more like the longshot than the reality, at least in my perspective.
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