Im not being too much of a homer but when you have a veteran team,the field noise does not become much of a factor.
As long as they go with a silent snap count & don't want to audible......................................trust me, it's a factor in every game there. It's hard to imagine unless you've been there. Sellers' comments haven't helped matters for them. I agree though, if the skins get the running game going it'll be their best friend. Of course the same could be said for the 'hawks.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by Inittowin]
Im not being too much of a homer but when you have a veteran team,the field noise does not become much of a factor.
As long as they go with a silent snap count & don't want to audible......................................trust me, it's a factor in every game there. It's hard to imagine unless you've been there. Sellers' comments haven't helped matters for them. I agree though, if the skins get the running game going it'll be their best friend. Of course the same could be said for the 'hawks.
the pot was stirred a bit yesterday by holmgren when he was asked about the seahawks using electonics to amplify the crowd noise. he basically called out to the fans to bring a little extra for the skins. i'd like to think an opponent can handle the noise when playing in this situation, but it's worth noting that the crowd really believes they have a big impact, and that helps sustain the noise and even increase it when the situation warrants. not saying i think collins and/or skins fold under this pressure, but themugg is right, the noise can be deafening.
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the pot was stirred a bit yesterday by holmgren when he was asked about the seahawks using electonics to amplify the crowd noise. he basically called out to the fans to bring a little extra for the skins. i'd like to think an opponent can handle the noise when playing in this situation, but it's worth noting that the crowd really believes they have a big impact, and that helps sustain the noise and even increase it when the situation warrants. not saying i think collins and/or skins fold under this pressure, but themugg is right, the noise can be deafening.
seahawks -3 2units if u want wash by 1/2 pt & play ML also 2 units each wager. thats what kind of line u have this gm get better no, on diff gms go light early so u can be in it for long haul GL
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seahawks -3 2units if u want wash by 1/2 pt & play ML also 2 units each wager. thats what kind of line u have this gm get better no, on diff gms go light early so u can be in it for long haul GL
Yes but when you keep their def on the field for a 5 min drive and bust in in for a td, that takes the crowd out of the game.If seattle gets up a few scores it will make it more difficult.The key to the game is the running game and Moss finally healthy,this opens the field for Cooley.
We can go back and forth all day long,i just ask for a good game.
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Yes but when you keep their def on the field for a 5 min drive and bust in in for a td, that takes the crowd out of the game.If seattle gets up a few scores it will make it more difficult.The key to the game is the running game and Moss finally healthy,this opens the field for Cooley.
We can go back and forth all day long,i just ask for a good game.
"Take away Dallas and the NFC East is just as bad as the NFC West. SF STL and ARZ all lost their starting QBs for most or all of the season."
OMFG....you are a MORON! NFC EAST is BEST conference in NFC and 2nd Best this year in NFL. Dude I am at home chillin please send me some of what you are smokin! Crovax you must be a young dude or....I don't know WTF you are... but smart it isn't!!!!!!
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"Take away Dallas and the NFC East is just as bad as the NFC West. SF STL and ARZ all lost their starting QBs for most or all of the season."
OMFG....you are a MORON! NFC EAST is BEST conference in NFC and 2nd Best this year in NFL. Dude I am at home chillin please send me some of what you are smokin! Crovax you must be a young dude or....I don't know WTF you are... but smart it isn't!!!!!!
Why is the NFC East SO good b/c 3 teams made the playoffs?? It should have only been 1 maybe 2. It took the Giants almost to the last game to get in. It took the Redskins against a practice squad to get in. The Vikings and Cardinals are way better teams then both and should have made it. Yeah they didnt. Ok. I will not be surprised to see both the Redskins and Giants lose in first round and Dallas to get beat by the Bucs next week.
Nobody is good in the NFC this year or has been since the Bucs won and thats only b/c Gruden left Oak..he knew everything. Whoever wins the NFC they will more then likely get destroyed in Super Bowl.
Sorry I am from NJ and see the NFC East teams all year....I am not impressed with any of them. When played to all their strengths and their best games....the 2 best teams in the NFC are GB and SEA but they are in the same bracket....one of those 2 will rep. the NFC this year in Super Bowl.
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Why is the NFC East SO good b/c 3 teams made the playoffs?? It should have only been 1 maybe 2. It took the Giants almost to the last game to get in. It took the Redskins against a practice squad to get in. The Vikings and Cardinals are way better teams then both and should have made it. Yeah they didnt. Ok. I will not be surprised to see both the Redskins and Giants lose in first round and Dallas to get beat by the Bucs next week.
Nobody is good in the NFC this year or has been since the Bucs won and thats only b/c Gruden left Oak..he knew everything. Whoever wins the NFC they will more then likely get destroyed in Super Bowl.
Sorry I am from NJ and see the NFC East teams all year....I am not impressed with any of them. When played to all their strengths and their best games....the 2 best teams in the NFC are GB and SEA but they are in the same bracket....one of those 2 will rep. the NFC this year in Super Bowl.
And coming from a real fan who travels from NJ to Seattle to see games...yes the crowd noise is incredible....its like being in the loudest rock club and having to scream at your friend next to you to have them hear you. You just can not hear down on the field when they are getting LOUD!!
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And coming from a real fan who travels from NJ to Seattle to see games...yes the crowd noise is incredible....its like being in the loudest rock club and having to scream at your friend next to you to have them hear you. You just can not hear down on the field when they are getting LOUD!!
And in response to some calling me an idiot and a moron....you people are just ignorant for making those comments. Please throw stats are something concrete at me. Calling me names doesnt exactly prove good points.
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And in response to some calling me an idiot and a moron....you people are just ignorant for making those comments. Please throw stats are something concrete at me. Calling me names doesnt exactly prove good points.
Skins vs. practice squad...no that is incorrect. TO didn't play other than that Boyz had starters in until game was out of reach in 2nd half. Skins played 2nd toughest schedule in NFL and their division followed suit....so if Seaettle played easiest schedule...their division would have played similiar schedule. If I'm not mistaken the NFC had a better record vs AFC...which completely negates your point of stronger conference. Cards and Vikes should have been in? Vikes lost at home to both Eagles and Skins...destroyed...Skins beat Cards..Cards beat 2 teams with winning record....see this is what I meaz...do some research on Strngth of schedule and who played who and what not. Do I need to remind you of the HISTORY of the NFC EAST? What F'ing rivalry's are in the NFC WEST? The Hawks just got there for C sake! MORON...sorry dude you asked for that!
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Skins vs. practice squad...no that is incorrect. TO didn't play other than that Boyz had starters in until game was out of reach in 2nd half. Skins played 2nd toughest schedule in NFL and their division followed suit....so if Seaettle played easiest schedule...their division would have played similiar schedule. If I'm not mistaken the NFC had a better record vs AFC...which completely negates your point of stronger conference. Cards and Vikes should have been in? Vikes lost at home to both Eagles and Skins...destroyed...Skins beat Cards..Cards beat 2 teams with winning record....see this is what I meaz...do some research on Strngth of schedule and who played who and what not. Do I need to remind you of the HISTORY of the NFC EAST? What F'ing rivalry's are in the NFC WEST? The Hawks just got there for C sake! MORON...sorry dude you asked for that!
Funny how everyone keeps bringing up SOS....it means absolute crap. There are injuries and many factors that come into play during a season. On talent alone I stick to my comment of SEA and GB being the best. SOS has no merit in the playoffs....the last 2 super bowls were won by wild-card teams. SOS has got to be the lamest stat people use in football but yet for this game it seems to be the biggest for Redskins backers. I really hope you have more then that if that is really the team you are backing. Oh and especially love people throwing around historical stats....who cares it was in the past. Its as bad as people trying to compare the 72 Dolphins with this years Pats.
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Funny how everyone keeps bringing up SOS....it means absolute crap. There are injuries and many factors that come into play during a season. On talent alone I stick to my comment of SEA and GB being the best. SOS has no merit in the playoffs....the last 2 super bowls were won by wild-card teams. SOS has got to be the lamest stat people use in football but yet for this game it seems to be the biggest for Redskins backers. I really hope you have more then that if that is really the team you are backing. Oh and especially love people throwing around historical stats....who cares it was in the past. Its as bad as people trying to compare the 72 Dolphins with this years Pats.
As far as loud crowd...dude...I grew up going to RFK....make some history in that stadium first then come talk to me. Go see a game at the Linc...against your enemy..which I guess would be Zona but do they even have crowd noise there? I don't know its just not even a comparison. Arguing the NFC WEST and EAST. Thats why I assume you are young because your points are so naive. FACT... NFC EAST played harder schedule and fared better than NFC WEST!!!! CASE IN POINT. Hail to the REDSKINS!!!!!!
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As far as loud crowd...dude...I grew up going to RFK....make some history in that stadium first then come talk to me. Go see a game at the Linc...against your enemy..which I guess would be Zona but do they even have crowd noise there? I don't know its just not even a comparison. Arguing the NFC WEST and EAST. Thats why I assume you are young because your points are so naive. FACT... NFC EAST played harder schedule and fared better than NFC WEST!!!! CASE IN POINT. Hail to the REDSKINS!!!!!!
I like the Seahawks -3.5. They're a good team with a polished offense. In my mind, they're like the NFL equivalent of the old Utah Jazz with Stockton & Malone. Not good enough to win championships, but good enough to crush lesser teams in the postseason. I think the final will be something like 24-13, so I like the Hawks, and lean to the Under.
Oh yeah, I'll add that the Hawks might have had the easiest/luckiest season that I've ever seen, in terms of lack of injuries, weak schedule, weak division, getting a couple games gifted to them, and so forth. Still, putting aside the luck factor, they're better than the Skins, especially when playing in Seattle.
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I like the Seahawks -3.5. They're a good team with a polished offense. In my mind, they're like the NFL equivalent of the old Utah Jazz with Stockton & Malone. Not good enough to win championships, but good enough to crush lesser teams in the postseason. I think the final will be something like 24-13, so I like the Hawks, and lean to the Under.
Oh yeah, I'll add that the Hawks might have had the easiest/luckiest season that I've ever seen, in terms of lack of injuries, weak schedule, weak division, getting a couple games gifted to them, and so forth. Still, putting aside the luck factor, they're better than the Skins, especially when playing in Seattle.
So what do you want to compare.....Offensive rushing yd per average and and receiving yard per average stats. Skins are better? QB Rating...I'll take Collins a vet who understands offense of coordinator he has been with for years! Look take your Hawks...you'll be sorry though!
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So what do you want to compare.....Offensive rushing yd per average and and receiving yard per average stats. Skins are better? QB Rating...I'll take Collins a vet who understands offense of coordinator he has been with for years! Look take your Hawks...you'll be sorry though!
Yes I have seen the Hawks in the Linc (x2) and in Giants Stadium and in Baltimore those fans are pussycats to how loud Hawks fans get. Please.
Collins a Vet...and Im a moron?? hes played 44 games in 9 years. 12 in the last 5 yrs not counting this year. vs Hasselbeck whos played 135 in 9 yrs. You have to play the games to be a Vet or get exp. Holding a clipboard most of your career does not make you one....I dont care how well you know the offense.
Ive made my points and several....please give me something better then SOS or what Gibbs did over 10 yrs ago.
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Yes I have seen the Hawks in the Linc (x2) and in Giants Stadium and in Baltimore those fans are pussycats to how loud Hawks fans get. Please.
Collins a Vet...and Im a moron?? hes played 44 games in 9 years. 12 in the last 5 yrs not counting this year. vs Hasselbeck whos played 135 in 9 yrs. You have to play the games to be a Vet or get exp. Holding a clipboard most of your career does not make you one....I dont care how well you know the offense.
Ive made my points and several....please give me something better then SOS or what Gibbs did over 10 yrs ago.
You just keep saying SOS is over rated and a moronic stat. You give no reasoning, yet ask for some in return. This recent Seahawks lovefest on covers.com makes me feel all that better about my larger than usual ML play on the Skins.
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You just keep saying SOS is over rated and a moronic stat. You give no reasoning, yet ask for some in return. This recent Seahawks lovefest on covers.com makes me feel all that better about my larger than usual ML play on the Skins.
I really can't believe you people keep taking skins moneyline. It's a shitty bet. Every single playoff post turn out out to be male sword fighting. Our crowd peaks at 103.7 db when opposing teams get in the red zone!! Oh yeah?!! My team has a larger average yards per every third 4th down my team throws the ball at home with wind speeds over 13.5 mph in January during odd number years. Flip a coin folks. You'll do much better.
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I really can't believe you people keep taking skins moneyline. It's a shitty bet. Every single playoff post turn out out to be male sword fighting. Our crowd peaks at 103.7 db when opposing teams get in the red zone!! Oh yeah?!! My team has a larger average yards per every third 4th down my team throws the ball at home with wind speeds over 13.5 mph in January during odd number years. Flip a coin folks. You'll do much better.
luckynicho: agreed.. most teams in the nfc have been weak as of late. and leinart and smith have yet to live up to any hype.
i just don't think its fair when people say the hawks couldn't compete in other divisions such as the mighty nfc east. cause clearly (7-1 the 3 season against them) they could be.
with you bud.. seattle is incredible and could would more than hang in the east. they are clearly the 3rd best team in the league. i hope nobody gets the idea that i'm hating on seattle. just had to respond to an ignorant comment made earlier in thread.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanhawk:
luckynicho: agreed.. most teams in the nfc have been weak as of late. and leinart and smith have yet to live up to any hype.
i just don't think its fair when people say the hawks couldn't compete in other divisions such as the mighty nfc east. cause clearly (7-1 the 3 season against them) they could be.
with you bud.. seattle is incredible and could would more than hang in the east. they are clearly the 3rd best team in the league. i hope nobody gets the idea that i'm hating on seattle. just had to respond to an ignorant comment made earlier in thread.
I like the Seahawks -3.5. They're a good team with a polished offense. In my mind, they're like the NFL equivalent of the old Utah Jazz with Stockton & Malone. Not good enough to win championships, but good enough to crush lesser teams in the postseason. I think the final will be something like 24-13, so I like the Hawks, and lean to the Under.
Oh yeah, I'll add that the Hawks might have had the easiest/luckiest season that I've ever seen, in terms of lack of injuries, weak schedule, weak division, getting a couple games gifted to them, and so forth. Still, putting aside the luck factor, they're better than the Skins, especially when playing in Seattle.
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuit:
I like the Seahawks -3.5. They're a good team with a polished offense. In my mind, they're like the NFL equivalent of the old Utah Jazz with Stockton & Malone. Not good enough to win championships, but good enough to crush lesser teams in the postseason. I think the final will be something like 24-13, so I like the Hawks, and lean to the Under.
Oh yeah, I'll add that the Hawks might have had the easiest/luckiest season that I've ever seen, in terms of lack of injuries, weak schedule, weak division, getting a couple games gifted to them, and so forth. Still, putting aside the luck factor, they're better than the Skins, especially when playing in Seattle.
Still think the Seahawks are overated. but.........
either way im not betting against a team that almost seems as if to have assistance from a higher being on their side with the whole Sean Taylor thing. The level of emotion, motivation and heart that this Skins team is playing with is not something I want to go against right now. Def not tryin to get religous on u guys or anything just saying i think there are better games to take. i may actually play small on the over just before kickoff.
anyway, that is all, GL
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Still think the Seahawks are overated. but.........
either way im not betting against a team that almost seems as if to have assistance from a higher being on their side with the whole Sean Taylor thing. The level of emotion, motivation and heart that this Skins team is playing with is not something I want to go against right now. Def not tryin to get religous on u guys or anything just saying i think there are better games to take. i may actually play small on the over just before kickoff.
seahawks are soft....holmgren....hasselbeck....alexander......they just bug the fuck outta me..... zero killer instinct what so ever...
they talk about how loud their stadium is....who gives a fuck......
i could give a shit less about these two teams...but, if you've been
following football this season, you gotta know these skins are playin with some passion.......I just feel that they're gonna put a hurt on these box mother fuckin peeweehawks.....rollin with the
skins +3 & the over 39.5......just a tougher, hungrier team........
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seahawks are soft....holmgren....hasselbeck....alexander......they just bug the fuck outta me..... zero killer instinct what so ever...
they talk about how loud their stadium is....who gives a fuck......
i could give a shit less about these two teams...but, if you've been
following football this season, you gotta know these skins are playin with some passion.......I just feel that they're gonna put a hurt on these box mother fuckin peeweehawks.....rollin with the
skins +3 & the over 39.5......just a tougher, hungrier team........
however, wind is still forecast to decrease to 10-15
rain will fall in form of showers to t-showers, thus very hard to predict the whens and wheres. basically, it's going to be a normal winter day in seattle. the weather will have little or no impact my on play a make today.
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weather is bad right now at 11:00am local time,
however, wind is still forecast to decrease to 10-15
rain will fall in form of showers to t-showers, thus very hard to predict the whens and wheres. basically, it's going to be a normal winter day in seattle. the weather will have little or no impact my on play a make today.
I don't disagree that Seattle had a soft schedule but at the same time they were 7-1 at home. Can't do a whole lot better and you can only play the team in front of you. Seattle has always been a tough home team, but I do think they are vulnerable here. Very tough call.
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I don't disagree that Seattle had a soft schedule but at the same time they were 7-1 at home. Can't do a whole lot better and you can only play the team in front of you. Seattle has always been a tough home team, but I do think they are vulnerable here. Very tough call.
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