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    Saints (Square) @ 49ers (Sharp) .... Which R U? Explain.....

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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:10 AM ET #26

    Over!!
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:10 AM ET #27

    besides MFM85, i have a weekly thread that ill be posting my pick with a full write-up either tomorrow night or Saturday morning... check in if u want my take on this game then..... just fishin for some quality info and opinions here... neither of which youve provided!
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    besides MFM85, i have a weekly thread that ill be posting my pick with a full write-up either tomorrow night or Saturday morning... check in if u want my take on this game then..... just fishin for some quality info and opinions here... neither of which youve provided!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:11 AM ET #28

    49ers + 3.5
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:12 AM ET #29

    It's 49ers destiny,saints had the throne already,time for 49ers to get the spotlight..
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    It's 49ers destiny,saints had the throne already,time for 49ers to get the spotlight..
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 7:25 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by FrontRowCenter:

    The smart play is San Fran or pass on the play.  I refuse to be on a play with the masses.   It is not a formula for success!!

     

     


    Not saying you should always bet with the masses, but that is a short-sighted comment.  New Orleans and the Det/NO over were ridiculously square plays, and there was even a Covers article on how Vegas had a strong rooting interest in seeing a low scoring Detroit cover, but in the end both square plays won.

    Based on what I've seen, I think the way you beat NO is to outscore them, not slow them down.  Green Bay will outscore them next week.  I don't see Alex Smith keeping up, especially if the Saints jump out to a lead early.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrontRowCenter:

    The smart play is San Fran or pass on the play.  I refuse to be on a play with the masses.   It is not a formula for success!!

     

     


    Not saying you should always bet with the masses, but that is a short-sighted comment.  New Orleans and the Det/NO over were ridiculously square plays, and there was even a Covers article on how Vegas had a strong rooting interest in seeing a low scoring Detroit cover, but in the end both square plays won.

    Based on what I've seen, I think the way you beat NO is to outscore them, not slow them down.  Green Bay will outscore them next week.  I don't see Alex Smith keeping up, especially if the Saints jump out to a lead early.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 4:35 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by msandberg:


    Not saying you should always bet with the masses, but that is a short-sighted comment.  New Orleans and the Det/NO over were ridiculously square plays, and there was even a Covers article on how Vegas had a strong rooting interest in seeing a low scoring Detroit cover, but in the end both square plays won.

    Based on what I've seen, I think the way you beat NO is to outscore them, not slow them down.  Green Bay will outscore them next week.  I don't see Alex Smith keeping up, especially if the Saints jump out to a lead early.

    while i agee that the DET/NO Over was a Square play, by no means was NO -10.5 a blatant square play (im not suggesting there wasnt more money on NO, it just wasnt a 70%+ Public Play).... Detroit has proven to be a public favorite n they just scored a shitload of points the week before against GB, i do not think NO was as Public a Play as they will be thiswk... SF was already a team that a lot of the Public Faded Heavily bc of them sucking lastyr and their 1970s style of run the ball and play ferocious defense and NO is a HUGE Public Play.... id imagine 75% of the public is ALL OVER N'awlens thiswk.... my play is still undecided and im genuinely TORN.... as of right now, im leaning Saints.... but not by much

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    Quote Originally Posted by msandberg:


    Not saying you should always bet with the masses, but that is a short-sighted comment.  New Orleans and the Det/NO over were ridiculously square plays, and there was even a Covers article on how Vegas had a strong rooting interest in seeing a low scoring Detroit cover, but in the end both square plays won.

    Based on what I've seen, I think the way you beat NO is to outscore them, not slow them down.  Green Bay will outscore them next week.  I don't see Alex Smith keeping up, especially if the Saints jump out to a lead early.

    while i agee that the DET/NO Over was a Square play, by no means was NO -10.5 a blatant square play (im not suggesting there wasnt more money on NO, it just wasnt a 70%+ Public Play).... Detroit has proven to be a public favorite n they just scored a shitload of points the week before against GB, i do not think NO was as Public a Play as they will be thiswk... SF was already a team that a lot of the Public Faded Heavily bc of them sucking lastyr and their 1970s style of run the ball and play ferocious defense and NO is a HUGE Public Play.... id imagine 75% of the public is ALL OVER N'awlens thiswk.... my play is still undecided and im genuinely TORN.... as of right now, im leaning Saints.... but not by much

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 5:34 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by tony2toes:

    Saints have won 9 in a row and are averaging 30+ points along with covering during this period. You can compare to games of the past, different teams and trends, up to you. My money is going on the better QB, more experienced playoff team, better coach and more than capable defense. I cannot and will not put my hard earned money on Alex Smith especially considering they were 6-10 last year.


    Alex Smith has a better QB rating and better TD/Int ratio in Candlestick than does Brees on real grass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tony2toes:

    Saints have won 9 in a row and are averaging 30+ points along with covering during this period. You can compare to games of the past, different teams and trends, up to you. My money is going on the better QB, more experienced playoff team, better coach and more than capable defense. I cannot and will not put my hard earned money on Alex Smith especially considering they were 6-10 last year.


    Alex Smith has a better QB rating and better TD/Int ratio in Candlestick than does Brees on real grass.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:03 PM ET #33

    bets 2 win you had great year last year. this year not as good.im 49er fan so i want bet on my team.hopefully they will win. i do like balt-7.5,ne-13.5,&^51.like gbay^.thursday sf & today no which one. good luck to you. im not betting this week,or last week because work is slow.
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    bets 2 win you had great year last year. this year not as good.im 49er fan so i want bet on my team.hopefully they will win. i do like balt-7.5,ne-13.5,&^51.like gbay^.thursday sf & today no which one. good luck to you. im not betting this week,or last week because work is slow.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:04 PM ET #34

    i meant wont bet on my 49ers oops
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    i meant wont bet on my 49ers oops
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:10 PM ET #35

    Wazuuuuup Mah an Bets2win


    49ers 

    I don't have an explanation it's a Gut feeling mah man
    What do you call an Eternal Optimist? An accordion player with a beeper!
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    Wazuuuuup Mah an Bets2win


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    I don't have an explanation it's a Gut feeling mah man
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:34 PM ET #36

    GL this week, bets
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:52 PM ET #37

    Although the Saints offense is spectacular, you have to be worried about how they play on the road in this game. The niners' game plan I think everyone knows. Stop the run, get after Brees once that has been accomplished, and stick to running the ball offensively. The buzz around the Saints has kinda distorted how solid and well-rounded the 49ers actually are. I think your Niners play is the smart one because of their defense, rest, it's at home, and the Saints are not as sharp on grass and away.....Good luck my friend I'm rolling with the niners but not bettin the farm on it!!!.....
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    Although the Saints offense is spectacular, you have to be worried about how they play on the road in this game. The niners' game plan I think everyone knows. Stop the run, get after Brees once that has been accomplished, and stick to running the ball offensively. The buzz around the Saints has kinda distorted how solid and well-rounded the 49ers actually are. I think your Niners play is the smart one because of their defense, rest, it's at home, and the Saints are not as sharp on grass and away.....Good luck my friend I'm rolling with the niners but not bettin the farm on it!!!.....
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:54 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by shrimp1958:

    Aldon Smith will need 2 get in Bree's face to tilt the game their way,and Gore will need 125 yds on the ground or they buried...still will be on SF....+3.5...

    I'm confused.  You're going with a Snake Eyes hunch here.  Why not pick the more probable outcome?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shrimp1958:

    Aldon Smith will need 2 get in Bree's face to tilt the game their way,and Gore will need 125 yds on the ground or they buried...still will be on SF....+3.5...

    I'm confused.  You're going with a Snake Eyes hunch here.  Why not pick the more probable outcome?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:54 PM ET #39

    Saints lock, 49ers over rated, week ass division, saints wont lose to this team on the road, they know they lost to seattle and bears, will be ready, have good team and coaching leadership,,jim hardballs lemon.
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    Saints lock, 49ers over rated, week ass division, saints wont lose to this team on the road, they know they lost to seattle and bears, will be ready, have good team and coaching leadership,,jim hardballs lemon.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 8:57 PM ET #40

    In regards to the title in your thread....you got it backward.
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    In regards to the title in your thread....you got it backward.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 9:35 PM ET #41

    the line says it all
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 9:41 PM ET #42

    SAINTS  34 31....win but DON T COVER
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    SAINTS  34 31....win but DON T COVER
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 10:00 PM ET #43

    I asked my brother today to pick this line and he is a casual football fan, he gave me Niners plus 10.
    That is all I need to know
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    I asked my brother today to pick this line and he is a casual football fan, he gave me Niners plus 10.
    That is all I need to know
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 10:00 PM ET #44

    I think what people are overlooking is that the saints defense is far from good, get them on the road and a niners offense who isn't great, but can move the ball, they just cannot score in the red zone, but they been practicing with the first string defense about that and have looked better. I think the niners will move the ball a lot better than people think. Niners 27, saints 20
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    I think what people are overlooking is that the saints defense is far from good, get them on the road and a niners offense who isn't great, but can move the ball, they just cannot score in the red zone, but they been practicing with the first string defense about that and have looked better. I think the niners will move the ball a lot better than people think. Niners 27, saints 20
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 10:03 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankT55:

    Saints lock, 49ers over rated, week ass division, saints wont lose to this team on the road, they know they lost to seattle and bears, will be ready, have good team and coaching leadership,,jim hardballs lemon.



    Oh man do I love this post!
    Just what the Saints were saying last year minus 10 vs the Seahawks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrankT55:

    Saints lock, 49ers over rated, week ass division, saints wont lose to this team on the road, they know they lost to seattle and bears, will be ready, have good team and coaching leadership,,jim hardballs lemon.



    Oh man do I love this post!
    Just what the Saints were saying last year minus 10 vs the Seahawks!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 10:23 PM ET #46

    Playing all the dogs this week Bets and can't pass up this home pup on a field surface  that favors defense. I for one do not see Saints putting up 30+ here mainly because SanFrans front 7 is as good as it gets and will limit both Graham and Sproles.  Just look at Brees on the road this year and it's obvious they are a completely different team away...now they take to the road and face a very well coached and rested 9ers team w/ one of the best D's in NFL on a slow track outdoors  that can slow the game down and  limit Saints possessions forcing them to navigate  long fields simply because they are the best kicking team in the league and play great defense.  Brees is a very good QB that is going to look average and have most scratching their heads Saturday,  Alex Smith is a very average QB at best that they ask not to manage the game making few mistakes and just allow their  D and specials to win games for them.  Field position dominated by 9ers is the difference  where they can win this scoring less than 30. GL!

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    Playing all the dogs this week Bets and can't pass up this home pup on a field surface  that favors defense. I for one do not see Saints putting up 30+ here mainly because SanFrans front 7 is as good as it gets and will limit both Graham and Sproles.  Just look at Brees on the road this year and it's obvious they are a completely different team away...now they take to the road and face a very well coached and rested 9ers team w/ one of the best D's in NFL on a slow track outdoors  that can slow the game down and  limit Saints possessions forcing them to navigate  long fields simply because they are the best kicking team in the league and play great defense.  Brees is a very good QB that is going to look average and have most scratching their heads Saturday,  Alex Smith is a very average QB at best that they ask not to manage the game making few mistakes and just allow their  D and specials to win games for them.  Field position dominated by 9ers is the difference  where they can win this scoring less than 30. GL!

     
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    49ers Defense have picked off 17 INT and oppoents QB rating of under 59 rating,,!

    Homedogs is the play here..!

    Then again, I took LSU..!

     

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    49ers Defense have picked off 17 INT and oppoents QB rating of under 59 rating,,!

    Homedogs is the play here..!

    Then again, I took LSU..!

     

     
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    Most Saints scored on grass this year was 30 @ Carolina..now going against best D in the league?

    Those of you who are already spotting Brees 4 TDs are delusional
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    Most Saints scored on grass this year was 30 @ Carolina..now going against best D in the league?

    Those of you who are already spotting Brees 4 TDs are delusional
     
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    You can start by realizing the Saints don't run a spread offense.  They may come out in 4 or 5 wide every now and then, but they mostly make good use of their tight ends and RBs.  This is why their running game is ranked 6th with 160+ yards in 4 straight games.  They use just as many power (FB/2TE) sets as they use 4/5 wides.  That offense is physical and can match the size and speed of the SF defense easily.  Start with that.

    For me, it comes down to SF only having a chance if they force 2+ turnovers and the Saints add on about 5+ penalties to their own drives or aid SF drives.  History says yes, SF will because the Saints have been prone to these things on the road.

    However, I say no.  I see a focused team that's been there, done that.  I see SF as the one with the penalties and TOs.

     

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    You can start by realizing the Saints don't run a spread offense.  They may come out in 4 or 5 wide every now and then, but they mostly make good use of their tight ends and RBs.  This is why their running game is ranked 6th with 160+ yards in 4 straight games.  They use just as many power (FB/2TE) sets as they use 4/5 wides.  That offense is physical and can match the size and speed of the SF defense easily.  Start with that.

    For me, it comes down to SF only having a chance if they force 2+ turnovers and the Saints add on about 5+ penalties to their own drives or aid SF drives.  History says yes, SF will because the Saints have been prone to these things on the road.

    However, I say no.  I see a focused team that's been there, done that.  I see SF as the one with the penalties and TOs.

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellogovna227:

    Most Saints scored on grass this year was 30 @ Carolina..now going against best D in the league?

    Those of you who are already spotting Brees 4 TDs are delusional

    Wrong.  Scored 34 @Green Bay and knocking on the door as time expired.  Also had 503 yards of offense @Jacksonville (6th ranked defense, 49ers ranked 4th).

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellogovna227:

    Most Saints scored on grass this year was 30 @ Carolina..now going against best D in the league?

    Those of you who are already spotting Brees 4 TDs are delusional

    Wrong.  Scored 34 @Green Bay and knocking on the door as time expired.  Also had 503 yards of offense @Jacksonville (6th ranked defense, 49ers ranked 4th).

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