Sagarin rank and sos

I use sagarin ratings and sos as part of my nfl and college football analysis .    He stopped doing NBA and NHL back in February, not sure if he is done doing ratings or is incapacitated and won’t be doing them this year .   

if you know a website that provides BOTH Rank and Schedule Strength  for either or both NFL or college, please list them  - thanks in advance . 

I certainly miss his ratings.

Maybe check out Massey Ratings 

They were usually with a point or two of each other.  I think of Sagarin as superior because they were/are used in the NCAA basketball tournament selection and seeding.

"they" should have "his lines."

Is there information out there that says he will not be doing NFL / CFB this season ?

I have heard that those setting the lines have used Massey Ratings as a guide to do so, but that is not etched in stone.

TeamRankings.com  may help you out..I love the site.  

Wouldn't surprise me they use Massey ratings as their baseline and add their own spin to the formula. 

I like to look at those ratings they seem to be more accessible to me than the Sagarin ratings. The updates to his ratings don't seem to be as timely as Massey's.

I always here people refer Kenpom ratings when it comes to college 

KenPom is the current king of NCAABB power ratings.  Joe Fortenbaugh has mentioned those ratings several times on ESPN Bet Live.

@DogbiteWilliams

 Me too .   He actually stopped college baskets in 2023 when USA Today - contract ended . 

@Wizerguy

I hope does - I’ve emailed him before and he always responded - last email I sent was back March - no response .   On his website - no nba or hockey since February - making me think he’s done - hope I’m wrong . 

@Indigo999

 Okay. 

@Biscuiteater1

 Got it -

@Digitalkarma

 thanks a lot .  I know Kenpom did basketball - wasn’t sure about football 

@Digitalkarma

 thanks - will do 

Appreciate the info and comments - All !!!!   

Massey has Ravens as the #1 power rated team heading into training camp, took over the Eagles #1 spot after end of season. Interesting. 

Also swapped spots with Eagles on the offensive ratings from #3 going to #4. Gonna compare the two to see what's changed basically the same roster with the addition of D. Hop for Balty and AJ Dillon for Philly. Interestingly, Packers defense move up and bump Philly out of the #2 spot in Massey ratings. Ravens rated as #1 on defense.

Balty projected future SOS to be 11th hardest while Philly projected to have 6th hardest. Meanwhile KC projected to have the 19th hardest *grumble* 

Idk, I use Massey, ESPN, and inpredictable and noticed that Massey would totally inflate the larger spreads into even larger spreads than the market had. My Massey-based picks would kill my winrate on large spread games, so I became wary of that.

Anyone else notice that? Inpredictable seems to be the best 

@Sidehatch didn't know Inpredictable ratings, but they look good! Thanks.

EDIT: that said, it appears Inpredictable is 

EDIT: that said, it appears that Inpredictable, instead of Massey, inflates the larger spreads (top 3 and bottom 3) into even larger spreads than the market had.

EDIT 2: does Inpredictable update ratings fast enough? Last one is from december 2024.

Inside the link is the power rankings from Steve Makinen of VSIN. Makinen used to work for Statfox. Scroll 1/3 of the way down. You will see the teams in their respective divisions. The 1st highlighted area is SM PR which is Steve Makinen power rating. He updates his power ratings on a weekly basis during the regular season. I hope this helps.

NFL Schedule Projections and Power Ratings - VSiN

@sundance

 Thanks!

@TheBuddah

 Sonny Moore's computer power ratings