Just heard the Patriot center is out for the season. The Pats on a season outlook have a lot of time to adapt and get things straight, but that definitely is a huge factor this weekend playing San Diego. Just another reason Im liking my SD-7 a little more.
Spent most of my morning watching Short Cuts(the greatest capping tool known to man, IMO) and a few things I picked up.....
- Detroit looked incredible Sunday. The final score and stat sheet does not do justice to the domination they laid on the Bucs. I think you mentioned earlier in the thread about possibly teasing them down and if 7 point teasers are available, I think knocking them to 2 is a smart play.
- SF looks atrocious. Seattle is a real dogshit team(although their D looked pretty good) and SFs offense was pretty sad. Their o line did little for the running game, and while their defense was pretty good, I counted a good 7-8 plays where Jackson misfired and almost any decent QB out there would have made those plays. I think I'm gonna roll with Dallas -3 next week although I still need to do some research before I fire.
- While I like Houston on a whole, that Indy rout might be a little misleading. At one point, Collins fumbled twice(both unforced errors) in his own RZ that led to two quick Houston tds and completely changed the complexion of the game. Throw in a punt return and Indy shooting themselves in the foot with penalties every time they built momentum on a drive, and that rout was a bit misleading.
One game I missed recording was the Bear-Falcon game. Were the bears that good, or were the Falcons that bad? I'm sure Atlantas rushing line was a bit skewed as they were playing catch up, but how their running attack l
Yeah Detroit really did look strong. They flat out manhandled Tampa Bay. Only losing by 7 is flattering to the Bucs because they were smacked. The Lions defensive line is scary. Like I said earlier I don't see KC winning this game SU. Anybody can beat anyone in this league but my jaw will hit the floor if KC manages to win this game SU.
As far as Atlanta they looked really sloppy last week. I'm not sure the Bears dominated them it's just that Chicago came to play and capitalized while the Falcons played like shit. They had turnovers on offense and couldn't tackle anybody defensively, those two long screen passes were embarrassing efforts on Atlanta's part. I will be on them this week because I'm not sold on the Eagles and this is a statement game. I didn't like the middle of the Eagles defense coming in to the year and they didn't look good last week either. Who knows what would have happened if the Rams didn't get hurt. They lost their starting RB, QB, best WR, starting RT, starting Safety, and best corner last week. Jackson gashed them for that long play and even Cadillac Williams came in and ran for over 90 yards. I think the Falcons can have success pounding at these guys with Turner and Snelling which will open up the rest of the field.
And like I said this is a statement game for Atlanta. Questions are flying about Matt Ryan right now, he has to play well here. They are coming off a drubbing and the last two times they have been on national TV they lost to the Saints at home on MNF and were spanked by Green Bay in the playoff game. Atlanta made all their changes in the offseason to beat these exact type of teams. If they can't do it then cross off the Falcons because they will be finished. Interesting stat I dug up: Under Mike Smith Atlanta is 10-0 ATS after losing a game SU and failing to score 21 points. In those 10 games they have averaged 34.4 points per game and 406.2 yards of offense.
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Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:
Just heard the Patriot center is out for the season. The Pats on a season outlook have a lot of time to adapt and get things straight, but that definitely is a huge factor this weekend playing San Diego. Just another reason Im liking my SD-7 a little more.
Spent most of my morning watching Short Cuts(the greatest capping tool known to man, IMO) and a few things I picked up.....
- Detroit looked incredible Sunday. The final score and stat sheet does not do justice to the domination they laid on the Bucs. I think you mentioned earlier in the thread about possibly teasing them down and if 7 point teasers are available, I think knocking them to 2 is a smart play.
- SF looks atrocious. Seattle is a real dogshit team(although their D looked pretty good) and SFs offense was pretty sad. Their o line did little for the running game, and while their defense was pretty good, I counted a good 7-8 plays where Jackson misfired and almost any decent QB out there would have made those plays. I think I'm gonna roll with Dallas -3 next week although I still need to do some research before I fire.
- While I like Houston on a whole, that Indy rout might be a little misleading. At one point, Collins fumbled twice(both unforced errors) in his own RZ that led to two quick Houston tds and completely changed the complexion of the game. Throw in a punt return and Indy shooting themselves in the foot with penalties every time they built momentum on a drive, and that rout was a bit misleading.
One game I missed recording was the Bear-Falcon game. Were the bears that good, or were the Falcons that bad? I'm sure Atlantas rushing line was a bit skewed as they were playing catch up, but how their running attack l
Yeah Detroit really did look strong. They flat out manhandled Tampa Bay. Only losing by 7 is flattering to the Bucs because they were smacked. The Lions defensive line is scary. Like I said earlier I don't see KC winning this game SU. Anybody can beat anyone in this league but my jaw will hit the floor if KC manages to win this game SU.
As far as Atlanta they looked really sloppy last week. I'm not sure the Bears dominated them it's just that Chicago came to play and capitalized while the Falcons played like shit. They had turnovers on offense and couldn't tackle anybody defensively, those two long screen passes were embarrassing efforts on Atlanta's part. I will be on them this week because I'm not sold on the Eagles and this is a statement game. I didn't like the middle of the Eagles defense coming in to the year and they didn't look good last week either. Who knows what would have happened if the Rams didn't get hurt. They lost their starting RB, QB, best WR, starting RT, starting Safety, and best corner last week. Jackson gashed them for that long play and even Cadillac Williams came in and ran for over 90 yards. I think the Falcons can have success pounding at these guys with Turner and Snelling which will open up the rest of the field.
And like I said this is a statement game for Atlanta. Questions are flying about Matt Ryan right now, he has to play well here. They are coming off a drubbing and the last two times they have been on national TV they lost to the Saints at home on MNF and were spanked by Green Bay in the playoff game. Atlanta made all their changes in the offseason to beat these exact type of teams. If they can't do it then cross off the Falcons because they will be finished. Interesting stat I dug up: Under Mike Smith Atlanta is 10-0 ATS after losing a game SU and failing to score 21 points. In those 10 games they have averaged 34.4 points per game and 406.2 yards of offense.
This line is set based on who looked worse last week. The Colts were smashed by the Texans while the Browns lost at home to the Bengals. My question is this: Did the Colts really look worse than Cleveland last week? Most people thought Indy would stink without Manning and winning in Houston against a much improved and motivated opponent would be tough. It really isn't that surprising they got killed. Just about everything went wrong, Houston were catching tipped passes, Collins fumbled twice deep in his own territory leading to scores, and Houston even got a punt return TD. That was all bad news because this Colts team just isn't built to comeback from being in the hole so quickly.
But the Browns were expected to win. They were at home and facing a rookie QB (then a backup) and they shit the bed. The Browns are the slowest team in the NFL and don't have a playmaker anywhere on the field on either side of the ball. This team has no business being road favorites. They needed a play bad last week against Cincy but they just don't have anyone to go to.
The Colts will probably only win 6 games max this year not necessarily because Manning is worth that much but because this is a team loaded with veterans that knows they will be going nowhere this season. They are 1 game in and know that they are done. They are going to mail in a lot of games later in the year but this won't be one of them. The Colts are considered the worst team in the league right now and are being trashed and made fun of everywhere. I think these vets come out in their home opener and play well looking to show that they weren't just being carried by Manning all these years. This is a much better matchup too because Cleveland won't run out in front and the Colts won't have to play catchup which they aren't suited for.
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Indianapolis +2.5
This line is set based on who looked worse last week. The Colts were smashed by the Texans while the Browns lost at home to the Bengals. My question is this: Did the Colts really look worse than Cleveland last week? Most people thought Indy would stink without Manning and winning in Houston against a much improved and motivated opponent would be tough. It really isn't that surprising they got killed. Just about everything went wrong, Houston were catching tipped passes, Collins fumbled twice deep in his own territory leading to scores, and Houston even got a punt return TD. That was all bad news because this Colts team just isn't built to comeback from being in the hole so quickly.
But the Browns were expected to win. They were at home and facing a rookie QB (then a backup) and they shit the bed. The Browns are the slowest team in the NFL and don't have a playmaker anywhere on the field on either side of the ball. This team has no business being road favorites. They needed a play bad last week against Cincy but they just don't have anyone to go to.
The Colts will probably only win 6 games max this year not necessarily because Manning is worth that much but because this is a team loaded with veterans that knows they will be going nowhere this season. They are 1 game in and know that they are done. They are going to mail in a lot of games later in the year but this won't be one of them. The Colts are considered the worst team in the league right now and are being trashed and made fun of everywhere. I think these vets come out in their home opener and play well looking to show that they weren't just being carried by Manning all these years. This is a much better matchup too because Cleveland won't run out in front and the Colts won't have to play catchup which they aren't suited for.
Atl, took +120 at stations casino here in lv, I will not need pts in this game, Vick smacked around the Falcons last year so he got his revenge, Falcs get theres not this time.
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Atl, took +120 at stations casino here in lv, I will not need pts in this game, Vick smacked around the Falcons last year so he got his revenge, Falcs get theres not this time.
andarmac good shit on Pitt brother. Love the view points and fully agree with the play. I wanna hammer it but we all know thats just dumb anything can happen but Pitt should clearly domintate on both sides of the ball.
Detroit is a perfect teaser play at 8 or 8.5 crossing all the key numbers is crucial and unless K.C. got a lot better in a week they are not ready for my boys. We are better on both sides of the ball than Buffalo.
Love Indy on a teaser too. They should win but getting the 8.5 is nice and should assure a cover. Cleveland is pathetic.
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andarmac good shit on Pitt brother. Love the view points and fully agree with the play. I wanna hammer it but we all know thats just dumb anything can happen but Pitt should clearly domintate on both sides of the ball.
Detroit is a perfect teaser play at 8 or 8.5 crossing all the key numbers is crucial and unless K.C. got a lot better in a week they are not ready for my boys. We are better on both sides of the ball than Buffalo.
Love Indy on a teaser too. They should win but getting the 8.5 is nice and should assure a cover. Cleveland is pathetic.
DET: Talked about them earlier. They are a real up and coming team that matches up very well with KC. The Cheifs are a mess right now, there will be times down the road to support this team but I don't think this is it. Maybe KC sneaks in a cover on the inflated spread but I will be surprised if they beat a good Lions team in their home opener in front of what will be a very enthusiastic crowd.
NO: Despite the Bears whipping Atlanta I'm still not sold. I mentioned this last week but their defense was shredded against anyone with an offensive pulse last year and I think the jury is still out.
This is a real bad matchup for a bad Bears offensive line too. The Bears line gave up 4 sacks last week despite not ever trailing in the game and struggled to block in the run game. This unit has the same problems as last year and now they go into the loudest dome in the league to face a very exotic blitzing defense. Good luck to Cutler because he could get destroyed. The Saints gave up 6, 10, 13, and 14 points after giving up 30+ in a game last year.
If the Saints can contain the screen game they could win big. No Colston is a concern, Moore may play but I still think the Saints have enough weapons.
I will be on Washington and maybe Buffalo, just waiting for better lines.
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Two team teaser: Detroit -2.5 & New Orleans pk
DET: Talked about them earlier. They are a real up and coming team that matches up very well with KC. The Cheifs are a mess right now, there will be times down the road to support this team but I don't think this is it. Maybe KC sneaks in a cover on the inflated spread but I will be surprised if they beat a good Lions team in their home opener in front of what will be a very enthusiastic crowd.
NO: Despite the Bears whipping Atlanta I'm still not sold. I mentioned this last week but their defense was shredded against anyone with an offensive pulse last year and I think the jury is still out.
This is a real bad matchup for a bad Bears offensive line too. The Bears line gave up 4 sacks last week despite not ever trailing in the game and struggled to block in the run game. This unit has the same problems as last year and now they go into the loudest dome in the league to face a very exotic blitzing defense. Good luck to Cutler because he could get destroyed. The Saints gave up 6, 10, 13, and 14 points after giving up 30+ in a game last year.
If the Saints can contain the screen game they could win big. No Colston is a concern, Moore may play but I still think the Saints have enough weapons.
I will be on Washington and maybe Buffalo, just waiting for better lines.
I'm not ready to give the Redskins too much credit for a win against a Giants team that is shot in the secondary, top pass rusher out, sporting a somewhat revamped offensive line and a WR corps that has no skilled TE's and one consistent legitimate threat (Nicks) who happened to get a little banged up early in the game. Manningham is ok but teams don't gameplan for him. As a team, Washington ran for 74 or 75 yards. The game was closer than what the scoreboard said. Giants gave the game away with a pick 6 and penalities as much as the Redskins earned it. Personally, I wasn't impressed with either team.
I didn't catch the Cards game so I've got no opinion there.
Good luck.
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I'm not ready to give the Redskins too much credit for a win against a Giants team that is shot in the secondary, top pass rusher out, sporting a somewhat revamped offensive line and a WR corps that has no skilled TE's and one consistent legitimate threat (Nicks) who happened to get a little banged up early in the game. Manningham is ok but teams don't gameplan for him. As a team, Washington ran for 74 or 75 yards. The game was closer than what the scoreboard said. Giants gave the game away with a pick 6 and penalities as much as the Redskins earned it. Personally, I wasn't impressed with either team.
I didn't catch the Cards game so I've got no opinion there.
Hey Mac, in the long run do you really think those 2 points are worth it over just taking the ML?
Btw, don't really disagree with anything you're saying...we'll have a lot of the same plays this weekend. 'Zona and that defense are definitely fade material on the road
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
Atlanta +2
Green Bay/Carolina UNDER 47 (-112)
For reasons discussed above.
Hey Mac, in the long run do you really think those 2 points are worth it over just taking the ML?
Btw, don't really disagree with anything you're saying...we'll have a lot of the same plays this weekend. 'Zona and that defense are definitely fade material on the road
i was about to lock in the Bears but I realized Olin Kreutz longtime ex Bear is the Saints Center. With a long layoff to study I think the Bears will have a really tough time winning that one since Kreutz would really know the ins-outs of the Bears team.
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i was about to lock in the Bears but I realized Olin Kreutz longtime ex Bear is the Saints Center. With a long layoff to study I think the Bears will have a really tough time winning that one since Kreutz would really know the ins-outs of the Bears team.
I'm not ready to give the Redskins too much credit for a win against a Giants team that is shot in the secondary, top pass rusher out, sporting a somewhat revamped offensive line and a WR corps that has no skilled TE's and one consistent legitimate threat (Nicks) who happened to get a little banged up early in the game. Manningham is ok but teams don't gameplan for him. As a team, Washington ran for 74 or 75 yards. The game was closer than what the scoreboard said. Giants gave the game away with a pick 6 and penalities as much as the Redskins earned it. Personally, I wasn't impressed with either team.
I didn't catch the Cards game so I've got no opinion there.
Good luck.
Good points. This is much more of a play against Arizona in this spot than it is on Washington. I do think the Skins have improved though, maybe not as good as the final score indicated last week but they are a lot better and have a good attitude. There is a winning atmosphere there with a lot of under the radar players looking to make a name for themselves. This isn't your typical Dan Snyder team full of overpaid stiffs who don't give a shit. Shanahan tried to give the players Monday off but everyone showed up anyway to watch film. I love stuff like that and I think this team has a great attitude. This could be looked at as a flat spot for Washington off a big win against a division opponent and a road game @ Dallas on MNF next week but I think it's a little too early in the season for that. Things really start to change after the first 4 games in that regard.
Even though the Giants defense was a mess last week I think they are better than the awful unit Arizona currently sports. Like I said before I will fade a defense this bad in this price range on the road the entire year. I don't think the Cards are going to be able to stop anybody.
Good to see you back Clutch.
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Quote Originally Posted by -Clutch:
I'm not ready to give the Redskins too much credit for a win against a Giants team that is shot in the secondary, top pass rusher out, sporting a somewhat revamped offensive line and a WR corps that has no skilled TE's and one consistent legitimate threat (Nicks) who happened to get a little banged up early in the game. Manningham is ok but teams don't gameplan for him. As a team, Washington ran for 74 or 75 yards. The game was closer than what the scoreboard said. Giants gave the game away with a pick 6 and penalities as much as the Redskins earned it. Personally, I wasn't impressed with either team.
I didn't catch the Cards game so I've got no opinion there.
Good luck.
Good points. This is much more of a play against Arizona in this spot than it is on Washington. I do think the Skins have improved though, maybe not as good as the final score indicated last week but they are a lot better and have a good attitude. There is a winning atmosphere there with a lot of under the radar players looking to make a name for themselves. This isn't your typical Dan Snyder team full of overpaid stiffs who don't give a shit. Shanahan tried to give the players Monday off but everyone showed up anyway to watch film. I love stuff like that and I think this team has a great attitude. This could be looked at as a flat spot for Washington off a big win against a division opponent and a road game @ Dallas on MNF next week but I think it's a little too early in the season for that. Things really start to change after the first 4 games in that regard.
Even though the Giants defense was a mess last week I think they are better than the awful unit Arizona currently sports. Like I said before I will fade a defense this bad in this price range on the road the entire year. I don't think the Cards are going to be able to stop anybody.
i was about to lock in the Bears but I realized Olin Kreutz longtime ex Bear is the Saints Center. With a long layoff to study I think the Bears will have a really tough time winning that one since Kreutz would really know the ins-outs of the Bears team.
It's tough to lay the points here but I do think the Saints win the game. I just have a feeling this Bears offensive line is in for a very long day as I believe Williams will pull out all the stops after giving up 42 and looking like shit on national TV last week.
Saints are also 10-1 SU & ATS off a loss since 2008 excluding the last two weeks of the year.
GL buddy.
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Quote Originally Posted by mtbaker:
i was about to lock in the Bears but I realized Olin Kreutz longtime ex Bear is the Saints Center. With a long layoff to study I think the Bears will have a really tough time winning that one since Kreutz would really know the ins-outs of the Bears team.
It's tough to lay the points here but I do think the Saints win the game. I just have a feeling this Bears offensive line is in for a very long day as I believe Williams will pull out all the stops after giving up 42 and looking like shit on national TV last week.
Saints are also 10-1 SU & ATS off a loss since 2008 excluding the last two weeks of the year.
Thanks. The Redskins do seem more motivated and focused than they've appeared in quite some time. And the fact that Snyder has finally taken a step back and allowed his coach to just do his job without the distraction of an owner looking over his shoulder certainly doesn't hurt either. I'm still not ready to bet the Redskins but I definintely won't be backing the Cardinals.
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Thanks. The Redskins do seem more motivated and focused than they've appeared in quite some time. And the fact that Snyder has finally taken a step back and allowed his coach to just do his job without the distraction of an owner looking over his shoulder certainly doesn't hurt either. I'm still not ready to bet the Redskins but I definintely won't be backing the Cardinals.
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