That Seatle o-line might be the worst in the NFL and tjack just can't get rid of the football quickly.
Kid is going to get killed this week
San fran's ultra conservative play calling definitely made it easier on the Seahawks defense but with Red Bryant back there after his season ending injury ly makes a huge difference.
Earl Thomas might be the best safety in the NFL. U notice the guy nearly every play.
12.5 was a nice grab
Seahawks won't score more than 10 PTs.
Their defense is definitely the best in the NFC west tho.
Good stuff. I disagree on Seattle's defense but I think this will be a truck job.
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Quote Originally Posted by Flutiemaniac341:
That Seatle o-line might be the worst in the NFL and tjack just can't get rid of the football quickly.
Kid is going to get killed this week
San fran's ultra conservative play calling definitely made it easier on the Seahawks defense but with Red Bryant back there after his season ending injury ly makes a huge difference.
Earl Thomas might be the best safety in the NFL. U notice the guy nearly every play.
12.5 was a nice grab
Seahawks won't score more than 10 PTs.
Their defense is definitely the best in the NFC west tho.
Good stuff. I disagree on Seattle's defense but I think this will be a truck job.
I got shit-kicked in Week 1. Misread several games badly. San Diego and Denver had their chances but St. Louis, Atlanta, and Tampa were dead wrong sides. I lost all the games I liked way back in the summer. Maybe I am better off waiting til a week or two before the season starts to look at them. I actually love the card again this week and will have about 6-8 bets.
I noticed the games I do huge writeups on tend to lose often too. I'm gonna try to cut down on those, they take a long time to write and I don't have as much time this fall. Gonna have a few bad weeks per year hopefully I got one out of the way early.
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YTD: 2-5
I got shit-kicked in Week 1. Misread several games badly. San Diego and Denver had their chances but St. Louis, Atlanta, and Tampa were dead wrong sides. I lost all the games I liked way back in the summer. Maybe I am better off waiting til a week or two before the season starts to look at them. I actually love the card again this week and will have about 6-8 bets.
I noticed the games I do huge writeups on tend to lose often too. I'm gonna try to cut down on those, they take a long time to write and I don't have as much time this fall. Gonna have a few bad weeks per year hopefully I got one out of the way early.
Somebody tell me why teasing the Lions down is a bad move.
Does anyone actually see Kansas City winning the game SU?
I know the Lions are in a new role as favorites and are expected to get it done here but weren't they kind of in a similar role last week where they were expected to play well this year?
The Chiefs are a mess. Moeaki goes down a couple of weeks ago and then they lose Berry last week. That is two of their Top 5 players gone just like that. Team moral has to be low. This is a bad matchup too as they go into Detroit for the Lions home opener. I don't see a letup from Detroit. The crowd is going to be electric and they will be tough to beat at home all year. Kansas City is a running team and that's tough against a Top 5 defensive line. The Lions will be vulnerable against top tier QB's but not against the likes of Matt Cassel and his one weapon in Dwayne Bowe. It's going to be a long year in KC. Lions have the better offense and defense and are in the better spot.
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Somebody tell me why teasing the Lions down is a bad move.
Does anyone actually see Kansas City winning the game SU?
I know the Lions are in a new role as favorites and are expected to get it done here but weren't they kind of in a similar role last week where they were expected to play well this year?
The Chiefs are a mess. Moeaki goes down a couple of weeks ago and then they lose Berry last week. That is two of their Top 5 players gone just like that. Team moral has to be low. This is a bad matchup too as they go into Detroit for the Lions home opener. I don't see a letup from Detroit. The crowd is going to be electric and they will be tough to beat at home all year. Kansas City is a running team and that's tough against a Top 5 defensive line. The Lions will be vulnerable against top tier QB's but not against the likes of Matt Cassel and his one weapon in Dwayne Bowe. It's going to be a long year in KC. Lions have the better offense and defense and are in the better spot.
Oh there's no question it is tough to lay this much but this game has all the ingredients needed for a blowout.
1. Pittsburgh has a big play quick-strike offense. This team is loaded with young receivers and threw it deep many times in the preseason and they should be able to here against a bad Seattle defense. I don't see this as a game where they hand it off 40 times, play D and win by 10.
2. Pittsburgh's defense should play a lot better. Maybe they have taken a step back and aged a little but is that going to show up against Seattle? These guys are 14-5 ATS under Lebeau with Polamalu playing at home off a SU loss surrendering 21+ points. They've only given up an average of 14 points in those games and most came against teams better than Seattle. The Seahawks won't be able to run and like I said before if Tavaris Jackson leads this offense to 10 points it will be quite the accomplishment. Jackson sucked yesterday. He completed 57% of his passes for a pathetic 5.3 YPA and that was despite a 55 yard TD where the receiver had about 50 yards after the catch.
3. Bad spot for Seattle. 1:00 game out east against a team that I believe will look to beat somebody up. The Seahawks lost by 16 on the road in Week 1 and their road losses last year came by 17, 17, 30, 15, 19, 23, and 11. Pittsburgh was also 4-0 ATS as a home fav of over a TD last year winning and covering as -9, -9, -14, and -14 with three of those games coming after a loss. The Seahawks know they aren't going to win this game, if they get down big I think they throw in the towel as they've done so many times on the road and look to keep everyone healthy for their home open next week against division rival Arizona.
4. The chance of a backdoor cover is greatly reduced. It's tough to lay more than a FG against a good offense because they generally are very capable of getting a garbage time TD. But I don't see that at all with this Seattle offense that is going to be one of the worst in the league. Many mediocre QB's have been benched against Lebeau's schemes in the past because they were too tough to read. Jackson might not even finish the game.
Blow. Out. City.
I couldn't agree more. I was thinking about all of this on Monday and told myself I'd bet the Steelers hard if they opened at -14 or less. I saw -14 & -14.5, so I locked in at -14. Glad to see you thinking along the same lines.
I also got Atlanta at +3. I think they come out and roll as well in their home opener.
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
Oh there's no question it is tough to lay this much but this game has all the ingredients needed for a blowout.
1. Pittsburgh has a big play quick-strike offense. This team is loaded with young receivers and threw it deep many times in the preseason and they should be able to here against a bad Seattle defense. I don't see this as a game where they hand it off 40 times, play D and win by 10.
2. Pittsburgh's defense should play a lot better. Maybe they have taken a step back and aged a little but is that going to show up against Seattle? These guys are 14-5 ATS under Lebeau with Polamalu playing at home off a SU loss surrendering 21+ points. They've only given up an average of 14 points in those games and most came against teams better than Seattle. The Seahawks won't be able to run and like I said before if Tavaris Jackson leads this offense to 10 points it will be quite the accomplishment. Jackson sucked yesterday. He completed 57% of his passes for a pathetic 5.3 YPA and that was despite a 55 yard TD where the receiver had about 50 yards after the catch.
3. Bad spot for Seattle. 1:00 game out east against a team that I believe will look to beat somebody up. The Seahawks lost by 16 on the road in Week 1 and their road losses last year came by 17, 17, 30, 15, 19, 23, and 11. Pittsburgh was also 4-0 ATS as a home fav of over a TD last year winning and covering as -9, -9, -14, and -14 with three of those games coming after a loss. The Seahawks know they aren't going to win this game, if they get down big I think they throw in the towel as they've done so many times on the road and look to keep everyone healthy for their home open next week against division rival Arizona.
4. The chance of a backdoor cover is greatly reduced. It's tough to lay more than a FG against a good offense because they generally are very capable of getting a garbage time TD. But I don't see that at all with this Seattle offense that is going to be one of the worst in the league. Many mediocre QB's have been benched against Lebeau's schemes in the past because they were too tough to read. Jackson might not even finish the game.
Blow. Out. City.
I couldn't agree more. I was thinking about all of this on Monday and told myself I'd bet the Steelers hard if they opened at -14 or less. I saw -14 & -14.5, so I locked in at -14. Glad to see you thinking along the same lines.
I also got Atlanta at +3. I think they come out and roll as well in their home opener.
Don't chase on San Diego's tough non-cover especially in New Engand's home opener after Myra Kraft just passed away....stay the F away guys....just my .02
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Don't chase on San Diego's tough non-cover especially in New Engand's home opener after Myra Kraft just passed away....stay the F away guys....just my .02
So did I even after that fisting the Chargers gave me last week. I actually think that was a good game from the Chargers. An unbelievable sequence of bullshit was required for the Vikings to come. I'm not gonna go over it but it was a tough loss. Most importantly San Diego showed me a ton of resiliency. Yes they did have their fuckups in the 1st half but if this was last year they would have lost that game SU no question. Instead they came out after halftime kept their composure and were all business as they just dominated the game. It really showed me a lot and maybe they have changed after all.
I'm still not sold on New England's defense. I think Rivers will have success. This is a very balanced San Diego offense and they should be able to score. The Chargers stink as favs and fuck up almost every game in that role but they are pretty good as underdogs. If you bet the Chargers blindly as a dog every season Rivers was the starter you'd be up money at the end of every year. They are 12-6 ATS over that run as dogs and only 1 time under Rivers in the regular season have they been a +7 dog (won the game outright). Is being up the Dolphins on Monday Night really worth this much? I was expecting 3.5 or 4 max but 7? I could be wrong but this isn't the 2007 Pats all over again, their defense isn't nearly that good.
as long as rivers doesn't beat himself, it's a toss-up in my book.
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
So did I even after that fisting the Chargers gave me last week. I actually think that was a good game from the Chargers. An unbelievable sequence of bullshit was required for the Vikings to come. I'm not gonna go over it but it was a tough loss. Most importantly San Diego showed me a ton of resiliency. Yes they did have their fuckups in the 1st half but if this was last year they would have lost that game SU no question. Instead they came out after halftime kept their composure and were all business as they just dominated the game. It really showed me a lot and maybe they have changed after all.
I'm still not sold on New England's defense. I think Rivers will have success. This is a very balanced San Diego offense and they should be able to score. The Chargers stink as favs and fuck up almost every game in that role but they are pretty good as underdogs. If you bet the Chargers blindly as a dog every season Rivers was the starter you'd be up money at the end of every year. They are 12-6 ATS over that run as dogs and only 1 time under Rivers in the regular season have they been a +7 dog (won the game outright). Is being up the Dolphins on Monday Night really worth this much? I was expecting 3.5 or 4 max but 7? I could be wrong but this isn't the 2007 Pats all over again, their defense isn't nearly that good.
as long as rivers doesn't beat himself, it's a toss-up in my book.
I got shit-kicked in Week 1. Misread several games badly. San Diego and Denver had their chances but St. Louis, Atlanta, and Tampa were dead wrong sides. I lost all the games I liked way back in the summer. Maybe I am better off waiting til a week or two before the season starts to look at them. I actually love the card again this week and will have about 6-8 bets.
I noticed the games I do huge writeups on tend to lose often too. I'm gonna try to cut down on those, they take a long time to write and I don't have as much time this fall. Gonna have a few bad weeks per year hopefully I got one out of the way early.
I dont think you were dead wrong about the Rams. Theres no way to predict all the injuries they had on both sides of the ball, and they were in the game until late 4th quarter....
I took Seattle +14.5. SF had 2 punt returns in a minute or Seattle has a good chance to win that game. Pitt should be fired up, but Big Ben is too old now and the bullshit he used to do in 2007 is now turning into ints....
gl either way bro
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
YTD: 2-5
I got shit-kicked in Week 1. Misread several games badly. San Diego and Denver had their chances but St. Louis, Atlanta, and Tampa were dead wrong sides. I lost all the games I liked way back in the summer. Maybe I am better off waiting til a week or two before the season starts to look at them. I actually love the card again this week and will have about 6-8 bets.
I noticed the games I do huge writeups on tend to lose often too. I'm gonna try to cut down on those, they take a long time to write and I don't have as much time this fall. Gonna have a few bad weeks per year hopefully I got one out of the way early.
I dont think you were dead wrong about the Rams. Theres no way to predict all the injuries they had on both sides of the ball, and they were in the game until late 4th quarter....
I took Seattle +14.5. SF had 2 punt returns in a minute or Seattle has a good chance to win that game. Pitt should be fired up, but Big Ben is too old now and the bullshit he used to do in 2007 is now turning into ints....
I chalk the Steelers ass-whipping last week to a focused and fired-up Ravens team who were looking to exact revenge for the Steelers' recent dominance of the series. The Steelers are a veteran team, and Tomlin will make sure they come back focused and determined to defend their home turf and to get their first W of the season.
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Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
...but Big Ben is too old now...
too old? Ben doesn't turn 30 until next March...
I chalk the Steelers ass-whipping last week to a focused and fired-up Ravens team who were looking to exact revenge for the Steelers' recent dominance of the series. The Steelers are a veteran team, and Tomlin will make sure they come back focused and determined to defend their home turf and to get their first W of the season.
I tend to agree with this. Every year in week 2 we make too much of the week 1 results because it's all we have to go on. I can't see KC winning the game outright, but a cover wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Quote Originally Posted by MJ2345:
Too much credit to Det after 1 game.KC +9.5.
I tend to agree with this. Every year in week 2 we make too much of the week 1 results because it's all we have to go on. I can't see KC winning the game outright, but a cover wouldn't surprise me at all.
Don't chase on San Diego's tough non-cover especially in New Engand's home opener after Myra Kraft just passed away....stay the F away guys....just my .02
Did the Jets cover the spread with the 911 anniversary in New York? Mr Krafts wife has nothing to do with this football game!
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Quote Originally Posted by SCROG:
Don't chase on San Diego's tough non-cover especially in New Engand's home opener after Myra Kraft just passed away....stay the F away guys....just my .02
Did the Jets cover the spread with the 911 anniversary in New York? Mr Krafts wife has nothing to do with this football game!
I'm still fuming how SD didn't cover that game...cost me a big bet. How does your QB throw for 39 yards and you're remotely in a game. Unbelieveable...oh well time to bounce back...love Pitt this week and believe we see a simillar score to your prediction. GL this week big fella...I know you'll bounce back!
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I'm still fuming how SD didn't cover that game...cost me a big bet. How does your QB throw for 39 yards and you're remotely in a game. Unbelieveable...oh well time to bounce back...love Pitt this week and believe we see a simillar score to your prediction. GL this week big fella...I know you'll bounce back!
Just heard the Patriot center is out for the season. The Pats on a season outlook have a lot of time to adapt and get things straight, but that definitely is a huge factor this weekend playing San Diego. Just another reason Im liking my SD-7 a little more.
Spent most of my morning watching Short Cuts(the greatest capping tool known to man, IMO) and a few things I picked up.....
- Detroit looked incredible Sunday. The final score and stat sheet does not do justice to the domination they laid on the Bucs. I think you mentioned earlier in the thread about possibly teasing them down and if 7 point teasers are available, I think knocking them to 2 is a smart play.
- SF looks atrocious. Seattle is a real dogshit team(although their D looked pretty good) and SFs offense was pretty sad. Their o line did little for the running game, and while their defense was pretty good, I counted a good 7-8 plays where Jackson misfired and almost any decent QB out there would have made those plays. I think I'm gonna roll with Dallas -3 next week although I still need to do some research before I fire.
- While I like Houston on a whole, that Indy rout might be a little misleading. At one point, Collins fumbled twice(both unforced errors) in his own RZ that led to two quick Houston tds and completely changed the complexion of the game. Throw in a punt return and Indy shooting themselves in the foot with penalties every time they built momentum on a drive, and that rout was a bit misleading.
One game I missed recording was the Bear-Falcon game. Were the bears that good, or were the Falcons that bad? I'm sure Atlantas rushing line was a bit skewed as they were playing catch up, but how their running attack l
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Just heard the Patriot center is out for the season. The Pats on a season outlook have a lot of time to adapt and get things straight, but that definitely is a huge factor this weekend playing San Diego. Just another reason Im liking my SD-7 a little more.
Spent most of my morning watching Short Cuts(the greatest capping tool known to man, IMO) and a few things I picked up.....
- Detroit looked incredible Sunday. The final score and stat sheet does not do justice to the domination they laid on the Bucs. I think you mentioned earlier in the thread about possibly teasing them down and if 7 point teasers are available, I think knocking them to 2 is a smart play.
- SF looks atrocious. Seattle is a real dogshit team(although their D looked pretty good) and SFs offense was pretty sad. Their o line did little for the running game, and while their defense was pretty good, I counted a good 7-8 plays where Jackson misfired and almost any decent QB out there would have made those plays. I think I'm gonna roll with Dallas -3 next week although I still need to do some research before I fire.
- While I like Houston on a whole, that Indy rout might be a little misleading. At one point, Collins fumbled twice(both unforced errors) in his own RZ that led to two quick Houston tds and completely changed the complexion of the game. Throw in a punt return and Indy shooting themselves in the foot with penalties every time they built momentum on a drive, and that rout was a bit misleading.
One game I missed recording was the Bear-Falcon game. Were the bears that good, or were the Falcons that bad? I'm sure Atlantas rushing line was a bit skewed as they were playing catch up, but how their running attack l
.......how was the Atlanta rushing attack before the game got out of hand?
- It is easy to fall into the Cam Newton hype after seeing his stat line and ESPN lackeys blowing him the last few days, but I just watched that game and Newton was really good. Arizona played a really nice rounded game on offense and have nothing to be embarrassed about, but Carolina really should have won that game. Newton was poised in the pocket, always had his eyes downfield even on the few plays he took off and ran, and made some incredible throws both in the pocket and on the move. As the game progressed, Arizona threw the kitchen sink at him with different blitz packages, and Newton was up to the task. Very impressive. Green Bay obviously is a much better defensive squad than Zona, but they didn't show me much against the Saints and unless Capers really confuses the young QB on Sunday, I gotta wonder if Newton can't put up some points. Andy, what do you think of that game? Let's assume the line creeps to the 10.5/11 area.
Speaking of line movement, where do you think the Dallas line moves to? I'm itchy to bang out the Cowboys now, but that little hook will make the world of difference if it creeps to 3.5, and I don't want to miss out on the available 3 right now.
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.......how was the Atlanta rushing attack before the game got out of hand?
- It is easy to fall into the Cam Newton hype after seeing his stat line and ESPN lackeys blowing him the last few days, but I just watched that game and Newton was really good. Arizona played a really nice rounded game on offense and have nothing to be embarrassed about, but Carolina really should have won that game. Newton was poised in the pocket, always had his eyes downfield even on the few plays he took off and ran, and made some incredible throws both in the pocket and on the move. As the game progressed, Arizona threw the kitchen sink at him with different blitz packages, and Newton was up to the task. Very impressive. Green Bay obviously is a much better defensive squad than Zona, but they didn't show me much against the Saints and unless Capers really confuses the young QB on Sunday, I gotta wonder if Newton can't put up some points. Andy, what do you think of that game? Let's assume the line creeps to the 10.5/11 area.
Speaking of line movement, where do you think the Dallas line moves to? I'm itchy to bang out the Cowboys now, but that little hook will make the world of difference if it creeps to 3.5, and I don't want to miss out on the available 3 right now.
Umm.....yeah. Should read: An unbelievable sequence of bullshit was required for the Vikings to cover.
Forget the Harvin TD, forget the two Rivers turnovers in the red zone, the thing that ate me up the most was losing Kaeding on the opening kickoff, and SD going for it instead of kicking a fairly easy FG in the 2nd quarter. They went for it and got stopped and that was the cover right there.
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
Umm.....yeah. Should read: An unbelievable sequence of bullshit was required for the Vikings to cover.
Forget the Harvin TD, forget the two Rivers turnovers in the red zone, the thing that ate me up the most was losing Kaeding on the opening kickoff, and SD going for it instead of kicking a fairly easy FG in the 2nd quarter. They went for it and got stopped and that was the cover right there.
Did the Jets cover the spread with the 911 anniversary in New York? Mr Krafts wife has nothing to do with this football game!
I tend to agree with PTB here. I can't imagine some old bag biting the dust meaning ANYTHING to professional football players in the NFL. My bosses wife shits the bed and all that means to us workers is a mini vacation while the douchebag is out on bereavement. And even if there was a death to a player or coaches wife and emotions even remotely played into it, I still don't think it matters much in the end, because I have seen more teams lose than win in ultra emotional spots.
Not a factor, imo.
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Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:
Did the Jets cover the spread with the 911 anniversary in New York? Mr Krafts wife has nothing to do with this football game!
I tend to agree with PTB here. I can't imagine some old bag biting the dust meaning ANYTHING to professional football players in the NFL. My bosses wife shits the bed and all that means to us workers is a mini vacation while the douchebag is out on bereavement. And even if there was a death to a player or coaches wife and emotions even remotely played into it, I still don't think it matters much in the end, because I have seen more teams lose than win in ultra emotional spots.
Just locked Dallas -3. Honestly, I don't see the line moving anywhere, but IF it does move, I would think it creeps against me to 3.5 or 4.
Dallas played a very good game on the road against a stout Jets team Sunday and really deserved to walk out of there with a win. It seems like the entire world has deemed Tony Romo the scapegoat there, and yes that INT was unacceptable, but there was more to that collapse than his two bad plays. The defense was content to be ultra conservative pretty much since the 3rd quarter, Garrett called some douchey plays on 1st and goal late in the game(they should have just pounded it in instead of being cute and then maybe Romo doesn't fumble), and the blocked punt for a TD was brutal.
So Dallas is gonna fly out to SF ready to kill. Romo is taking a beating from all angles(a lot of it undeserved) and he is gonna come out with a major chip on his shoulder. As I mentioned earlier, SF looked pretty fucking bad against Seattle. They generated nothing on the ground against Seattle, so I can't see them doing much against Dallas. That leaves Alex Smith to win the game and judging by offense last week, I really don't think him dropping back, instantly being pressured, and then throw 3 yard passes all game is gonna do much.
I can see a Dallas slaughter here.
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Just locked Dallas -3. Honestly, I don't see the line moving anywhere, but IF it does move, I would think it creeps against me to 3.5 or 4.
Dallas played a very good game on the road against a stout Jets team Sunday and really deserved to walk out of there with a win. It seems like the entire world has deemed Tony Romo the scapegoat there, and yes that INT was unacceptable, but there was more to that collapse than his two bad plays. The defense was content to be ultra conservative pretty much since the 3rd quarter, Garrett called some douchey plays on 1st and goal late in the game(they should have just pounded it in instead of being cute and then maybe Romo doesn't fumble), and the blocked punt for a TD was brutal.
So Dallas is gonna fly out to SF ready to kill. Romo is taking a beating from all angles(a lot of it undeserved) and he is gonna come out with a major chip on his shoulder. As I mentioned earlier, SF looked pretty fucking bad against Seattle. They generated nothing on the ground against Seattle, so I can't see them doing much against Dallas. That leaves Alex Smith to win the game and judging by offense last week, I really don't think him dropping back, instantly being pressured, and then throw 3 yard passes all game is gonna do much.
Just locked Dallas -3. Honestly, I don't see the line moving anywhere, but IF it does move, I would think it creeps against me to 3.5 or 4.
Dallas played a very good game on the road against a stout Jets team Sunday and really deserved to walk out of there with a win. It seems like the entire world has deemed Tony Romo the scapegoat there, and yes that INT was unacceptable, but there was more to that collapse than his two bad plays. The defense was content to be ultra conservative pretty much since the 3rd quarter, Garrett called some douchey plays on 1st and goal late in the game(they should have just pounded it in instead of being cute and then maybe Romo doesn't fumble), and the blocked punt for a TD was brutal.
So Dallas is gonna fly out to SF ready to kill. Romo is taking a beating from all angles(a lot of it undeserved) and he is gonna come out with a major chip on his shoulder. As I mentioned earlier, SF looked pretty fucking bad against Seattle. They generated nothing on the ground against Seattle, so I can't see them doing much against Dallas. That leaves Alex Smith to win the game and judging by offense last week, I really don't think him dropping back, instantly being pressured, and then throw 3 yard passes all game is gonna do much.
I can see a Dallas slaughter here.
I agree with you here bro. It's just tough for me to back road favs. This isn't like last year where the Cowboys offensive line was dogshit and caused them to play an ultra conservative and ultimately too conservative to win in Washington. They came away from that Week 1 loss last year knowing they had major problems. I don't see the same thing this time around and I think they can take a lot of positives from Week 1 where they probably win that game 8.5/10 if not for some bad turnovers and a blocked punt. They had a potential Super Bowl team by the balls. I think they come away saying "Hey we might be pretty good". Last year they had lots of expectations on them too which = pressure. This year not so much and I think it showed in Week 1, they looked really loose and relaxed.
Most importantly perhaps is the fact they started 0-2 last year and it sent them into a disastrous year. I'm sure they will bring it this week to avoid the exact same thing this time around. They haven't waited a whole year to fuck this up again and hit the repeat button. As for San Fran........well I'm not seeing much. They had their hands full with Seattle last week before the two kick returns....Seattle!
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Quote Originally Posted by glyde69:
Just locked Dallas -3. Honestly, I don't see the line moving anywhere, but IF it does move, I would think it creeps against me to 3.5 or 4.
Dallas played a very good game on the road against a stout Jets team Sunday and really deserved to walk out of there with a win. It seems like the entire world has deemed Tony Romo the scapegoat there, and yes that INT was unacceptable, but there was more to that collapse than his two bad plays. The defense was content to be ultra conservative pretty much since the 3rd quarter, Garrett called some douchey plays on 1st and goal late in the game(they should have just pounded it in instead of being cute and then maybe Romo doesn't fumble), and the blocked punt for a TD was brutal.
So Dallas is gonna fly out to SF ready to kill. Romo is taking a beating from all angles(a lot of it undeserved) and he is gonna come out with a major chip on his shoulder. As I mentioned earlier, SF looked pretty fucking bad against Seattle. They generated nothing on the ground against Seattle, so I can't see them doing much against Dallas. That leaves Alex Smith to win the game and judging by offense last week, I really don't think him dropping back, instantly being pressured, and then throw 3 yard passes all game is gonna do much.
I can see a Dallas slaughter here.
I agree with you here bro. It's just tough for me to back road favs. This isn't like last year where the Cowboys offensive line was dogshit and caused them to play an ultra conservative and ultimately too conservative to win in Washington. They came away from that Week 1 loss last year knowing they had major problems. I don't see the same thing this time around and I think they can take a lot of positives from Week 1 where they probably win that game 8.5/10 if not for some bad turnovers and a blocked punt. They had a potential Super Bowl team by the balls. I think they come away saying "Hey we might be pretty good". Last year they had lots of expectations on them too which = pressure. This year not so much and I think it showed in Week 1, they looked really loose and relaxed.
Most importantly perhaps is the fact they started 0-2 last year and it sent them into a disastrous year. I'm sure they will bring it this week to avoid the exact same thing this time around. They haven't waited a whole year to fuck this up again and hit the repeat button. As for San Fran........well I'm not seeing much. They had their hands full with Seattle last week before the two kick returns....Seattle!
- It is easy to fall into the Cam Newton hype after seeing his stat line and ESPN lackeys blowing him the last few days, but I just watched that game and Newton was really good. Arizona played a really nice rounded game on offense and have nothing to be embarrassed about, but Carolina really should have won that game. Newton was poised in the pocket, always had his eyes downfield even on the few plays he took off and ran, and made some incredible throws both in the pocket and on the move. As the game progressed, Arizona threw the kitchen sink at him with different blitz packages, and Newton was up to the task. Very impressive. Green Bay obviously is a much better defensive squad than Zona, but they didn't show me much against the Saints and unless Capers really confuses the young QB on Sunday, I gotta wonder if Newton can't put up some points. Andy, what do you think of that game? Let's assume the line creeps to the 10.5/11 area.
I've been waiting all week for that Washington line to come down and am now starting to see 3.5. I will be on Washington because Arizona's defense is a joke. This is probably the worst unit along with Jacksonville in the entire league. They are fade material on the road in this price range against anybody with a pulse all season long. Cam Newton couldn't complete a pass in the preseason and now he looks like Tom Brady. Arizona was so bad against the pass last week that they will probably put more guys back there and hope the big guys can handle the run game, which of course probably won't work and I think Tim Hightower goes off against a club he feels never really gave him a fair shot.
The Redskins D looks much improved and there's no doubt in my mind they have the better unit here. The jury is still out on Kolb IMO. Arizona got 4 TD's last week, one on a punt return and two on 70 yard catch and run passes on clear blown coverages by Carolina. There was no one within 10 yards of the receivers on those throws. Heading east to play at 1:00 won't help Arizona's defense either.
As for Cam Newton I think he plunges back to earth this week. He goes from facing a horrible defense to maybe one of the league's best. Flash back to this time last week and what were the questions on Newton, Can he read defenses? Can he pick up the blitz? Can he hit the hot read when under pressure? A lot of people had their doubts and we are about to find out because Green Bay is a blitzing team that runs a lot of complex schemes. I think Capers will be far too much for the rookie. This isn't Arizona. A lot of people talk about overreactions from Week 1 to Week 2 and they talk about sides and not so much totals. Look at the total for this game. I can get Under 47 at just over -110. Last week's GB/Saints game had a total of 47.5. This week it is nearly the same. Really? Carolina? I hate betting Unders in football with a passion and almost always get fucked with a defensive or special teams TD but I love this play. Not sure about the high spread though.
Green Bay came out last week looking to prove a point after they were ripped for not holding offseason workouts and Aaron Rodgers said so in the press conference after the game. They also had to keep pressing last week because the Saints had a formidable offense and were scoring their lair share of points too. This game is a little bit of a sandwich for Green Bay after hosting the Saints and then going to Chicago next week. I don't see them coming out with the fire they had against the Saints. If they get up by a couple of scores and Carolina isn't scoring (which I don't think they will) then they'll just be content to run it out and move on to next week.
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- It is easy to fall into the Cam Newton hype after seeing his stat line and ESPN lackeys blowing him the last few days, but I just watched that game and Newton was really good. Arizona played a really nice rounded game on offense and have nothing to be embarrassed about, but Carolina really should have won that game. Newton was poised in the pocket, always had his eyes downfield even on the few plays he took off and ran, and made some incredible throws both in the pocket and on the move. As the game progressed, Arizona threw the kitchen sink at him with different blitz packages, and Newton was up to the task. Very impressive. Green Bay obviously is a much better defensive squad than Zona, but they didn't show me much against the Saints and unless Capers really confuses the young QB on Sunday, I gotta wonder if Newton can't put up some points. Andy, what do you think of that game? Let's assume the line creeps to the 10.5/11 area.
I've been waiting all week for that Washington line to come down and am now starting to see 3.5. I will be on Washington because Arizona's defense is a joke. This is probably the worst unit along with Jacksonville in the entire league. They are fade material on the road in this price range against anybody with a pulse all season long. Cam Newton couldn't complete a pass in the preseason and now he looks like Tom Brady. Arizona was so bad against the pass last week that they will probably put more guys back there and hope the big guys can handle the run game, which of course probably won't work and I think Tim Hightower goes off against a club he feels never really gave him a fair shot.
The Redskins D looks much improved and there's no doubt in my mind they have the better unit here. The jury is still out on Kolb IMO. Arizona got 4 TD's last week, one on a punt return and two on 70 yard catch and run passes on clear blown coverages by Carolina. There was no one within 10 yards of the receivers on those throws. Heading east to play at 1:00 won't help Arizona's defense either.
As for Cam Newton I think he plunges back to earth this week. He goes from facing a horrible defense to maybe one of the league's best. Flash back to this time last week and what were the questions on Newton, Can he read defenses? Can he pick up the blitz? Can he hit the hot read when under pressure? A lot of people had their doubts and we are about to find out because Green Bay is a blitzing team that runs a lot of complex schemes. I think Capers will be far too much for the rookie. This isn't Arizona. A lot of people talk about overreactions from Week 1 to Week 2 and they talk about sides and not so much totals. Look at the total for this game. I can get Under 47 at just over -110. Last week's GB/Saints game had a total of 47.5. This week it is nearly the same. Really? Carolina? I hate betting Unders in football with a passion and almost always get fucked with a defensive or special teams TD but I love this play. Not sure about the high spread though.
Green Bay came out last week looking to prove a point after they were ripped for not holding offseason workouts and Aaron Rodgers said so in the press conference after the game. They also had to keep pressing last week because the Saints had a formidable offense and were scoring their lair share of points too. This game is a little bit of a sandwich for Green Bay after hosting the Saints and then going to Chicago next week. I don't see them coming out with the fire they had against the Saints. If they get up by a couple of scores and Carolina isn't scoring (which I don't think they will) then they'll just be content to run it out and move on to next week.
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I could be wrong but this isn't the 2007 Pats all over again, their defense isn't nearly that good.
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