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    kcblitzkrieg
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2024 - 3:30 PM ET #26

    @vanzack

     Looks like some of your fan club decided to come out early this year..... knock em dead good sir an_cheers

    Time is a flat circle....
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    @vanzack

     Looks like some of your fan club decided to come out early this year..... knock em dead good sir an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2024 - 3:37 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @vanzack  Looks like some of your fan club decided to come out early this year..... knock em dead good sir

    Good to see you KC. Same to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcblitzkrieg:

    @vanzack  Looks like some of your fan club decided to come out early this year..... knock em dead good sir

    Good to see you KC. Same to you.

    peace_5

     
    tsw
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2024 - 4:11 PM ET #28

    I will be following this system closely.

     

     

    peace_5

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    I will be following this system closely.

     

     

    peace_5

     
    vanzack
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2024 - 5:28 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by tsw:

    I will be following this system closely.

    TSW

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsw:

    I will be following this system closely.

    TSW

    peace_5an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Aug. 9, 2024 - 5:46 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: @Robards    Hang time is not a factor anymore, it's all about landing the ball in the "landing zone". I haven't dug into the rules to see if any number is allowed to kick, but if there's no rules on what numbers are allowed to kick, let a quick and powerful player kick off and be the safety. Watching the kick off, the line seems to be pretty thin since everyone is spread out. That kicker spot might be a crucial last line of defense. I'm sure there are some defensive backs that can manage landing the kick off in the zone. Would much rather have speed and power as the last man than a kicker that may be looking to avoid contact. Any player is allowed to kick.  You will see non-kickers kicking off on week 1.  There is a rule that the kicker (who kicks from the -35 if there is not a penalty) cannot cross the 50 until the ball is touched, but if a receiver breaks through the 10 men who didnt kick the ball it would be very beneficial to have a guy kicking who can has speed and can make a tackle.  It is not that hard to kick a teed ball consistently between the goal line and the 10 yard line for anyone with enough practice. I do think the best kickoffs with be line drive type of kicks, that can land in the landing zone and potentially get in the end zone.  The one caveat is that the blockers for the receiving team between the 30 and 35 yard line CAN BLOCK THE KICK if it is low enough to do so.  If they do, and the ball lands outside of the landing zone, it is taken to the 40 yard line.
    So I'm thinking kick-offs are about to get a lot more exciting?  Will be interesting to see how all this pans out and how teams adjust. 

    Quote Originally Posted by PUSSYGALORE333:

    #16    YIKES .... THE 40 YD LINE .... YIKES
    That's what I was thinking! :o 

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    Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: @Robards    Hang time is not a factor anymore, it's all about landing the ball in the "landing zone". I haven't dug into the rules to see if any number is allowed to kick, but if there's no rules on what numbers are allowed to kick, let a quick and powerful player kick off and be the safety. Watching the kick off, the line seems to be pretty thin since everyone is spread out. That kicker spot might be a crucial last line of defense. I'm sure there are some defensive backs that can manage landing the kick off in the zone. Would much rather have speed and power as the last man than a kicker that may be looking to avoid contact. Any player is allowed to kick.  You will see non-kickers kicking off on week 1.  There is a rule that the kicker (who kicks from the -35 if there is not a penalty) cannot cross the 50 until the ball is touched, but if a receiver breaks through the 10 men who didnt kick the ball it would be very beneficial to have a guy kicking who can has speed and can make a tackle.  It is not that hard to kick a teed ball consistently between the goal line and the 10 yard line for anyone with enough practice. I do think the best kickoffs with be line drive type of kicks, that can land in the landing zone and potentially get in the end zone.  The one caveat is that the blockers for the receiving team between the 30 and 35 yard line CAN BLOCK THE KICK if it is low enough to do so.  If they do, and the ball lands outside of the landing zone, it is taken to the 40 yard line.
    So I'm thinking kick-offs are about to get a lot more exciting?  Will be interesting to see how all this pans out and how teams adjust. 

    Quote Originally Posted by PUSSYGALORE333:

    #16    YIKES .... THE 40 YD LINE .... YIKES
    That's what I was thinking! :o 

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2024 - 12:35 PM ET #31

    @vanzack

     My Unabated membership comes with a season simulator based on personalized power rankings. I'd love to run your rankings through the system if you do not mind sharing. 

    Please see the attached results that someone just posted on twitter. 

    Looking forward to another year of your winners. 

    https://imgur.com/a/sglgyZH

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    @vanzack

     My Unabated membership comes with a season simulator based on personalized power rankings. I'd love to run your rankings through the system if you do not mind sharing. 

    Please see the attached results that someone just posted on twitter. 

    Looking forward to another year of your winners. 

    https://imgur.com/a/sglgyZH

     
    vanzack
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2024 - 1:06 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by 4headies:

    @vanzack  My Unabated membership comes with a season simulator based on personalized power rankings. I'd love to run your rankings through the system if you do not mind sharing.  Please see the attached results that someone just posted on twitter.  Looking forward to another year of your winners.  https://imgur.com/a/sglgyZH

    I always preach on here about being a specialist and not a generalist. In other words, own one small slice of the sports gambling pie rather than trying to be a little bit knowledgeable in all of it. 

    So that being said, this is one area that I don't participate in, and my method actually against doing something like this. What I mean by that is that I make my decisions week to week and situation to situation, much more than I do with empirical season long or even weak to week power rankings. Within a given game or situation, I look at subsets of that game or gameplay to determine who I wager on, not an overall power ranking. 

    An example of that is that in a given week the Ravens could beat the best team, and lose to the worst team in a power ranking. The key to me is identifying which situation and subset of gameplay favors which team, not the overall high-level power ranking. So I never make power rankings, it's just something that is not on my radar. 

    Not to say that it's a bad thing to do or disparaging people who do it, just saying it's not what I do. Curious to see your power rankings and how this works out in this cool tool that unabated offers. 

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4headies:

    @vanzack  My Unabated membership comes with a season simulator based on personalized power rankings. I'd love to run your rankings through the system if you do not mind sharing.  Please see the attached results that someone just posted on twitter.  Looking forward to another year of your winners.  https://imgur.com/a/sglgyZH

    I always preach on here about being a specialist and not a generalist. In other words, own one small slice of the sports gambling pie rather than trying to be a little bit knowledgeable in all of it. 

    So that being said, this is one area that I don't participate in, and my method actually against doing something like this. What I mean by that is that I make my decisions week to week and situation to situation, much more than I do with empirical season long or even weak to week power rankings. Within a given game or situation, I look at subsets of that game or gameplay to determine who I wager on, not an overall power ranking. 

    An example of that is that in a given week the Ravens could beat the best team, and lose to the worst team in a power ranking. The key to me is identifying which situation and subset of gameplay favors which team, not the overall high-level power ranking. So I never make power rankings, it's just something that is not on my radar. 

    Not to say that it's a bad thing to do or disparaging people who do it, just saying it's not what I do. Curious to see your power rankings and how this works out in this cool tool that unabated offers. 

    peace_5

     
    vanzack
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2024 - 1:07 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by 4headies:

    @vanzack  My Unabated membership comes with a season simulator based on personalized power rankings. I'd love to run your rankings through the system if you do not mind sharing.  Please see the attached results that someone just posted on twitter.  Looking forward to another year of your winners.  https://imgur.com/a/sglgyZH

    I always preach on here about being a specialist and not a generalist. In other words, own one small slice of the sports gambling pie rather than trying to be a little bit knowledgeable in all of it. 

    So that being said, this is one area that I don't participate in, and my method actually against doing something like this. What I mean by that is that I make my decisions week to week and situation to situation, much more than I do with empirical season long or even weak to week power rankings. Within a given game or situation, I look at subsets of that game or gameplay to determine who I wager on, not an overall power ranking. 

    An example of that is that in a given week the Ravens could beat the best team, and lose to the worst team in a power ranking. The key to me is identifying which situation and subset of gameplay favors which team, not the overall high-level power ranking. So I never make power rankings, it's just something that is not on my radar. 

    Not to say that it's a bad thing to do or disparaging people who do it, just saying it's not what I do. Curious to see your power rankings and how this works out in this cool tool that unabated offers. 

    peace_5

    Support your local animal shelter. I am on twitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 4headies:

    @vanzack  My Unabated membership comes with a season simulator based on personalized power rankings. I'd love to run your rankings through the system if you do not mind sharing.  Please see the attached results that someone just posted on twitter.  Looking forward to another year of your winners.  https://imgur.com/a/sglgyZH

    I always preach on here about being a specialist and not a generalist. In other words, own one small slice of the sports gambling pie rather than trying to be a little bit knowledgeable in all of it. 

    So that being said, this is one area that I don't participate in, and my method actually against doing something like this. What I mean by that is that I make my decisions week to week and situation to situation, much more than I do with empirical season long or even weak to week power rankings. Within a given game or situation, I look at subsets of that game or gameplay to determine who I wager on, not an overall power ranking. 

    An example of that is that in a given week the Ravens could beat the best team, and lose to the worst team in a power ranking. The key to me is identifying which situation and subset of gameplay favors which team, not the overall high-level power ranking. So I never make power rankings, it's just something that is not on my radar. 

    Not to say that it's a bad thing to do or disparaging people who do it, just saying it's not what I do. Curious to see your power rankings and how this works out in this cool tool that unabated offers. 

    peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2024 - 4:22 PM ET #34

    Bol this season!

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    Bol this season!

     
    4headies
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    Posted: Aug. 11, 2024 - 4:30 PM ET #35

    thank you for the detailed response    

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    thank you for the detailed response    

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2024 - 7:58 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin Mitch:

    Good to see a post from you Van.. Thanks for the info.        I have been betting Baseball and I am unaware of the rule changes, but I did hear about the Silly New Onside Kick Rules.
    Yes they totally screwed the onside kick, senseless if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Runnin Mitch:

    Good to see a post from you Van.. Thanks for the info.        I have been betting Baseball and I am unaware of the rule changes, but I did hear about the Silly New Onside Kick Rules.
    Yes they totally screwed the onside kick, senseless if you ask me.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2024 - 8:01 AM ET #37

    Won't be long till all kickoffs have in game props. reallyhappy

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    Won't be long till all kickoffs have in game props. reallyhappy

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2024 - 12:48 PM ET #38

    new_laugh_sweat

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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2024 - 7:05 PM ET #39

    Looking forward to your posts this season ...Thanks.

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    Looking forward to your posts this season ...Thanks.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 13, 2024 - 8:11 PM ET #40

    Looking forward to week1!

    I know you base a lot on adjusted stats during the season - how do you formulate your picks for week 1?  Last years numbers?  Offseason changes?  Combination of those things?  Thanks as always Van

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    Looking forward to week1!

    I know you base a lot on adjusted stats during the season - how do you formulate your picks for week 1?  Last years numbers?  Offseason changes?  Combination of those things?  Thanks as always Van

     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2024 - 7:13 AM ET #41

    Yes, NFL ALMOST HERE ! Hope you have a great NFL Season. I will be lurking around an_cheers  

    "Stop chasing the money and start chasing the passion."
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    Yes, NFL ALMOST HERE ! Hope you have a great NFL Season. I will be lurking around an_cheers  

     
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    Posted: Aug. 14, 2024 - 1:10 PM ET #42

    @vanzack

     Hey brother! Looking forward to your insights and knowledge during the new season!!!!

    People rarely do that which is not expected of them.
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    @vanzack

     Hey brother! Looking forward to your insights and knowledge during the new season!!!!

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2024 - 4:31 AM ET #43

    Good luck this year Van!  thumbs_up

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    Good luck this year Van!  thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2024 - 6:34 PM ET #44

    peace_5

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    What secondary ramifications do you think the new kickoff rules will have? More 2 point conversion attempts? More going for it on 4th down in negative territory? What do you think it will add to the mean totals over the year? Will we regularly see totals around 60? The league has wanted more scoring and they've tried to limit the defenses as much as possible....giving the offense an extra 15-20 yards to start each drive seems generous....

     

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    What secondary ramifications do you think the new kickoff rules will have? More 2 point conversion attempts? More going for it on 4th down in negative territory? What do you think it will add to the mean totals over the year? Will we regularly see totals around 60? The league has wanted more scoring and they've tried to limit the defenses as much as possible....giving the offense an extra 15-20 yards to start each drive seems generous....

     

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