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    andarmac99
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2013 - 8:31 PM ET #1

    YTD: 53-40 ATS

    Season Win Totals: 4-2 ATS
    Futures: -3.22 units


    Teaser: San Francisco +3 & New England -2.5

    Probably taking the easy way out on this one, and yes I’m teasing through zero, but I like this play quite a bit. It’s a small sample but the lines have been tight so far this postseason with 6 of the 8 games falling within 7.5 or less ATS.

    SF/ATL – First of all I don’t think there’s any question this line is inflated. Before last week this line was probably a pk at worst maybe even Atlanta laying 1. There is also a good chance San Fran doesn’t play as well as they did last week because as I say often; teams rarely play as good or as bad as they did the week before. Having said that the Niners are flat out the better team. You could argue Kaepernick on the road could make mistakes, or if he’s in a hole there could be
    issues but other than that SF is just better.

    The overall pass offenses are actually about equal, all things considered. Atlanta has more talent but the Niners have been very effective. I don’t think there’s any question San Fran is much better running the ball. But the real difference here is defensively. It isn’t even close. The Niners have perhaps the best defense in the league. They are 3rd in YPP while the Falcons are 29th. On 3rd down SF is 4th while ATL is 26th. The Falcons haven’t been able to get pressure all year as they rank 28th in sack percentage and their best pass rusher missed most of last week’s game and could be out this week. The Niners don’t possess a fraudulent defense that has
    piled up numbers against weak teams either. They have played some big time pocket passing QB’s that are roughly on the same level as Matt Ryan this season in Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees. Those 4 guys averaged a 97.6 QB rating this season but against San Fran they only had a collective 83.6 rating. That’s about the same rating as Ryan Fitzpatrick so it’s quite clear the San Fran defense is doing great work against elite caliber opposition. I wouldn’t put much into Atlanta’s new found run game either. Seattle had a weak run defense that had fallen off the cliff in the 2nd half of the year but the Niners possess one of the best run stopping units in the league and they are coming off a sub par game but their standards, it’s unlikely they play bad run D two weeks in a row.

    Except for the Cowboys in Week 2 of last season the teams that San Francisco has lost to under Harbaugh all play a similar style in that they are big on the defensive line and known to be physical teams. The Giants (2x), Ravens, Cardinals, Rams, Vikings, and Seahawks are teams that IMO are vastly different from the softer style that Atlanta plays. The soft teams are ones the Niners match up well against.

    The Falcons had the ideal situation last week and they still were outplayed by a team that plays San Fran’s style but isn’t as good as San Fran. It’s just a bad matchup any way you look at it for an Atlanta team that isn’t that great to begin with. The scenario here is similar to the NFC title game two years ago. Green Bay was off a huge win that inflated the number but they were simply better than a fraudulent Bears team. The game was close and I expect this one to be as well but at the end of the day the better team won. If Atlanta does play their asses off and pull out a win it’s probably not going to be more than 3. The Niners have only lost 4 times under Harbaugh by more than 3 points and two of those games (@BAL and @SEA this year) were terrible spots.





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    YTD: 53-40 ATS

    Season Win Totals: 4-2 ATS
    Futures: -3.22 units


    Teaser: San Francisco +3 & New England -2.5

    Probably taking the easy way out on this one, and yes I’m teasing through zero, but I like this play quite a bit. It’s a small sample but the lines have been tight so far this postseason with 6 of the 8 games falling within 7.5 or less ATS.

    SF/ATL – First of all I don’t think there’s any question this line is inflated. Before last week this line was probably a pk at worst maybe even Atlanta laying 1. There is also a good chance San Fran doesn’t play as well as they did last week because as I say often; teams rarely play as good or as bad as they did the week before. Having said that the Niners are flat out the better team. You could argue Kaepernick on the road could make mistakes, or if he’s in a hole there could be
    issues but other than that SF is just better.

    The overall pass offenses are actually about equal, all things considered. Atlanta has more talent but the Niners have been very effective. I don’t think there’s any question San Fran is much better running the ball. But the real difference here is defensively. It isn’t even close. The Niners have perhaps the best defense in the league. They are 3rd in YPP while the Falcons are 29th. On 3rd down SF is 4th while ATL is 26th. The Falcons haven’t been able to get pressure all year as they rank 28th in sack percentage and their best pass rusher missed most of last week’s game and could be out this week. The Niners don’t possess a fraudulent defense that has
    piled up numbers against weak teams either. They have played some big time pocket passing QB’s that are roughly on the same level as Matt Ryan this season in Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees. Those 4 guys averaged a 97.6 QB rating this season but against San Fran they only had a collective 83.6 rating. That’s about the same rating as Ryan Fitzpatrick so it’s quite clear the San Fran defense is doing great work against elite caliber opposition. I wouldn’t put much into Atlanta’s new found run game either. Seattle had a weak run defense that had fallen off the cliff in the 2nd half of the year but the Niners possess one of the best run stopping units in the league and they are coming off a sub par game but their standards, it’s unlikely they play bad run D two weeks in a row.

    Except for the Cowboys in Week 2 of last season the teams that San Francisco has lost to under Harbaugh all play a similar style in that they are big on the defensive line and known to be physical teams. The Giants (2x), Ravens, Cardinals, Rams, Vikings, and Seahawks are teams that IMO are vastly different from the softer style that Atlanta plays. The soft teams are ones the Niners match up well against.

    The Falcons had the ideal situation last week and they still were outplayed by a team that plays San Fran’s style but isn’t as good as San Fran. It’s just a bad matchup any way you look at it for an Atlanta team that isn’t that great to begin with. The scenario here is similar to the NFC title game two years ago. Green Bay was off a huge win that inflated the number but they were simply better than a fraudulent Bears team. The game was close and I expect this one to be as well but at the end of the day the better team won. If Atlanta does play their asses off and pull out a win it’s probably not going to be more than 3. The Niners have only lost 4 times under Harbaugh by more than 3 points and two of those games (@BAL and @SEA this year) were terrible spots.





     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2013 - 8:33 PM ET #2

    BAL/NE – The tease comes into play here because I don’t believe in the Patriots defense laying this many points. Though I’d lean the -9.5 for sure I like tease more where they just have to win and aren’t at risk of a backdoor that they could easily give up.

    This is a bad spot for Baltimore. Physiologically this team has to be running out of gas on the defensive side. They played a very emotional game against the Colts in which they were on the field for 37.30 minutes and then followed that up with a back and forth dogfight, double OT game against Denver where they were on the field for 40.06 minutes. In both of those games the defense was on the field for 87 plays which is an extraordinary number in the NFL. To put it in perspective that is on average 5 more plays than the Baylor and Oregon offenses ran per game this past season. Now after such an emotional win and sucking thin air all game they go on the road and face a Pats offense that runs a very quick offense (most plays per game in the NFL) and will likely have this defense worn out as fatigue catches up to them. These are human beings and it is going to be very, very tough for this defense to find the kind of energy they’ll need to handle this no-huddle Pats offense after
    what they’ve gone through the last two weeks. Making matters worse is this is an old defense 9 of the 11 starters on the Ravens D are at least 27 years old and they average 29.4 years of age.

    Maybe it’s just me but Jim Caldwell calling the plays is not some great new wrinkle that the Ravens have. I thought the play calling was not good from the Ravens lastweek. There were instances where they were throwing deep low % passes on 3rd and short, and later in the game they were very predictable as they ran the ball on 1st and 2nd down and threw it on 3rd down.  That type of simplicity is not going to beat New England on the road. The Ravens offensive line dominated last week against a very good Denver front. The problem is that they probably won’t play that well again. They used a lot of energy to keep that Denver line back last week and it’s fair
    to wonder what they will have left  after playing 5 quarters last week and considering their C is 36, their RG is 36, and they have a 33 year old LT in Mckinnie who weighs 360 pounds.

    Gronk looks like a big loss for the Pats but they still put up 41 points and 477 yards basically without him last week. New England is 5-1 this year without Gronk and are averaging 35.3 PPG and 427 YPG. This team just puts new players into their scheme and moves on.

    I think it would be one hell of an accomplishment if the Ravens came in and played at a high enough level and found enough energy to actually win this game outright.


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    BAL/NE – The tease comes into play here because I don’t believe in the Patriots defense laying this many points. Though I’d lean the -9.5 for sure I like tease more where they just have to win and aren’t at risk of a backdoor that they could easily give up.

    This is a bad spot for Baltimore. Physiologically this team has to be running out of gas on the defensive side. They played a very emotional game against the Colts in which they were on the field for 37.30 minutes and then followed that up with a back and forth dogfight, double OT game against Denver where they were on the field for 40.06 minutes. In both of those games the defense was on the field for 87 plays which is an extraordinary number in the NFL. To put it in perspective that is on average 5 more plays than the Baylor and Oregon offenses ran per game this past season. Now after such an emotional win and sucking thin air all game they go on the road and face a Pats offense that runs a very quick offense (most plays per game in the NFL) and will likely have this defense worn out as fatigue catches up to them. These are human beings and it is going to be very, very tough for this defense to find the kind of energy they’ll need to handle this no-huddle Pats offense after
    what they’ve gone through the last two weeks. Making matters worse is this is an old defense 9 of the 11 starters on the Ravens D are at least 27 years old and they average 29.4 years of age.

    Maybe it’s just me but Jim Caldwell calling the plays is not some great new wrinkle that the Ravens have. I thought the play calling was not good from the Ravens lastweek. There were instances where they were throwing deep low % passes on 3rd and short, and later in the game they were very predictable as they ran the ball on 1st and 2nd down and threw it on 3rd down.  That type of simplicity is not going to beat New England on the road. The Ravens offensive line dominated last week against a very good Denver front. The problem is that they probably won’t play that well again. They used a lot of energy to keep that Denver line back last week and it’s fair
    to wonder what they will have left  after playing 5 quarters last week and considering their C is 36, their RG is 36, and they have a 33 year old LT in Mckinnie who weighs 360 pounds.

    Gronk looks like a big loss for the Pats but they still put up 41 points and 477 yards basically without him last week. New England is 5-1 this year without Gronk and are averaging 35.3 PPG and 427 YPG. This team just puts new players into their scheme and moves on.

    I think it would be one hell of an accomplishment if the Ravens came in and played at a high enough level and found enough energy to actually win this game outright.


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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2013 - 8:46 PM ET #3

    Not sure why you wouldn't take Balt to +16 ... Write up kinda stinks .. A lot of what if or they won't do this or that their old their tired .. Come on your a better capper then that. Look at the last 4 or 5 games between the two very close. This is a good match up for Balt. they already beat them this yr and have won at fox boor in the playoffs a few yrs ago
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    Not sure why you wouldn't take Balt to +16 ... Write up kinda stinks .. A lot of what if or they won't do this or that their old their tired .. Come on your a better capper then that. Look at the last 4 or 5 games between the two very close. This is a good match up for Balt. they already beat them this yr and have won at fox boor in the playoffs a few yrs ago
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamMunny:

    Not sure why you wouldn't take Balt to +16 ... Write up kinda stinks .. A lot of what if or they won't do this or that their old their tired .. Come on your a better capper then that. Look at the last 4 or 5 games between the two very close. This is a good match up for Balt. they already beat them this yr and have won at fox boor in the playoffs a few yrs ago


    Much better chance of Baltimore getting blown out than winning this game IMO.

    This isn't even close to the same scenario as previous years. I was all over Baltimore in this game last season. They came in underrated off a very sloppy game and the line was way overinflated. This time around the Ravens are not being overlooked by most and I think they will have trouble. The big guys upfront are going to be really feeling it. If they are out of gas and can't win against the Pats O-line then Brady is going to pick this secondary apart. Same story on the other side with some old guys on the Ravens O-line. If they can't block the run game won't get going and Flacco is going to have pressure in his face. Flacco can be wildly inaccurate when he's got guys in his face.

    Having said that the Pats defense is not one you generally want to lay -9/9.5 with.


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    Not sure why you wouldn't take Balt to +16 ... Write up kinda stinks .. A lot of what if or they won't do this or that their old their tired .. Come on your a better capper then that. Look at the last 4 or 5 games between the two very close. This is a good match up for Balt. they already beat them this yr and have won at fox boor in the playoffs a few yrs ago


    Much better chance of Baltimore getting blown out than winning this game IMO.

    This isn't even close to the same scenario as previous years. I was all over Baltimore in this game last season. They came in underrated off a very sloppy game and the line was way overinflated. This time around the Ravens are not being overlooked by most and I think they will have trouble. The big guys upfront are going to be really feeling it. If they are out of gas and can't win against the Pats O-line then Brady is going to pick this secondary apart. Same story on the other side with some old guys on the Ravens O-line. If they can't block the run game won't get going and Flacco is going to have pressure in his face. Flacco can be wildly inaccurate when he's got guys in his face.

    Having said that the Pats defense is not one you generally want to lay -9/9.5 with.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2013 - 9:13 PM ET #5

    San Fran and New England.
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    I agree in another time or place fatigue could be an issue but not in this scenerio.  Full week's compliment of rest playing Saturday now getting late game following Sunday w/ short trip  Ravens can all but taste a SB.... there could not be a closer matchup and 9 is way too many. Pats D has been extremely soft and overall as a team they thrive on special teams /pts and field position to a fault. I loved the Pats this past week vs Hous because they had a dream matchup vs Houston's play action dependent offense.  Flacco has definitely reached a point of supreme confidence. He's finding everybody...Boldin, Smith , Ray...too many weapons right now and the worse the conditions get  the better ravens chances as cold has no effect on his ability to wing it.  Let's face it Gronk is a huge loss they are at a significant disadvantage w/ out his presence and ability to shred defenses w/ mismatches.  They won't be able to take advantage of Lewis on passing downs as much w/ out him....not a Ray Lewis fan but there's something going on out there on a whole different level for the Ravens right now and 9 is too many points. I respect you as a capper just think you have this  one wrong but BOL w/ SF as we are on same sde there. 
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    I agree in another time or place fatigue could be an issue but not in this scenerio.  Full week's compliment of rest playing Saturday now getting late game following Sunday w/ short trip  Ravens can all but taste a SB.... there could not be a closer matchup and 9 is way too many. Pats D has been extremely soft and overall as a team they thrive on special teams /pts and field position to a fault. I loved the Pats this past week vs Hous because they had a dream matchup vs Houston's play action dependent offense.  Flacco has definitely reached a point of supreme confidence. He's finding everybody...Boldin, Smith , Ray...too many weapons right now and the worse the conditions get  the better ravens chances as cold has no effect on his ability to wing it.  Let's face it Gronk is a huge loss they are at a significant disadvantage w/ out his presence and ability to shred defenses w/ mismatches.  They won't be able to take advantage of Lewis on passing downs as much w/ out him....not a Ray Lewis fan but there's something going on out there on a whole different level for the Ravens right now and 9 is too many points. I respect you as a capper just think you have this  one wrong but BOL w/ SF as we are on same sde there. 
     
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    Looks like a winner to me bud.
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    Looks like a winner to me bud.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2013 - 10:37 PM ET #8

    Much better chance of Baltimore getting blown out than winning this game IMO.

    yup ..and as a pats fan im loving the publics initial reaction to balty. ill probably play the pats tt and just watch the game..but being objective a 20 point win wouldnt surprise me either and destroy teasers just bc of the awful "situation" balty is in and just seems to be ignored. all you hear is "last year" even though the circumstances couldnt be more different. gl bud. great year 
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    Much better chance of Baltimore getting blown out than winning this game IMO.

    yup ..and as a pats fan im loving the publics initial reaction to balty. ill probably play the pats tt and just watch the game..but being objective a 20 point win wouldnt surprise me either and destroy teasers just bc of the awful "situation" balty is in and just seems to be ignored. all you hear is "last year" even though the circumstances couldnt be more different. gl bud. great year 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by badlands:

    Much better chance of Baltimore getting blown out than winning this game IMO.

    yup ..and as a pats fan im loving the publics initial reaction to balty. ill probably play the pats tt and just watch the game..but being objective a 20 point win wouldnt surprise me either and destroy teasers just bc of the awful "situation" balty is in and just seems to be ignored. all you hear is "last year" even though the circumstances couldnt be more different. gl bud. great year 

    well said, last season Bal was coming off a cushy home game vs 3rd string qb Yates and had a bye the week before that.. this season their defense played 87 snaps 2 weeks in a row, with last week being in mile high altitude..  everyone is so focused on no Gronk for Ne but I haven't read once how Ne has replaced Ochostinko & Sterling Moore with Lloyd & Talib.. Bal blew it last season and this season won't be close enough to have a chance to blow it again

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    Much better chance of Baltimore getting blown out than winning this game IMO.

    yup ..and as a pats fan im loving the publics initial reaction to balty. ill probably play the pats tt and just watch the game..but being objective a 20 point win wouldnt surprise me either and destroy teasers just bc of the awful "situation" balty is in and just seems to be ignored. all you hear is "last year" even though the circumstances couldnt be more different. gl bud. great year 

    well said, last season Bal was coming off a cushy home game vs 3rd string qb Yates and had a bye the week before that.. this season their defense played 87 snaps 2 weeks in a row, with last week being in mile high altitude..  everyone is so focused on no Gronk for Ne but I haven't read once how Ne has replaced Ochostinko & Sterling Moore with Lloyd & Talib.. Bal blew it last season and this season won't be close enough to have a chance to blow it again

     
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    Hallelujah!!!  Mac u finally talkin some sense about the Niners!  I thought u mite fade them again for the 80th time this year :) 

    just kidding tho, great write up, excellent insight.  Niners rarely lose, and when they do its usually not by a lot, and its against physical teams, like u said.   best of luck 
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    Hallelujah!!!  Mac u finally talkin some sense about the Niners!  I thought u mite fade them again for the 80th time this year :) 

    just kidding tho, great write up, excellent insight.  Niners rarely lose, and when they do its usually not by a lot, and its against physical teams, like u said.   best of luck 
     
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    Ravens have 8 days rest compared to 6 last week.  And, this old, tired defense gave up a total of 7 points to the Broncos offense in the last 45 game minutes of a 75 minute game.

    Caldwell isn't the difference in the Ravens...it is a healthy, new look offensive line.  Finally put the best 5 in the right order.  They handled the Colts and Broncos pass rush with ease.  When Flacco gets time, he is a top 5 QB.  Pats don't have nowhere close to as good of a pass rush.  Will miss Jones here.  Flacco outplayed Brady their last 3 matchups.  No Gronk is huge because Ravens can't matchup with two elite TE's.

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    Ravens have 8 days rest compared to 6 last week.  And, this old, tired defense gave up a total of 7 points to the Broncos offense in the last 45 game minutes of a 75 minute game.

    Caldwell isn't the difference in the Ravens...it is a healthy, new look offensive line.  Finally put the best 5 in the right order.  They handled the Colts and Broncos pass rush with ease.  When Flacco gets time, he is a top 5 QB.  Pats don't have nowhere close to as good of a pass rush.  Will miss Jones here.  Flacco outplayed Brady their last 3 matchups.  No Gronk is huge because Ravens can't matchup with two elite TE's.

     
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    Ravens have 8 days rest compared to 6 last week.  And, this old, tired defense gave up a total of 7 points to the Broncos offense in the last 45 game minutes of a 75 minute game.

    Caldwell isn't the difference in the Ravens...it is a healthy, new look offensive line.  Finally put the best 5 in the right order.  They handled the Colts and Broncos pass rush with ease.  When Flacco gets time, he is a top 5 QB.  Pats don't have nowhere close to as good of a pass rush.  Will miss Jones here.  Flacco outplayed Brady their last 3 matchups.  No Gronk is huge because Ravens can't matchup with two elite TE's.

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    Ravens have 8 days rest compared to 6 last week.  And, this old, tired defense gave up a total of 7 points to the Broncos offense in the last 45 game minutes of a 75 minute game.

    Caldwell isn't the difference in the Ravens...it is a healthy, new look offensive line.  Finally put the best 5 in the right order.  They handled the Colts and Broncos pass rush with ease.  When Flacco gets time, he is a top 5 QB.  Pats don't have nowhere close to as good of a pass rush.  Will miss Jones here.  Flacco outplayed Brady their last 3 matchups.  No Gronk is huge because Ravens can't matchup with two elite TE's.

     
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    "i dont believe there is any question S F is better running the ball"....i just have to take issue with this...Turner and the Quizz will be equal to the task.....all due respect 

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    "i dont believe there is any question S F is better running the ball"....i just have to take issue with this...Turner and the Quizz will be equal to the task.....all due respect 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    BAL/NE – The tease comes into play here because I don’t believe in the Patriots defense laying this many points. Though I’d lean the -9.5 for sure I like tease more where they just have to win and aren’t at risk of a backdoor that they could easily give up.

    This is a bad spot for Baltimore. Physiologically this team has to be running out of gas on the defensive side. They played a very emotional game against the Colts in which they were on the field for 37.30 minutes and then followed that up with a back and forth dogfight, double OT game against Denver where they were on the field for 40.06 minutes. In both of those games the defense was on the field for 87 plays which is an extraordinary number in the NFL. To put it in perspective that is on average 5 more plays than the Baylor and Oregon offenses ran per game this past season. Now after such an emotional win and sucking thin air all game they go on the road and face a Pats offense that runs a very quick offense (most plays per game in the NFL) and will likely have this defense worn out as fatigue catches up to them. These are human beings and it is going to be very, very tough for this defense to find the kind of energy they’ll need to handle this no-huddle Pats offense after
    what they’ve gone through the last two weeks. Making matters worse is this is an old defense 9 of the 11 starters on the Ravens D are at least 27 years old and they average 29.4 years of age.

    Maybe it’s just me but Jim Caldwell calling the plays is not some great new wrinkle that the Ravens have. I thought the play calling was not good from the Ravens lastweek. There were instances where they were throwing deep low % passes on 3rd and short, and later in the game they were very predictable as they ran the ball on 1st and 2nd down and threw it on 3rd down.  That type of simplicity is not going to beat New England on the road. The Ravens offensive line dominated last week against a very good Denver front. The problem is that they probably won’t play that well again. They used a lot of energy to keep that Denver line back last week and it’s fair
    to wonder what they will have left  after playing 5 quarters last week and considering their C is 36, their RG is 36, and they have a 33 year old LT in Mckinnie who weighs 360 pounds.

    Right guard Marshall Yanda is 29.....Extra prep time helps a lot.....Sell them short it's cool,except for us Ravens fans lots of haters out there...promise you we will show up...

     



    Gronk looks like a big loss for the Pats but they still put up 41 points and 477 yards basically without him last week. New England is 5-1 this year without Gronk and are averaging 35.3 PPG and 427 YPG. This team just puts new players into their scheme and moves on.

    I think it would be one hell of an accomplishment if the Ravens came in and played at a high enough level and found enough energy to actually win this game outright.


    GL gents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    BAL/NE – The tease comes into play here because I don’t believe in the Patriots defense laying this many points. Though I’d lean the -9.5 for sure I like tease more where they just have to win and aren’t at risk of a backdoor that they could easily give up.

    This is a bad spot for Baltimore. Physiologically this team has to be running out of gas on the defensive side. They played a very emotional game against the Colts in which they were on the field for 37.30 minutes and then followed that up with a back and forth dogfight, double OT game against Denver where they were on the field for 40.06 minutes. In both of those games the defense was on the field for 87 plays which is an extraordinary number in the NFL. To put it in perspective that is on average 5 more plays than the Baylor and Oregon offenses ran per game this past season. Now after such an emotional win and sucking thin air all game they go on the road and face a Pats offense that runs a very quick offense (most plays per game in the NFL) and will likely have this defense worn out as fatigue catches up to them. These are human beings and it is going to be very, very tough for this defense to find the kind of energy they’ll need to handle this no-huddle Pats offense after
    what they’ve gone through the last two weeks. Making matters worse is this is an old defense 9 of the 11 starters on the Ravens D are at least 27 years old and they average 29.4 years of age.

    Maybe it’s just me but Jim Caldwell calling the plays is not some great new wrinkle that the Ravens have. I thought the play calling was not good from the Ravens lastweek. There were instances where they were throwing deep low % passes on 3rd and short, and later in the game they were very predictable as they ran the ball on 1st and 2nd down and threw it on 3rd down.  That type of simplicity is not going to beat New England on the road. The Ravens offensive line dominated last week against a very good Denver front. The problem is that they probably won’t play that well again. They used a lot of energy to keep that Denver line back last week and it’s fair
    to wonder what they will have left  after playing 5 quarters last week and considering their C is 36, their RG is 36, and they have a 33 year old LT in Mckinnie who weighs 360 pounds.

    Right guard Marshall Yanda is 29.....Extra prep time helps a lot.....Sell them short it's cool,except for us Ravens fans lots of haters out there...promise you we will show up...

     



    Gronk looks like a big loss for the Pats but they still put up 41 points and 477 yards basically without him last week. New England is 5-1 this year without Gronk and are averaging 35.3 PPG and 427 YPG. This team just puts new players into their scheme and moves on.

    I think it would be one hell of an accomplishment if the Ravens came in and played at a high enough level and found enough energy to actually win this game outright.


    GL gents.

     
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    Stuckey - if you don't think the amount Of time the ravens D has been on the field isn't going to impact them this game, you're insane.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Splooge:

    I agree in another time or place fatigue could be an issue but not in this scenerio.  Full week's compliment of rest playing Saturday now getting late game following Sunday w/ short trip  Ravens can all but taste a SB.... there could not be a closer matchup and 9 is way too many. Pats D has been extremely soft and overall as a team they thrive on special teams /pts and field position to a fault. I loved the Pats this past week vs Hous because they had a dream matchup vs Houston's play action dependent offense.  Flacco has definitely reached a point of supreme confidence. He's finding everybody...Boldin, Smith , Ray...too many weapons right now and the worse the conditions get  the better ravens chances as cold has no effect on his ability to wing it.  Let's face it Gronk is a huge loss they are at a significant disadvantage w/ out his presence and ability to shred defenses w/ mismatches.  They won't be able to take advantage of Lewis on passing downs as much w/ out him....not a Ray Lewis fan but there's something going on out there on a whole different level for the Ravens right now and 9 is too many points. I respect you as a capper just think you have this  one wrong but BOL w/ SF as we are on same sde there. 

     

    Gronks been gone like half this season...and they still kill the likes of houston..what u talkin bout

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    I agree in another time or place fatigue could be an issue but not in this scenerio.  Full week's compliment of rest playing Saturday now getting late game following Sunday w/ short trip  Ravens can all but taste a SB.... there could not be a closer matchup and 9 is way too many. Pats D has been extremely soft and overall as a team they thrive on special teams /pts and field position to a fault. I loved the Pats this past week vs Hous because they had a dream matchup vs Houston's play action dependent offense.  Flacco has definitely reached a point of supreme confidence. He's finding everybody...Boldin, Smith , Ray...too many weapons right now and the worse the conditions get  the better ravens chances as cold has no effect on his ability to wing it.  Let's face it Gronk is a huge loss they are at a significant disadvantage w/ out his presence and ability to shred defenses w/ mismatches.  They won't be able to take advantage of Lewis on passing downs as much w/ out him....not a Ray Lewis fan but there's something going on out there on a whole different level for the Ravens right now and 9 is too many points. I respect you as a capper just think you have this  one wrong but BOL w/ SF as we are on same sde there. 

     

    Gronks been gone like half this season...and they still kill the likes of houston..what u talkin bout

     
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    PW...U are right...but they had a bye B4 these last 2 games...lots of guys played hardly at all the last few months...Oline is completly different now...If Pierce can play and spell RR ground and pound all day long...Webb's loss out since mid October is huge...#24 Graham has been real good...#23 Brown a weak link...#22 Smith needs to play more...

    7-1 when # 52 plays....he has looked great the last 2 weeks....Bronco's put up 21 points on us....Pats get 30....yep....we win 34-31 on a FG from Tucker late....

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    PW...U are right...but they had a bye B4 these last 2 games...lots of guys played hardly at all the last few months...Oline is completly different now...If Pierce can play and spell RR ground and pound all day long...Webb's loss out since mid October is huge...#24 Graham has been real good...#23 Brown a weak link...#22 Smith needs to play more...

    7-1 when # 52 plays....he has looked great the last 2 weeks....Bronco's put up 21 points on us....Pats get 30....yep....we win 34-31 on a FG from Tucker late....

     
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    Bengals game was the Bye week...
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    There is simply no way to argue against playing a teaser like you are, although it might be nice to stretch it a half point further to get SF @ +3.5. Best of Luck. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    Ravens have 8 days rest compared to 6 last week.  And, this old, tired defense gave up a total of 7 points to the Broncos offense in the last 45 game minutes of a 75 minute game.

    Caldwell isn't the difference in the Ravens...it is a healthy, new look offensive line.  Finally put the best 5 in the right order.  They handled the Colts and Broncos pass rush with ease.  When Flacco gets time, he is a top 5 QB.  Pats don't have nowhere close to as good of a pass rush.  Will miss Jones here.  Flacco outplayed Brady their last 3 matchups.  No Gronk is huge because Ravens can't matchup with two elite TE's.

     

    This is important information. Here is Baltimore we have had a ridiculous situation where our O line was missing a key piece and players out of postion. Its a long story but finally Mckinney is back at LT and Oher is back at RT and Yanda is also back from injury. This is the first time this season we have the O line where it was supposed to be.

     The result in the past two games has been amazing. Flacco is getting time to throw and with his cannon of an arm we are on fire from an offensive standpoint. In Ravens playoff history can you guess what the two biggest offensive games have been. Thats right Indy and now Denver. Scoring 24 and 38 and putting up 440 yds and 480 yds. Please note we would have scored more in the Indy game if Ray Rice dosent fumble twice. I attribute this too the O line and the firing of Cam Cameron and New OC Jim Caldwell. We all knew in balt that if we could just get rid of Cam the O could take off anf it has.

    Lets talk D we are the healthiest we have been all yr and the addition of somebody you may not know is Corey Graham who finally got to start when we have injuries in the secondary. Corey had two Ints in the Denver game and with Cary Williams has solidified the secondary. The emergence of Danell Ellerby and Paul Kruger and really helped the D come back from a horrible start. In the two playoff game we have given up 9 and 21 pts.

    I could keep going about how we match up very well with NE we always have. Please check out the last 5 games in the series. Balt is 2-3 SU and 2-2-1 ATS with their losses by 6, 3, 3.

    Bottom line forget I am a homer from my cappering perspective 9 pts is too high and I have cashed two tickets in the first two playoff games and the Indy ticket being my biggest cash of my life. i rarely play my team but i knew the Denver line was a joke as the indy line was. Brady said it best after they beat Houston. He said "The two best teams are in the AFC championship" he has played both Denver and Balt this year and he lost to Balt.

    I may not change your mind but wanted to post this info for ya. GL with your plays

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    Ravens have 8 days rest compared to 6 last week.  And, this old, tired defense gave up a total of 7 points to the Broncos offense in the last 45 game minutes of a 75 minute game.

    Caldwell isn't the difference in the Ravens...it is a healthy, new look offensive line.  Finally put the best 5 in the right order.  They handled the Colts and Broncos pass rush with ease.  When Flacco gets time, he is a top 5 QB.  Pats don't have nowhere close to as good of a pass rush.  Will miss Jones here.  Flacco outplayed Brady their last 3 matchups.  No Gronk is huge because Ravens can't matchup with two elite TE's.

     

    This is important information. Here is Baltimore we have had a ridiculous situation where our O line was missing a key piece and players out of postion. Its a long story but finally Mckinney is back at LT and Oher is back at RT and Yanda is also back from injury. This is the first time this season we have the O line where it was supposed to be.

     The result in the past two games has been amazing. Flacco is getting time to throw and with his cannon of an arm we are on fire from an offensive standpoint. In Ravens playoff history can you guess what the two biggest offensive games have been. Thats right Indy and now Denver. Scoring 24 and 38 and putting up 440 yds and 480 yds. Please note we would have scored more in the Indy game if Ray Rice dosent fumble twice. I attribute this too the O line and the firing of Cam Cameron and New OC Jim Caldwell. We all knew in balt that if we could just get rid of Cam the O could take off anf it has.

    Lets talk D we are the healthiest we have been all yr and the addition of somebody you may not know is Corey Graham who finally got to start when we have injuries in the secondary. Corey had two Ints in the Denver game and with Cary Williams has solidified the secondary. The emergence of Danell Ellerby and Paul Kruger and really helped the D come back from a horrible start. In the two playoff game we have given up 9 and 21 pts.

    I could keep going about how we match up very well with NE we always have. Please check out the last 5 games in the series. Balt is 2-3 SU and 2-2-1 ATS with their losses by 6, 3, 3.

    Bottom line forget I am a homer from my cappering perspective 9 pts is too high and I have cashed two tickets in the first two playoff games and the Indy ticket being my biggest cash of my life. i rarely play my team but i knew the Denver line was a joke as the indy line was. Brady said it best after they beat Houston. He said "The two best teams are in the AFC championship" he has played both Denver and Balt this year and he lost to Balt.

    I may not change your mind but wanted to post this info for ya. GL with your plays

     
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    Go ahead Pats fans and doubters pound NE - 
    BAL has found another gear and they are playing on pure adrenaline plus they will do anything they can to give Ray another shot at a SB

    Horseshit on the playing time and rest  - the adrenaline factor will take care of that and this week they have an additional day of rest over NE.  Ravens will come in with more determination then ever before and they are being shunned again by odds makers after going into to Denver against a tough D, Hall of fame QB, 10 pt underdogs with an outright win.  This is a huge payback game from last year AFC Championship 9- 9.5 is a gift. Flacco showed earlier this year coming out with a W and last year outplaying Hall of Famer Brad that he can go head to head with him. Should be an amazing matchup once again

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    Go ahead Pats fans and doubters pound NE - 
    BAL has found another gear and they are playing on pure adrenaline plus they will do anything they can to give Ray another shot at a SB

    Horseshit on the playing time and rest  - the adrenaline factor will take care of that and this week they have an additional day of rest over NE.  Ravens will come in with more determination then ever before and they are being shunned again by odds makers after going into to Denver against a tough D, Hall of fame QB, 10 pt underdogs with an outright win.  This is a huge payback game from last year AFC Championship 9- 9.5 is a gift. Flacco showed earlier this year coming out with a W and last year outplaying Hall of Famer Brad that he can go head to head with him. Should be an amazing matchup once again

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:

    YTD: 53-40 ATS

    Season Win Totals: 4-2 ATS
    Futures: -3.22 units


    Teaser: San Francisco +3 & New England -2.5

    Probably taking the easy way out on this one, and yes I’m teasing through zero, but I like this play quite a bit. It’s a small sample but the lines have been tight so far this postseason with 6 of the 8 games falling within 7.5 or less ATS.

    SF/ATL – First of all I don’t think there’s any question this line is inflated. Before last week this line was probably a pk at worst maybe even Atlanta laying 1. There is also a good chance San Fran doesn’t play as well as they did last week because as I say often; teams rarely play as good or as bad as they did the week before. Having said that the Niners are flat out the better team. You could argue Kaepernick on the road could make mistakes, or if he’s in a hole there could be
    issues but other than that SF is just better.

    The overall pass offenses are actually about equal, all things considered. Atlanta has more talent but the Niners have been very effective. I don’t think there’s any question San Fran is much better running the ball. But the real difference here is defensively. It isn’t even close. The Niners have perhaps the best defense in the league. They are 3rd in YPP while the Falcons are 29th. On 3rd down SF is 4th while ATL is 26th. The Falcons haven’t been able to get pressure all year as they rank 28th in sack percentage and their best pass rusher missed most of last week’s game and could be out this week. The Niners don’t possess a fraudulent defense that has
    piled up numbers against weak teams either. They have played some big time pocket passing QB’s that are roughly on the same level as Matt Ryan this season in Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees. Those 4 guys averaged a 97.6 QB rating this season but against San Fran they only had a collective 83.6 rating. That’s about the same rating as Ryan Fitzpatrick so it’s quite clear the San Fran defense is doing great work against elite caliber opposition. I wouldn’t put much into Atlanta’s new found run game either. Seattle had a weak run defense that had fallen off the cliff in the 2nd half of the year but the Niners possess one of the best run stopping units in the league and they are coming off a sub par game but their standards, it’s unlikely they play bad run D two weeks in a row.

    Except for the Cowboys in Week 2 of last season the teams that San Francisco has lost to under Harbaugh all play a similar style in that they are big on the defensive line and known to be physical teams. The Giants (2x), Ravens, Cardinals, Rams, Vikings, and Seahawks are teams that IMO are vastly different from the softer style that Atlanta plays. The soft teams are ones the Niners match up well against.

    The Falcons had the ideal situation last week and they still were outplayed by a team that plays San Fran’s style but isn’t as good as San Fran. It’s just a bad matchup any way you look at it for an Atlanta team that isn’t that great to begin with. The scenario here is similar to the NFC title game two years ago. Green Bay was off a huge win that inflated the number but they were simply better than a fraudulent Bears team. The game was close and I expect this one to be as well but at the end of the day the better team won. If Atlanta does play their fools off and pull out a win it’s probably not going to be more than 3. The Niners have only lost 4 times under Harbaugh by more than 3 points and two of those games (@BAL and @SEA this year) were terrible spots.





    Seattle crushed SF 42-13 a couple of weeks ago in SF, and Atl actually handled Seattle fairly easily, they just got over confident in the second half. Atlanta will beat SF at home, no way CK has another unusually incredible game on the road in this Huge game. Don't take the bait, the play is on Atlanta
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    YTD: 53-40 ATS

    Season Win Totals: 4-2 ATS
    Futures: -3.22 units


    Teaser: San Francisco +3 & New England -2.5

    Probably taking the easy way out on this one, and yes I’m teasing through zero, but I like this play quite a bit. It’s a small sample but the lines have been tight so far this postseason with 6 of the 8 games falling within 7.5 or less ATS.

    SF/ATL – First of all I don’t think there’s any question this line is inflated. Before last week this line was probably a pk at worst maybe even Atlanta laying 1. There is also a good chance San Fran doesn’t play as well as they did last week because as I say often; teams rarely play as good or as bad as they did the week before. Having said that the Niners are flat out the better team. You could argue Kaepernick on the road could make mistakes, or if he’s in a hole there could be
    issues but other than that SF is just better.

    The overall pass offenses are actually about equal, all things considered. Atlanta has more talent but the Niners have been very effective. I don’t think there’s any question San Fran is much better running the ball. But the real difference here is defensively. It isn’t even close. The Niners have perhaps the best defense in the league. They are 3rd in YPP while the Falcons are 29th. On 3rd down SF is 4th while ATL is 26th. The Falcons haven’t been able to get pressure all year as they rank 28th in sack percentage and their best pass rusher missed most of last week’s game and could be out this week. The Niners don’t possess a fraudulent defense that has
    piled up numbers against weak teams either. They have played some big time pocket passing QB’s that are roughly on the same level as Matt Ryan this season in Aaron Rodgers, Eli Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees. Those 4 guys averaged a 97.6 QB rating this season but against San Fran they only had a collective 83.6 rating. That’s about the same rating as Ryan Fitzpatrick so it’s quite clear the San Fran defense is doing great work against elite caliber opposition. I wouldn’t put much into Atlanta’s new found run game either. Seattle had a weak run defense that had fallen off the cliff in the 2nd half of the year but the Niners possess one of the best run stopping units in the league and they are coming off a sub par game but their standards, it’s unlikely they play bad run D two weeks in a row.

    Except for the Cowboys in Week 2 of last season the teams that San Francisco has lost to under Harbaugh all play a similar style in that they are big on the defensive line and known to be physical teams. The Giants (2x), Ravens, Cardinals, Rams, Vikings, and Seahawks are teams that IMO are vastly different from the softer style that Atlanta plays. The soft teams are ones the Niners match up well against.

    The Falcons had the ideal situation last week and they still were outplayed by a team that plays San Fran’s style but isn’t as good as San Fran. It’s just a bad matchup any way you look at it for an Atlanta team that isn’t that great to begin with. The scenario here is similar to the NFC title game two years ago. Green Bay was off a huge win that inflated the number but they were simply better than a fraudulent Bears team. The game was close and I expect this one to be as well but at the end of the day the better team won. If Atlanta does play their fools off and pull out a win it’s probably not going to be more than 3. The Niners have only lost 4 times under Harbaugh by more than 3 points and two of those games (@BAL and @SEA this year) were terrible spots.





    Seattle crushed SF 42-13 a couple of weeks ago in SF, and Atl actually handled Seattle fairly easily, they just got over confident in the second half. Atlanta will beat SF at home, no way CK has another unusually incredible game on the road in this Huge game. Don't take the bait, the play is on Atlanta
     
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    Agree Charlielo55. 
    This game will be close - love the home dog at +5 

    Kapernick just played out of his mind against a slow GB Defense - ATLANTA will keep it close should be a late FG to win - thoughts on the over/under in this game at 49 ? Looking to tease ATL up to 12 or over 42?? Thoughts


    And I'm all over BAL as well getting 9 and ML +320. GL

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    Agree Charlielo55. 
    This game will be close - love the home dog at +5 

    Kapernick just played out of his mind against a slow GB Defense - ATLANTA will keep it close should be a late FG to win - thoughts on the over/under in this game at 49 ? Looking to tease ATL up to 12 or over 42?? Thoughts


    And I'm all over BAL as well getting 9 and ML +320. GL

     
     
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    This is important information. Here is Baltimore we have had a ridiculous situation where our O line was missing a key piece and players out of postion. Its a long story but finally Mckinney is back at LT and Oher is back at RT and Yanda is also back from injury. This is the first time this season we have the O line where it was supposed to be.

     The result in the past two games has been amazing. Flacco is getting time to throw and with his cannon of an arm we are on fire from an offensive standpoint. In Ravens playoff history can you guess what the two biggest offensive games have been. Thats right Indy and now Denver. Scoring 24 and 38 and putting up 440 yds and 480 yds. Please note we would have scored more in the Indy game if Ray Rice dosent fumble twice. I attribute this too the O line and the firing of Cam Cameron and New OC Jim Caldwell. We all knew in balt that if we could just get rid of Cam the O could take off anf it has.

    Lets talk D we are the healthiest we have been all yr and the addition of somebody you may not know is Corey Graham who finally got to start when we have injuries in the secondary. Corey had two Ints in the Denver game and with Cary Williams has solidified the secondary. The emergence of Danell Ellerby and Paul Kruger and really helped the D come back from a horrible start. In the two playoff game we have given up 9 and 21 pts.

    I could keep going about how we match up very well with NE we always have. Please check out the last 5 games in the series. Balt is 2-3 SU and 2-2-1 ATS with their losses by 6, 3, 3.

    Bottom line forget I am a homer from my cappering perspective 9 pts is too high and I have cashed two tickets in the first two playoff games and the Indy ticket being my biggest cash of my life. i rarely play my team but i knew the Denver line was a joke as the indy line was. Brady said it best after they beat Houston. He said "The two best teams are in the AFC championship" he has played both Denver and Balt this year and he lost to Balt.

    I may not change your mind but wanted to post this info for ya. GL with your plays


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    This is important information. Here is Baltimore we have had a ridiculous situation where our O line was missing a key piece and players out of postion. Its a long story but finally Mckinney is back at LT and Oher is back at RT and Yanda is also back from injury. This is the first time this season we have the O line where it was supposed to be.

     The result in the past two games has been amazing. Flacco is getting time to throw and with his cannon of an arm we are on fire from an offensive standpoint. In Ravens playoff history can you guess what the two biggest offensive games have been. Thats right Indy and now Denver. Scoring 24 and 38 and putting up 440 yds and 480 yds. Please note we would have scored more in the Indy game if Ray Rice dosent fumble twice. I attribute this too the O line and the firing of Cam Cameron and New OC Jim Caldwell. We all knew in balt that if we could just get rid of Cam the O could take off anf it has.

    Lets talk D we are the healthiest we have been all yr and the addition of somebody you may not know is Corey Graham who finally got to start when we have injuries in the secondary. Corey had two Ints in the Denver game and with Cary Williams has solidified the secondary. The emergence of Danell Ellerby and Paul Kruger and really helped the D come back from a horrible start. In the two playoff game we have given up 9 and 21 pts.

    I could keep going about how we match up very well with NE we always have. Please check out the last 5 games in the series. Balt is 2-3 SU and 2-2-1 ATS with their losses by 6, 3, 3.

    Bottom line forget I am a homer from my cappering perspective 9 pts is too high and I have cashed two tickets in the first two playoff games and the Indy ticket being my biggest cash of my life. i rarely play my team but i knew the Denver line was a joke as the indy line was. Brady said it best after they beat Houston. He said "The two best teams are in the AFC championship" he has played both Denver and Balt this year and he lost to Balt.

    I may not change your mind but wanted to post this info for ya. GL with your plays


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