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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2024 - 7:44 PM ET #51

    Giants When All Conferences Played as home team as a Underdog with a Spread between 0 and 4.5 and Total is between any and 45.5 from January,1 1996 to October,14 2024

    For Team

    NEW YORK GIANTS ATS Winner 18-23-2 SU Winner 15-27-2 O/U 13-28-2

     

    NY Giants are 5-2 SU in their last 7 games against Cincinnati

    NY Giants are 8-2-1 ATS in their last 11 games against an opponent in the AFC

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Giants’ last 5 games against an opponent in the AFC

    NY Giants are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 games against an opponent in the AFC North division

    NY Giants are 34-91-1 SU in their last 126 games when playing as the underdog

     

     

     

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    Giants When All Conferences Played as home team as a Underdog with a Spread between 0 and 4.5 and Total is between any and 45.5 from January,1 1996 to October,14 2024

    For Team

    NEW YORK GIANTS ATS Winner 18-23-2 SU Winner 15-27-2 O/U 13-28-2

     

    NY Giants are 5-2 SU in their last 7 games against Cincinnati

    NY Giants are 8-2-1 ATS in their last 11 games against an opponent in the AFC

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Giants’ last 5 games against an opponent in the AFC

    NY Giants are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 games against an opponent in the AFC North division

    NY Giants are 34-91-1 SU in their last 126 games when playing as the underdog

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2024 - 7:48 PM ET #52

    Analyse New York Giants

     

    When NEW YORK GIANTS team played as a 6 or less home Underdog coming off a road win During the month of October

    ATS Winner 1-3-0  <------- SU Winner 1-3-0 <----------

    When NEW YORK GIANTS team played as a 6 or less home Underdog playing in week 6 During the month of October

    ATS Winner 1-2-1 SU <-------  Winner 2-2-0 <--------  O/U 1-3-0

    When NEW YORK GIANTS team Played as home team as a Underdog During the month of October Coming off a Road Game

    ATS Winner 3-8-1 SU <--------  Winner 4-8-1  <------- O/U 4-8-1

    When NEW YORK GIANTS team Played as home team as a Underdog During the month of October With 6 day off

    ATS Winner 5-4-1 <-------  SU Winner 5-5-0 O/U 2-7-1 <------

    NY Giants are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 games against an opponent in the AFC North division

    NY Giants are 2-5 SU in their last 7 games played in October.

    NY Giants are 34-91-1 SU in their last 126 games when playing as the underdog

     

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    Analyse New York Giants

     

    When NEW YORK GIANTS team played as a 6 or less home Underdog coming off a road win During the month of October

    ATS Winner 1-3-0  <------- SU Winner 1-3-0 <----------

    When NEW YORK GIANTS team played as a 6 or less home Underdog playing in week 6 During the month of October

    ATS Winner 1-2-1 SU <-------  Winner 2-2-0 <--------  O/U 1-3-0

    When NEW YORK GIANTS team Played as home team as a Underdog During the month of October Coming off a Road Game

    ATS Winner 3-8-1 SU <--------  Winner 4-8-1  <------- O/U 4-8-1

    When NEW YORK GIANTS team Played as home team as a Underdog During the month of October With 6 day off

    ATS Winner 5-4-1 <-------  SU Winner 5-5-0 O/U 2-7-1 <------

    NY Giants are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 games against an opponent in the AFC North division

    NY Giants are 2-5 SU in their last 7 games played in October.

    NY Giants are 34-91-1 SU in their last 126 games when playing as the underdog

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2024 - 7:51 PM ET #53

    Bengals

     

    When CINCINNATI BENGALS team Played as road team as a Favorite playing in week 6 During the month of October

    ATS Winner 4-4-0 SU Winner 5-3-0 O/U 6-2-0

     

    The Bengals are 8-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off a Lost Since 1996 (80%)


    The Bengals are 12-3 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off vs American Conference Opponent Since 1996 (80%)

     

    The Bengals are 10-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Before a Conference Game Since 1996 (83.33%)

     

    When CINCINNATI BENGALS team played as Road team as a Favorite - Vs Non Division Opponent - Coming off 1 game loss

    8-2-0 ATS Winner 9-1-0 SU Winner 5-5-0 O/U

     

    The Bengals are 8-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off a Lost Since 1996

     

    The Bengals are 11-3-0 ATS when played as Away Team After a Division Game Last 5 Years

     

    The Bengals are 21-6 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Playing on Sunday Since 1996

     

    The Bengals are 16-5 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite With 6 Days Off Since 1996

     

     

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    Bengals

     

    When CINCINNATI BENGALS team Played as road team as a Favorite playing in week 6 During the month of October

    ATS Winner 4-4-0 SU Winner 5-3-0 O/U 6-2-0

     

    The Bengals are 8-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off a Lost Since 1996 (80%)


    The Bengals are 12-3 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off vs American Conference Opponent Since 1996 (80%)

     

    The Bengals are 10-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Before a Conference Game Since 1996 (83.33%)

     

    When CINCINNATI BENGALS team played as Road team as a Favorite - Vs Non Division Opponent - Coming off 1 game loss

    8-2-0 ATS Winner 9-1-0 SU Winner 5-5-0 O/U

     

    The Bengals are 8-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off a Lost Since 1996

     

    The Bengals are 11-3-0 ATS when played as Away Team After a Division Game Last 5 Years

     

    The Bengals are 21-6 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Playing on Sunday Since 1996

     

    The Bengals are 16-5 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite With 6 Days Off Since 1996

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2024 - 7:56 PM ET #54

    The Bengals are 23-8 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Played as Road Team Since 1996

     

    The Bengals are 11-4-0 ATS when played as Away Team Coming off a 1 Losing Streak Last 7 Years

     

    The Bengals are 8-4-0 ATS when played as Away Team Coming off a Home ATS lost Last 5 Years

     

    The Bengals are 15-8-1 ATS when played as Away Team Coming off a 3 Points Loss Since 1996


    The Bengals are 13-7-1 ATS when played as Away Teamvs NFC East Division Opponent Since 1996


    The Bengals are 8-5-0 ATS when played as Away Team Playing in the Month of October Last 5 Years

     

    Cincinnati are 21-9 ATS in their last 30 games on the road

    Cincinnati are 18-6 ATS in their last 24 games played on a Sunday when playing on the road

    Cincinnati are 3-7 ATS in their last 10 games against an opponent in the NFC East division

    Cincinnati are 8-22-1 SU in their last 31 games played in week 6

    Cincinnati are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games played in week 6

    Cincinnati are 18-6 ATS in their last 24 games played on a Sunday when playing on the road

     

    Bengals as some trouble during month of October as favorit to win and cover spread away.

    NY Giants as also trouble cover spread as home underdogs.

     

    Bengals do well when they are in losing streak.

    The Bengals are 8-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off a Lost Since 1996 (80%)


    The Bengals are 12-3 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off vs American Conference Opponent Since 1996 (80%)

     

    The Bengals are 10-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Before a Conference Game Since 1996 (83.33%)

     

    PICK  :  Bengals -2.5

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    The Bengals are 23-8 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Played as Road Team Since 1996

     

    The Bengals are 11-4-0 ATS when played as Away Team Coming off a 1 Losing Streak Last 7 Years

     

    The Bengals are 8-4-0 ATS when played as Away Team Coming off a Home ATS lost Last 5 Years

     

    The Bengals are 15-8-1 ATS when played as Away Team Coming off a 3 Points Loss Since 1996


    The Bengals are 13-7-1 ATS when played as Away Teamvs NFC East Division Opponent Since 1996


    The Bengals are 8-5-0 ATS when played as Away Team Playing in the Month of October Last 5 Years

     

    Cincinnati are 21-9 ATS in their last 30 games on the road

    Cincinnati are 18-6 ATS in their last 24 games played on a Sunday when playing on the road

    Cincinnati are 3-7 ATS in their last 10 games against an opponent in the NFC East division

    Cincinnati are 8-22-1 SU in their last 31 games played in week 6

    Cincinnati are 5-1 ATS in their last 6 games played in week 6

    Cincinnati are 18-6 ATS in their last 24 games played on a Sunday when playing on the road

     

    Bengals as some trouble during month of October as favorit to win and cover spread away.

    NY Giants as also trouble cover spread as home underdogs.

     

    Bengals do well when they are in losing streak.

    The Bengals are 8-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off a Lost Since 1996 (80%)


    The Bengals are 12-3 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Coming off vs American Conference Opponent Since 1996 (80%)

     

    The Bengals are 10-2 SU when played as 3.5 to 6.5 Away Favorite Before a Conference Game Since 1996 (83.33%)

     

    PICK  :  Bengals -2.5

     
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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2024 - 11:20 PM ET #55

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    Posted: Oct. 13, 2024 - 11:23 PM ET #56

    So, you bought 1.5?

     

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    So, you bought 1.5?

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2024 - 5:14 PM ET #57

    NFL Monday night   

    NY Jets vs  Buffalo Bills

    Buffalo Bills favourite to win his game according Vegas.

    Boths teams don't perfom very well lately each teams are 2 games losing streak. Boths teams will looking for a win.

     

    Analyse Let's take a look on NY Jets 

     

    Current game (Since '83): vs. Buffalo Bills

    SU : 20-21 ATS : 21-20-0 O/U : 22-19-0

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a Home team - After a non division game - Coming off vs National Conference opponent - vs. opponent with a 51% to 60% winning %

    8-3-0 ATS 9-2 SU 6-5-0 O/U

    When ANY NFL Team played as a Home team - During the month of October - During Week 4 to 8 - Playing on Monday - Allowed 22 - 28 AGAINST in their last game - Coming off a Road loss

    11-11-0 ATS 12-10 4-18-0 O/U

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a Home team - After a non division game - Coming off vs National Conference opponent - vs. opponent with a 51% to 60% winning %

    8-3-0 ATS 9-2-0 SU 6-5-0 O/U

    When NEW YORK JETS played as Underdog- in the Month of October

    8-2-0 ATS 7-3-0 SU 5-5-0 O/U

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a Home team - Vs Conference Opponent - vs. oppenent with a 51% to 60% winning %

    11-2-0 ATS 11-2 SU 7-6-0 O/U

     

     

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    NFL Monday night   

    NY Jets vs  Buffalo Bills

    Buffalo Bills favourite to win his game according Vegas.

    Boths teams don't perfom very well lately each teams are 2 games losing streak. Boths teams will looking for a win.

     

    Analyse Let's take a look on NY Jets 

     

    Current game (Since '83): vs. Buffalo Bills

    SU : 20-21 ATS : 21-20-0 O/U : 22-19-0

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a Home team - After a non division game - Coming off vs National Conference opponent - vs. opponent with a 51% to 60% winning %

    8-3-0 ATS 9-2 SU 6-5-0 O/U

    When ANY NFL Team played as a Home team - During the month of October - During Week 4 to 8 - Playing on Monday - Allowed 22 - 28 AGAINST in their last game - Coming off a Road loss

    11-11-0 ATS 12-10 4-18-0 O/U

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a Home team - After a non division game - Coming off vs National Conference opponent - vs. opponent with a 51% to 60% winning %

    8-3-0 ATS 9-2-0 SU 6-5-0 O/U

    When NEW YORK JETS played as Underdog- in the Month of October

    8-2-0 ATS 7-3-0 SU 5-5-0 O/U

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a Home team - Vs Conference Opponent - vs. oppenent with a 51% to 60% winning %

    11-2-0 ATS 11-2 SU 7-6-0 O/U

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2024 - 5:19 PM ET #58

    NFL system

    Home Teams (neutral NY Jets )

    45-46-0 SU 49.45 % 40-50-1 ATS 43.96 % 48-42-1 O/U 52.75 %

     

    Team Spread Result

    When NEW YORK JETS played as Home Underdog with a Spread between 0 and 3.5 and Total is between 37 and 41 in the month of October

    ATS Winner 4-5-1 SU Winner 4-6-0 O/U 5-5-0

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 Underdog During the month of October Coming off a 2 Game Losing Streak

    ATS Winner 1-2-0 SU Winner 1-2-0 O/U 1-2-0

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team Played as Home Team and Value Index as Neutral 10 Records

    4-5-2 ATS Winner 4-5-1 SU Winner 2-7-0 O/U

     

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team Played as home team as a Underdog During the month of October Coming off a 2 Game Losing Streak

    ATS Winner 4-1-0 SU Winner 2-3-0 O/U 4-1-0

    When NEW YORK JETS team Played as home team as a Underdog During the month of October Coming off a 2 Game Losing Streak Last 2 years

    ATS Winner 1-0-0 SU Winner 0-1-0 O/U 1-0-0

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 home Underdog During the month of October Coming off a 2 Game Losing Streak

    ATS Winner 1-1-0 SU Winner 1-1-0 O/U 1-1-0

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 Underdog With 7 day off

    ATS Winner 5-6-1 SU Winner 5-7-0 O/U 3-8-1

     

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    Home Teams (neutral NY Jets )

    45-46-0 SU 49.45 % 40-50-1 ATS 43.96 % 48-42-1 O/U 52.75 %

     

    Team Spread Result

    When NEW YORK JETS played as Home Underdog with a Spread between 0 and 3.5 and Total is between 37 and 41 in the month of October

    ATS Winner 4-5-1 SU Winner 4-6-0 O/U 5-5-0

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 Underdog During the month of October Coming off a 2 Game Losing Streak

    ATS Winner 1-2-0 SU Winner 1-2-0 O/U 1-2-0

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team Played as Home Team and Value Index as Neutral 10 Records

    4-5-2 ATS Winner 4-5-1 SU Winner 2-7-0 O/U

     

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team Played as home team as a Underdog During the month of October Coming off a 2 Game Losing Streak

    ATS Winner 4-1-0 SU Winner 2-3-0 O/U 4-1-0

    When NEW YORK JETS team Played as home team as a Underdog During the month of October Coming off a 2 Game Losing Streak Last 2 years

    ATS Winner 1-0-0 SU Winner 0-1-0 O/U 1-0-0

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 home Underdog During the month of October Coming off a 2 Game Losing Streak

    ATS Winner 1-1-0 SU Winner 1-1-0 O/U 1-1-0

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 Underdog With 7 day off

    ATS Winner 5-6-1 SU Winner 5-7-0 O/U 3-8-1

     

     
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    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 home Underdog With 7 day off playing on Monday

    ATS Winner 3-3-0 SU Winner 3-3-0 O/U 1-5-0

     

     

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    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 home Underdog With 7 day off playing on Monday

    ATS Winner 3-3-0 SU Winner 3-3-0 O/U 1-5-0

     

     

     
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    Now let's take a look on Buffalo Bills

     

    Current game (Since '83): vs. New York Jets

    SU : 21-20 ATS : 20-21-0 O/U 22-19-0

    Away Record (L10G): vs. New York Jets

    SU : 6-4 ATS : 5-5-0 O/U 4-6-0

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to -3.0 Favorite - Vs Conference Opponent - Allowed 21 points or more AGAINST in their last game

    14-3-2 ATS 15-4 SU 8-11-0 O/U

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a Road team - Vs Conference Opponent - After a non division game - Coming off a Road loss

    8-4-0 ATS 7-5 SU 1-11-0 O/U

     

    The Under is 2-10-0 for Bills when played as Away Teamvs American Conference Opponent Last 2 Years (83.33%)


    The Under is 2-9-0 for Bills when played as Away Team After a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years (81.82%)


    The Under is 2-9-0 for Bills when played as Away Team Before a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years (81.82%)


    The Under is 3-13-0 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favorite vs AFC East Division Opponent Since 1996 (81.25%)


    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Coming off vs National Conference Opponent Last 5 Years (80%)


    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team After a Non-Conference Game Last 5 Years (80%)

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to -3.0 Favorite - Vs Conference Opponent - Allowed 21 points or more AGAINST in their last game

    14-3-2 ATS 15-4-0 SU 8-11-0 O/U

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a Road team - Vs Conference Opponent - After a non division game - Coming off a Road loss

    8-4-0 ATS 7-5-0 SU 1-11-0 O/U

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    Now let's take a look on Buffalo Bills

     

    Current game (Since '83): vs. New York Jets

    SU : 21-20 ATS : 20-21-0 O/U 22-19-0

    Away Record (L10G): vs. New York Jets

    SU : 6-4 ATS : 5-5-0 O/U 4-6-0

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to -3.0 Favorite - Vs Conference Opponent - Allowed 21 points or more AGAINST in their last game

    14-3-2 ATS 15-4 SU 8-11-0 O/U

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a Road team - Vs Conference Opponent - After a non division game - Coming off a Road loss

    8-4-0 ATS 7-5 SU 1-11-0 O/U

     

    The Under is 2-10-0 for Bills when played as Away Teamvs American Conference Opponent Last 2 Years (83.33%)


    The Under is 2-9-0 for Bills when played as Away Team After a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years (81.82%)


    The Under is 2-9-0 for Bills when played as Away Team Before a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years (81.82%)


    The Under is 3-13-0 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favorite vs AFC East Division Opponent Since 1996 (81.25%)


    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Coming off vs National Conference Opponent Last 5 Years (80%)


    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team After a Non-Conference Game Last 5 Years (80%)

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to -3.0 Favorite - Vs Conference Opponent - Allowed 21 points or more AGAINST in their last game

    14-3-2 ATS 15-4-0 SU 8-11-0 O/U

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a Road team - Vs Conference Opponent - After a non division game - Coming off a Road loss

    8-4-0 ATS 7-5-0 SU 1-11-0 O/U

     
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    Team Spread Result

    When BUFFALO BILLS played as Road Favorite with a Spread between 0 and 3.5 and Total is between 37 and 41 in the month of October

    ATS Winner 2-6-0 SU Winner 2-6-0 O/U 3-5-0

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team Played as road team as a Favorite Coming off 1 under During the month of October

    ATS Winner 1-3-0 SU Winner 3-1-0 O/U 1-3-0

    When Teams Under AFC East Division Played as road team as a Favorite with a Spread between 0 and 1 and Total is between any and 41 from January,1 1996 to October,14 2024 lost 2 in a row at home, not won

    BUFFALO ATS Winner 0-1-0 SU Winner 0-1-0 O/U 0-1-0

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to 3 road Favorite With 7 day off

    ATS Winner 4-2-0 SU Winner 4-2-0 O/U 0-6-0

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games on the road.
    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Buffalo’s last 6 games on the road.
    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of Buffalo’s last 19 games on the road.
    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of Buffalo’s last 21 games on the road.

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games when playing on the road against NY Jets

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games played in October.
    The total has gone UNDER in 8 of Buffalo’s last 10 games played in October.
    The total has gone UNDER in 9 of Buffalo’s last 11 games played in October

     

    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games when playing as the favourite.
    The total has gone OVER in 6 of Buffalo’s last 7 games when playing as the favourite

     

    The total has gone OVER in 7 of Buffalo’s last 10 games played on a Monday when on the road.

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    Team Spread Result

    When BUFFALO BILLS played as Road Favorite with a Spread between 0 and 3.5 and Total is between 37 and 41 in the month of October

    ATS Winner 2-6-0 SU Winner 2-6-0 O/U 3-5-0

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team Played as road team as a Favorite Coming off 1 under During the month of October

    ATS Winner 1-3-0 SU Winner 3-1-0 O/U 1-3-0

    When Teams Under AFC East Division Played as road team as a Favorite with a Spread between 0 and 1 and Total is between any and 41 from January,1 1996 to October,14 2024 lost 2 in a row at home, not won

    BUFFALO ATS Winner 0-1-0 SU Winner 0-1-0 O/U 0-1-0

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to 3 road Favorite With 7 day off

    ATS Winner 4-2-0 SU Winner 4-2-0 O/U 0-6-0

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games on the road.
    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Buffalo’s last 6 games on the road.
    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of Buffalo’s last 19 games on the road.
    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of Buffalo’s last 21 games on the road.

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games when playing on the road against NY Jets

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games played in October.
    The total has gone UNDER in 8 of Buffalo’s last 10 games played in October.
    The total has gone UNDER in 9 of Buffalo’s last 11 games played in October

     

    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games when playing as the favourite.
    The total has gone OVER in 6 of Buffalo’s last 7 games when playing as the favourite

     

    The total has gone OVER in 7 of Buffalo’s last 10 games played on a Monday when on the road.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2024 - 5:27 PM ET #62

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 5 games against Buffalo.
    The total has gone UNDER in 6 of NY Jets’ last 7 games against Buffalo.
    The total has gone UNDER in 8 of NY Jets’ last 11 games against Buffalo

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of NY Jets’ last 5 games against an opponent in the AFC East division.


    The total has gone UNDER in 9 of NY Jets’ last 10 games against an opponent in the AFC East division.


    The total has gone UNDER in 11 of NY Jets’ last 12 games against an opponent in the AFC East division.


    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of NY Jets’ last 21 games against an opponent in the AFC East division

     

     

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    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 5 games against Buffalo.
    The total has gone UNDER in 6 of NY Jets’ last 7 games against Buffalo.
    The total has gone UNDER in 8 of NY Jets’ last 11 games against Buffalo

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of NY Jets’ last 5 games against an opponent in the AFC East division.


    The total has gone UNDER in 9 of NY Jets’ last 10 games against an opponent in the AFC East division.


    The total has gone UNDER in 11 of NY Jets’ last 12 games against an opponent in the AFC East division.


    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of NY Jets’ last 21 games against an opponent in the AFC East division

     

     

     
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    The total has gone UNDER in 6 of NY Jets’ last 8 games played in October

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 7 games played in week 6.

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of NY Jets’ last 5 games played on a Monday when at home.

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 7 games played on a Monday when at home.

     

     

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    The total has gone UNDER in 6 of NY Jets’ last 8 games played in October

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 7 games played in week 6.

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of NY Jets’ last 5 games played on a Monday when at home.

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 7 games played on a Monday when at home.

     

     

     
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    We found out boths teams as strong trends on under coming off loss or after 7 days off.

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to -3.0 Favorite - Vs Conference Opponent - Allowed 21 points or more AGAINST in their last game

    14-3-2 ATS 15-4 SU    8-11-0 O/U <------------

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a Road team - Vs Conference Opponent - After a non division game - Coming off a Road loss

    8-4-0 ATS 7-5 SU       1-11-0  O/U <------------

     

     

    When ANY NFL Team played as a Home team - During the month of October - During Week 4 to 8 - Playing on Monday - Allowed 22 - 28 AGAINST in their last game - Coming off a Road loss

    11-11-0 ATS 12-10    4-18-0 O/U <---------------

     

     

    The Under is 2-10-0 for Bills when played as Away Teamvs American Conference Opponent Last 2 Years (83.33%)
    The Under is 2-9-0 for Bills when played as Away Team After a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years (81.82%)


    The Under is 2-9-0 for Bills when played as Away Team Before a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years (81.82%)


    The Under is 3-13-0 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favorite vs AFC East Division Opponent Since 1996 (81.25%)


    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Coming off vs National Conference Opponent Last 5 Years (80%)


    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team After a Non-Conference Game Last 5 Years (80%)

     

    The Under is 15-25-0 for Bills when played as Away Team Coming off a 2 Losing Streak Since 1996

     

    The Under is 8-12-0 for Bills when played as Away TeamComing off a Lost over AFC South division opponent Since 1996


    The Under is 7-21-1 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favorite Coming off vs American Conference Opponent Since 1996


    The Under is 3-7-0 for Bills when played as Away Team Coming off vs AFC South Division Opponent Last 10 Years


    The Under is 3-13-0 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favoritevs AFC East Division Opponent Since 1996


    The Under is 5-13-1 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favorite Coming off Back to Back ATS Lost Since 1996

     

     

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    We found out boths teams as strong trends on under coming off loss or after 7 days off.

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to -3.0 Favorite - Vs Conference Opponent - Allowed 21 points or more AGAINST in their last game

    14-3-2 ATS 15-4 SU    8-11-0 O/U <------------

     

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a Road team - Vs Conference Opponent - After a non division game - Coming off a Road loss

    8-4-0 ATS 7-5 SU       1-11-0  O/U <------------

     

     

    When ANY NFL Team played as a Home team - During the month of October - During Week 4 to 8 - Playing on Monday - Allowed 22 - 28 AGAINST in their last game - Coming off a Road loss

    11-11-0 ATS 12-10    4-18-0 O/U <---------------

     

     

    The Under is 2-10-0 for Bills when played as Away Teamvs American Conference Opponent Last 2 Years (83.33%)
    The Under is 2-9-0 for Bills when played as Away Team After a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years (81.82%)


    The Under is 2-9-0 for Bills when played as Away Team Before a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years (81.82%)


    The Under is 3-13-0 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favorite vs AFC East Division Opponent Since 1996 (81.25%)


    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Coming off vs National Conference Opponent Last 5 Years (80%)


    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team After a Non-Conference Game Last 5 Years (80%)

     

    The Under is 15-25-0 for Bills when played as Away Team Coming off a 2 Losing Streak Since 1996

     

    The Under is 8-12-0 for Bills when played as Away TeamComing off a Lost over AFC South division opponent Since 1996


    The Under is 7-21-1 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favorite Coming off vs American Conference Opponent Since 1996


    The Under is 3-7-0 for Bills when played as Away Team Coming off vs AFC South Division Opponent Last 10 Years


    The Under is 3-13-0 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favoritevs AFC East Division Opponent Since 1996


    The Under is 5-13-1 for Bills when played as 0 to 3.0 Away Favorite Coming off Back to Back ATS Lost Since 1996

     

     

     
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    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Coming off vs National Conference Opponent Last 5 Years
    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team After a Non-Conference Game Last 5 Years
    The Under is 4-11-0 for Jets when played as Home Teamvs AFC East Division Opponent Last 5 Years

     

    The Under is 10-21-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Before a Conference Game Last 5 Years


    The Under is 4-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Teamvs American Conference Opponent Last 2 Years

     

    The Under is 6-11-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Played as Home Team Last 2 Years


    The Under is 5-9-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Before a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years

     

    The Under is 10-17-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Playing on Monday Since 1996

    The Under is 9-15-0 for Jets when played as Home Team After a Non-Division Game Last 5 Years

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 Underdog With 7 day off

    ATS Winner 5-6-1 SU Winner 5-7-0 O/U 3-8-1 <----------

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to 3 road Favorite With 7 day off

    ATS Winner 4-2-0 SU Winner 4-2-0 O/U 0-6-0 <-----------

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 home Underdog With 7 day off playing on Monday

    ATS Winner 3-3-0 SU Winner 3-3-0 O/U 1-5-0 <------------

     

     

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    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Coming off vs National Conference Opponent Last 5 Years
    The Under is 2-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Team After a Non-Conference Game Last 5 Years
    The Under is 4-11-0 for Jets when played as Home Teamvs AFC East Division Opponent Last 5 Years

     

    The Under is 10-21-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Before a Conference Game Last 5 Years


    The Under is 4-8-0 for Jets when played as Home Teamvs American Conference Opponent Last 2 Years

     

    The Under is 6-11-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Played as Home Team Last 2 Years


    The Under is 5-9-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Before a Non-Division Game Last 2 Years

     

    The Under is 10-17-0 for Jets when played as Home Team Playing on Monday Since 1996

    The Under is 9-15-0 for Jets when played as Home Team After a Non-Division Game Last 5 Years

     

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 Underdog With 7 day off

    ATS Winner 5-6-1 SU Winner 5-7-0 O/U 3-8-1 <----------

    When BUFFALO BILLS team played as a pk to 3 road Favorite With 7 day off

    ATS Winner 4-2-0 SU Winner 4-2-0 O/U 0-6-0 <-----------

    When NEW YORK JETS team played as a pk to 3 home Underdog With 7 day off playing on Monday

    ATS Winner 3-3-0 SU Winner 3-3-0 O/U 1-5-0 <------------

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2024 - 5:39 PM ET #66

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 16 of NY Jets’ last 22 games against an opponent in the AFC.

    The total has gone UNDER in 8 of NY Jets’ last 11 games against Buffalo

    The total has gone UNDER in 9 of Buffalo’s last 11 games played in October

    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of Buffalo’s last 21 games on the road

    The total has gone UNDER in 8 of Buffalo’s last 11 games against NY Jets

    The total has gone UNDER in 16 of NY Jets’ last 22 games against an opponent in the AFC

    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of NY Jets’ last 21 games against an opponent in the AFC East division

    The total has gone UNDER in 6 of NY Jets’ last 8 games played in October

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 7 games played in week 6

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 7 games played on a Monday when at home

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games when playing on the road against NY Jets

     

    PICK : JETS/BUFFALO UNDER 45.5

     

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    The total has gone UNDER in 16 of NY Jets’ last 22 games against an opponent in the AFC.

    The total has gone UNDER in 8 of NY Jets’ last 11 games against Buffalo

    The total has gone UNDER in 9 of Buffalo’s last 11 games played in October

    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of Buffalo’s last 21 games on the road

    The total has gone UNDER in 8 of Buffalo’s last 11 games against NY Jets

    The total has gone UNDER in 16 of NY Jets’ last 22 games against an opponent in the AFC

    The total has gone UNDER in 15 of NY Jets’ last 21 games against an opponent in the AFC East division

    The total has gone UNDER in 6 of NY Jets’ last 8 games played in October

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 7 games played in week 6

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 5 of NY Jets’ last 7 games played on a Monday when at home

     

    The total has gone UNDER in 4 of Buffalo’s last 5 games when playing on the road against NY Jets

     

    PICK : JETS/BUFFALO UNDER 45.5

     

    Tips for side coming.

     

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2024 - 5:48 PM ET #67

    NFL system

     

    NFL system

    Home Teams (neutral  NY Jets) 45-46-0 SU 49.45 % 40-50-1 ATS 43.96 % 48-42-1 O/U 52.75 %

    Home Underdogs (neutral NY Jets ) 16-12-0 O/U 57.14 %

    Road Teams Neutral ( Buffalo Bills) 46-45-0 SU 50.55% 50-40-1 ATS 54.95 % 48-42-1 O/U 52.75 %

    PK to -3.0 Road Favorites (Neutral Buffalo  Bills ) 10-8-1 ATS 52.63 %

    Home Team and Total 37 to 41 (Neutral NY Jets ) 14-14-0 50% 13-14-1 ATS 46.43%

    Road Team and Total 37 to 41 (Neutral NY Jets ) 14-14-0 50% 14-13-1 ATS 50 %

     

    System saying

     

    Jets as home team is 45-46-0  SU  49.45 % win  but 40-50-1 ATS against spread 43.96 %.

    Buffalo Bills as road team 46-45-0 SU 50.55 % win but 50-40-1 ATS 54.95 % higher results more chance to cover.

     

    Buffalo Bills PK to -3.0 Road favorites 10-8-1 ATS 52.63 % cover spread.

     

    Advantage Buffalo Bills.

     

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    NFL system

     

    NFL system

    Home Teams (neutral  NY Jets) 45-46-0 SU 49.45 % 40-50-1 ATS 43.96 % 48-42-1 O/U 52.75 %

    Home Underdogs (neutral NY Jets ) 16-12-0 O/U 57.14 %

    Road Teams Neutral ( Buffalo Bills) 46-45-0 SU 50.55% 50-40-1 ATS 54.95 % 48-42-1 O/U 52.75 %

    PK to -3.0 Road Favorites (Neutral Buffalo  Bills ) 10-8-1 ATS 52.63 %

    Home Team and Total 37 to 41 (Neutral NY Jets ) 14-14-0 50% 13-14-1 ATS 46.43%

    Road Team and Total 37 to 41 (Neutral NY Jets ) 14-14-0 50% 14-13-1 ATS 50 %

     

    System saying

     

    Jets as home team is 45-46-0  SU  49.45 % win  but 40-50-1 ATS against spread 43.96 %.

    Buffalo Bills as road team 46-45-0 SU 50.55 % win but 50-40-1 ATS 54.95 % higher results more chance to cover.

     

    Buffalo Bills PK to -3.0 Road favorites 10-8-1 ATS 52.63 % cover spread.

     

    Advantage Buffalo Bills.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2024 - 6:34 PM ET #68

    Love the under too. Only thing is I got it at 40.5-41. Did you buy points?

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    Love the under too. Only thing is I got it at 40.5-41. Did you buy points?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2024 - 6:36 PM ET #69

    lol over under is 41.5 never was 45.5

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    lol over under is 41.5 never was 45.5

     
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    Yes I bought some points I have two tickets U41.5 and U45.5 let's cash thumbs_up

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    Yes I bought some points I have two tickets U41.5 and U45.5 let's cash thumbs_up

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2024 - 6:15 PM ET #71

    New Orleans Saints  / Denver Brancos

    Anonyme System let's take a look on original total.

    Open up at 23.5  next day 36.5  two days later 37 down 35 to be 35.5 to finish at 37 and locked.

     

    COGO boths teams is fixed 38 % meaning percentage over for boths teams.

    It means on percentage 100 % as 62 % chance this game goes under  total.

     

    PICK : SAINTS/BRANCOS UNDER 41.5

     

     

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    New Orleans Saints  / Denver Brancos

    Anonyme System let's take a look on original total.

    Open up at 23.5  next day 36.5  two days later 37 down 35 to be 35.5 to finish at 37 and locked.

     

    COGO boths teams is fixed 38 % meaning percentage over for boths teams.

    It means on percentage 100 % as 62 % chance this game goes under  total.

     

    PICK : SAINTS/BRANCOS UNDER 41.5

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2024 - 6:51 PM ET #72

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     just to be clear, you bought 4 POINTS on the under? Cause the under has been in the 37-37.5 range, nowhere close to even 40

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     just to be clear, you bought 4 POINTS on the under? Cause the under has been in the 37-37.5 range, nowhere close to even 40

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 7:54 PM ET #73

    NFL Monday night

     

    Buccanners/Ravens

     

     

    Baltimore Ravens -3.5 ( -192 ) Vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Total:48.5)

    When ANY NFL Team played as a Home team - Playing on Monday - During Week 4 to 8 - During the month of October - Scored 27 points or less AGAINST in their last game - Coming off a Road win as a Favorite

    17-5-1 ATS 20-3 SU 14-9-0 O/U

    When BALTIMORE RAVENS team played as Road team as a Favorite - Coming off vs National Conference opponent - Coming off back to back SU wins - Allowed 24 points or less AGAINST in their last game

    5-5-0 ATS 8-2 SU 5-5-0 O/U

    When BALTIMORE RAVENS team played as Road team as a Favorite - Coming off vs National Conference opponent - Coming off back to back SU wins - Allowed 24 points or less AGAINST in their last game

    5-5-0 ATS 8-2 SU 5-5-0 O/U

     

    Away Record (L10G): vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    SU: 4-1 ATS: 4-1-0

    Overall Record (L10G): vs. Baltimore Ravens

    SU: 2-8 ATS: 4-6-0

     

     

    When TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS team Played as Home Team Vs A Grade and Value Index as Bullish 100 Records

    ATS Winner 1-5-2 SU Winner 1-6-0 O/U 2-5-0

    When BALTIMORE RAVENS team Played as Road Team Vs A Grade and Value Index as Neutral 100 Records

    ATS Winner 4-3-2 SU Winner 4-4-0 O/U 3-5-0

     

     

     

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    NFL Monday night

     

    Buccanners/Ravens

     

     

    Baltimore Ravens -3.5 ( -192 ) Vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Total:48.5)

    When ANY NFL Team played as a Home team - Playing on Monday - During Week 4 to 8 - During the month of October - Scored 27 points or less AGAINST in their last game - Coming off a Road win as a Favorite

    17-5-1 ATS 20-3 SU 14-9-0 O/U

    When BALTIMORE RAVENS team played as Road team as a Favorite - Coming off vs National Conference opponent - Coming off back to back SU wins - Allowed 24 points or less AGAINST in their last game

    5-5-0 ATS 8-2 SU 5-5-0 O/U

    When BALTIMORE RAVENS team played as Road team as a Favorite - Coming off vs National Conference opponent - Coming off back to back SU wins - Allowed 24 points or less AGAINST in their last game

    5-5-0 ATS 8-2 SU 5-5-0 O/U

     

    Away Record (L10G): vs. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

    SU: 4-1 ATS: 4-1-0

    Overall Record (L10G): vs. Baltimore Ravens

    SU: 2-8 ATS: 4-6-0

     

     

    When TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS team Played as Home Team Vs A Grade and Value Index as Bullish 100 Records

    ATS Winner 1-5-2 SU Winner 1-6-0 O/U 2-5-0

    When BALTIMORE RAVENS team Played as Road Team Vs A Grade and Value Index as Neutral 100 Records

    ATS Winner 4-3-2 SU Winner 4-4-0 O/U 3-5-0

     

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 7:59 PM ET #74

     

    -3.5 to -6.5 Road Favorites ( Ravens bullish) 9-2-0 SU 81.82 % 8-3-0 ATS 72.73 % <----

    PK to +3.0 Underdogs(neutral Tampa ) 29-23-0 O/U 55.77 % <------

    Road Favorites ( Ravens bullish) 23-7-0 SU 76.67 % 20-9-1 ATS 66.67 % 18-12-0 O/U 60 % <-----

    Home Teams Neutral 45-48-0 SU 48.39 % 40-52-1 ATS 43.01 % 50-42-1 O/U 53.76 %

     

     

     

    Tampa Bay are 1-10 SU in their last 11 games against an opponent in the AFC North division.

    Tampa Bay are 2-9 SU in their last 11 games against Baltimore

    Baltimore are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games.

    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Baltimore’s last 5 games

    The total has gone UNDER in 6 of Baltimore’s last 8 games against Tampa Bay

     

    Baltimore are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games on the road

    Baltimore are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games on the road

    Baltimore are 5-0 SU in their last 5 games against an opponent in the NFC South division

    Baltimore are 5-0 SU in their last 5 games played in October

    Baltimore are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 games played in week 7

    Baltimore are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games played on a Monday

    Baltimore are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games when playing as the favourite

     

     

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    -3.5 to -6.5 Road Favorites ( Ravens bullish) 9-2-0 SU 81.82 % 8-3-0 ATS 72.73 % <----

    PK to +3.0 Underdogs(neutral Tampa ) 29-23-0 O/U 55.77 % <------

    Road Favorites ( Ravens bullish) 23-7-0 SU 76.67 % 20-9-1 ATS 66.67 % 18-12-0 O/U 60 % <-----

    Home Teams Neutral 45-48-0 SU 48.39 % 40-52-1 ATS 43.01 % 50-42-1 O/U 53.76 %

     

     

     

    Tampa Bay are 1-10 SU in their last 11 games against an opponent in the AFC North division.

    Tampa Bay are 2-9 SU in their last 11 games against Baltimore

    Baltimore are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games.

    The total has gone OVER in 4 of Baltimore’s last 5 games

    The total has gone UNDER in 6 of Baltimore’s last 8 games against Tampa Bay

     

    Baltimore are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games on the road

    Baltimore are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games on the road

    Baltimore are 5-0 SU in their last 5 games against an opponent in the NFC South division

    Baltimore are 5-0 SU in their last 5 games played in October

    Baltimore are 2-5 ATS in their last 7 games played in week 7

    Baltimore are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games played on a Monday

    Baltimore are 4-1 SU in their last 5 games when playing as the favourite

     

     

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 21, 2024 - 8:05 PM ET #75

    My god anonyme..so whats the play? By the time you finish all your analysis, game prob already started..

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    My god anonyme..so whats the play? By the time you finish all your analysis, game prob already started..

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