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    DB51daBEARS
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2021 - 1:02 AM ET #51

    Was that your doorbell, Saints???  Your meds have arrived.  Follow the label's instructions please.

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2021 - 1:03 AM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by newmarket:

    Who remembered that primetime game Steelers and Chargers when Polomalu picked up a fumble and scored at the end of the game but they didn't count it.. he wasn't touched nothing.. it obviously made the Chargers cover..  I didn't bet on that game and it was all over sports media.. Also you all need to watch the video when Godell admits they fix games so they can get more revenue from viewers..  who wants to watch Jacksonville play the Eagles in Superbowl..

    I remember it well but these fools believe it's just a bad call and it's the way the ball bounces.

    Closed minded fools they are. I could list 50 rigged games minimum and they would find some stupid reason that it's not rigged. I get it though. It would literally crush them to know their beloved sport is fake. Like when people found out wrestling was scripted.

    "It's still real to me Dammit!! “

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    Who remembered that primetime game Steelers and Chargers when Polomalu picked up a fumble and scored at the end of the game but they didn't count it.. he wasn't touched nothing.. it obviously made the Chargers cover..  I didn't bet on that game and it was all over sports media.. Also you all need to watch the video when Godell admits they fix games so they can get more revenue from viewers..  who wants to watch Jacksonville play the Eagles in Superbowl..

    I remember it well but these fools believe it's just a bad call and it's the way the ball bounces.

    Closed minded fools they are. I could list 50 rigged games minimum and they would find some stupid reason that it's not rigged. I get it though. It would literally crush them to know their beloved sport is fake. Like when people found out wrestling was scripted.

    "It's still real to me Dammit!! “

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2021 - 1:07 AM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by DB51daBEARS:

    Was that your doorbell, Saints???  Your meds have arrived.  Follow the label's instructions please.

     

    Be honest. Admit you saw an nfl game you thought was fixed. Just one. If you can't it's because you are blind and you're using screen readers to reply to any messages on this board. 

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    Was that your doorbell, Saints???  Your meds have arrived.  Follow the label's instructions please.

     

    Be honest. Admit you saw an nfl game you thought was fixed. Just one. If you can't it's because you are blind and you're using screen readers to reply to any messages on this board. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2021 - 1:13 AM ET #54

    Here's what I WILL ADMIT, Saints...we've all seen bad calls.

    Let me know when you have people willing to go on TV, or in front of Congress, claiming that they've FIXED NFL games.

    Now you try some honesty...do you have any proof?  Not even a leg-breaker?  Maybe a local boss?

    And that's a wrap.  

    Or maybe your friend in Southie will put you on to Yale @ UConn Saturday.  I hear the Yale QB has a jones for the white powder.  His dad will handle any jam ups, so he thinks he's golden.  Whadaya say...the Elis throw the game?

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    Here's what I WILL ADMIT, Saints...we've all seen bad calls.

    Let me know when you have people willing to go on TV, or in front of Congress, claiming that they've FIXED NFL games.

    Now you try some honesty...do you have any proof?  Not even a leg-breaker?  Maybe a local boss?

    And that's a wrap.  

    Or maybe your friend in Southie will put you on to Yale @ UConn Saturday.  I hear the Yale QB has a jones for the white powder.  His dad will handle any jam ups, so he thinks he's golden.  Whadaya say...the Elis throw the game?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2021 - 7:18 AM ET #55

    @DB51daBEARS

     My proof is my eyes and years of watching this game. When you see funny shit happen over and over again that makes absolutely no sense football wise, except other than to cover or not cover a bunch of numbers, it's no longer about the game.

     

    No, I haven't seen a backroom deal. No bookie or anything. I did see a bookie that mentioned a rigged Ncaaf game years ago and the line was taken down because of the amount of money pouring in. And it was 100% rigged. I've read enough and seen enough that I don't believe the NFL is a real football game at all. 

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     My proof is my eyes and years of watching this game. When you see funny shit happen over and over again that makes absolutely no sense football wise, except other than to cover or not cover a bunch of numbers, it's no longer about the game.

     

    No, I haven't seen a backroom deal. No bookie or anything. I did see a bookie that mentioned a rigged Ncaaf game years ago and the line was taken down because of the amount of money pouring in. And it was 100% rigged. I've read enough and seen enough that I don't believe the NFL is a real football game at all. 

     
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    @DB51daBEARS

     My proof is my eyes and years of watching this game. When you see funny shit happen over and over again that makes absolutely no sense football wise, except other than to cover or not cover a bunch of numbers, it's no longer about the game.

     

    No, I haven't seen a backroom deal. No bookie or anything. I did see a bookie that mentioned a rigged Ncaaf game years ago and the line was taken down because of the amount of money pouring in. And it was 100% rigged. I've read enough and seen enough that I don't believe the NFL is a real football game at all. 

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     My proof is my eyes and years of watching this game. When you see funny shit happen over and over again that makes absolutely no sense football wise, except other than to cover or not cover a bunch of numbers, it's no longer about the game.

     

    No, I haven't seen a backroom deal. No bookie or anything. I did see a bookie that mentioned a rigged Ncaaf game years ago and the line was taken down because of the amount of money pouring in. And it was 100% rigged. I've read enough and seen enough that I don't believe the NFL is a real football game at all. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2021 - 8:07 AM ET #57

    @DB51daBEARS peace_5
    Love your replies mah man an_light

    Too many people on Covers are spending or wasting way too much of their time politicizing & whining about sports sleep2

    Make a pick and GTFO of the house or smelly basement and get some fresh air or something an_horse

    These ongoing BORING multiple fixed, rigged or scripted or whatever the F*ck wanna call threads are getting old as

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    Blah blah blah WTF!!an_slap………. I’m just saying an_violin

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    @DB51daBEARS peace_5
    Love your replies mah man an_light

    Too many people on Covers are spending or wasting way too much of their time politicizing & whining about sports sleep2

    Make a pick and GTFO of the house or smelly basement and get some fresh air or something an_horse

    These ongoing BORING multiple fixed, rigged or scripted or whatever the F*ck wanna call threads are getting old as

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    Blah blah blah WTF!!an_slap………. I’m just saying an_violin

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan1977:

    @DB51daBEARS  My proof is my eyes and years of watching this game. When you see funny shit happen over and over again that makes absolutely no sense football wise, except other than to cover or not cover a bunch of numbers, it's no longer about the game.   No, I haven't seen a backroom deal. No bookie or anything. I did see a bookie that mentioned a rigged Ncaaf game years ago and the line was taken down because of the amount of money pouring in. And it was 100% rigged. I've read enough and seen enough that I don't believe the NFL is a real football game at all.

    great any clue if what games the cloak of shadows have fixed this sunday???? 

    Simple I bet to win anything to facilate the goal winning money is always appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saintsfan1977:

    @DB51daBEARS  My proof is my eyes and years of watching this game. When you see funny shit happen over and over again that makes absolutely no sense football wise, except other than to cover or not cover a bunch of numbers, it's no longer about the game.   No, I haven't seen a backroom deal. No bookie or anything. I did see a bookie that mentioned a rigged Ncaaf game years ago and the line was taken down because of the amount of money pouring in. And it was 100% rigged. I've read enough and seen enough that I don't believe the NFL is a real football game at all.

    great any clue if what games the cloak of shadows have fixed this sunday???? 

    Simple I bet to win anything to facilate the goal winning money is always appreciated.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2021 - 8:48 AM ET #59

    Last time its.rigged fixed noise.interupted.my little game.

    Was online poker.

    Remember when you could play full tilt in fuzzy slippers in your home.

    This idiot regurgitation began its rigged.... 

    Congress in its ever craft needs to convene a computer to look into the integrity of sports entertainment???? I getting nausea feelings again that enough losers who have discrepancies in Any game they sensed it was wrong that they lost is going lead to a removal of sports gambling Again.. 

    Where reality if you can  not pick a winner you opinion you can't win anything at gambling.....then simply cap as you do and pick the other tram...

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    Last time its.rigged fixed noise.interupted.my little game.

    Was online poker.

    Remember when you could play full tilt in fuzzy slippers in your home.

    This idiot regurgitation began its rigged.... 

    Congress in its ever craft needs to convene a computer to look into the integrity of sports entertainment???? I getting nausea feelings again that enough losers who have discrepancies in Any game they sensed it was wrong that they lost is going lead to a removal of sports gambling Again.. 

    Where reality if you can  not pick a winner you opinion you can't win anything at gambling.....then simply cap as you do and pick the other tram...

     
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    Ers team....

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    Ers team....

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2021 - 1:51 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by DB51daBEARS:

    Here's what I WILL ADMIT, Saints...we've all seen bad calls. Let me know when you have people willing to go on TV, or in front of Congress, claiming that they've FIXED NFL games. Now you try some honesty...do you have any proof?  Not even a leg-breaker?  Maybe a local boss? And that's a wrap.   Or maybe your friend in Southie will put you on to Yale @ UConn Saturday.  I hear the Yale QB has a jones for the white powder.  His dad will handle any jam ups, so he thinks he's golden.  Whadaya say...the Elis throw the game?

     

    LMAO 14-0 UCONN at the half...hmmmm

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    Here's what I WILL ADMIT, Saints...we've all seen bad calls. Let me know when you have people willing to go on TV, or in front of Congress, claiming that they've FIXED NFL games. Now you try some honesty...do you have any proof?  Not even a leg-breaker?  Maybe a local boss? And that's a wrap.   Or maybe your friend in Southie will put you on to Yale @ UConn Saturday.  I hear the Yale QB has a jones for the white powder.  His dad will handle any jam ups, so he thinks he's golden.  Whadaya say...the Elis throw the game?

     

    LMAO 14-0 UCONN at the half...hmmmm

     
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    Thanks much, Mac...appreciate you !!!

    an_cheers  clover

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    Thanks much, Mac...appreciate you !!!

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     I think you are really on to something here,  I mean a famous coach can't dodge a 10 year old email and lose a 100 million dollar job.  But we have all these people involved in fixing games,  players, bettors, referees, or somebody is fixing something, I mean during the two-minute warning the reef's get together in the locker room and call Vegas and ask, Ok what do you guys need us to do here,  and they have gotten away with for what 50 or 60 years.  Yes that makes perfect sense to me. 

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     I think you are really on to something here,  I mean a famous coach can't dodge a 10 year old email and lose a 100 million dollar job.  But we have all these people involved in fixing games,  players, bettors, referees, or somebody is fixing something, I mean during the two-minute warning the reef's get together in the locker room and call Vegas and ask, Ok what do you guys need us to do here,  and they have gotten away with for what 50 or 60 years.  Yes that makes perfect sense to me. 

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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2021 - 9:34 PM ET #64

    Quote Originally Posted by brysonlee:

    I’m not crying because I lost a bet but I see lots of people crying rigged and people saying they just lost and they’re just mad, but I’m new to actual betting on sports and am curious how in gods name can Vegas make a line and spread of an nfl game, an over of 52.5 and -7.5, and the final play be the play that can make or break both scenarios? Like if they kicked a fg which they could have, the spread would’ve lost, and the over would’ve hit, how is it possible for Vegas to actually predict that when there can LITERALLY be any outcome possible to any given game? It’s just mind boggling to me how they get the line “perfect” a lot of the times, there’s over a million probabilities and they get it down to the last play.. to have 50 points with a minute left, and the 3 point fg could have made the spread not cover and the over hit seems like 1 in a million, it’s like they take the timeouts just to see where the money is and end is accordingly

     

    It's really not that hard to make lines for games. I make my own lines using advanced metrics with efficiency stats, each state carries a certain value , add them up and that is used to make the line.

    My line  will be almost the same as Vegas line with a few games not.

    At times my line will actually be closer to the final score then the Vegas line.

    If I can do that with a calculator and a pencil just imagine what is possible with a computer and a few math genuis.

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    I’m not crying because I lost a bet but I see lots of people crying rigged and people saying they just lost and they’re just mad, but I’m new to actual betting on sports and am curious how in gods name can Vegas make a line and spread of an nfl game, an over of 52.5 and -7.5, and the final play be the play that can make or break both scenarios? Like if they kicked a fg which they could have, the spread would’ve lost, and the over would’ve hit, how is it possible for Vegas to actually predict that when there can LITERALLY be any outcome possible to any given game? It’s just mind boggling to me how they get the line “perfect” a lot of the times, there’s over a million probabilities and they get it down to the last play.. to have 50 points with a minute left, and the 3 point fg could have made the spread not cover and the over hit seems like 1 in a million, it’s like they take the timeouts just to see where the money is and end is accordingly

     

    It's really not that hard to make lines for games. I make my own lines using advanced metrics with efficiency stats, each state carries a certain value , add them up and that is used to make the line.

    My line  will be almost the same as Vegas line with a few games not.

    At times my line will actually be closer to the final score then the Vegas line.

    If I can do that with a calculator and a pencil just imagine what is possible with a computer and a few math genuis.

     
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    every game doesnt land on the number dude 

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     I read before Thursday’s game that Brady had gone 0-10 against the spread in prime time so I bet 4 parlays one TB-7. 2 that TB on the money line and 1 with Philly +7. Up by 21 in the third until tom throws two picks and several uncatchable passes and all of a sudden Brady’s 0-11 ats in prime time. Does anyone believe Brady goes 0 for anything unless he chooses too?  I’m glad I saw that stat before I bet but I haven’t trusted the nfl for along time. They sure can keep the prime time games within a score most times don’t they. One game on they have to keep their audience interested that’s how all great movies work. 

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     I read before Thursday’s game that Brady had gone 0-10 against the spread in prime time so I bet 4 parlays one TB-7. 2 that TB on the money line and 1 with Philly +7. Up by 21 in the third until tom throws two picks and several uncatchable passes and all of a sudden Brady’s 0-11 ats in prime time. Does anyone believe Brady goes 0 for anything unless he chooses too?  I’m glad I saw that stat before I bet but I haven’t trusted the nfl for along time. They sure can keep the prime time games within a score most times don’t they. One game on they have to keep their audience interested that’s how all great movies work. 

     
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     You’re a Saints fan and you don’t think it’s rigged? You didn’t see the refs rob the Saints against LA in the playoffs a couple years ago? The ref had his hand on the flag and never pulled it guess why? His earpiece told him not too as LA was who the nfl wanted that year. 

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     You’re a Saints fan and you don’t think it’s rigged? You didn’t see the refs rob the Saints against LA in the playoffs a couple years ago? The ref had his hand on the flag and never pulled it guess why? His earpiece told him not too as LA was who the nfl wanted that year. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by brysonlee:

    I’m not crying because I lost a bet but I see lots of  possible to any given game? It’s just mind boggling to me how they get the line “perfect” a lot of the times, there’s over a million probabilities and they get it down to the last play.. to have 50 points with a minute left, and the 3 point fg could have made the spread not cover and the over hit seems like 1 in a million, it’s like they take the timeouts just to see where the money is and end is accordingly
     

    Brilliant reasoning that would make anyone with wisdot take notice.

    But now here comes the excuse logic from a bunch of guys who act like battered wives who never leave. 

    You said it in a way I have difficulty being able to.

    You're quite alone is absolute proof of the difference between reality and fiction. No human alive, or agency could be that lucky on spreads odds,over and over. 

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    I’m not crying because I lost a bet but I see lots of  possible to any given game? It’s just mind boggling to me how they get the line “perfect” a lot of the times, there’s over a million probabilities and they get it down to the last play.. to have 50 points with a minute left, and the 3 point fg could have made the spread not cover and the over hit seems like 1 in a million, it’s like they take the timeouts just to see where the money is and end is accordingly
     

    Brilliant reasoning that would make anyone with wisdot take notice.

    But now here comes the excuse logic from a bunch of guys who act like battered wives who never leave. 

    You said it in a way I have difficulty being able to.

    You're quite alone is absolute proof of the difference between reality and fiction. No human alive, or agency could be that lucky on spreads odds,over and over. 

     
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     Tom Brady was 0-10 ats in prime time games prior to Thursday night. Knowing that three of my four parlays picked TB money line and one Philly +7 and one TB+7. There up 21 points until two Brady interceptions and several uncatchable passes then poof Brady’s 0-11 and I hit the first game on three of my parlays. I just used the information I fold to make my picks but do you really think Brady couldn’t beat the spread 11 times in a row in prime time?

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     Tom Brady was 0-10 ats in prime time games prior to Thursday night. Knowing that three of my four parlays picked TB money line and one Philly +7 and one TB+7. There up 21 points until two Brady interceptions and several uncatchable passes then poof Brady’s 0-11 and I hit the first game on three of my parlays. I just used the information I fold to make my picks but do you really think Brady couldn’t beat the spread 11 times in a row in prime time?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedtan:

    Same way analysts predict the market, pollsters predict elections (trigger warning), supply chain managers predict necessary inputs, etc.  Mountains of data - the world doesn’t become so random with all this data at our disposal. short story: quik maff  oh and speaking of stats..you should look up % of casual gambling winners. Pretty much a scam
     

    Lol at assuming anything is naturally legit in the sticks and elections.

    The wealthy and powerful make those numbers do as they choose. It's not knowledge..it's manipulation.

    Same with sports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedtan:

    Same way analysts predict the market, pollsters predict elections (trigger warning), supply chain managers predict necessary inputs, etc.  Mountains of data - the world doesn’t become so random with all this data at our disposal. short story: quik maff  oh and speaking of stats..you should look up % of casual gambling winners. Pretty much a scam
     

    Lol at assuming anything is naturally legit in the sticks and elections.

    The wealthy and powerful make those numbers do as they choose. It's not knowledge..it's manipulation.

    Same with sports.

     
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     The nfl claimed in court they are in the entertainment business not sports. It’s not illegal to throw a game for entertainment so no ones going before Congress. All 32 teams share the pie they aren’t playing against each other they’re entertaining they’re audience 

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     The nfl claimed in court they are in the entertainment business not sports. It’s not illegal to throw a game for entertainment so no ones going before Congress. All 32 teams share the pie they aren’t playing against each other they’re entertaining they’re audience 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaFazz:

    @saintsfan1977  With your logic, just always bet the team getting less money in the markets. Then the NFL will surely rig enough games for you to win at a consistent rate to retire and never have to work again. Coming in here screaming “RIGGED! RIGGED!” after games is just a coping mechanism for people who can’t accept that they actually aren’t good at sports betting.
     

    A completely false remark. A lazy assumption.

    It has nothing to do with favoritism or losing 

    We are the objective ones. You are the one taking a side. Who losesis irrelevant. It's the why  and how in question. We question, you assume and deflect

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    @saintsfan1977  With your logic, just always bet the team getting less money in the markets. Then the NFL will surely rig enough games for you to win at a consistent rate to retire and never have to work again. Coming in here screaming “RIGGED! RIGGED!” after games is just a coping mechanism for people who can’t accept that they actually aren’t good at sports betting.
     

    A completely false remark. A lazy assumption.

    It has nothing to do with favoritism or losing 

    We are the objective ones. You are the one taking a side. Who losesis irrelevant. It's the why  and how in question. We question, you assume and deflect

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdoubleplay:

    @brysonlee   Quote Originally Posted by brysonlee: I’m not crying because I lost a bet but I see lots of people crying rigged and people saying they just lost and they’re just mad, but I’m new to actual betting on sports and am curious how in gods name can Vegas make a line and spread of an nfl game, an over of 52.5 and -7.5, and the final play be the play that can make or break both scenarios? Like if they kicked a fg which they could have, the spread would’ve lost, and the over would’ve hit, how is it possible for Vegas to actually predict that when there can LITERALLY be any outcome possible to any given game? It’s just mind boggling to me how they get the line “perfect” a lot of the times, there’s over a million probabilities and they get it down to the last play.. to have 50 points with a minute left, and the 3 point fg could have made the spread not cover and the over hit seems like 1 in a million, it’s like they take the timeouts just to see where the money is and end is accordingly  Selective bias. You're looking at the one game that is bang on the spread and total but ignoring games every week where the spread or total are nowhere near.
     

    So? The point is it happens far too often still.

    In the real world hardly any games would be that close. It wouldn't happen every week in multiple games as it does now.

    Jeez,, Josh Allen straight up just fell forward and didn't even try to get a first. 

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    @brysonlee   Quote Originally Posted by brysonlee: I’m not crying because I lost a bet but I see lots of people crying rigged and people saying they just lost and they’re just mad, but I’m new to actual betting on sports and am curious how in gods name can Vegas make a line and spread of an nfl game, an over of 52.5 and -7.5, and the final play be the play that can make or break both scenarios? Like if they kicked a fg which they could have, the spread would’ve lost, and the over would’ve hit, how is it possible for Vegas to actually predict that when there can LITERALLY be any outcome possible to any given game? It’s just mind boggling to me how they get the line “perfect” a lot of the times, there’s over a million probabilities and they get it down to the last play.. to have 50 points with a minute left, and the 3 point fg could have made the spread not cover and the over hit seems like 1 in a million, it’s like they take the timeouts just to see where the money is and end is accordingly  Selective bias. You're looking at the one game that is bang on the spread and total but ignoring games every week where the spread or total are nowhere near.
     

    So? The point is it happens far too often still.

    In the real world hardly any games would be that close. It wouldn't happen every week in multiple games as it does now.

    Jeez,, Josh Allen straight up just fell forward and didn't even try to get a first. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdoubleplay:

    @brysonlee   Quote Originally Posted by brysonlee: I’m not crying because I an over of 52.5 and -7.5, and the final play be the play that can make or break both scenarios? Like if they kicked a fg which they could have, the spread would’ve lost, and the over would’ve hit, how is it possible for Vegas to actually predict that when there can LITERALLY be any outcome possible to any given game? It’s just mind boggling to me how they get the line “perfect” a lot of the times, there’s over a million probabilities and they get it down to the last play.. to have 50 points with a minute left, and the 3 point fg could have made the spread not cover and the over hit seems like 1 in a million, it’s like they take the timeouts just to see where the money is and end is accordingly  Selective bias. You're looking at the one game that is bang on the spread and total but ignoring games every week where the spread or total are nowhere near.
     

    The spread is just one thing.

    Point total etc.. a blowout doesn't mean it's not staged.

     

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    @brysonlee   Quote Originally Posted by brysonlee: I’m not crying because I an over of 52.5 and -7.5, and the final play be the play that can make or break both scenarios? Like if they kicked a fg which they could have, the spread would’ve lost, and the over would’ve hit, how is it possible for Vegas to actually predict that when there can LITERALLY be any outcome possible to any given game? It’s just mind boggling to me how they get the line “perfect” a lot of the times, there’s over a million probabilities and they get it down to the last play.. to have 50 points with a minute left, and the 3 point fg could have made the spread not cover and the over hit seems like 1 in a million, it’s like they take the timeouts just to see where the money is and end is accordingly  Selective bias. You're looking at the one game that is bang on the spread and total but ignoring games every week where the spread or total are nowhere near.
     

    The spread is just one thing.

    Point total etc.. a blowout doesn't mean it's not staged.

     

     
     
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