I always respect your threads and your insight. Everything you are saying makes sense, however much of it is contingent upon the Falcons stopping the Giants pass rush and applying some pressure on Eli. I haven't seen much in the past few weeks to indicate that either of those will happen.
Good luck pal. I'm not on the Giants yet though I'll admit it was a favorite play of mine though you've given me some things to think about.
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I always respect your threads and your insight. Everything you are saying makes sense, however much of it is contingent upon the Falcons stopping the Giants pass rush and applying some pressure on Eli. I haven't seen much in the past few weeks to indicate that either of those will happen.
Good luck pal. I'm not on the Giants yet though I'll admit it was a favorite play of mine though you've given me some things to think about.
Wow, excellent write-up. The one thing that would worry me is Nyg's D-line which is peaking right now (with all 3 bug guns playing at a high level), but to your point, the best neutralizer to a great pass rush is an unstoppable run game.
I was leaning NY, but you may have swayed me the other way.
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Wow, excellent write-up. The one thing that would worry me is Nyg's D-line which is peaking right now (with all 3 bug guns playing at a high level), but to your point, the best neutralizer to a great pass rush is an unstoppable run game.
I was leaning NY, but you may have swayed me the other way.
No need to get defensive. Just voicing an opinion. Matt Ryan out of that dome = failure.
Save your money. BOL
My bad. We'll see what happens Ryan lost both playoff games to teams that ended up making the Super Bowl. He's playing well heading in and I think he steps up and gets his first playoff win here.
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Quote Originally Posted by jbkizzle:
No need to get defensive. Just voicing an opinion. Matt Ryan out of that dome = failure.
Save your money. BOL
My bad. We'll see what happens Ryan lost both playoff games to teams that ended up making the Super Bowl. He's playing well heading in and I think he steps up and gets his first playoff win here.
taking out yesterdays game which was an anomaly, turner has averaged around 3.3 ypc in his last five games in all likelihood due to his lingering groin injury.
if you are making this bet with the premise that turner is going to go for 125+ on 5 ypc you may want to reconsider.
Smith hasn't been burning out Turner too much this year. The Giants don't have a good run D, they only looked good the last few weeks cause they played Sanchez and a banged up Felix Jones
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Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:
taking out yesterdays game which was an anomaly, turner has averaged around 3.3 ypc in his last five games in all likelihood due to his lingering groin injury.
if you are making this bet with the premise that turner is going to go for 125+ on 5 ypc you may want to reconsider.
Smith hasn't been burning out Turner too much this year. The Giants don't have a good run D, they only looked good the last few weeks cause they played Sanchez and a banged up Felix Jones
Have you guys watched both Atlanta and the Giants play this year? Sure the Giants had a few bad games as favorites but common they consistantly put up big numbers. They are rolling now too. Atlanta just so lackluster this year. Playing so average for so much talent. They have consistently have let me down and played below there talent level. I just dont know if riding big on these guys is a good idea do to there underperforming this year.
They aren't really rolling they're 2-1 in their last 3. They just beat two powderpuff teams, one with no QB and a bunch of ego-centric players and one with no balls or guts to win.
Atlanta is a very good team when compared to the Giants. The Falcons have the weapons to beat the Giants, I'd like to hear how the Giants are going to stop the ATL offense.
It's a gutsy play that I'm making backing Mattie Ice on the road outdoors. However, so was backing Flacco who had never won in Pitt earlier this year. This bet won't be easy but I'm confident these proud, dirty birds get it done.
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Quote Originally Posted by mrquija27:
Have you guys watched both Atlanta and the Giants play this year? Sure the Giants had a few bad games as favorites but common they consistantly put up big numbers. They are rolling now too. Atlanta just so lackluster this year. Playing so average for so much talent. They have consistently have let me down and played below there talent level. I just dont know if riding big on these guys is a good idea do to there underperforming this year.
They aren't really rolling they're 2-1 in their last 3. They just beat two powderpuff teams, one with no QB and a bunch of ego-centric players and one with no balls or guts to win.
Atlanta is a very good team when compared to the Giants. The Falcons have the weapons to beat the Giants, I'd like to hear how the Giants are going to stop the ATL offense.
It's a gutsy play that I'm making backing Mattie Ice on the road outdoors. However, so was backing Flacco who had never won in Pitt earlier this year. This bet won't be easy but I'm confident these proud, dirty birds get it done.
Agree best play on the board.. When we agree good things happen..
Giants might be getting healthy but I don't see how they'll be able to stop a well balanced falcons attack. Grimes being back is the key at cornerback. He's one of the very few guys that can handle Cruz's speed.
For the guy from michigan that has watched Atlanta played recently, did you not know Grimes has been injured the last4 weeks and will be healthy this wknd?
Ya completely agree. The Giants don't have any Linebackers or safeties good in coverage so Tony will abuse them and provide a nice safe option if the Giants pressure Ryan. Jones and White are hittin their stride and I'd like to see how this pathetic Giants secondary does against them.
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Quote Originally Posted by Flutiemaniac341:
Agree best play on the board.. When we agree good things happen..
Giants might be getting healthy but I don't see how they'll be able to stop a well balanced falcons attack. Grimes being back is the key at cornerback. He's one of the very few guys that can handle Cruz's speed.
For the guy from michigan that has watched Atlanta played recently, did you not know Grimes has been injured the last4 weeks and will be healthy this wknd?
Ya completely agree. The Giants don't have any Linebackers or safeties good in coverage so Tony will abuse them and provide a nice safe option if the Giants pressure Ryan. Jones and White are hittin their stride and I'd like to see how this pathetic Giants secondary does against them.
I haven't watched a ton of Falcons games this year. Are they smart enough to call mostly quick 3 step drop passes? The Umenyiora/Tuck/Pierre Paul Trio haven't played a bunch together this year cause of injuries, but when they do, like this week at home, it can be a little distracting for QBs. I see Atl OL is 7th best in sack rate. That bodes well for 'em.
Atl's only "quality win" is @ Det. The rest of their wins are against some pretty poor teams. At least NYG won @ NE.
Why not? They know the Giants only defensive strength is their pass rush so Gonzo will be open short. Also Turner will get many carries and I expect them to throw it deep on the G-Men secondary to keep em honest if their safeties creep up to stop the run.
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Quote Originally Posted by YouWish:
I haven't watched a ton of Falcons games this year. Are they smart enough to call mostly quick 3 step drop passes? The Umenyiora/Tuck/Pierre Paul Trio haven't played a bunch together this year cause of injuries, but when they do, like this week at home, it can be a little distracting for QBs. I see Atl OL is 7th best in sack rate. That bodes well for 'em.
Atl's only "quality win" is @ Det. The rest of their wins are against some pretty poor teams. At least NYG won @ NE.
Why not? They know the Giants only defensive strength is their pass rush so Gonzo will be open short. Also Turner will get many carries and I expect them to throw it deep on the G-Men secondary to keep em honest if their safeties creep up to stop the run.
My bad. We'll see what happens Ryan lost both playoff games to teams that ended up making the Super Bowl. He's playing well heading in and I think he steps up and gets his first playoff win here.
Thats big time there.............both of those teams did end up in the super bowl & one of them won it............the other had the lead with less than a few minutes & lost it at the end...........Falcons are definitely the team in this game & 3rd time is a charm for Ryan..............
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Quote Originally Posted by mtbaker:
My bad. We'll see what happens Ryan lost both playoff games to teams that ended up making the Super Bowl. He's playing well heading in and I think he steps up and gets his first playoff win here.
Thats big time there.............both of those teams did end up in the super bowl & one of them won it............the other had the lead with less than a few minutes & lost it at the end...........Falcons are definitely the team in this game & 3rd time is a charm for Ryan..............
I haven't watched a ton of Falcons games this year. Are they smart enough to call mostly quick 3 step drop passes? The Umenyiora/Tuck/Pierre Paul Trio haven't played a bunch together this year cause of injuries, but when they do, like this week at home, it can be a little distracting for QBs. I see Atl OL is 7th best in sack rate. That bodes well for 'em.
Atl's only "quality win" is @ Det. The rest of their wins are against some pretty poor teams. At least NYG won @ NE. [/Quote
Paul is the only one having a great year. Tuck hasn't been great against the run and Umenyiora hasn't done much this year and I expect the Falcons to hold up with their solid O-Line that is probably tired of hearing about this G-Men D-Line.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by YouWish]
I haven't watched a ton of Falcons games this year. Are they smart enough to call mostly quick 3 step drop passes? The Umenyiora/Tuck/Pierre Paul Trio haven't played a bunch together this year cause of injuries, but when they do, like this week at home, it can be a little distracting for QBs. I see Atl OL is 7th best in sack rate. That bodes well for 'em.
Atl's only "quality win" is @ Det. The rest of their wins are against some pretty poor teams. At least NYG won @ NE. [/Quote
Paul is the only one having a great year. Tuck hasn't been great against the run and Umenyiora hasn't done much this year and I expect the Falcons to hold up with their solid O-Line that is probably tired of hearing about this G-Men D-Line.
Great write-up mtBAKER. Good Luck on this big bet. I think it will be a close game. I noticed you have some money on the RAVENS to win the superbowl. How do you feel about that bet going into the post season?
Tough call man. They've overcame a lot of adversity. However the Pats are going to be tough as I don't think Flacco can completely expose their secondary. I think they got a shot but I wouldn't unload on it.
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Quote Originally Posted by shivaseven:
Great write-up mtBAKER. Good Luck on this big bet. I think it will be a close game. I noticed you have some money on the RAVENS to win the superbowl. How do you feel about that bet going into the post season?
Tough call man. They've overcame a lot of adversity. However the Pats are going to be tough as I don't think Flacco can completely expose their secondary. I think they got a shot but I wouldn't unload on it.
Wow, excellent write-up. The one thing that would worry me is Nyg's D-line which is peaking right now (with all 3 bug guns playing at a high level), but to your point, the best neutralizer to a great pass rush is an unstoppable run game.
I was leaning NY, but you may have swayed me the other way.
I think ATL has a good O-Line and have a ton of weapons to expose the other weaknesses on this Giants team. BOL with whatever you play.
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Quote Originally Posted by FL4wL3s5:
Wow, excellent write-up. The one thing that would worry me is Nyg's D-line which is peaking right now (with all 3 bug guns playing at a high level), but to your point, the best neutralizer to a great pass rush is an unstoppable run game.
I was leaning NY, but you may have swayed me the other way.
I think ATL has a good O-Line and have a ton of weapons to expose the other weaknesses on this Giants team. BOL with whatever you play.
One other play to go along with the Falcons. I think it's one of the public plays that's gonna cash this weekend.
Texans -3.5 (-111) to win 35 units (On Matchbook)
Their is this notion that the Texans backed into the playoffs, well I feel as though the Bengals really backed their way into the playoffs.
“It’s kind of weird,” said Dalton, who was 22 of 44 for 232 yards with no interceptions or touchdowns. “Obviously we didn’t get it done today, but we still have a chance.”
The Texans definitely feel as though they belong here, but the Bengals are probably shocked that they got in despite being 1-7 versus winning teams. The Bengals played the Texans eariler in the year and they lost that game 20-19 at home blowing a nice 19-6 lead. In that game the Bengals played Tyler Yates in his first road game. The Texans played a horrible game turninng the ball over and Foster was completely bottled up. However, the Bengals still couldn't put them away. The Texans are the better team here and will be in front of their fans. The Texans open up their first ever home playoff game, as their players have played their whole careers to get here. I highly doubt they slow down here and will give it their all. I don't think they'll feel a ton of pressure as their fans know that the team is missing Schaub and Mario Williams and lost 3 games in a row. Reliant Stadium's gonna be rocking.
On offense the Texans have one of the best running games in the league. The Bengals have played the Steelers twice, Browns, Texans, and Ravens twice over the past 6-7 weeks. Those teams are very physical. Since the injury to DL Sims and these physical games, the Bengals run D isn't playing well. Foster should be better here especially cause Andre Johnson is in the lineup. Johnson, Jones, Dressen, Walter and Co. should do fine with Yates who is capable of throwing the ball.
On the other side of the ball the Texans have a solid defense. I don't expect Benson to get much at all on the ground. Jonathan Joseph is one of the best corners in the league and will contain wideout Green. Simpson hasn't done much so the Houston secondary should be fine here. Houston has a great pass rush and will pressure Dalton into some bad throws.
It's very difficult to win in a situation where a team is playing their first home game. If Cincy was a legitimate team feeling underrated I'd side with them here, however I don't think Cincy believes in themselves as in the two-games they called "must-wins" and "biggest games of their lives" they choked home to the Ravens and home to Houston. In their away games against contenders Cincy has been playing from behind the whole game. Gimme the Texans here.
One other play to go along with the Falcons. I think it's one of the public plays that's gonna cash this weekend.
Texans -3.5 (-111) to win 35 units (On Matchbook)
Their is this notion that the Texans backed into the playoffs, well I feel as though the Bengals really backed their way into the playoffs.
“It’s kind of weird,” said Dalton, who was 22 of 44 for 232 yards with no interceptions or touchdowns. “Obviously we didn’t get it done today, but we still have a chance.”
The Texans definitely feel as though they belong here, but the Bengals are probably shocked that they got in despite being 1-7 versus winning teams. The Bengals played the Texans eariler in the year and they lost that game 20-19 at home blowing a nice 19-6 lead. In that game the Bengals played Tyler Yates in his first road game. The Texans played a horrible game turninng the ball over and Foster was completely bottled up. However, the Bengals still couldn't put them away. The Texans are the better team here and will be in front of their fans. The Texans open up their first ever home playoff game, as their players have played their whole careers to get here. I highly doubt they slow down here and will give it their all. I don't think they'll feel a ton of pressure as their fans know that the team is missing Schaub and Mario Williams and lost 3 games in a row. Reliant Stadium's gonna be rocking.
On offense the Texans have one of the best running games in the league. The Bengals have played the Steelers twice, Browns, Texans, and Ravens twice over the past 6-7 weeks. Those teams are very physical. Since the injury to DL Sims and these physical games, the Bengals run D isn't playing well. Foster should be better here especially cause Andre Johnson is in the lineup. Johnson, Jones, Dressen, Walter and Co. should do fine with Yates who is capable of throwing the ball.
On the other side of the ball the Texans have a solid defense. I don't expect Benson to get much at all on the ground. Jonathan Joseph is one of the best corners in the league and will contain wideout Green. Simpson hasn't done much so the Houston secondary should be fine here. Houston has a great pass rush and will pressure Dalton into some bad throws.
It's very difficult to win in a situation where a team is playing their first home game. If Cincy was a legitimate team feeling underrated I'd side with them here, however I don't think Cincy believes in themselves as in the two-games they called "must-wins" and "biggest games of their lives" they choked home to the Ravens and home to Houston. In their away games against contenders Cincy has been playing from behind the whole game. Gimme the Texans here.
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