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master_fader

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 4:17 AM ET #51

Quote Originally Posted by landis1717:

i can't believe people are crying fix, the guy hooked 3 XP already and barely made them all, the 4th and 4 was an obvious decision, the saints offense is too good and their is no way they could kick the FG, and they have no reason to play their starters down 21 there, remember last year when brady got hurt, you think they want to risk that again? i didn't have action on this game, luckily because i most likely would have been on the over, but if NE had any secondary whatsoever this wouldn't have came close, or if NE kept running the ball when it was working well

If you're grandma had balls, she'd be your grandpa

master_fader

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 4:24 AM ET #52

Quote Originally Posted by supadame:

This must be your internet personality. You cannot possibly be this dumb and ignorant in real life.

The game last night had over written all over it. The fact that it did not go over was not because of stellar defense. There were so many points left on the board last night due to boneheaded decisions and mistakes, I can't even remember them all.

Congrats to the under backers, but they lucked out last night and they know it.

Wrong. This game had high scoring written all over it. Hence why the number was set at 55.5 and the public ate it up and pushed it to 57, even 58 someplaces. Just because you look at a game and say to yourself "This has OVER written all over it", Don't you think the oddsmakers know this and jack the price up so high that it'll stay under ??? come on man. You probably had the under in the Steelers/ Ravens game too !!! "This has UNDER written all over it", No, it has low scoring written all over it, but the total is set at 34??? How many Steelers/Ravens games end 20-17 or higher ??? Most of them...

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What the general public doesn't know, is what makes them the general public

mmazella

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 8:16 AM ET #53

Did anyone else have the Vikings over>? They are up 36-10 and go for 2 with 5 fucking minutes left? I know the cheat sheet says you do, but when your up 4 scores you just kick the fucking point.

Icantfeelmyface

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 11:24 AM ET #54

Randomness does not invariably favor some outcomes over others. It evens out in the long run. Luck is more of a feeling or emotion than mathematical fact.

Icantfeelmyface

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 11:25 AM ET #55

Things are unlikely to happen but the reason they are unlikely is is that the happen fewer times than the other outcomes, but they still happen.

Ice4Blood

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 12:35 PM ET #56

Quote Originally Posted by Icantfeelmyface:

Randomness does not invariably favor some outcomes over others. It evens out in the long run. Luck is more of a feeling or emotion than mathematical fact.

no offense... but that's horseshit! randomness DOES invariably favor some over others, because human beings do not live forever, and therefore, within a limited timeframe, it is inevitable that randomness will show favoritism...

that is luck... that is the definition of luck... if you and i are in equal situations, where the circumstances of the outcome do not favor one over the other, and one of us gets favored, that is luck...

sorry man... there's no way around it... you can say it is only the "perception of luck"... but what is the difference!?

luck is what you experience when chance does or does not favor you... so the only way to say there is "no such thing as luck" is to come up with a different word to describe how i just defined luck...

either way, it's all rhetoric... luck (or whatever you want to call it) is undeniable...

Ice4Blood

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 12:38 PM ET #57

Quote Originally Posted by Icantfeelmyface:

Things are unlikely to happen but the reason they are unlikely is is that the happen fewer times than the other outcomes, but they still happen.

well you're just talking about probability here... whereas i'm talking about perspective...

Icantfeelmyface

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 1:37 PM ET #58

We are actually both talking about probability. That is what you talk about when talking about "luck". Something may have gone your way in a 50-50 proposition but over the long haul it will even out. Do you gamble? Do you know what odds are? I guess we are just going to have to agree to disagree because I can not "prove" that there is no such thing as luck. But then again you can not prove that there is.

Icantfeelmyface

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Posted: Dec. 2, 2009 - 1:39 PM ET #59

Perspective? It sounds like you are saying that you have "faith" in luck. Yes some things happen more than others, for example in poker if you have a pair over a pair you will win more times than not. However, there is still that chance that you will lose. No single person is luckier than the next. Do you disagree with this?

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