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bk1374

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 6:44 PM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by DeLoreanStylez:

Show me one time where I said that? I'll wait here.

Didnt say it was you , just see it everytime one of these threads gets posted. Numerous sheep with the wool pulled over their eyes. Sad really

Right, and the counter point to that is how every single time a game ends on a goofy play, or the game ends close the point spread, there are 8000 posts about it being rigged. If you want to talk about "wool over eyes", let's start with the idiot gamblers that cannot accept that maybe they just picked a loser.

Honestly, conspiracy theorists are one of the largest cross-section of "sheeple" I have ever seen. They'll believe ANYTHING you tell them if it mildly supports their wild theories.

But that's cool, everyone can believe whatever they want.

Just going to enjoy the rest of this game.

liontri

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 6:44 PM ET #27

Some of you thought because I lost my bets and cried games are fixed. Read my post. I had Oakland 2h last week, and today I had the under of Seattle and Minny. I WON! I WON! I WON! Get that through your thick skulls first. But, why did I win? Because I was lucky to be on the right side of the fixed. If you guys think sports are so pristine, why are you guys still working? Quit your jobs, sit at home and make a living gambling. If you think athletes played with hearts, dedications, and not for those multi-million dollar contracts, you should win 100% of your bets, right? Oh my, I just saw a unicorn! You guys need to come check it out.

theclaw

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 6:45 PM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by gillster18:

not so fast boys. the league wanted the Jets in the playoffs so bad they threw a pass interference flag in the 4th qtr against the Pats 3 seconds after the play was over and then the coin toss in overtime the ref took care of that one too! Jets blew an engine in Buffalo and could not hold up with no more fixes front the league!

They fix the Pats game but not the Bills game ?

They wanted the Jets in the playoffs soooo bad they decided to just fix 1 game.

Why fix both ?

bk1374

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 6:45 PM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:

You alluded to games NOT being fixed. At least show some balls and own your statement. You just lost all credibility. Refrain from posting on topics you obviously know zero about. Do you even know the history of the NFL ?

The Maras, Rooneys, DeBartolos, Fords, etc ?

Dude, reading is fundamental.

Enjoy the rest of your life. You aren't worth conversing with.

Hawky

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 6:57 PM ET #30

"baldwin, make an incredible catch"

DeLoreanStylez

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 7:18 PM ET #31

The fixing is not done by scripting the games. As pointed out in every single thread by every single non-believer of the fix, it would be to impossible to have so many people cooperate on something like this. The fixing is done through small but influential moves done by the refs. A 10 yard penalty for first down when its 3rd and long at midfield , can be the deciding outcome of a 1 score game. And something so small, would go unnoticed as it is not seen as an "impact" play that something such as a missed fg or a blown coverage 50 yrd td pass would garner.

The Hawk

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 7:40 PM ET #32

Right......................the refs.

Because the NFL doesn't do any background checks whatsoever.

Because they go from high school games, to college, and after so many years of that, finally get to the NFL, and THEN they have their hand out...................

naesiy

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 7:48 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by DeLoreanStylez:

The fixing is not done by scripting the games. As pointed out in every single thread by every single non-believer of the fix, it would be to impossible to have so many people cooperate on something like this. The fixing is done through small but influential moves done by the refs. A 10 yard penalty for first down when its 3rd and long at midfield , can be the deciding outcome of a 1 score game. And something so small, would go unnoticed as it is not seen as an "impact" play that something such as a missed fg or a blown coverage 50 yrd td pass would garner.

liontri

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 10:32 PM ET #34

A while back, when Patriots was unstoppable. I remember one game they played against Baltimore that afterward, a Baltimore's player was fined for calling the refs out. Talking about bad officiating and how the league wanted NE to win that game. I don't blame him. He was speaking the truth. When NE was down in that game and was coming back, refs were clearly helping NE. Couple times when the camera caught one of the ref, his hand was already on the flag. If NE made a incomplete pass, he threw the flag for PI. If NE was able to move the ball down field, then he didn't do anything. Yeah, those cameras moved real quick. But 3 times, those cameras caught a real quick glance. Please people, THE WORLD IS NOT HONEST! Don't be such gullible sheep, especially when huge sum of money is involved.

sailorman1965

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Posted: Jan. 10, 2016 - 10:40 PM ET #35

Let's go packers!

fab14

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 5:41 AM ET #36

If you don't think this sport is rigged you need help. How do you miss a 27 yard chip shot

fab14

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 5:43 AM ET #37

Quote Originally Posted by liontri:

A while back, when Patriots was unstoppable. I remember one game they played against Baltimore that afterward, a Baltimore's player was fined for calling the refs out. Talking about bad officiating and how the league wanted NE to win that game. I don't blame him. He was speaking the truth. When NE was down in that game and was coming back, refs were clearly helping NE. Couple times when the camera caught one of the ref, his hand was already on the flag. If NE made a incomplete pass, he threw the flag for PI. If NE was able to move the ball down field, then he didn't do anything. Yeah, those cameras moved real quick. But 3 times, those cameras caught a real quick glance. Please people, THE WORLD IS NOT HONEST! Don't be such gullible sheep, especially when huge sum of money is involved.

fadeORdie

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 6:20 AM ET #38

Glad to see like-minded intelligent people here.

The Hawk

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 10:19 AM ET #39

Okay, let me see if I have this straight.

NFL games are rigged, and yet you still bet on them............

...............and I'm the dense one?

LETGOPACK1234

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 10:33 AM ET #40

Sports aren't fixed, and Tim Donaghy didnt go to jail for fixing games either

People who cry and claim sports aren't fixed and people who believe they are need help, are the ones whom really need help...open your eyes

To claim sports are not fixed, is just ignorant is people have gone to jail for it..it happens it every sport (basketball, soccer), college teams have been suspended for it....and yet people claim it doesnt happen??

BlackCannons

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 10:59 AM ET #41

I don't usually discount conspiracy theories without knowing exactly what i'm talking about- but this is ridiculous. Obviously games are fixed but they involve a few people per game, not thousands..... and the Blair Walsh Project was trying to make that kick

Wizerguy

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 11:28 AM ET #42

I believe certain games can be messed with. New England @ Indy this year when NE had the game in hand by DD and they let Andrew Luck come down with ease and score TD to cover the spread. I had the game on Tivo and replayed it over and over.. NE's defensive linemen should of received an academy award for that series. I believe that there could be certain games that can be tampered with. Minnesota's game wasn't one of them...

- The storms will come, the storms will pass -

bk1374

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 12:28 PM ET #43

Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:

OH, AND IF YOU THINK PLAYERS ARE ABOVE IT ALL, THINK AGAIN. HERE'S A CLIP OF A PLAYER TELLING ANOTHER HOW TO "TRY" AND TACKLE HIM.

LET ME EXPLAIN, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY HAD IDIOTS ON HERE SAY THEY SEE NOTHING ABNORMAL:

THE BALL CARRIER MAKES A THUMBS UP SIGN, INDICATING TO THE WOULD BE TACKLER TO GO HIGH. THE TACKLER DOES EXACTLY THAT, AND THE CARRIER DUCKS UNDERNEATH, 2MAKING" THE TACKLER "MISS". UH-HUH

SIMPLE 30 SECOND CLIP WHICH SHOULD TELL YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrWHwS7zTDs

This literally might be the worst example of proof ever used to back up an argument.

Man, I really hope you're not a lawyer, or are required to use any sort of critical thinking in your job.

Seriously though, you can believe whatever you want. Obviously you've been convinced of something and no one can change your mind, I don't blame you for that, humans have been manipulated that way since the dawn of existence. You'd probably enjoy life more if you weren't so paranoid though. Get outside and get some air, and take a break from the internet for a while, I think it might be rotting your brain. Take the blinders off and open up your eyes!! The world is an amazing place.

bk1374

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 1:10 PM ET #44

Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:

There is a major and glaring difference between being acutely aware of what is going on around you, and simply being paranoid. Your mistake is thinking and believing that billionares become billionares by just wanting to make enough to get by.

The world is not what you think it is. But keep those blinders on. You play right into the hands of not only the NFL, but the powers that be.

Your mistake is making huge leaps of assumption about what I do/do not know.

Meanwhile I DO know you posted that silly youtube video as evidence that the NFL is rigged, which tells me A LOT about how you discern information given to you.

You're a typical conspiracy sheeple that can't see the forest for the trees.

(that's the Baldwin thumbs up for you!)

BlackCannons

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 1:11 PM ET #45

Quote Originally Posted by Wizerguy:

I believe certain games can be messed with. New England @ Indy this year when NE had the game in hand by DD and they let Andrew Luck come down with ease and score TD to cover the spread. I had the game on Tivo and replayed it over and over.. NE's defensive linemen should of received an academy award for that series. I believe that there could be certain games that can be tampered with. Minnesota's game wasn't one of them...

'They" let Andrew Luck go 80 yards to score? So the entire New England Defense was in on it?

C'mon man- Do you have any life experience at all? Like that secret wouldn't get out-

Games are fixed, everything is fixed, but it involves a few people...

A ref or two, a player or two and a couple guys making the bets

bk1374

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 1:59 PM ET #46

If you have evidence the NFL is rigging games, congrats. Because that means you hold the key to probably the biggest sports story in history. I say run with it!!

If all you have is more youtube videos or games ending in strange ways, then save it for someone else. I've seen all that. All you have is peripheral speculation, and wild theories, none of which lead anywhere.

Baldwin thumbs up for you again. Go high young man!

bk1374

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 2:58 PM ET #47

Quote Originally Posted by DRIBBLE4LIFE:

Another one bites the dust. You naysayers can always be counted on to make bold statements, then cower when asked to defend them. Don't worry. There are legions like yourself.

Defend what? I'm not making any bold statements. You are beyond the point of being observant. You've made your mind up and nothing will sway you. Show me what you have!! But spare me the youtube links.

**crickets**

OK, how about this. Have any NBA games in the past 20 years been fixed, or had their outcomes swayed to obtain a certain result? Specifically to obtain a certain result in regards to the point spread/gambling??

bk1374

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 3:06 PM ET #48

I mean, imagine if it was your JOB, or even your DUTY to expose the NFL for rigging games. Your presentation starts off with Doug Baldwin's thumb and a missed tackle in a blowout game. To say that would be a swing and a miss is a huge understatement.

But but but but what about Super Bowl III???? Blah blah blah.

You have no evidence. NONE. If you THINK you do, you have no idea what the definition of EVIDENCE is.

bk1374

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 3:10 PM ET #49

..and all this other non-sequitur garbage about wealth and 9/11 are just that. Unrelated.

Oh wow, the government is corrupt is evil?? NO F*&*(KING $HIT SHERLOCK!! Thanks for pointing that out.

I'll check back tomorrow to see what evidence you can produce. I won't call you a coward for not having any, because I KNOW you don't have any.

BlackCannons

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Posted: Jan. 11, 2016 - 3:10 PM ET #50

Quote Originally Posted by bk1374:

Of course- when money is involved...its fixed

Its just a basic law of nature, and to think otherwise is incredibly, almost unbelievably naive...Are you trollin? Just playin dumb?

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