JAY CUTLER

26 INT's this year.  The worst QB's in the league haven't done that.  Their supporting cast sucks, but so do a lot of the bad teams. 

And he cost TWO first round picks and a serviceable QB. 

They could have Orton and TWO top 10 picks....or Cutler. 

Sorry, but I'll take the draft picks any day of the week.   

Look at the top draft picks of the crew running the Bears....they would have found a DUD or just used the player wrong anyhow....it is their track record...how many 1st round picks have made a positive impact in Chi in the last 10 yrs?

Cutler may lead the league in picks but again hes been asking the staff to play Aromoshodu all season...Turners sucks period...52 pass plays vs San Fran...

All the blame shouldnt be on Cutler....if anything blame Lovie for hiring in his staff....he fired good coaches just so he could bring in some more COLOR to the staff...PERIOD...and this will be the reason he'll be looking for a job...

So you justify giving away 2 first rounders because their front office fails in getting good players when they have them. 

So you trust the front office to make a blockbuster trade, but you don't trust them 10 years in a row to make a first round pick that is a great player.  

You're missing the entire point. If he was as good as people think he is, McDaniels would not even had considered moving him in the first place.

If he was as good as people think he is, he would still be in Denver.

Brandon Marshall also demanded a trade and McDaniels absolutely refused to let him go.

So every 1st rd pick is a great player now?They did get Cutler and Knox from the trade they dont count for anything?

You guys act like Cutler is garbage...my point is look at all the decisions this staff has made on players...several have went on to have total career resurections elsewhere...and the ones they keep they move to other positions...Williams@Hester are good examples

Read some of the articles being written in and around this Bears team with insider comments...its time to clean house starting at the top...Mcaskey doesnt give a shit about this team as long as shes raking in the cash

You telling me Orton was a better fit for this team?1 thats right 1 pass play over 30 yds last season...Cutler has taken more sacks this year then he did last 2 seasons...and Cutlers made several plays after evading the rush....something Kyle couldnt do...

Maybe a QB coach that knows the position can help Cutler....something Chi doesnt have...because Lovie hired Pep

Point the finger at Jay all you want....im just saying there are other problems that need to be resolved b4 you flush the kid

Youre missing the point...the new coach came in and tried to shake things up and it cost him his QB...if things dont turn around you think Marshall is gonna remain on this team?There have been articles of the team turning on each other since the fast start...

Denvers lucky to have a few of those MIRACLE wins or theyd be calling for his head already

Point the finger at Jay all you want....im just saying there are other problems that need to be resolved b4 you flush the kid

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And they gave away 2 first round picks.....picks that could have helped them replenish their resources.  I've watched Cutler all year......you give away 2 first round picks and you better get a top 5 QB...he's not close to that.  The fact that they have other issues is even more of an argument to keep their draft picks....and maybe depend on the front office to find a couple of good players.

I know MN is in a funk, but their last 4 #'1's resulted in Adrian Peterson (despite his fumbles, he was worth the pick), C. Greenway, J. Allen (via trade), and P. Harvin.

You can get good picks in the first round IF you make the right ones. 

So look at the picks the Bears have made in the 1st round last several years...did Cutler not make the probowl?

Cutler had great #s when he had guys to throw the ball to...he has been asking for Aromoshodu and it paid dividends yesterday,but it took Lovie and crew months to see this...not only that but Hester was out and Knox got hurt or you still may not have seen as much of the kid as we did...which has been my point last 10 posts but you keep spitting out 1st round picks 1st round picks....

Does Knox look like a promising young player or not?

did Cutler not make the probowl?

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LAST year.  And yeah, Knox looks solid.  But you even admit that Chicago has WAY more issues then Cutler.  Now they gave up 2 first rounders to fill those slots.  If they can't draft first rounders who produce, why do you have confidence that they will fill those holes with other draft picks.  Knox? 

If all that matters is the future how can you say Cutler isnt anywhere near a 1st rd pick when hes already made a probowl look at his stats for his career...look at Denvers pt total w/o him....now hes he got to throw to?

Chi got a talented young QB and a talented WR but theyre being coached by a bunch of flat out losers...PERIOD

They let go of Benson,Columbo the guy that went to Panthers[cant remeber his name] and a few others that are having good careers elsewhere....

All the problems arent due to lack of talent...coaching is a big part..not just the teaching side either but evaluating talent and even the decision as to who plays..Aromoshodu sat on the bench all year...Bennett sat all of last season...Anderson deserves more time so does Gilbert,Bell,Harrison,Beekman...they have alot of young guys that can play when they get their shot..coaching is a major issue with this team

I dont think the Bears are as bad off as you asll make them out to be but time will tell

TO is a headcase but any team would love to have that kind of talent at WR

If all that matters is the future how can you say Cutler isnt anywhere near a 1st rd pick when hes already made a probowl look at his stats for his career...look at Denvers pt total w/o him....now hes he got to throw to?

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He might be worth a 1st round pick....but not 2 first rounders.

TWENTY SEVEN interceptions this year.  You really think that it's all on the supporting cast?  He has a pro bowler caliber player at TE....and receiver that has been to the pro bowl in D. Hester.  And a RB who was all world last year. 

Give me an FN break. 

Again im not saying Cutler is a HOFer just saying he hasnt really been in ideal spot and Knox was the 5th round pick they got in the trade so its not just Cutler for two 1st rounders...Cutler played pretty well in Denver but he needed a RB and a defense with a pulse...

I tried pointing out where this staff has failed...look at the last few seasons since the SB theyve let it fall apart..coaching changes are needed...more so than a roster shake up.Im trying to find an article i read on Lovie and his Tampon 2 defense..touches on how teams have to keep adjusting and Lovie doesnt

They have some young players but who knows if they can play...i certainly dont trust this staff to evaluate them and make roster moves...see Williams at RT..

How many INT's?

Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:

Packattack i see you recently joined........how many accounts do you have here?

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Not as many but our RB led the team in rec....so what?

ok so you would get a defensive guy... and then they would have gotten a Qb because lets face it they didnt have one... are you going to tell me that a qb coming out of college is going to be better than jay cutler?? or has more potential than jay cutler.. come on man get serious