So does AD suck too for smiling during post game intrv after the fumble.......
Did you not see Jays run early in the game?I think hes a gutsy qb playing with young WRs a washed up line and a staff of retard coaches.....took them 12 games to call a bootleg pass...hard to look good when the coach puts you in a tough spot time after time...like i said b4 Cutlers been crying for Aromoshodu to get more time all season....look at the players and coaches Lovie got rid of......HE NEEDS TO GO and he can take Teddy,Ron and the rest of his friends with him
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So does AD suck too for smiling during post game intrv after the fumble.......
Did you not see Jays run early in the game?I think hes a gutsy qb playing with young WRs a washed up line and a staff of retard coaches.....took them 12 games to call a bootleg pass...hard to look good when the coach puts you in a tough spot time after time...like i said b4 Cutlers been crying for Aromoshodu to get more time all season....look at the players and coaches Lovie got rid of......HE NEEDS TO GO and he can take Teddy,Ron and the rest of his friends with him
That's not much of an achievement. Cutler is a lot like Favre in terms of physical ability and tools. They both avoid the rush well and have cannon arms. The difference between the two is Favre has the mental and leadership aspect, whereas Cutler doesn't.
It will come...hes still young and has yet to play with a good RB or defense...
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Quote Originally Posted by Rocktober1954:
That's not much of an achievement. Cutler is a lot like Favre in terms of physical ability and tools. They both avoid the rush well and have cannon arms. The difference between the two is Favre has the mental and leadership aspect, whereas Cutler doesn't.
It will come...hes still young and has yet to play with a good RB or defense...
So does AD suck too for smiling during post game intrv after the fumble.......
Did you not see Jays run early in the game?I think hes a gutsy qb playing with young WRs a washed up line and a staff of retard coaches.....took them 12 games to call a bootleg pass...hard to look good when the coach puts you in a tough spot time after time...like i said b4 Cutlers been crying for Aromoshodu to get more time all season....look at the players and coaches Lovie got rid of......HE NEEDS TO GO and he can take Teddy,Ron and the rest of his friends with him
That I agree with. Being a DEN homer, Cutler was extremely successful when he was rolling out of the pocket and making plays to his TEs, and WOs.
But lets face it, if AP didn't lose that tough fumble and MIN went on to win the game, this thread would be full of bashers, provided this thread even existed.
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Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:
So does AD suck too for smiling during post game intrv after the fumble.......
Did you not see Jays run early in the game?I think hes a gutsy qb playing with young WRs a washed up line and a staff of retard coaches.....took them 12 games to call a bootleg pass...hard to look good when the coach puts you in a tough spot time after time...like i said b4 Cutlers been crying for Aromoshodu to get more time all season....look at the players and coaches Lovie got rid of......HE NEEDS TO GO and he can take Teddy,Ron and the rest of his friends with him
That I agree with. Being a DEN homer, Cutler was extremely successful when he was rolling out of the pocket and making plays to his TEs, and WOs.
But lets face it, if AP didn't lose that tough fumble and MIN went on to win the game, this thread would be full of bashers, provided this thread even existed.
Orton and Cutler are completely different. Orton is a game manager and does a pretty good job at it. Cutler is a gun slinger but he does take too many chances. Today he finally had a good game.
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Orton and Cutler are completely different. Orton is a game manager and does a pretty good job at it. Cutler is a gun slinger but he does take too many chances. Today he finally had a good game.
Thats fine but lets not forget Jay led his team to a big lead....he had ONE bad throw that gave Minn...3pts....the other 27 the Vikes scored cant go on Jay....football is a team sport and so far in his career Jay has yet to play on a balanced team....#1 offense with the 29th Defense doesnt cut it....
Just like Denver last season with the handful of RBs they had and the worst D...its not always the QBs fault...watching this game they talked about how they went over the INTs Jay had and they said all but 3 were his fault???Christ there were at least two week one that werent his fault vs GB...a pop up off a muffed pass in Sea that should have been a catch...Devin fell in San Fran that led to a pk....I can point out a few more,where did they come up with 3?????
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Thats fine but lets not forget Jay led his team to a big lead....he had ONE bad throw that gave Minn...3pts....the other 27 the Vikes scored cant go on Jay....football is a team sport and so far in his career Jay has yet to play on a balanced team....#1 offense with the 29th Defense doesnt cut it....
Just like Denver last season with the handful of RBs they had and the worst D...its not always the QBs fault...watching this game they talked about how they went over the INTs Jay had and they said all but 3 were his fault???Christ there were at least two week one that werent his fault vs GB...a pop up off a muffed pass in Sea that should have been a catch...Devin fell in San Fran that led to a pk....I can point out a few more,where did they come up with 3?????
Thats fine but lets not forget Jay led his team to a big lead....he had ONE bad throw that gave Minn...3pts....the other 27 the Vikes scored cant go on Jay....football is a team sport and so far in his career Jay has yet to play on a balanced team....#1 offense with the 29th Defense doesnt cut it....
Just like Denver last season with the handful of RBs they had and the worst D...its not always the QBs fault...watching this game they talked about how they went over the INTs Jay had and they said all but 3 were his fault???Christ there were at least two week one that werent his fault vs GB...a pop up off a muffed pass in Sea that should have been a catch...Devin fell in San Fran that led to a pk....I can point out a few more,where did they come up with 3?????
What about leading the NFL in red zone picks the last few years? That's football 101. You do not turn the ball over in the red zone. Cutler does it more than anyone. What about the absolute lack of accountability or leadership skills? Other than the people that caught balls from him, how much outrage did you hear from Bronco players when he was shipped out? Hmmmmm...
Cutler is a phenomenal physical talent at QB. Mentally, he needs a LOT of work.
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Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:
Thats fine but lets not forget Jay led his team to a big lead....he had ONE bad throw that gave Minn...3pts....the other 27 the Vikes scored cant go on Jay....football is a team sport and so far in his career Jay has yet to play on a balanced team....#1 offense with the 29th Defense doesnt cut it....
Just like Denver last season with the handful of RBs they had and the worst D...its not always the QBs fault...watching this game they talked about how they went over the INTs Jay had and they said all but 3 were his fault???Christ there were at least two week one that werent his fault vs GB...a pop up off a muffed pass in Sea that should have been a catch...Devin fell in San Fran that led to a pk....I can point out a few more,where did they come up with 3?????
What about leading the NFL in red zone picks the last few years? That's football 101. You do not turn the ball over in the red zone. Cutler does it more than anyone. What about the absolute lack of accountability or leadership skills? Other than the people that caught balls from him, how much outrage did you hear from Bronco players when he was shipped out? Hmmmmm...
Cutler is a phenomenal physical talent at QB. Mentally, he needs a LOT of work.
Put him on a team with a RB that can punch it in...did you see the ATL game this year or the San Fran game?Easy to defend when you know what coming..
Cutler reminds me of a young Elway. Only difference is Elway had a burning desire to win and made it happen with his feet and arm when hell broke loose. He commanded attention from this team. Cutler lacks that passion or he does a poor job of showing it. He just goes off to the sideline and smirk. That is not leadership there. Having said that, personally I'd give him 2 more years before declaring a bust or not.
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Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:
Put him on a team with a RB that can punch it in...did you see the ATL game this year or the San Fran game?Easy to defend when you know what coming..
Cutler reminds me of a young Elway. Only difference is Elway had a burning desire to win and made it happen with his feet and arm when hell broke loose. He commanded attention from this team. Cutler lacks that passion or he does a poor job of showing it. He just goes off to the sideline and smirk. That is not leadership there. Having said that, personally I'd give him 2 more years before declaring a bust or not.
Lack of accountability?Have you seen Jay throwing WRs or TEs under the bus?
Lack of leadership???Was he supposed to come to a new team and tell everybody to bow down???Did you not see Jay talking to the WRs or being the 1st one out to pat guys on the back after several plays????Haters just gonna hate no matter what...hes had an off year in a new system with a tard coaching staff and no line....You guys act like he cant be good...one bad season doesnt make a career...
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Lack of accountability?Have you seen Jay throwing WRs or TEs under the bus?
Lack of leadership???Was he supposed to come to a new team and tell everybody to bow down???Did you not see Jay talking to the WRs or being the 1st one out to pat guys on the back after several plays????Haters just gonna hate no matter what...hes had an off year in a new system with a tard coaching staff and no line....You guys act like he cant be good...one bad season doesnt make a career...
Lack of accountability?Have you seen Jay throwing WRs or TEs under the bus?
Lack of leadership???Was he supposed to come to a new team and tell everybody to bow down???Did you not see Jay talking to the WRs or being the 1st one out to pat guys on the back after several plays????Haters just gonna hate no matter what...hes had an off year in a new system with a tard coaching staff and no line....You guys act like he cant be good...one bad season doesnt make a career...
I saw him give his WR's the death stare when they would drop a ball or something more than once while he was in Denver, it seemed like he never held himself acountable, even if it was a bad throw. I've yet to see anything that points to him being a leader, and if we haven't seen it yet it's likely not there. QB's basically have to be good leaders, they are put into that posistion of running the offense and making sure everyone is happy and doing their jobs. Leadership is something someone has to have, it cannot be taught. For that simple fact I don't think Cutler will ever be an overly succesful quarterback in this league. He's got great physical talent which of course can get you a long way, but when you look at great QB's they are all leaders, they are all mature, and they hold themselves accountable when their team loses. I also think he needs a complete overhaul of his throwing motion if he wants long term success. He gets by on pure arm strength, as he throws off his back foot 50% of the time, but how long will that arm hold up and continue to shoot out lasers? I think he'll end up going down as a good QB, but he won't be anything special.
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Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:
Lack of accountability?Have you seen Jay throwing WRs or TEs under the bus?
Lack of leadership???Was he supposed to come to a new team and tell everybody to bow down???Did you not see Jay talking to the WRs or being the 1st one out to pat guys on the back after several plays????Haters just gonna hate no matter what...hes had an off year in a new system with a tard coaching staff and no line....You guys act like he cant be good...one bad season doesnt make a career...
I saw him give his WR's the death stare when they would drop a ball or something more than once while he was in Denver, it seemed like he never held himself acountable, even if it was a bad throw. I've yet to see anything that points to him being a leader, and if we haven't seen it yet it's likely not there. QB's basically have to be good leaders, they are put into that posistion of running the offense and making sure everyone is happy and doing their jobs. Leadership is something someone has to have, it cannot be taught. For that simple fact I don't think Cutler will ever be an overly succesful quarterback in this league. He's got great physical talent which of course can get you a long way, but when you look at great QB's they are all leaders, they are all mature, and they hold themselves accountable when their team loses. I also think he needs a complete overhaul of his throwing motion if he wants long term success. He gets by on pure arm strength, as he throws off his back foot 50% of the time, but how long will that arm hold up and continue to shoot out lasers? I think he'll end up going down as a good QB, but he won't be anything special.
Lack of accountability?Have you seen Jay throwing WRs or TEs under the bus?
Lack of leadership???Was he supposed to come to a new team and tell everybody to bow down???Did you not see Jay talking to the WRs or being the 1st one out to pat guys on the back after several plays????Haters just gonna hate no matter what...hes had an off year in a new system with a tard coaching staff and no line....You guys act like he cant be good...one bad season doesnt make a career..
Two names for you. Joey Flacco and Matt Ryan.
Both came in as rookies and won the immediate respect of their teammates with their poise and their play, and both quickly became the unquestioned leaders of their offenses.
You're running outta excuses for Jay Cutler.
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Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:
Lack of accountability?Have you seen Jay throwing WRs or TEs under the bus?
Lack of leadership???Was he supposed to come to a new team and tell everybody to bow down???Did you not see Jay talking to the WRs or being the 1st one out to pat guys on the back after several plays????Haters just gonna hate no matter what...hes had an off year in a new system with a tard coaching staff and no line....You guys act like he cant be good...one bad season doesnt make a career..
Two names for you. Joey Flacco and Matt Ryan.
Both came in as rookies and won the immediate respect of their teammates with their poise and their play, and both quickly became the unquestioned leaders of their offenses.
Both came in as rookies and won the immediate respect of their teammates with their poise and their play, and both quickly became the unquestioned leaders of their offenses.
You're running outta excuses for Jay Cutler.
Who says Cutler isn't the leader and doesn't have respect? Sounds like media blather.
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Quote Originally Posted by supadame:
Two names for you. Joey Flacco and Matt Ryan.
Both came in as rookies and won the immediate respect of their teammates with their poise and their play, and both quickly became the unquestioned leaders of their offenses.
You're running outta excuses for Jay Cutler.
Who says Cutler isn't the leader and doesn't have respect? Sounds like media blather.
Who says Cutler isn't the leader and doesn't have respect? Sounds like media blather.
Sounds like a clueless fan.
He didn't have it in Denver. If he did, he wouldn't have gotten shipped out the way he did.
And he doesn't have it in Chicago. Hence no one even attempting to defend him when he was throwing 5 picks a game. Nor anyone really congratulating him or showing him love after the performance last night. It's pretty obvious that he doesn't have a good relationship with his Bears teammates.
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Quote Originally Posted by depeche2:
Who says Cutler isn't the leader and doesn't have respect? Sounds like media blather.
Sounds like a clueless fan.
He didn't have it in Denver. If he did, he wouldn't have gotten shipped out the way he did.
And he doesn't have it in Chicago. Hence no one even attempting to defend him when he was throwing 5 picks a game. Nor anyone really congratulating him or showing him love after the performance last night. It's pretty obvious that he doesn't have a good relationship with his Bears teammates.
He got shipped out because of a new coach...hows that working out by the way......wheres all the threads with those fools making all the future bets on Denver
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He got shipped out because of a new coach...hows that working out by the way......wheres all the threads with those fools making all the future bets on Denver
He got shipped out because of a new coach...hows that working out by the way......wheres all the threads with those fools making all the future bets on Denver
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But if he was as good as folks in here are making him out to be, he wouldn't have gotten shipped out. Period.
And he plays one good game last night and you have total amnesia from last weekend when he throws two red zone picks in the 1ST QUARTER.
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Quote Originally Posted by bucknuts:
He got shipped out because of a new coach...hows that working out by the way......wheres all the threads with those fools making all the future bets on Denver
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But if he was as good as folks in here are making him out to be, he wouldn't have gotten shipped out. Period.
And he plays one good game last night and you have total amnesia from last weekend when he throws two red zone picks in the 1ST QUARTER.
Again when a team CANT run the ball the D gets to sit back and wait....just like Denver last year with the 5RBs...pretty funny they were one of the the best offensive team yet ranked 15th in rushing the ball...that means Cutler was the OFFENSE....
You act like Mcdan came in and wanted Cutler gone...he lied to Jay about the Ocord and then lied again about trying to aquire another QB thats what sent Jay packing...and yet everybody jumped on Jay for it!!!???
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Again when a team CANT run the ball the D gets to sit back and wait....just like Denver last year with the 5RBs...pretty funny they were one of the the best offensive team yet ranked 15th in rushing the ball...that means Cutler was the OFFENSE....
You act like Mcdan came in and wanted Cutler gone...he lied to Jay about the Ocord and then lied again about trying to aquire another QB thats what sent Jay packing...and yet everybody jumped on Jay for it!!!???
The haters are a bunch of tards....notice most of them have join dates of 2009...Kid vegas and the rest of the losers with multiple names....and i know theyre still here under another alias...
Denvers scores 11 less pts per game this year and nothing changed but Cutler on offense,and they got a better RB
Look at some of the games Chi lost this season...Atl,2 GB games,San Fran,Philly....even with the mistakes Cutler and team made they still coulda/shoulda won a few of these...Christ they had two of those games in the bag and mistakes were made by somebody not named JAY
Ill take Cutler over Orton anyday of the week...Cutler forces some balls but thats what happens when you cant run the ball and your OC is a mental midget....
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The haters are a bunch of tards....notice most of them have join dates of 2009...Kid vegas and the rest of the losers with multiple names....and i know theyre still here under another alias...
Denvers scores 11 less pts per game this year and nothing changed but Cutler on offense,and they got a better RB
Look at some of the games Chi lost this season...Atl,2 GB games,San Fran,Philly....even with the mistakes Cutler and team made they still coulda/shoulda won a few of these...Christ they had two of those games in the bag and mistakes were made by somebody not named JAY
Ill take Cutler over Orton anyday of the week...Cutler forces some balls but thats what happens when you cant run the ball and your OC is a mental midget....
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