SEA +3 Or if you want to make an easy extra buck or 2.. just take the SEA ML at +130.
This play is as much fading the absolutley dreadful Browns as it is riding seattles new little wave of momentum.
Since scoring 30 points during a 1-2 start, Seattle now (2-3) has put up 64 in the last two games. That sharp increase can be attributed to a no-huddle offense installed in the second half of a 30-28 loss to Atlanta on Oct. 2 when it scored 21 in the final 25:01.
The Seahawks had season highs in total yards (424) and rushing yards (145) in their last game, a 36-25 road victory over the New York Giants on Oct. 9.
Everyone wants to fade Whitehurst on the road, but Seattle is going to be fresh off their bye week with Whitehurst getting plenty of time taking all of the snaps in practice.
Keep in mind his last start was Jan. 2, when he threw for 192 yards and a TD in place of injured starter Matt Hasselbeck in a 16-6 victory over St. Louis that clinched the NFC West title for Seattle....
The Browns' 30th-ranked rushing attack (81.6 yards per game) , and will be without Peyton Hillis.
The Browns also have Colt Mccoy. Fade Material. The Browns need him to start delivering the ball with better accuracy. The second-year QB is ranked 27th in completion percentage (55.8)
Guys i really love this play..and if anyone has any feedback, I welcome it, positive or negative. I've been trying to look at this game from all angles.
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SEA +3 Or if you want to make an easy extra buck or 2.. just take the SEA ML at +130.
This play is as much fading the absolutley dreadful Browns as it is riding seattles new little wave of momentum.
Since scoring 30 points during a 1-2 start, Seattle now (2-3) has put up 64 in the last two games. That sharp increase can be attributed to a no-huddle offense installed in the second half of a 30-28 loss to Atlanta on Oct. 2 when it scored 21 in the final 25:01.
The Seahawks had season highs in total yards (424) and rushing yards (145) in their last game, a 36-25 road victory over the New York Giants on Oct. 9.
Everyone wants to fade Whitehurst on the road, but Seattle is going to be fresh off their bye week with Whitehurst getting plenty of time taking all of the snaps in practice.
Keep in mind his last start was Jan. 2, when he threw for 192 yards and a TD in place of injured starter Matt Hasselbeck in a 16-6 victory over St. Louis that clinched the NFC West title for Seattle....
The Browns' 30th-ranked rushing attack (81.6 yards per game) , and will be without Peyton Hillis.
The Browns also have Colt Mccoy. Fade Material. The Browns need him to start delivering the ball with better accuracy. The second-year QB is ranked 27th in completion percentage (55.8)
Guys i really love this play..and if anyone has any feedback, I welcome it, positive or negative. I've been trying to look at this game from all angles.
I have the Seahawks myself. I think Whitehurst is actually a better option going forward. The line looks too easy to take Cleveland especially at home. It will be a tight matchup but I see Seattle getting the SU win...Good luck!
I have the Seahawks myself. I think Whitehurst is actually a better option going forward. The line looks too easy to take Cleveland especially at home. It will be a tight matchup but I see Seattle getting the SU win...Good luck!
If I had a gun to my head, I'd bet the Cards + the points. But BOTH the Steelers and the Cards have been way too Jekll and Hyde this year.
I do like the fact Arizona is coming off a well needed bye.
Pittsburgh has won four of five, but those victories have come against teams with a combined 6-16 record. The Steelers have also failed to put together complete performances in most of those games (aka 17-13 victory over Jacksonville last week)
Steelers aging defense is banged up too. They will be without linebacker James Harrison, nose tackle Casey Hampton and defensive end Aaron Smith.
If Beanie Wells has a great game, the Cards keep this one really close. goodluck
If I had a gun to my head, I'd bet the Cards + the points. But BOTH the Steelers and the Cards have been way too Jekll and Hyde this year.
I do like the fact Arizona is coming off a well needed bye.
Pittsburgh has won four of five, but those victories have come against teams with a combined 6-16 record. The Steelers have also failed to put together complete performances in most of those games (aka 17-13 victory over Jacksonville last week)
Steelers aging defense is banged up too. They will be without linebacker James Harrison, nose tackle Casey Hampton and defensive end Aaron Smith.
If Beanie Wells has a great game, the Cards keep this one really close. goodluck
steelers seem to rise up when they looke the worst..they had seasons where they looked shitty for weeks and ended up in the playoffs and winning. cant trust zona with my money ever. steelers will cover this one.
steelers seem to rise up when they looke the worst..they had seasons where they looked shitty for weeks and ended up in the playoffs and winning. cant trust zona with my money ever. steelers will cover this one.
Obviously Whitehurst doesnt have enough starts or stats to give reason why I like him better as a starter than Jackson, I just think in 2 weeks time, Seattle was able to formulate a gameplan to beat the lowely Browns with anyone in the QB position.
Obviously Whitehurst doesnt have enough starts or stats to give reason why I like him better as a starter than Jackson, I just think in 2 weeks time, Seattle was able to formulate a gameplan to beat the lowely Browns with anyone in the QB position.
My play in this one is the over for SEA/CLE. Check out their trends:
*Both are 3-2 O/U
Over is 13-3 in SEA last 16 games overall
Over is 20-8-1 in SEA last 29 games as an underdog
Over is 36-15 in SEA last 51 games on grass
Over is 6-2 in CLE last 8 home games
Also lifted this nugget from Warren Sharp's GetSharp
Since 2005, no team has seen more OVERS on the road than the Seahawks. 65% of their road games have gone over the total and a large part of that is their location and home environment. They are so remote and play in such a tough environment for visiting teams that the vast majority of home games go under (roughly 58% since 2005). This disparity—from 65% OVERS on the road to 58% UNDERS at home—is the largest swing in the NFL.
Since Pete Carroll took over in Seattle, overs have been cashing at a high rate on the road.
And this helps their OVERS on the road, as oddsmakers set their total to account for YTD performance, but that includes so many unders at home. Since Pete Carroll came to town, the tendency to overs is even greater, as 70% of the Seahawks’ games overall (including 75% on the road) have gone OVER. The average total set was 41 and the average total points scored was 46.
When you need points, you need teams to convert in the red zone. No one would guess it, but both Seattle and Cleveland are currently in the top 10 in offensive red zone scoring percentage. Defensively they are both in the middle of the pack, though looking at just the three most recent games, Seattle is third worst in the league.
Don't forget injuries, where Seattle lost their best CB Marcus Trufant to IR earlier this week and the Seahawks may also be starting Charlie Whitehurst at QB, who has better passer rating and YPA (yards per attempt) numbers this season than Tarvaris Jackson
My play in this one is the over for SEA/CLE. Check out their trends:
*Both are 3-2 O/U
Over is 13-3 in SEA last 16 games overall
Over is 20-8-1 in SEA last 29 games as an underdog
Over is 36-15 in SEA last 51 games on grass
Over is 6-2 in CLE last 8 home games
Also lifted this nugget from Warren Sharp's GetSharp
Since 2005, no team has seen more OVERS on the road than the Seahawks. 65% of their road games have gone over the total and a large part of that is their location and home environment. They are so remote and play in such a tough environment for visiting teams that the vast majority of home games go under (roughly 58% since 2005). This disparity—from 65% OVERS on the road to 58% UNDERS at home—is the largest swing in the NFL.
Since Pete Carroll took over in Seattle, overs have been cashing at a high rate on the road.
And this helps their OVERS on the road, as oddsmakers set their total to account for YTD performance, but that includes so many unders at home. Since Pete Carroll came to town, the tendency to overs is even greater, as 70% of the Seahawks’ games overall (including 75% on the road) have gone OVER. The average total set was 41 and the average total points scored was 46.
When you need points, you need teams to convert in the red zone. No one would guess it, but both Seattle and Cleveland are currently in the top 10 in offensive red zone scoring percentage. Defensively they are both in the middle of the pack, though looking at just the three most recent games, Seattle is third worst in the league.
Don't forget injuries, where Seattle lost their best CB Marcus Trufant to IR earlier this week and the Seahawks may also be starting Charlie Whitehurst at QB, who has better passer rating and YPA (yards per attempt) numbers this season than Tarvaris Jackson
As a die hard Browns fan, I couldn't agree with you more. Hillis out, Haden ???, and Fujita probably won't play either. The running game has been awful all year and McCoy doesn't have the weapons at WR to pass the ball 35-40 times a game. Good luck but I hope you're wrong.
As a die hard Browns fan, I couldn't agree with you more. Hillis out, Haden ???, and Fujita probably won't play either. The running game has been awful all year and McCoy doesn't have the weapons at WR to pass the ball 35-40 times a game. Good luck but I hope you're wrong.
As a die hard Browns fan, I couldn't agree with you more. Hillis out, Haden ???, and Fujita probably won't play either. The running game has been awful all year and McCoy doesn't have the weapons at WR to pass the ball 35-40 times a game. Good luck but I hope you're wrong.
i was hoping to get a Browns fans input. Someone who watches every Browns game. Usually die hard Browns fans will look to every reason possible to convince themselves that their team can succeed no matter the current team situation. (Much like myself being a Bills fan). So if you see the Seahawks winning...that makes me feel alot better about this bet.
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As a die hard Browns fan, I couldn't agree with you more. Hillis out, Haden ???, and Fujita probably won't play either. The running game has been awful all year and McCoy doesn't have the weapons at WR to pass the ball 35-40 times a game. Good luck but I hope you're wrong.
i was hoping to get a Browns fans input. Someone who watches every Browns game. Usually die hard Browns fans will look to every reason possible to convince themselves that their team can succeed no matter the current team situation. (Much like myself being a Bills fan). So if you see the Seahawks winning...that makes me feel alot better about this bet.
Since Iam a homer, Seattle offense will depend on blocking for Lynch. He is like a roller coaster. One good game and one bad game. As for match ups, Seattle tend to play well with good teams and suck playing average teams. Seattle did win on the road by beating a 4-2 NY Giants team. Whitehurst will try to prove himself and take the starting job for the rest of the season. Should be a close game, Seattle season will be over if they lose this game and fall way behind 5-1 SF. So they will give it their all on this game. SEA 27- CLEVE 21
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Since Iam a homer, Seattle offense will depend on blocking for Lynch. He is like a roller coaster. One good game and one bad game. As for match ups, Seattle tend to play well with good teams and suck playing average teams. Seattle did win on the road by beating a 4-2 NY Giants team. Whitehurst will try to prove himself and take the starting job for the rest of the season. Should be a close game, Seattle season will be over if they lose this game and fall way behind 5-1 SF. So they will give it their all on this game. SEA 27- CLEVE 21
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