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    GOW: Chicago Bears -10.....here's WHY.....

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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 4:55 PM ET #26

    LOVE IT
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    LOVE IT
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 4:56 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:

    Right on brutha. 

    Something about that Pats/Jets game is worrying me.  NE is the best team in the league but I think the Jets can keep it close.  Their swagger and cockiness are pretty annoying but it might be the difference in covering that line on Sunday.  There's a reason why they're doing so much talking -- nothing left to do on Sunday but back that shit up and I think they might be able to.  (Probably won't win but might be able to keep it close)



    I'll give you the reason to bet NE in 2 words...

    MARK SANCHEZ
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:

    Right on brutha. 

    Something about that Pats/Jets game is worrying me.  NE is the best team in the league but I think the Jets can keep it close.  Their swagger and cockiness are pretty annoying but it might be the difference in covering that line on Sunday.  There's a reason why they're doing so much talking -- nothing left to do on Sunday but back that shit up and I think they might be able to.  (Probably won't win but might be able to keep it close)



    I'll give you the reason to bet NE in 2 words...

    MARK SANCHEZ
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 4:58 PM ET #28

    The only thing preventing me from making a big play on this game is I don't trust Cutler. I found this trend posted on another website and it's pretty alarming.

    - QB's starting their first playoff game are 5-19 SU since 2003
    - Home favorites: 1-10 ATS
    - Jay Cutler is only 1-8 against the spread in his career as a favorite of six points or more (0-3 as -9 or more)

    Those three things are fairly one sided trends and I love the Bears in this spot but it will only be a 1 unit play for me.


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    The only thing preventing me from making a big play on this game is I don't trust Cutler. I found this trend posted on another website and it's pretty alarming.

    - QB's starting their first playoff game are 5-19 SU since 2003
    - Home favorites: 1-10 ATS
    - Jay Cutler is only 1-8 against the spread in his career as a favorite of six points or more (0-3 as -9 or more)

    Those three things are fairly one sided trends and I love the Bears in this spot but it will only be a 1 unit play for me.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 5:02 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:

    The only thing preventing me from making a big play on this game is I don't trust Cutler. I found this trend posted on another website and it's pretty alarming.

    - QB's starting their first playoff game are 5-19 SU since 2003
    - Home favorites: 1-10 ATS
    - Jay Cutler is only 1-8 against the spread in his career as a favorite of six points or more (0-3 as -9 or more)

    Those three things are fairly one sided trends and I love the Bears in this spot but it will only be a 1 unit play for me.




    And Tiger Woods went how many years with winning at least 1 major? ...until last year. Trends are nice, when they're meaningful. Cutler never had an OC who was capable until this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:

    The only thing preventing me from making a big play on this game is I don't trust Cutler. I found this trend posted on another website and it's pretty alarming.

    - QB's starting their first playoff game are 5-19 SU since 2003
    - Home favorites: 1-10 ATS
    - Jay Cutler is only 1-8 against the spread in his career as a favorite of six points or more (0-3 as -9 or more)

    Those three things are fairly one sided trends and I love the Bears in this spot but it will only be a 1 unit play for me.




    And Tiger Woods went how many years with winning at least 1 major? ...until last year. Trends are nice, when they're meaningful. Cutler never had an OC who was capable until this year.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 5:04 PM ET #30

    Like the play .....Seattle are a much different team on the road and it shows on Sunday.  Throw in a nasty defense and S/T and the only way this game is close is if the Bears turn the ball over.  GL...
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    Like the play .....Seattle are a much different team on the road and it shows on Sunday.  Throw in a nasty defense and S/T and the only way this game is close is if the Bears turn the ball over.  GL...
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 5:06 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by bigslickk:

    Like the play .....Seattle are a much different team on the road and it shows on Sunday.  Throw in a nasty defense and S/T and the only way this game is close is if the Bears turn the ball over.  GL...

    Jay Cutlers job to turn the ball over, he does it soo effortlessly

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigslickk:

    Like the play .....Seattle are a much different team on the road and it shows on Sunday.  Throw in a nasty defense and S/T and the only way this game is close is if the Bears turn the ball over.  GL...

    Jay Cutlers job to turn the ball over, he does it soo effortlessly

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 5:08 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:



    I'll give you the reason to bet NE in 2 words...

    MARK SANCHEZ

    haha..excellent point.

    Who knows, I might make a play on that one still after both Bears and Steelers cash! (hopefully)  :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:



    I'll give you the reason to bet NE in 2 words...

    MARK SANCHEZ

    haha..excellent point.

    Who knows, I might make a play on that one still after both Bears and Steelers cash! (hopefully)  :)

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 5:09 PM ET #33

    I like the Bears and Pitt/ Balt under, still deciding which one to play
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    I like the Bears and Pitt/ Balt under, still deciding which one to play
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:

    The only thing preventing me from making a big play on this game is I don't trust Cutler. I found this trend posted on another website and it's pretty alarming.

    - QB's starting their first playoff game are 5-19 SU since 2003
    - Home favorites: 1-10 ATS
    - Jay Cutler is only 1-8 against the spread in his career as a favorite of six points or more (0-3 as -9 or more)

    Those three things are fairly one sided trends and I love the Bears in this spot but it will only be a 1 unit play for me.


     Yeah I know the stats are floating out there that QB's in their 1st playoff games aren't that successful, etc.  Well, how many of those QB's were in a similar position as Cutler is on Sunday?  What I mean is, how many had a stud D, stud Special Teams, 2 weeks to prepare, and a team traveling across country to face them for the 2nd time in a year?  I would guess not many...

     

    Also, most people that will take Seattle in this game will say that 'fading' Jay Cutler is the main reason.  But the fact of the matter is that 2010 was arguably Hasselbeck's worst year as a starter.  He averaged 6.8 ypc, 59.9% completion, 12 TD's and 17 INT's.  His passer rating was 73.2 which is way below his career average of 82.2  On the other hand, Cutler had one of the finest seasons of his career -- 7.6 ypc average, 60.4% completion, 23 TD's and 16 INT's (16 TD's and 9 INT's after the bye-week).  His passer rating of 86.3 is above his career average of 84.3....Now, looking at these #'s, which QB would you rather back?

    The trends you mentioned, apply to a different situation, different team, and a different opponent.  Plus all 'trends' balance out eventually.  I'm not a 'trend' handicapper so I don't put much weight into those...

    GL

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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:

    The only thing preventing me from making a big play on this game is I don't trust Cutler. I found this trend posted on another website and it's pretty alarming.

    - QB's starting their first playoff game are 5-19 SU since 2003
    - Home favorites: 1-10 ATS
    - Jay Cutler is only 1-8 against the spread in his career as a favorite of six points or more (0-3 as -9 or more)

    Those three things are fairly one sided trends and I love the Bears in this spot but it will only be a 1 unit play for me.


     Yeah I know the stats are floating out there that QB's in their 1st playoff games aren't that successful, etc.  Well, how many of those QB's were in a similar position as Cutler is on Sunday?  What I mean is, how many had a stud D, stud Special Teams, 2 weeks to prepare, and a team traveling across country to face them for the 2nd time in a year?  I would guess not many...

     

    Also, most people that will take Seattle in this game will say that 'fading' Jay Cutler is the main reason.  But the fact of the matter is that 2010 was arguably Hasselbeck's worst year as a starter.  He averaged 6.8 ypc, 59.9% completion, 12 TD's and 17 INT's.  His passer rating was 73.2 which is way below his career average of 82.2  On the other hand, Cutler had one of the finest seasons of his career -- 7.6 ypc average, 60.4% completion, 23 TD's and 16 INT's (16 TD's and 9 INT's after the bye-week).  His passer rating of 86.3 is above his career average of 84.3....Now, looking at these #'s, which QB would you rather back?

    The trends you mentioned, apply to a different situation, different team, and a different opponent.  Plus all 'trends' balance out eventually.  I'm not a 'trend' handicapper so I don't put much weight into those...

    GL

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by WizrduvOdz:

    I like the Bears and Pitt/ Balt under, still deciding which one to play

    Pitt/Balt under is a very 'sharp' number.  The move from 36.5 to 37 is something else you need to consider (squares don't move lines that early in the week).  Sure both defenses are top-notch but so are both offenses.  Out of curiousity, what's your angle in that one?   (If I had to play that one, I'd lean OVER most likely)

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    Quote Originally Posted by WizrduvOdz:

    I like the Bears and Pitt/ Balt under, still deciding which one to play

    Pitt/Balt under is a very 'sharp' number.  The move from 36.5 to 37 is something else you need to consider (squares don't move lines that early in the week).  Sure both defenses are top-notch but so are both offenses.  Out of curiousity, what's your angle in that one?   (If I had to play that one, I'd lean OVER most likely)

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 5:17 PM ET #36

    People can hate on Cutler all they want, the Bears were still 10-5 or 9-6-1 (pending where ya bet) ATS this year. Cutler isn't going to be the reason whether the Bears cover or not, it all comes down to special teams, Forte, and how well their D does. Too much Cutler talk, he will be the bystander in this game. GL
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    People can hate on Cutler all they want, the Bears were still 10-5 or 9-6-1 (pending where ya bet) ATS this year. Cutler isn't going to be the reason whether the Bears cover or not, it all comes down to special teams, Forte, and how well their D does. Too much Cutler talk, he will be the bystander in this game. GL
     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 5:18 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:

     Yeah I know the stats are floating out there that QB's in their 1st playoff games aren't that successful, etc.  Well, how many of those QB's were in a similar position as Cutler is on Sunday?  What I mean is, how many had a stud D, stud Special Teams, 2 weeks to prepare, and a team traveling across country to face them for the 2nd time in a year?  I would guess not many...

     

    Also, most people that will take Seattle in this game will say that 'fading' Jay Cutler is the main reason.  But the fact of the matter is that 2010 was arguably Hasselbeck's worst year as a starter.  He averaged 6.8 ypc, 59.9% completion, 12 TD's and 17 INT's.  His passer rating was 73.2 which is way below his career average of 82.2  On the other hand, Cutler had one of the finest seasons of his career -- 7.6 ypc average, 60.4% completion, 23 TD's and 16 INT's (16 TD's and 9 INT's after the bye-week).  His passer rating of 86.3 is above his career average of 84.3....Now, looking at these #'s, which QB would you rather back?

    The trends you mentioned, apply to a different situation, different team, and a different opponent.  Plus all 'trends' balance out eventually.  I'm not a 'trend' handicapper so I don't put much weight into those...

    GL





    Good points. Lets hope Martz runs the ball and keeps Cutler out of bad situations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:

     Yeah I know the stats are floating out there that QB's in their 1st playoff games aren't that successful, etc.  Well, how many of those QB's were in a similar position as Cutler is on Sunday?  What I mean is, how many had a stud D, stud Special Teams, 2 weeks to prepare, and a team traveling across country to face them for the 2nd time in a year?  I would guess not many...

     

    Also, most people that will take Seattle in this game will say that 'fading' Jay Cutler is the main reason.  But the fact of the matter is that 2010 was arguably Hasselbeck's worst year as a starter.  He averaged 6.8 ypc, 59.9% completion, 12 TD's and 17 INT's.  His passer rating was 73.2 which is way below his career average of 82.2  On the other hand, Cutler had one of the finest seasons of his career -- 7.6 ypc average, 60.4% completion, 23 TD's and 16 INT's (16 TD's and 9 INT's after the bye-week).  His passer rating of 86.3 is above his career average of 84.3....Now, looking at these #'s, which QB would you rather back?

    The trends you mentioned, apply to a different situation, different team, and a different opponent.  Plus all 'trends' balance out eventually.  I'm not a 'trend' handicapper so I don't put much weight into those...

    GL





    Good points. Lets hope Martz runs the ball and keeps Cutler out of bad situations.
     
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    One more interesting trend guys:  Seattle is 0-9 ATS AWAY off a home win over the last 3 seasons.  

    So we have a 100% 'angle' here 

    Good luck!

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    One more interesting trend guys:  Seattle is 0-9 ATS AWAY off a home win over the last 3 seasons.  

    So we have a 100% 'angle' here 

    Good luck!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:

    No it's not, it was a meaningless game for the Bears.  My apologies. 

    Even so, I made a mistake.  It's 6 sacks that the Bears gave up in the last 3 "meaningful" games, not 5.  Sorry about the mistake and for not clarifiying which "last 3 games" I meant. 

    Thanks miracleminded

    Meaningless game?  Did you watch it?  They did everything they could to win that game to keep the Pack out and they failed!  They will also fail on Sunday when Seattle wins outright

    Seattle 27 Chicago 13

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    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:

    No it's not, it was a meaningless game for the Bears.  My apologies. 

    Even so, I made a mistake.  It's 6 sacks that the Bears gave up in the last 3 "meaningful" games, not 5.  Sorry about the mistake and for not clarifiying which "last 3 games" I meant. 

    Thanks miracleminded

    Meaningless game?  Did you watch it?  They did everything they could to win that game to keep the Pack out and they failed!  They will also fail on Sunday when Seattle wins outright

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    Nice write up bodio.   I agree with the pick 


    One more stat to consider.     Total pts in the last 3 games @ Soldier Field were...57...43...72.    So, OVER 41.5 might be a decent play on Sunday

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    Nice write up bodio.   I agree with the pick 


    One more stat to consider.     Total pts in the last 3 games @ Soldier Field were...57...43...72.    So, OVER 41.5 might be a decent play on Sunday

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    Quote Originally Posted by FritoLay:

    Meaningless game?  Did you watch it?  They did everything they could to win that game to keep the Pack out and they failed!  They will also fail on Sunday when Seattle wins outright

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    Meaningless game?  Did you watch it?  They did everything they could to win that game to keep the Pack out and they failed!  They will also fail on Sunday when Seattle wins outright

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    thanks for the writeup- Im still on seattle +10 in a playoff game...

        serious after they beat the saints , they gotta beat the shitty bears and cutler.

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    thanks for the writeup- Im still on seattle +10 in a playoff game...

        serious after they beat the saints , they gotta beat the shitty bears and cutler.

      cutler suks          

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FritoLay:

    Meaningless game?  Did you watch it?  They did everything they could to win that game to keep the Pack out and they failed!  They will also fail on Sunday when Seattle wins outright

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    Of course I watched - I was at the game!  The Bears had a very 'vanilla' game plan.  Sure they tried to win the game, but they did NOT do EVERYTHING they could.  That game confirmed to me that even in a situation where the Bears don't open up the playbook, their D and ST are great enough to stay competitive.  I expect this team to be very effective on Sunday.

    Good luck buddy.  Go BEARS

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    Meaningless game?  Did you watch it?  They did everything they could to win that game to keep the Pack out and they failed!  They will also fail on Sunday when Seattle wins outright

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    Of course I watched - I was at the game!  The Bears had a very 'vanilla' game plan.  Sure they tried to win the game, but they did NOT do EVERYTHING they could.  That game confirmed to me that even in a situation where the Bears don't open up the playbook, their D and ST are great enough to stay competitive.  I expect this team to be very effective on Sunday.

    Good luck buddy.  Go BEARS

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by HEFADEME:

    Nice write up bodio.   I agree with the pick 


    One more stat to consider.     Total pts in the last 3 games @ Soldier Field were...57...43...72.    So, OVER 41.5 might be a decent play on Sunday

    GL

    Well, not necessarily.  What happened in those 3 games doesn't necessarily have an impact on this one.  A different team, different circumstances, etc...  Final score could be 31-10 Bears and the UNDER will hit.  I'd be very careful here, as I don't see Seattle breaking 14 points...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HEFADEME:

    Nice write up bodio.   I agree with the pick 


    One more stat to consider.     Total pts in the last 3 games @ Soldier Field were...57...43...72.    So, OVER 41.5 might be a decent play on Sunday

    GL

    Well, not necessarily.  What happened in those 3 games doesn't necessarily have an impact on this one.  A different team, different circumstances, etc...  Final score could be 31-10 Bears and the UNDER will hit.  I'd be very careful here, as I don't see Seattle breaking 14 points...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by timdogs17:

    thanks for the writeup- Im still on seattle +10 in a playoff game...

        serious after they beat the saints , they gotta beat the shitty bears and cutler.

      cutler suks          

     

    hehe...ok  If Cutler "suks", what does it make old-man Hasselbeck?   Good luck buddy!  Go BEARS

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    thanks for the writeup- Im still on seattle +10 in a playoff game...

        serious after they beat the saints , they gotta beat the shitty bears and cutler.

      cutler suks          

     

    hehe...ok  If Cutler "suks", what does it make old-man Hasselbeck?   Good luck buddy!  Go BEARS

     
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    haha...solid! 

    BEAR DOWN!

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    haha...solid! 

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