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    GOW: Chicago Bears -10.....here's WHY.....

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    Final 2010 NFL regular season: 58-44 @ 57% for + $9,600
    NFL-P '10-'11 Record: 3-1 @ 75%

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    #1: Chicago Bears -10 (GaMe Of ThE wEeK!)


    Breaking down this game, the first thing I looked at was the ‘relative’ strength of each team. Basically I like to compare each offense and defense against the averages given up/allowed by their opponents. It provides a ‘relative’ description of whether a specific team is –over or –under performing with respect to their opponents.

    Seahawks O: 20.6 ppg
    Opp Def Ave: 22.1
    Variance: -1.5

    Seahawks D: 26.1 ppg
    Opp Off Ave: 21.3
    Variance: -4.8

    Total Variance: -6.3

    On offense, Seattle is a below-average team. Against defenses that have allowed on average 22.1 ppg, they’ve been able to score only 20.6. It’s even worse defensively, where the Seahawks have given up 26.1 points per game to teams averaging 21.3. It’s even worse on the road, where the offense produced 16.7 ppg while giving up 29.2 ppg on defense. Let’s take a look at the Bears:

    Bears O: 20.9 ppg
    Opp Def Ave: 22.1
    Variance: -1.2

    Bears D: 17.9 ppg
    Opp Off Ave: 21.6
    Variance: +3.7

    Total Variance: +2.5

    When looking at the Bears for the whole 2010, they are just like the Seahawks, a below-average team offensively. But here’s where a more in-depth analysis helps. If you look at this team after their week 8 bye, not counting the meaningless week 17 game @ Green Bay, Bears offense has actually averaged 26 points per game in going 7-1 during that span (Their only loss was to the Patriots in a ‘blow-out’ fashion.) By comparison, Seahawks have averaged 20.6 ppg in their last 7. Hmmm…. Bears improved from 20.9 ppg ave for the whole season to 26 ppg in their last 7 games, while the Seahawks have stayed the same. This is a critical fact here, since the expectation for every NFL team is to improve as the season goes on. Bears O has done that, while the Seahawks have not. Defensively, Bears are a very strong team and the ‘relative’ variance of +3.7 proves that.

    So let’s compare the ‘relative’ variances here. Bears are +2.5 as a team, while the Seahawks are -6.3. That’s a total of +8.8 difference. Bears are clearly the better team (I’m sure everyone knows this already) Their D is a #4 scoring D and #9 overall. They are a #3 team in the league in takeaways and allow only 34.7% conversion rate on 3rd downs, good for 6th best. It’s this suffocating defense that is going to give this one-dimensional Seattle team plenty of problems. The reason Seattle is one-dimensional is because they can’t run the ball (Lynch’s performance last week was a ‘fluke’ as he’s a very limited running back) They are ranked #31 out of 32 teams in the NFL at 89 yards rushing per game, and 29th in the league averaging only 3.7 yards per carry. Sure, Seattle will try to establish the run here, but it won’t work. Bears are #2 in the league in allowing 90.1 rypg and 6th in allowing 3.7 yards per attempt. Making Seattle one-dimensional, will allow Julius Peppers and Co. to attack Hasselbeck, put pressure on Seattle’s mediocre Offensive line, and control the flow of the game. I expect the Seahawks to find themselves in a lot of 3rd and long situations, and I’ve already explained how unsuccessful teams have been this year in converting those against the Bears.

    Now I do expect the Bears to have success offensively against this ‘soft’ Seattle D that allows almost 30 points per game on the road. Seattle has faced the following ‘playoff’ teams this year:

    @ Chicago 23-20 W
    NY Giants 7-41 L
    @ New Orleans 19-34 L
    Kansas City 24-42 L
    Atlanta 18-34 L

    Not counting the Bears game (I’ll get back to that one), the losing margin was 20.75 points per game for the Seahawks. Interestingly, Seattle lost by 15+ points in all 9 of their losses this year. None of those games were close. The trouble with Seattle’s D is that they cannot compete against teams that have ‘balance’ on offense. And the Bears are one of the most balanced teams in the 2nd half of the season. Actually, they are #6 most balanced team in the last 9 weeks of the season. They have had 258 rushing attempts and 276 passing attempts in that time. In addition, the Bears rushed for 100+ yards in 8 of their last 9 games, compared to only twice in their first 7. People still have this perception that the Bears do not run the ball at all, and Cutler just makes 7-step drops all day long. Well, this was the Bears O early in the season. Not now. Right now, this is a very balanced offense that is averaging 26 points per game after their bye-week with Forte averaging 120 yards from scrimmage and 5.8 yards per carry over the final 6 games of the season. Forte will be a big factor on Sunday and I expect the Bears to put up points on the board in this one.
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    #1: Chicago Bears -10 (GaMe Of ThE wEeK!)


    Breaking down this game, the first thing I looked at was the ‘relative’ strength of each team. Basically I like to compare each offense and defense against the averages given up/allowed by their opponents. It provides a ‘relative’ description of whether a specific team is –over or –under performing with respect to their opponents.

    Seahawks O: 20.6 ppg
    Opp Def Ave: 22.1
    Variance: -1.5

    Seahawks D: 26.1 ppg
    Opp Off Ave: 21.3
    Variance: -4.8

    Total Variance: -6.3

    On offense, Seattle is a below-average team. Against defenses that have allowed on average 22.1 ppg, they’ve been able to score only 20.6. It’s even worse defensively, where the Seahawks have given up 26.1 points per game to teams averaging 21.3. It’s even worse on the road, where the offense produced 16.7 ppg while giving up 29.2 ppg on defense. Let’s take a look at the Bears:

    Bears O: 20.9 ppg
    Opp Def Ave: 22.1
    Variance: -1.2

    Bears D: 17.9 ppg
    Opp Off Ave: 21.6
    Variance: +3.7

    Total Variance: +2.5

    When looking at the Bears for the whole 2010, they are just like the Seahawks, a below-average team offensively. But here’s where a more in-depth analysis helps. If you look at this team after their week 8 bye, not counting the meaningless week 17 game @ Green Bay, Bears offense has actually averaged 26 points per game in going 7-1 during that span (Their only loss was to the Patriots in a ‘blow-out’ fashion.) By comparison, Seahawks have averaged 20.6 ppg in their last 7. Hmmm…. Bears improved from 20.9 ppg ave for the whole season to 26 ppg in their last 7 games, while the Seahawks have stayed the same. This is a critical fact here, since the expectation for every NFL team is to improve as the season goes on. Bears O has done that, while the Seahawks have not. Defensively, Bears are a very strong team and the ‘relative’ variance of +3.7 proves that.

    So let’s compare the ‘relative’ variances here. Bears are +2.5 as a team, while the Seahawks are -6.3. That’s a total of +8.8 difference. Bears are clearly the better team (I’m sure everyone knows this already) Their D is a #4 scoring D and #9 overall. They are a #3 team in the league in takeaways and allow only 34.7% conversion rate on 3rd downs, good for 6th best. It’s this suffocating defense that is going to give this one-dimensional Seattle team plenty of problems. The reason Seattle is one-dimensional is because they can’t run the ball (Lynch’s performance last week was a ‘fluke’ as he’s a very limited running back) They are ranked #31 out of 32 teams in the NFL at 89 yards rushing per game, and 29th in the league averaging only 3.7 yards per carry. Sure, Seattle will try to establish the run here, but it won’t work. Bears are #2 in the league in allowing 90.1 rypg and 6th in allowing 3.7 yards per attempt. Making Seattle one-dimensional, will allow Julius Peppers and Co. to attack Hasselbeck, put pressure on Seattle’s mediocre Offensive line, and control the flow of the game. I expect the Seahawks to find themselves in a lot of 3rd and long situations, and I’ve already explained how unsuccessful teams have been this year in converting those against the Bears.

    Now I do expect the Bears to have success offensively against this ‘soft’ Seattle D that allows almost 30 points per game on the road. Seattle has faced the following ‘playoff’ teams this year:

    @ Chicago 23-20 W
    NY Giants 7-41 L
    @ New Orleans 19-34 L
    Kansas City 24-42 L
    Atlanta 18-34 L

    Not counting the Bears game (I’ll get back to that one), the losing margin was 20.75 points per game for the Seahawks. Interestingly, Seattle lost by 15+ points in all 9 of their losses this year. None of those games were close. The trouble with Seattle’s D is that they cannot compete against teams that have ‘balance’ on offense. And the Bears are one of the most balanced teams in the 2nd half of the season. Actually, they are #6 most balanced team in the last 9 weeks of the season. They have had 258 rushing attempts and 276 passing attempts in that time. In addition, the Bears rushed for 100+ yards in 8 of their last 9 games, compared to only twice in their first 7. People still have this perception that the Bears do not run the ball at all, and Cutler just makes 7-step drops all day long. Well, this was the Bears O early in the season. Not now. Right now, this is a very balanced offense that is averaging 26 points per game after their bye-week with Forte averaging 120 yards from scrimmage and 5.8 yards per carry over the final 6 games of the season. Forte will be a big factor on Sunday and I expect the Bears to put up points on the board in this one.
     
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    Speaking of putting up points, I look at yards-per-point (YPPT) as an efficiency measure on both offense and defense. Let’s compare it for both clubs. Offensively, Seattle’s YPPT is 14.8 for all the games. That’s pretty average. The key is that on the road their YPPT metric on offense jumps up to 19.1. Basically they have to work really hard to score points on the road as their Offense is very inefficient. That’s a huge discrepancy, and is a real big indicator of how truly bad this Seattle team is on the road. Bears are more efficient than Seattle, gaining 13.9 YPPT in all their games, and 14.7 YPPT at home. You can say that the Bears are less efficient at home, but in reality they faced a much tougher completion at home than on the road: Jets, Pats, Philly. Defensively, Seattle yields 14.4 YPPT to opposing offenses compared to 17.6 YPPT for the Bears D. I’ve talked about Bears D in detail already and this stat just proves that they force opposing offenses to sustain longer drives, and truly earn their points against them. In other words, Bears’ D is much more efficient.
    Statistically, the Bears have an advantage both on offense and defense. Special Teams is an area where both teams excel, having dynamic returners, and good coverage personnel. I would still rank the Bears a little higher on special teams but Seattle is close behind. Alright, enough of statistical breakdown, and let’s discuss some other factors why the Bears are the right play in this one.

    I want to reference the 1st meeting between these 2 teams, when Seattle won 23-20 in Chicago. No doubt about it, Seattle came in and deserved the win. They outgained the Bears 353-307, controlled the ball for 9 more minutes, and gained 5 more 1st downs. In addition they were 7-18 on 3rd down conversions while the Bears were 0-12. This is all the info that one can get by looking at the box-score, but there were a few other ‘relevant’ factors as to why the Seahawks won that first game by 3 points:
    #1) Bears were in the middle of their ‘early’ season slump, where they lost 3 of 4 games prior to their bye-week.
    #2) This was Cutler’s 1st game after he sustained a concussion against the Giants and had to miss the previous week. He went 1-5 to start out, and 17-39 (44%) for the game.
    #3) Bears offense was too reliant on 7-step drops and wasn’t running the ball effectively (they made changes after the bye-week).
    #4) Lance Briggs, one of the Bears best defensive players, sat out that game with an ankle injury.
    #5) Seattle was coming off a ‘Bye’ week where they had 2 weeks to prepare, were fully rested, and healthy.
    I feel all these factors contributed to the Bears losing that first game. Seattle had a great game-plan in that one and deserved credit for winning the game, but the team they’ll face this Sunday is a much different squad from the Bears team they saw in that week 6 win.

    Now the ‘tables have turned’ a bit. This time the Bears are the ones coming off a “BYE”. They are rested, fully healthy, and have had 2 weeks to prepare. In addition, they do not have to travel for this one. Seattle will travel across 2 time-zones and play the early game on Sunday, at 12 pm central. It will feel like they’re playing at 10 am their time. Even though it seemed like the Bears couldn’t do anything right in that first contest, they actually had success running the ball, averaging 4.4 yards per carry. Unfortunately they ran the ball only 14 times in that one. I expect that to change. Bears will be balanced on offense, will establish their running game, which at the same time will minimize the impact of the Seattle’s pass rush. Obviously ‘revenge’ angle might come into play as well. More importantly, Bears are focused and that first loss will ensure that they won’t over-look this 8-9 Seattle squad.

    I’d like to analyze the ‘posted line’ a bit and see if we have some ‘line-value’ in this one. It helps of course when the 2 teams have played each other already. So in that game the Bears were -6 point favorites at home. Now remember some factors in play there. Seattle was coming off a ‘bye’ with 2 weeks to prepare, Cutler’s first game back from a concussion, Briggs was out, etc. So the question we must ask ourselves is, where did the 4 ‘additional’ points come from to make the line -10 for this 2nd matchup? Did the Bears improve by 4 full points from that 1st game in week 6? I most definitely think so. But even if you don’t think the Bears ‘improved’, you have to take into consideration that a healthy Cutler and Briggs, 2 weeks off, playing at home and not having to travel, are worth about 4 points. In addition, think about this line from the ‘line-makers’ perspective. They know that everyone watched Seattle beat the World Champions New Orleans last week. They also know that an average bettor does enough research to know that Seahawks have beaten the Bears already this season. All these factors would contribute to the ‘public’ favoring the Seahawks. So knowing all this, they still go ahead and open this one at Bears -10, whole 4 points higher than in their previous matchup. Hmmm… Well, it’s clearly an indication from the books that the Bears are most definitely a better team now than they were in week 6. 67% of the public is on Seattle and the line is standing steady. I think the strong opening # along with the factors I’ve listed above, most definitely provide some ‘line-value’ here.

    Finally, keep in mind that SU winner has covered every Seahawks game this year! I don’t see the Bears losing this one. If they win, they will cover. Seattle is 1-7 on the road in the playoffs, having lost 7 straight. Last week Baltimore Ravesn -2.5 was my GOW, as I faded another team that has had a long losing streak in the playoffs in KC Chiefs, who have gone 1-8 since 1992. We all remember how that turned out. I expect the same outcome form the Bears, as all signs point to a 20+ home victory for Chicago.

    My computer model has a 29-13 Bears win. Good luck!
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    Speaking of putting up points, I look at yards-per-point (YPPT) as an efficiency measure on both offense and defense. Let’s compare it for both clubs. Offensively, Seattle’s YPPT is 14.8 for all the games. That’s pretty average. The key is that on the road their YPPT metric on offense jumps up to 19.1. Basically they have to work really hard to score points on the road as their Offense is very inefficient. That’s a huge discrepancy, and is a real big indicator of how truly bad this Seattle team is on the road. Bears are more efficient than Seattle, gaining 13.9 YPPT in all their games, and 14.7 YPPT at home. You can say that the Bears are less efficient at home, but in reality they faced a much tougher completion at home than on the road: Jets, Pats, Philly. Defensively, Seattle yields 14.4 YPPT to opposing offenses compared to 17.6 YPPT for the Bears D. I’ve talked about Bears D in detail already and this stat just proves that they force opposing offenses to sustain longer drives, and truly earn their points against them. In other words, Bears’ D is much more efficient.
    Statistically, the Bears have an advantage both on offense and defense. Special Teams is an area where both teams excel, having dynamic returners, and good coverage personnel. I would still rank the Bears a little higher on special teams but Seattle is close behind. Alright, enough of statistical breakdown, and let’s discuss some other factors why the Bears are the right play in this one.

    I want to reference the 1st meeting between these 2 teams, when Seattle won 23-20 in Chicago. No doubt about it, Seattle came in and deserved the win. They outgained the Bears 353-307, controlled the ball for 9 more minutes, and gained 5 more 1st downs. In addition they were 7-18 on 3rd down conversions while the Bears were 0-12. This is all the info that one can get by looking at the box-score, but there were a few other ‘relevant’ factors as to why the Seahawks won that first game by 3 points:
    #1) Bears were in the middle of their ‘early’ season slump, where they lost 3 of 4 games prior to their bye-week.
    #2) This was Cutler’s 1st game after he sustained a concussion against the Giants and had to miss the previous week. He went 1-5 to start out, and 17-39 (44%) for the game.
    #3) Bears offense was too reliant on 7-step drops and wasn’t running the ball effectively (they made changes after the bye-week).
    #4) Lance Briggs, one of the Bears best defensive players, sat out that game with an ankle injury.
    #5) Seattle was coming off a ‘Bye’ week where they had 2 weeks to prepare, were fully rested, and healthy.
    I feel all these factors contributed to the Bears losing that first game. Seattle had a great game-plan in that one and deserved credit for winning the game, but the team they’ll face this Sunday is a much different squad from the Bears team they saw in that week 6 win.

    Now the ‘tables have turned’ a bit. This time the Bears are the ones coming off a “BYE”. They are rested, fully healthy, and have had 2 weeks to prepare. In addition, they do not have to travel for this one. Seattle will travel across 2 time-zones and play the early game on Sunday, at 12 pm central. It will feel like they’re playing at 10 am their time. Even though it seemed like the Bears couldn’t do anything right in that first contest, they actually had success running the ball, averaging 4.4 yards per carry. Unfortunately they ran the ball only 14 times in that one. I expect that to change. Bears will be balanced on offense, will establish their running game, which at the same time will minimize the impact of the Seattle’s pass rush. Obviously ‘revenge’ angle might come into play as well. More importantly, Bears are focused and that first loss will ensure that they won’t over-look this 8-9 Seattle squad.

    I’d like to analyze the ‘posted line’ a bit and see if we have some ‘line-value’ in this one. It helps of course when the 2 teams have played each other already. So in that game the Bears were -6 point favorites at home. Now remember some factors in play there. Seattle was coming off a ‘bye’ with 2 weeks to prepare, Cutler’s first game back from a concussion, Briggs was out, etc. So the question we must ask ourselves is, where did the 4 ‘additional’ points come from to make the line -10 for this 2nd matchup? Did the Bears improve by 4 full points from that 1st game in week 6? I most definitely think so. But even if you don’t think the Bears ‘improved’, you have to take into consideration that a healthy Cutler and Briggs, 2 weeks off, playing at home and not having to travel, are worth about 4 points. In addition, think about this line from the ‘line-makers’ perspective. They know that everyone watched Seattle beat the World Champions New Orleans last week. They also know that an average bettor does enough research to know that Seahawks have beaten the Bears already this season. All these factors would contribute to the ‘public’ favoring the Seahawks. So knowing all this, they still go ahead and open this one at Bears -10, whole 4 points higher than in their previous matchup. Hmmm… Well, it’s clearly an indication from the books that the Bears are most definitely a better team now than they were in week 6. 67% of the public is on Seattle and the line is standing steady. I think the strong opening # along with the factors I’ve listed above, most definitely provide some ‘line-value’ here.

    Finally, keep in mind that SU winner has covered every Seahawks game this year! I don’t see the Bears losing this one. If they win, they will cover. Seattle is 1-7 on the road in the playoffs, having lost 7 straight. Last week Baltimore Ravesn -2.5 was my GOW, as I faded another team that has had a long losing streak in the playoffs in KC Chiefs, who have gone 1-8 since 1992. We all remember how that turned out. I expect the same outcome form the Bears, as all signs point to a 20+ home victory for Chicago.

    My computer model has a 29-13 Bears win. Good luck!
     
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     I predicted 30-10. Bears roll.
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    One of the best posts I have ever read on covers.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by 46989:

     I predicted 30-10. Bears roll.

     

    good luck brutha!

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    good luck brutha!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 46989:

    One of the best posts I have ever read on covers.com

    Thanks buddy.  Hopefully you'll also enjoy my analysis of my other 2 wagers this week and the 3 Futures plays as well.  (the links are included in this post)

     

    Good luck!

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    One of the best posts I have ever read on covers.com

    Thanks buddy.  Hopefully you'll also enjoy my analysis of my other 2 wagers this week and the 3 Futures plays as well.  (the links are included in this post)

     

    Good luck!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woodd2:

    HOWS THE O LINE OF THE BEARS GONNA HOLD OFF THE SEATTLE BLITZ?  

    Balance on offense.  Forte and the running game will neutralize the Seattle blitz.  Additionaly, the Bears have given up only 5 sacks in the past 3 games.  This O-line is playing a lot better and I expect the Bears to make the appropriate adjustments in this one.  Just because Seattle got 6 sacks in the first game between the 2 squads doesn't mean it will happen again.  I mentioned in my analysis that Bears are a completely different team after their BYE.  I expect everyone to see that fully on Sunday!

     

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    Balance on offense.  Forte and the running game will neutralize the Seattle blitz.  Additionaly, the Bears have given up only 5 sacks in the past 3 games.  This O-line is playing a lot better and I expect the Bears to make the appropriate adjustments in this one.  Just because Seattle got 6 sacks in the first game between the 2 squads doesn't mean it will happen again.  I mentioned in my analysis that Bears are a completely different team after their BYE.  I expect everyone to see that fully on Sunday!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by shep99:

    i don't have time to read all of that, but i don't think there is any doubt that Chicago is the play of the week..... just look at the Seahawks performance on the road this year; absolutely horrendous!

    Right on brutha!  Seahawks are an alright team at home, but no the road they're really bad. 

    Go BEARS!

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    i don't have time to read all of that, but i don't think there is any doubt that Chicago is the play of the week..... just look at the Seahawks performance on the road this year; absolutely horrendous!

    Right on brutha!  Seahawks are an alright team at home, but no the road they're really bad. 

    Go BEARS!

     
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     i know this is one of the best pots i read here....gee that hammer fella would get a boner reading this...earrrrly a.m  something hit me...like a hammer that bears was the answer....this might push me all the way onto the bears ...i got like a hundo worth of parlays w/pitt-3.5 and seadoggs+10 ........now straight betting time...this article is very clear and concise...u must be a prof writer or journalist..ty for the insight,..i really dug this post
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    Another Covers bloodbath in the making?

    ....this is by far the least talked about game on Covers bud.  If ur looking for a potential bloodbath u may wanna sign up for the Packers on Sat...

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    You touched on this point, and I believe it's the biggest reason to take the Bears - the improvement they've experienced over the course of the season. Cutler and Martz are making a solid tandem and as the season has progressed, their collaboration has become productive. Seattle beat up a marginal NO team who had big time defensive struggles all year long and they exploited them. In addition to the time zone difference, the cold weather is going to play in the Bears favor as well.

    I also believe you can make the same case for the Jets/Pats game. NY seems to have been limping at the same pace all year long and NE just continues to improve. The Jets seemingly aren't like they were last year. 1st of all, they didn't sneak up on anyone. 2nd, their last few games are indicative of their very average play. Starting in week 13, they get waxed by NE, lose to Miami, beat Pitt, lose to the Bears, beat a hapless Buffalo and last week they take down a not-so-good Indianapolis team. Conversely, NE, with the exception of taking their eye off the ball at Green Bay, has waxed their opposition.

    There's a damn good reason these 2 are big favorites - because they should crush the opposition this week.
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    You touched on this point, and I believe it's the biggest reason to take the Bears - the improvement they've experienced over the course of the season. Cutler and Martz are making a solid tandem and as the season has progressed, their collaboration has become productive. Seattle beat up a marginal NO team who had big time defensive struggles all year long and they exploited them. In addition to the time zone difference, the cold weather is going to play in the Bears favor as well.

    I also believe you can make the same case for the Jets/Pats game. NY seems to have been limping at the same pace all year long and NE just continues to improve. The Jets seemingly aren't like they were last year. 1st of all, they didn't sneak up on anyone. 2nd, their last few games are indicative of their very average play. Starting in week 13, they get waxed by NE, lose to Miami, beat Pitt, lose to the Bears, beat a hapless Buffalo and last week they take down a not-so-good Indianapolis team. Conversely, NE, with the exception of taking their eye off the ball at Green Bay, has waxed their opposition.

    There's a damn good reason these 2 are big favorites - because they should crush the opposition this week.
     
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    I swear, you say that every time I reading other people's threads.......I guess eventually.....your gonna be RIGHT!baby
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    I swear, you say that every time I reading other people's threads.......I guess eventually.....your gonna be RIGHT!baby
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BIGfnPOO:

     i know this is one of the best pots i read here....gee that hammer fella would get a boner reading this...earrrrly a.m  something hit me...like a hammer that bears was the answer....this might push me all the way onto the bears ...i got like a hundo worth of parlays w/pitt-3.5 and seadoggs+10 ........now straight betting time...this article is very clear and concise...u must be a prof writer or journalist..ty for the insight,..i really dug this post

    Good luck buddy.  Go BEARS!

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     i know this is one of the best pots i read here....gee that hammer fella would get a boner reading this...earrrrly a.m  something hit me...like a hammer that bears was the answer....this might push me all the way onto the bears ...i got like a hundo worth of parlays w/pitt-3.5 and seadoggs+10 ........now straight betting time...this article is very clear and concise...u must be a prof writer or journalist..ty for the insight,..i really dug this post

    Good luck buddy.  Go BEARS!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 14, 2011 - 4:39 PM ET #21

    awesome writeup Bodio, like the Bears also


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    Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:

    You touched on this point, and I believe it's the biggest reason to take the Bears - the improvement they've experienced over the course of the season. Cutler and Martz are making a solid tandem and as the season has progressed, their collaboration has become productive. Seattle beat up a marginal NO team who had big time defensive struggles all year long and they exploited them. In addition to the time zone difference, the cold weather is going to play in the Bears favor as well.

    I also believe you can make the same case for the Jets/Pats game. NY seems to have been limping at the same pace all year long and NE just continues to improve. The Jets seemingly aren't like they were last year. 1st of all, they didn't sneak up on anyone. 2nd, their last few games are indicative of their very average play. Starting in week 13, they get waxed by NE, lose to Miami, beat Pitt, lose to the Bears, beat a hapless Buffalo and last week they take down a not-so-good Indianapolis team. Conversely, NE, with the exception of taking their eye off the ball at Green Bay, has waxed their opposition.

    There's a damn good reason these 2 are big favorites - because they should crush the opposition this week.

    Right on brutha. 

    Something about that Pats/Jets game is worrying me.  NE is the best team in the league but I think the Jets can keep it close.  Their swagger and cockiness are pretty annoying but it might be the difference in covering that line on Sunday.  There's a reason why they're doing so much talking -- nothing left to do on Sunday but back that shit up and I think they might be able to.  (Probably won't win but might be able to keep it close)

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    You touched on this point, and I believe it's the biggest reason to take the Bears - the improvement they've experienced over the course of the season. Cutler and Martz are making a solid tandem and as the season has progressed, their collaboration has become productive. Seattle beat up a marginal NO team who had big time defensive struggles all year long and they exploited them. In addition to the time zone difference, the cold weather is going to play in the Bears favor as well.

    I also believe you can make the same case for the Jets/Pats game. NY seems to have been limping at the same pace all year long and NE just continues to improve. The Jets seemingly aren't like they were last year. 1st of all, they didn't sneak up on anyone. 2nd, their last few games are indicative of their very average play. Starting in week 13, they get waxed by NE, lose to Miami, beat Pitt, lose to the Bears, beat a hapless Buffalo and last week they take down a not-so-good Indianapolis team. Conversely, NE, with the exception of taking their eye off the ball at Green Bay, has waxed their opposition.

    There's a damn good reason these 2 are big favorites - because they should crush the opposition this week.

    Right on brutha. 

    Something about that Pats/Jets game is worrying me.  NE is the best team in the league but I think the Jets can keep it close.  Their swagger and cockiness are pretty annoying but it might be the difference in covering that line on Sunday.  There's a reason why they're doing so much talking -- nothing left to do on Sunday but back that shit up and I think they might be able to.  (Probably won't win but might be able to keep it close)

     
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    Chicago had given up 9 sacks in last 3 games not 5...
    Pack got 6 in their last game....Is that game included in your
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    Quote Originally Posted by nepatriots_12:

    awesome writeup Bodio, like the Bears also


    Thanks buddy.  Go Bears!

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    Thanks buddy.  Go Bears!

     
     
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    No it's not, it was a meaningless game for the Bears.  My apologies. 

    Even so, I made a mistake.  It's 6 sacks that the Bears gave up in the last 3 "meaningful" games, not 5.  Sorry about the mistake and for not clarifiying which "last 3 games" I meant. 

    Thanks miracleminded

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    No it's not, it was a meaningless game for the Bears.  My apologies. 

    Even so, I made a mistake.  It's 6 sacks that the Bears gave up in the last 3 "meaningful" games, not 5.  Sorry about the mistake and for not clarifiying which "last 3 games" I meant. 

    Thanks miracleminded

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