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    GOW: Chicago Bears -10.....here's WHY.....

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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2011 - 11:44 AM ET #126

    In regards to the Bears average points going up- yeah, they scored 40 vs the putrid Vikings, but they only mustered 289 total yards in that game.   with 5 viking turnovers and as usual awful special teams- any team would have scored 40 (well, maybe not carolina).

    In the Jets game the bears put up 38 again with only barely over 300 total yards.

    The Bears could only outgain 2 of their last 10 opponents by more than 20 total yards- so it's hard for me to lay 10 points knowing that.  Is it possible if not likely Hasselbeck throws mulitple ints and Hester returns kicks for TD's ?  Sure- but even then I'm not sure the Bears are a lock to cover 10.

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    In regards to the Bears average points going up- yeah, they scored 40 vs the putrid Vikings, but they only mustered 289 total yards in that game.   with 5 viking turnovers and as usual awful special teams- any team would have scored 40 (well, maybe not carolina).

    In the Jets game the bears put up 38 again with only barely over 300 total yards.

    The Bears could only outgain 2 of their last 10 opponents by more than 20 total yards- so it's hard for me to lay 10 points knowing that.  Is it possible if not likely Hasselbeck throws mulitple ints and Hester returns kicks for TD's ?  Sure- but even then I'm not sure the Bears are a lock to cover 10.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2011 - 11:47 AM ET #127

    Quote Originally Posted by byharleyjames:

    Bodio,

    Love your insight and I'd like to hear your take on some of these stats/trends. Don't know if you pay any attention to these but to me, can't be overlooked:

    I read these stats on another site and thought they would be valuable to consider today before making a play on the Chi/Sea game.....

    QBs making their first playoff start are 5-19 straight up since 2003. A little further investigation reveals that they are also 1-10 ATS since 2002. Cutler himself is 1-8 ATS when favored by 6 or more and 0-3 ATS when favored by -9  Now throw in the fact that Chicago hasn't been favored by more than 6' all year and that teams coming off straight up wins in the playoffs as underdogs the following week of 7 or more are 6-1 ATS since 2002 and I think there may be some value in taking the 10' points here.

    With those kind of stats staring ya down do you really trust Jay Cutler to lead us to the promised land ATS today?

    Thoughts?

    Hey BHJ,

    I handicap teams not trends.  Chicago hasn't been favored by more than 6 because this team has been under-valued the whole season.  Even at -10 I feel they're undervalued.  The reason is because in my opinion the Bears are a better team than the Saints right now.  And the Saints were -11 point favorites on the road facing the same team.  Most will probably disagree as they still attach the 'super-bowl champs' next to the Saints team but that team is different from the one that won it all last year.

    As to your point that playoff-virgins have done terribly in the past, that is true, but I'm not sure how many of those teams had the quality of a defense and Special Teams that this Bears squad possess.  Not many if any in my opinion.  This is a completely different game.  Historical trends won't have any impact on the outcome.  (Heck, if they did, then I'd wait for 10 blacks to hit at the roulette table and then unload ALL of my life-savings on red )

    Since you like trends, let me give you one that I found (again, I don't put much 'stock' in it but it is interesting):  Seattle is 0-9 ATS away off a HOME win over the last 3 seasons.  This is a recent trend and it's a 100% 'angle' here. 

    In any case, to answer your question though I would say this.  If 'trends' are a big part of your handicapping, then you should by all means either stay away from this game or take Seattle (Unless you like the 100% 'trend' I dug up above :))  Sure backing 'playoff-virgin' QB's hasn't been a profitable scenario in the past.  I don't  handicap based on trends, since there are some many trends out there that sometimes it's too time consuming and too difficult to figure out which ones are relevant and which ones aren't.  Also, if you dig hard enough, you can find 'trends' that favor either team.  (A team with a starting QB who attended Vanderbilt making his first playoff start, on a team with a top 5 D and top ST unit, with an African-American Head Coach, playing in a under 30 degree weather, in the second half of January, coming off a first round bye, facing a playoff team that is under .500 for the season, is 1-0 ATS since 1930....hehe...Well, at least I hope that's what this trend will be after today's game)

    Good luck buddy.  BEAR DOWN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by byharleyjames:

    Bodio,

    Love your insight and I'd like to hear your take on some of these stats/trends. Don't know if you pay any attention to these but to me, can't be overlooked:

    I read these stats on another site and thought they would be valuable to consider today before making a play on the Chi/Sea game.....

    QBs making their first playoff start are 5-19 straight up since 2003. A little further investigation reveals that they are also 1-10 ATS since 2002. Cutler himself is 1-8 ATS when favored by 6 or more and 0-3 ATS when favored by -9  Now throw in the fact that Chicago hasn't been favored by more than 6' all year and that teams coming off straight up wins in the playoffs as underdogs the following week of 7 or more are 6-1 ATS since 2002 and I think there may be some value in taking the 10' points here.

    With those kind of stats staring ya down do you really trust Jay Cutler to lead us to the promised land ATS today?

    Thoughts?

    Hey BHJ,

    I handicap teams not trends.  Chicago hasn't been favored by more than 6 because this team has been under-valued the whole season.  Even at -10 I feel they're undervalued.  The reason is because in my opinion the Bears are a better team than the Saints right now.  And the Saints were -11 point favorites on the road facing the same team.  Most will probably disagree as they still attach the 'super-bowl champs' next to the Saints team but that team is different from the one that won it all last year.

    As to your point that playoff-virgins have done terribly in the past, that is true, but I'm not sure how many of those teams had the quality of a defense and Special Teams that this Bears squad possess.  Not many if any in my opinion.  This is a completely different game.  Historical trends won't have any impact on the outcome.  (Heck, if they did, then I'd wait for 10 blacks to hit at the roulette table and then unload ALL of my life-savings on red )

    Since you like trends, let me give you one that I found (again, I don't put much 'stock' in it but it is interesting):  Seattle is 0-9 ATS away off a HOME win over the last 3 seasons.  This is a recent trend and it's a 100% 'angle' here. 

    In any case, to answer your question though I would say this.  If 'trends' are a big part of your handicapping, then you should by all means either stay away from this game or take Seattle (Unless you like the 100% 'trend' I dug up above :))  Sure backing 'playoff-virgin' QB's hasn't been a profitable scenario in the past.  I don't  handicap based on trends, since there are some many trends out there that sometimes it's too time consuming and too difficult to figure out which ones are relevant and which ones aren't.  Also, if you dig hard enough, you can find 'trends' that favor either team.  (A team with a starting QB who attended Vanderbilt making his first playoff start, on a team with a top 5 D and top ST unit, with an African-American Head Coach, playing in a under 30 degree weather, in the second half of January, coming off a first round bye, facing a playoff team that is under .500 for the season, is 1-0 ATS since 1930....hehe...Well, at least I hope that's what this trend will be after today's game)

    Good luck buddy.  BEAR DOWN!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2011 - 11:51 AM ET #128

    GL BODIO   any leans Jets @ Pats and total o/u

     

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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2011 - 11:52 AM ET #129

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybirdy:

    WOW !!  That was a extremely well written piece Bodio.  I also would say its the most informative post I've ever viewed on this site.

    PLEASE NOTE: When you bring such a writeup to this site, your genuine members will show appreciation, and of course the degenerates will hate.  Please don't let that stop you from posting.  This site needs your very interesting angles and informative writeups.

    Even if one does NOT agree w/ the play, the information provided is FOR REAL.  Again, very well written sir !!  If your capping skills are anything like your writing skills,,,,,,,,no doubt CHI is the play....

    No problem bud.  No such thing as a 'hater' -- I welcome all opinions and perspectives.  Thanks for the props and I'm glad you enjoyed the analysis (I did put a lot of work into it so good to hear some people found it beneficial or at least interesting to read).

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybirdy:

    If your capping skills are anything like your writing skills,,,,,,,,no doubt CHI is the play....

    My NFL record this season and through the playoffs is posted above the write-ups on the first page, so this should tell you how I'm doing this season.  (I only started tracking this year, so can't really provide accurate info on my past performances but will tell you that NFL is my 'best' sport)

    BEAR DOWN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybirdy:

    WOW !!  That was a extremely well written piece Bodio.  I also would say its the most informative post I've ever viewed on this site.

    PLEASE NOTE: When you bring such a writeup to this site, your genuine members will show appreciation, and of course the degenerates will hate.  Please don't let that stop you from posting.  This site needs your very interesting angles and informative writeups.

    Even if one does NOT agree w/ the play, the information provided is FOR REAL.  Again, very well written sir !!  If your capping skills are anything like your writing skills,,,,,,,,no doubt CHI is the play....

    No problem bud.  No such thing as a 'hater' -- I welcome all opinions and perspectives.  Thanks for the props and I'm glad you enjoyed the analysis (I did put a lot of work into it so good to hear some people found it beneficial or at least interesting to read).

     

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybirdy:

    If your capping skills are anything like your writing skills,,,,,,,,no doubt CHI is the play....

    My NFL record this season and through the playoffs is posted above the write-ups on the first page, so this should tell you how I'm doing this season.  (I only started tracking this year, so can't really provide accurate info on my past performances but will tell you that NFL is my 'best' sport)

    BEAR DOWN!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2011 - 11:53 AM ET #130

    Fantastic write-up Bodio! So far, I have tesaed NE-1.5 and Bears -3, and I appreciate that information. I wasn't going to take Seattle for anything, just not sure exactly how I will play NE and the Bears, may bump up that teaser!  BOL today Buddy!
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    Fantastic write-up Bodio! So far, I have tesaed NE-1.5 and Bears -3, and I appreciate that information. I wasn't going to take Seattle for anything, just not sure exactly how I will play NE and the Bears, may bump up that teaser!  BOL today Buddy!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomherst:

    this game will be within a touchdown. This is playoff football hawks won't go out without a fight. This reminds me of two years ago when the cardinals fought their way to the superbowl although I think hawks can beat the packers I do however think they have a shot to beat the bears or at least keep it close.

    Any team in the NFL has a shot!  Any team!

    BEAR DOWN brutha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomherst:

    this game will be within a touchdown. This is playoff football hawks won't go out without a fight. This reminds me of two years ago when the cardinals fought their way to the superbowl although I think hawks can beat the packers I do however think they have a shot to beat the bears or at least keep it close.

    Any team in the NFL has a shot!  Any team!

    BEAR DOWN brutha!

     
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    Like it mah man G:L bodio
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoMachine:

    Terrific w/up Bodio.... where you from in Illinois?  Im in Oak Forest.

    Go Bears!!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChicagoMachine:

    Terrific w/up Bodio.... where you from in Illinois?  Im in Oak Forest.

    Go Bears!!

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    Classic,  great RESEARCHED OPINE of any game albeit from a "homer" Bears slant, you "sold" my $$$$$ on da BEARS. Home, well rested, despiteJay  , and Monsters of Midway "D"

    da BEARS SHOULD totally shut down frigid Seahags, methodically  using Martz new found rushing "mentality", I agree Hawks may not score 10 as long as CUTLER doesn't turn ball over

    Thanx and I'm all over the alts here Bears in a BLOWOUT, besides seahags = vikings, remember that game Played at  under 20'

    Yes I am a Bears fan, but when it comes to handicapping and $$, I keep my 'loyalty' out of it.  I've bet against the Bears plenty of times.  Heck, I had Packers -10 in week 17 as my GOW!  :)

    In any case, you're right on with the 'factors' you listed that favor the Bears in this one.  BEAR DOWN brutha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    Classic,  great RESEARCHED OPINE of any game albeit from a "homer" Bears slant, you "sold" my $$$$$ on da BEARS. Home, well rested, despiteJay  , and Monsters of Midway "D"

    da BEARS SHOULD totally shut down frigid Seahags, methodically  using Martz new found rushing "mentality", I agree Hawks may not score 10 as long as CUTLER doesn't turn ball over

    Thanx and I'm all over the alts here Bears in a BLOWOUT, besides seahags = vikings, remember that game Played at  under 20'

    Yes I am a Bears fan, but when it comes to handicapping and $$, I keep my 'loyalty' out of it.  I've bet against the Bears plenty of times.  Heck, I had Packers -10 in week 17 as my GOW!  :)

    In any case, you're right on with the 'factors' you listed that favor the Bears in this one.  BEAR DOWN brutha!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigEastExpert:

    Good stuff.

    Go Bears.

    Good luck buddy!  Go BEARS!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigEastExpert:

    Good stuff.

    Go Bears.

    Good luck buddy!  Go BEARS!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2011 - 11:59 AM ET #137

    Quote Originally Posted by Cali-Underdog:

    I'm going with the underdogs today. Seahawks +10

    Jets +9. Good luck everyone!

     

    Bear DOWN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cali-Underdog:

    I'm going with the underdogs today. Seahawks +10

    Jets +9. Good luck everyone!

     

    Bear DOWN!

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2011 - 11:59 AM ET #138

    Thanks for the response Bodio and I agree, trends don't get it done all the time. Being a Chicago native and a Bear fan it pained me to see such stats but thought bringing them to light and hearing your opinion would serve the community a bit.

    That is an interesting stat regarding Sea record after a home win and perhaps has gone far in "talking me off the ledge" as far as a Sea play is concerned.

    Good Luck bud

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    Thanks for the response Bodio and I agree, trends don't get it done all the time. Being a Chicago native and a Bear fan it pained me to see such stats but thought bringing them to light and hearing your opinion would serve the community a bit.

    That is an interesting stat regarding Sea record after a home win and perhaps has gone far in "talking me off the ledge" as far as a Sea play is concerned.

    Good Luck bud

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by tsw:

    In regards to the Bears average points going up- yeah, they scored 40 vs the putrid Vikings, but they only mustered 289 total yards in that game.   with 5 viking turnovers and as usual awful special teams- any team would have scored 40 (well, maybe not carolina).

    In the Jets game the bears put up 38 again with only barely over 300 total yards.

    The Bears could only outgain 2 of their last 10 opponents by more than 20 total yards- so it's hard for me to lay 10 points knowing that.  Is it possible if not likely Hasselbeck throws mulitple ints and Hester returns kicks for TD's ?  Sure- but even then I'm not sure the Bears are a lock to cover 10.

    Field position and great Defense will always shorten the field, so you won't have to gain as many yards as an average team to put up points.  Plus Bears have been very efficient on offense measured by their improved Yards-Per-Point (YPPT) metric.

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    In regards to the Bears average points going up- yeah, they scored 40 vs the putrid Vikings, but they only mustered 289 total yards in that game.   with 5 viking turnovers and as usual awful special teams- any team would have scored 40 (well, maybe not carolina).

    In the Jets game the bears put up 38 again with only barely over 300 total yards.

    The Bears could only outgain 2 of their last 10 opponents by more than 20 total yards- so it's hard for me to lay 10 points knowing that.  Is it possible if not likely Hasselbeck throws mulitple ints and Hester returns kicks for TD's ?  Sure- but even then I'm not sure the Bears are a lock to cover 10.

    Field position and great Defense will always shorten the field, so you won't have to gain as many yards as an average team to put up points.  Plus Bears have been very efficient on offense measured by their improved Yards-Per-Point (YPPT) metric.

     
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    I APPRECIATE THIS TREAD...most insightful write-up I've seen this weekend. I love the Bears in this position and they SHOULD win.


    HOWEVER, how can you QUANTIFY motivation OR the fact the sometime the NFL want a certain team to advance and will ensure all start align so that this happens. No Stat predicts that.


    Furthermore, your impressive fact-based write-up is so perfect, I kinda what to fade it (nothing personal).just because it's too easy to take CHI and NE today.

    Commentary Please....


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    I APPRECIATE THIS TREAD...most insightful write-up I've seen this weekend. I love the Bears in this position and they SHOULD win.


    HOWEVER, how can you QUANTIFY motivation OR the fact the sometime the NFL want a certain team to advance and will ensure all start align so that this happens. No Stat predicts that.


    Furthermore, your impressive fact-based write-up is so perfect, I kinda what to fade it (nothing personal).just because it's too easy to take CHI and NE today.

    Commentary Please....


     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2011 - 12:05 PM ET #141

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmythejap:

    GL BODIO   any leans Jets @ Pats and total o/u

     

    I have a futures play on Steelers so would love to see the Jets win the game:  https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=100949096

    That being said, I feel the line is just a shade off.  I think it should be closer to -7 Pats, then -9, but that's not enough 'line-value' to fade the Pats.  It's a PASS for me. 

    My computer model has a 30-20 Pats win, so I would lean to the OVER, but the RLM is interesting here.  76% on the OVER, yet the line moved from 45.5 to 44 (which is a key #).  Another PASS. 

    Pats -2 / Bears -3 teaser would be a recommended 'action' wager here. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmythejap:

    GL BODIO   any leans Jets @ Pats and total o/u

     

    I have a futures play on Steelers so would love to see the Jets win the game:  https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=100949096

    That being said, I feel the line is just a shade off.  I think it should be closer to -7 Pats, then -9, but that's not enough 'line-value' to fade the Pats.  It's a PASS for me. 

    My computer model has a 30-20 Pats win, so I would lean to the OVER, but the RLM is interesting here.  76% on the OVER, yet the line moved from 45.5 to 44 (which is a key #).  Another PASS. 

    Pats -2 / Bears -3 teaser would be a recommended 'action' wager here. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 16, 2011 - 12:06 PM ET #142

    Quote Originally Posted by PGram13:

    Fantastic write-up Bodio! So far, I have tesaed NE-1.5 and Bears -3, and I appreciate that information. I wasn't going to take Seattle for anything, just not sure exactly how I will play NE and the Bears, may bump up that teaser!  BOL today Buddy!

    Like that teaser a lot.  I have a Bears -3 / Steelers +4 teaser as my 3rd official play this weekend (Won with Steelers as my 1st play) and I might actually do a small 'action' wager on a Bears -3 / Pats -2 teaser....GL bud and BEAR DOWN

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    Quote Originally Posted by PGram13:

    Fantastic write-up Bodio! So far, I have tesaed NE-1.5 and Bears -3, and I appreciate that information. I wasn't going to take Seattle for anything, just not sure exactly how I will play NE and the Bears, may bump up that teaser!  BOL today Buddy!

    Like that teaser a lot.  I have a Bears -3 / Steelers +4 teaser as my 3rd official play this weekend (Won with Steelers as my 1st play) and I might actually do a small 'action' wager on a Bears -3 / Pats -2 teaser....GL bud and BEAR DOWN

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:

    Right on brutha. 

    Something about that Pats/Jets game is worrying me.  NE is the best team in the league but I think the Jets can keep it close.  Their swagger and cockiness are pretty annoying but it might be the difference in covering that line on Sunday.  There's a reason why they're doing so much talking -- nothing left to do on Sunday but back that shit up and I think they might be able to.  (Probably won't win but might be able to keep it close)



    The Jets are talking a lot less after that 3 - 45 humbling beat down.  I like the Jets on the points, and even threw a tid bit on the ML at 3.5 to 1.

    I am a huge Bears fan but was going to stay off the double digit line.  Bodio you are swaying me into a wager here though.... GO BEARS!
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    Right on brutha. 

    Something about that Pats/Jets game is worrying me.  NE is the best team in the league but I think the Jets can keep it close.  Their swagger and cockiness are pretty annoying but it might be the difference in covering that line on Sunday.  There's a reason why they're doing so much talking -- nothing left to do on Sunday but back that shit up and I think they might be able to.  (Probably won't win but might be able to keep it close)



    The Jets are talking a lot less after that 3 - 45 humbling beat down.  I like the Jets on the points, and even threw a tid bit on the ML at 3.5 to 1.

    I am a huge Bears fan but was going to stay off the double digit line.  Bodio you are swaying me into a wager here though.... GO BEARS!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by byharleyjames:

    Thanks for the response Bodio and I agree, trends don't get it done all the time. Being a Chicago native and a Bear fan it pained me to see such stats but thought bringing them to light and hearing your opinion would serve the community a bit.

    That is an interesting stat regarding Sea record after a home win and perhaps has gone far in "talking me off the ledge" as far as a Sea play is concerned.

    Good Luck bud

     

    Not a problem.  Thank you for bringing those stats/trends up. Much appreciated.

    Yeah, that was pretty interesting 0-9 ATS trend there.

    Here's another one for you:  Seattle is 0-10 ATS AWAY after 1 or more consecutive wins over the last 3 seasons.  It obviously builds-off the trend listed above, but just interesting how truly poor Seattle has been on the road after a win.  It's like the team plays their 'heart' out to get a win, and then doesn't have enough energy to sustain it when they hit the road. 

    An interesting trend, but has no impact on today's game.

    BEAR DOWN!

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    Quote Originally Posted by byharleyjames:

    Thanks for the response Bodio and I agree, trends don't get it done all the time. Being a Chicago native and a Bear fan it pained me to see such stats but thought bringing them to light and hearing your opinion would serve the community a bit.

    That is an interesting stat regarding Sea record after a home win and perhaps has gone far in "talking me off the ledge" as far as a Sea play is concerned.

    Good Luck bud

     

    Not a problem.  Thank you for bringing those stats/trends up. Much appreciated.

    Yeah, that was pretty interesting 0-9 ATS trend there.

    Here's another one for you:  Seattle is 0-10 ATS AWAY after 1 or more consecutive wins over the last 3 seasons.  It obviously builds-off the trend listed above, but just interesting how truly poor Seattle has been on the road after a win.  It's like the team plays their 'heart' out to get a win, and then doesn't have enough energy to sustain it when they hit the road. 

    An interesting trend, but has no impact on today's game.

    BEAR DOWN!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:

    I have a futures play on Steelers so would love to see the Jets win the game:  https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=100949096

    That being said, I feel the line is just a shade off.  I think it should be closer to -7 Pats, then -9, but that's not enough 'line-value' to fade the Pats.  It's a PASS for me. 

    My computer model has a 30-20 Pats win, so I would lean to the OVER, but the RLM is interesting here.  76% on the OVER, yet the line moved from 45.5 to 44 (which is a key #).  Another PASS. 

    Pats -2 / Bears -3 teaser would be a recommended 'action' wager here. 

     

    THANKS AGAIN BODIO  

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    I have a futures play on Steelers so would love to see the Jets win the game:  https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=21&sub=100949096

    That being said, I feel the line is just a shade off.  I think it should be closer to -7 Pats, then -9, but that's not enough 'line-value' to fade the Pats.  It's a PASS for me. 

    My computer model has a 30-20 Pats win, so I would lean to the OVER, but the RLM is interesting here.  76% on the OVER, yet the line moved from 45.5 to 44 (which is a key #).  Another PASS. 

    Pats -2 / Bears -3 teaser would be a recommended 'action' wager here. 

     

    THANKS AGAIN BODIO  

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by FouLLine:



    The Jets are talking a lot less after that 3 - 45 humbling beat down.  I like the Jets on the points, and even threw a tid bit on the ML at 3.5 to 1.

    I am a huge Bears fan but was going to stay off the double digit line.  Bodio you are swaying me into a wager here though.... GO BEARS!

    Yeah, I think "Jets" are the sharp wager today but there's no way in hell I would fade this awesome Pats team right now.

    BEAR DOWN brutha!

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    The Jets are talking a lot less after that 3 - 45 humbling beat down.  I like the Jets on the points, and even threw a tid bit on the ML at 3.5 to 1.

    I am a huge Bears fan but was going to stay off the double digit line.  Bodio you are swaying me into a wager here though.... GO BEARS!

    Yeah, I think "Jets" are the sharp wager today but there's no way in hell I would fade this awesome Pats team right now.

    BEAR DOWN brutha!

     
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    Bears -10...... great write up.....i love that the public is on the chickens.....suddenly everyone thinks this team is good...i bet against them last week and i will continue to bet against them till they are out....this team is terrible and it will show at some point.....you have no 12th man anymore chicken....

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    Bears -10...... great write up.....i love that the public is on the chickens.....suddenly everyone thinks this team is good...i bet against them last week and i will continue to bet against them till they are out....this team is terrible and it will show at some point.....you have no 12th man anymore chicken....

    BLOWOUT!

    GL

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bodio:

    Field position and great Defense will always shorten the field, so you won't have to gain as many yards as an average team to put up points.  Plus Bears have been very efficient on offense measured by their improved Yards-Per-Point (YPPT) metric.

    Still, how many double digit favorites do you ever see that have only outgained 2 of their last 10 opponents by more than 20 yards ? 

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    Field position and great Defense will always shorten the field, so you won't have to gain as many yards as an average team to put up points.  Plus Bears have been very efficient on offense measured by their improved Yards-Per-Point (YPPT) metric.

    Still, how many double digit favorites do you ever see that have only outgained 2 of their last 10 opponents by more than 20 yards ? 

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by redskinsnut:

    Good luck Vegas Butcher!

     

    Thanks buddy! 

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    Good luck Vegas Butcher!

     

    Thanks buddy! 

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