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    Giants backers - you have less than 24 hours to talk me out of betting the Patriots

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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:31 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant:

    3rd - I like the counter arguments....it actually made sense and made me feel a little better.
     
    Good luck to us...

    You have to argue the other side's case objectively, especially when you have one game to look at and two weeks to look at it. It's just the right thing to do.

    I like our chances tomorrow. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant:

    3rd - I like the counter arguments....it actually made sense and made me feel a little better.
     
    Good luck to us...

    You have to argue the other side's case objectively, especially when you have one game to look at and two weeks to look at it. It's just the right thing to do.

    I like our chances tomorrow. 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:35 PM ET #27

    Giants were pretty banged up on secondary, and Ohara center  during playoffs  at the end of the reg season and  now they had 2 weeks to heal ,also they have nothing to lose but to win this game out right ----Screw the point spread Pats Dont cover anymore they just sqeeking by lately and won themselfs back to the big game but they are all people just like the other side and its possible Brady might not Finish this game when  the Giants put some Pressure on Brady and he will be throwing more picks sunday and the Giants may have 2 defencive TDs when all said and done ----Take the points and first half over 27.5  
     
     
    Props I like ----margin of Victory Giants win by 1-3 pts  8-1
     
    margin of victory Giants Win by 4-7 points  12-1
     
    margin of victory Pats win by 1-3 points  7-1 for a backup
     
    good luck
     
     
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    Giants were pretty banged up on secondary, and Ohara center  during playoffs  at the end of the reg season and  now they had 2 weeks to heal ,also they have nothing to lose but to win this game out right ----Screw the point spread Pats Dont cover anymore they just sqeeking by lately and won themselfs back to the big game but they are all people just like the other side and its possible Brady might not Finish this game when  the Giants put some Pressure on Brady and he will be throwing more picks sunday and the Giants may have 2 defencive TDs when all said and done ----Take the points and first half over 27.5  
     
     
    Props I like ----margin of Victory Giants win by 1-3 pts  8-1
     
    margin of victory Giants Win by 4-7 points  12-1
     
    margin of victory Pats win by 1-3 points  7-1 for a backup
     
    good luck
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:41 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by losuds63:

    Giants were pretty banged up on secondary, and Ohara center  during playoffs  at the end of the reg season and  now they had 2 weeks to heal ,also they have nothing to lose but to win this game out right ----Screw the point spread Pats Dont cover anymore they just sqeeking by lately and won themselfs back to the big game but they are all people just like the other side and its possible Brady might not Finish this game when  the Giants put some Pressure on Brady and he will be throwing more picks sunday and the Giants may have 2 defencive TDs when all said and done ----Take the points and first half over 27.5  
     
     
    Props I like ----margin of Victory Giants win by 1-3 pts  8-1
     
    margin of victory Giants Win by 4-7 points  12-1
     
    margin of victory Pats win by 1-3 points  7-1 for a backup
     
    good luck
     
     
    Jets fans

    How is winning by 11 & 9 and never being in danger of losing squeaking by? Giants are squeaking by if anyone is, they won their last two by 4 & 3, and were in danger both of those games.

    Brasy got sacked once in the last matchup with half the o-line out. Where is this pressure going to come from? Defensive TD's? Now your really reaching.

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    Quote Originally Posted by losuds63:

    Giants were pretty banged up on secondary, and Ohara center  during playoffs  at the end of the reg season and  now they had 2 weeks to heal ,also they have nothing to lose but to win this game out right ----Screw the point spread Pats Dont cover anymore they just sqeeking by lately and won themselfs back to the big game but they are all people just like the other side and its possible Brady might not Finish this game when  the Giants put some Pressure on Brady and he will be throwing more picks sunday and the Giants may have 2 defencive TDs when all said and done ----Take the points and first half over 27.5  
     
     
    Props I like ----margin of Victory Giants win by 1-3 pts  8-1
     
    margin of victory Giants Win by 4-7 points  12-1
     
    margin of victory Pats win by 1-3 points  7-1 for a backup
     
    good luck
     
     
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    How is winning by 11 & 9 and never being in danger of losing squeaking by? Giants are squeaking by if anyone is, they won their last two by 4 & 3, and were in danger both of those games.

    Brasy got sacked once in the last matchup with half the o-line out. Where is this pressure going to come from? Defensive TD's? Now your really reaching.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:41 PM ET #29

    The Giants have to run the ball, which quite frankly alot of teams have done to the Patriots. It seems like the Patriots weakness is at linebacker and Eli has excelled in the controlled passing game of late. I think the Giants will score but I don't know how you stop that offense with two weeks to prepare...
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    The Giants have to run the ball, which quite frankly alot of teams have done to the Patriots. It seems like the Patriots weakness is at linebacker and Eli has excelled in the controlled passing game of late. I think the Giants will score but I don't know how you stop that offense with two weeks to prepare...
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:46 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by BigZman:

    My condolences on being a Jets fan. 


    The two teams you hate the most are in the SB.

    The Jets will be good next year.  


    i hate the dolphins much much much much than i do the pats and giants combined
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigZman:

    My condolences on being a Jets fan. 


    The two teams you hate the most are in the SB.

    The Jets will be good next year.  


    i hate the dolphins much much much much than i do the pats and giants combined
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:47 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    How is winning by 11 & 9 and never being in danger of losing squeaking by? Giants are squeaking by if anyone is, they won their last two by 4 & 3, and were in danger both of those games.

    Brasy got sacked once in the last matchup with half the o-line out. Where is this pressure going to come from? Defensive TD's? Now your really reaching.

     

    Iam talking like a Giant Fan that iam ---I bet the Pats last few games got the   there not going to cover this spread

     

     

    Lets Get It On ----Cant read anymore or hear shit from TV just want this kick off to start and let the cards be what they will be ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    How is winning by 11 & 9 and never being in danger of losing squeaking by? Giants are squeaking by if anyone is, they won their last two by 4 & 3, and were in danger both of those games.

    Brasy got sacked once in the last matchup with half the o-line out. Where is this pressure going to come from? Defensive TD's? Now your really reaching.

     

    Iam talking like a Giant Fan that iam ---I bet the Pats last few games got the   there not going to cover this spread

     

     

    Lets Get It On ----Cant read anymore or hear shit from TV just want this kick off to start and let the cards be what they will be ..

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:47 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    How is winning by 11 & 9 and never being in danger of losing squeaking by? Giants are squeaking by if anyone is, they won their last two by 4 & 3, and were in danger both of those games.

    Brady got sacked once in the last matchup with half the o-line out. Where is this pressure going to come from? Defensive TD's? Now you're really reaching.

    typos, I'm tired, long day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    How is winning by 11 & 9 and never being in danger of losing squeaking by? Giants are squeaking by if anyone is, they won their last two by 4 & 3, and were in danger both of those games.

    Brady got sacked once in the last matchup with half the o-line out. Where is this pressure going to come from? Defensive TD's? Now you're really reaching.

    typos, I'm tired, long day.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:49 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by losuds63:

     

    Iam talking like a Giant Fan that iam ---I bet the Pats last few games got the   there not going to cover this spread

     

     

    Lets Get It On ----Cant read anymore or hear shit from TV just want this kick off to start and let the cards be what they will be ..

    That's fine, you are a fan. That I can live with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by losuds63:

     

    Iam talking like a Giant Fan that iam ---I bet the Pats last few games got the   there not going to cover this spread

     

     

    Lets Get It On ----Cant read anymore or hear shit from TV just want this kick off to start and let the cards be what they will be ..

    That's fine, you are a fan. That I can live with.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:51 PM ET #35

    CAN WE LEAVE THE JET BASHING OUT OF THIS
     
     
    it was a rough year.
     
     
     
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    CAN WE LEAVE THE JET BASHING OUT OF THIS
     
     
    it was a rough year.
     
     
     
     
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    Sleep well everyone and start drinking early sunday
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    Sleep well everyone and start drinking early sunday
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 10:53 PM ET #37

    How do you think I feel here?
     
    I'M A COLTS FAN BETTING MONEY ON THE PATRIOTS 
     
    I feel dirty.
     
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    How do you think I feel here?
     
    I'M A COLTS FAN BETTING MONEY ON THE PATRIOTS 
     
    I feel dirty.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:06 PM ET #38

    Topic: Giants backers - you have less than 24 hours to talk me out of betting the Patriots
     
    Need to call in the big guns for this job.   link
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:10 PM ET #39

    because plaxico says so
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    because plaxico says so
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:17 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    How do you think I feel here?
     
    I'M A COLTS FAN BETTING MONEY ON THE PATRIOTS 
     
    I feel dirty.
     

    Our colts future wagers

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3rd_and_Long:

    How do you think I feel here?
     
    I'M A COLTS FAN BETTING MONEY ON THE PATRIOTS 
     
    I feel dirty.
     

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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:17 PM ET #41

    To all NE (-12) backers, remember you a putting your money on a team who is 2-8 against the number their last ten games, including losing their last five in a row to the number.  Once again, the Pats are asked to cover a DD number.  You wanted a reason not to take the Pats to cover?  What have the Pats shown in the last 10 weeks that makes them look like a good investment as a DD favorite yet again?
     
    You wanted a reason not lay points with NE.  If that's not good enough, you are blind.  Zero covers their last 5 games.  2-8 against the number their last 10.  That's horseshit!
     
    That said, my #1 play tomorrow is the under (for the game).  I see the total is starting to climb....hope it gets to 55 or beyond.    
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    To all NE (-12) backers, remember you a putting your money on a team who is 2-8 against the number their last ten games, including losing their last five in a row to the number.  Once again, the Pats are asked to cover a DD number.  You wanted a reason not to take the Pats to cover?  What have the Pats shown in the last 10 weeks that makes them look like a good investment as a DD favorite yet again?
     
    You wanted a reason not lay points with NE.  If that's not good enough, you are blind.  Zero covers their last 5 games.  2-8 against the number their last 10.  That's horseshit!
     
    That said, my #1 play tomorrow is the under (for the game).  I see the total is starting to climb....hope it gets to 55 or beyond.    
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:18 PM ET #42

    hey im a raiders fan-cant get much worse than that
    totally undecided on this game.........i honestly dont think im gonna bet it.i may take the under and just watch it.I've got a couple "boxes" with decent numbers so i may just call that my bets for the day.my thing is this:the pats should blow them out since they haven't had that blow out game recently and have had 2 weeks to prepare the plan......BUT..........i cant rule out a giants win either.that makes no sense - and this game makes no sense.anything can happen here and even being the biggest degenerate around and having to bet a game every day - I just cant cap the fn game.i think it should be a 34-17 game and the pats take it.BUT like i said, i cant rule out a giant win either.good luck guys.
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    hey im a raiders fan-cant get much worse than that
    totally undecided on this game.........i honestly dont think im gonna bet it.i may take the under and just watch it.I've got a couple "boxes" with decent numbers so i may just call that my bets for the day.my thing is this:the pats should blow them out since they haven't had that blow out game recently and have had 2 weeks to prepare the plan......BUT..........i cant rule out a giants win either.that makes no sense - and this game makes no sense.anything can happen here and even being the biggest degenerate around and having to bet a game every day - I just cant cap the fn game.i think it should be a 34-17 game and the pats take it.BUT like i said, i cant rule out a giant win either.good luck guys.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:22 PM ET #43

    No reason. Just be yourself. good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEF:

    To all NE (-12) backers, remember you a putting your money on a team who is 2-8 against the number their last ten games, including losing their last five in a row to the number.  Once again, the Pats are asked to cover a DD number.  You wanted a reason not to take the Pats to cover?  What have the Pats shown in the last 10 weeks that makes them look like a good investment as a DD favorite yet again?
     
    You wanted a reason not lay points with NE.  If that's not good enough, you are blind.  Zero covers their last 5 games.  2-8 against the number their last 10.  That's horseshit!
     
    That said, my #1 play tomorrow is the under (for the game).  I see the total is starting to climb....hope it gets to 55 or beyond.    

    2-8 ATS in terrible weather against the most inflated point spreads in the history of the NFL. And yes, I rode the hell out of that train.

    14, 13.5, 13, 22, 20.5, 10.5, 19, 24, 16 and 5 (Colts) 

    12.5 here - I think that's the first realistic spread since the Colts game.

    Guess I'm blind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BEF:

    To all NE (-12) backers, remember you a putting your money on a team who is 2-8 against the number their last ten games, including losing their last five in a row to the number.  Once again, the Pats are asked to cover a DD number.  You wanted a reason not to take the Pats to cover?  What have the Pats shown in the last 10 weeks that makes them look like a good investment as a DD favorite yet again?
     
    You wanted a reason not lay points with NE.  If that's not good enough, you are blind.  Zero covers their last 5 games.  2-8 against the number their last 10.  That's horseshit!
     
    That said, my #1 play tomorrow is the under (for the game).  I see the total is starting to climb....hope it gets to 55 or beyond.    

    2-8 ATS in terrible weather against the most inflated point spreads in the history of the NFL. And yes, I rode the hell out of that train.

    14, 13.5, 13, 22, 20.5, 10.5, 19, 24, 16 and 5 (Colts) 

    12.5 here - I think that's the first realistic spread since the Colts game.

    Guess I'm blind.

     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:28 PM ET #45

    Off to bed guys, see you all tomorrow.
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    Off to bed guys, see you all tomorrow.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:30 PM ET #46

    Ok.....
     
    Pats will put up 31 regardless......Brady 3 TD minimum.  they're angry.  They're going to try to make it ugly.  It'll work and the rout will be on, Pats hit 50 maybe.
     
    Or.....
     
    Brady goes for too much too soon, turnovers happen.  Giants stay in it......and can score with the Pats.
     
    Eli will throw 4 of something.  Picks and TD's combined.....4 or more altogether.  If he's throwing touchdowns, it's points.  If he's throwing picks, it's points for the Pats.
     
    All this tells me?   uh, pound the over.  Before it hits 54 if you're smart.
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    Ok.....
     
    Pats will put up 31 regardless......Brady 3 TD minimum.  they're angry.  They're going to try to make it ugly.  It'll work and the rout will be on, Pats hit 50 maybe.
     
    Or.....
     
    Brady goes for too much too soon, turnovers happen.  Giants stay in it......and can score with the Pats.
     
    Eli will throw 4 of something.  Picks and TD's combined.....4 or more altogether.  If he's throwing touchdowns, it's points.  If he's throwing picks, it's points for the Pats.
     
    All this tells me?   uh, pound the over.  Before it hits 54 if you're smart.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:32 PM ET #47

    will 4th and long enter this thread?
     
     
     
     
     
    Hes been posting in the box
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    will 4th and long enter this thread?
     
     
     
     
     
    Hes been posting in the box
     
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    um did u not notice the Pats ATS the 2nd half of the year being at least DD favs every game.
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    um did u not notice the Pats ATS the 2nd half of the year being at least DD favs every game.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEF:

    To all NE (-12) backers, remember you a putting your money on a team who is 2-8 against the number their last ten games, including losing their last five in a row to the number.  Once again, the Pats are asked to cover a DD number.  You wanted a reason not to take the Pats to cover?  What have the Pats shown in the last 10 weeks that makes them look like a good investment as a DD favorite yet again?
     
    You wanted a reason not lay points with NE.  If that's not good enough, you are blind.  Zero covers their last 5 games.  2-8 against the number their last 10.  That's horseshit!
     
    That said, my #1 play tomorrow is the under (for the game).  I see the total is starting to climb....hope it gets to 55 or beyond.    


    If that's your reason for playing the Giants then you shouldn't be betting.

    As for the reasons why the Giants will cover? Well as has been covered above they need almost a completely flawless game and I believe in order to win SU they need at least 2 defensive/special teams scores. As any of you know who have read my posts I firmly believe that this one will be a laugher and Pats win easily, as for the reasons? I could go on and on (check my thread for a brief writeup) but the bottomline is have a good time tomorrow boys watching the greatest team of all time accomplish history

    Good thread BTW 3rd
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    Quote Originally Posted by BEF:

    To all NE (-12) backers, remember you a putting your money on a team who is 2-8 against the number their last ten games, including losing their last five in a row to the number.  Once again, the Pats are asked to cover a DD number.  You wanted a reason not to take the Pats to cover?  What have the Pats shown in the last 10 weeks that makes them look like a good investment as a DD favorite yet again?
     
    You wanted a reason not lay points with NE.  If that's not good enough, you are blind.  Zero covers their last 5 games.  2-8 against the number their last 10.  That's horseshit!
     
    That said, my #1 play tomorrow is the under (for the game).  I see the total is starting to climb....hope it gets to 55 or beyond.    


    If that's your reason for playing the Giants then you shouldn't be betting.

    As for the reasons why the Giants will cover? Well as has been covered above they need almost a completely flawless game and I believe in order to win SU they need at least 2 defensive/special teams scores. As any of you know who have read my posts I firmly believe that this one will be a laugher and Pats win easily, as for the reasons? I could go on and on (check my thread for a brief writeup) but the bottomline is have a good time tomorrow boys watching the greatest team of all time accomplish history

    Good thread BTW 3rd
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 2, 2008 - 11:45 PM ET #50

    OK 3rd how about The Brady Bodyguards as a reason.
     
    He’s been sacked a career-low 24 times this season playing behind the hefty Neal (6-foot-4, 305 pounds), left tackle Matt Light [stats] (6-4, 305), left guard Logan Mankins [stats] (6-4, 310), center Dan Koppen (6-2, 296) and right tackle Nick Kaczur (6-4, 315).
     
    I think two of the starting linemen G/T were kept out of week #17 game............and all though Brady was hit and rushed only one sack.
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    OK 3rd how about The Brady Bodyguards as a reason.
     
    He’s been sacked a career-low 24 times this season playing behind the hefty Neal (6-foot-4, 305 pounds), left tackle Matt Light [stats] (6-4, 305), left guard Logan Mankins [stats] (6-4, 310), center Dan Koppen (6-2, 296) and right tackle Nick Kaczur (6-4, 315).
     
    I think two of the starting linemen G/T were kept out of week #17 game............and all though Brady was hit and rushed only one sack.
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