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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 1:51 PM ET #26

    Dont the Dogs usually cover in cowboys games?
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 2:12 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by EazyFBaby:

    Give me a break, lets look at the teams they have beaten outside of Seattle.
    Titans    2-4
    Rams    1-3
    Saints   2-3
    Texans  3-3

    Yes, but you have to play the teams on your schedule, and who line up against you.  It's not the Cowboys fault those teams aren't exactly the cream of the crop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EazyFBaby:

    Give me a break, lets look at the teams they have beaten outside of Seattle.
    Titans    2-4
    Rams    1-3
    Saints   2-3
    Texans  3-3

    Yes, but you have to play the teams on your schedule, and who line up against you.  It's not the Cowboys fault those teams aren't exactly the cream of the crop.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 2:45 PM ET #28

    giants or nothing, BUT they are missing cruz and jennings..... 
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 2:49 PM ET #29

    mmmmmmmmmm...pour me a nice tall drink of the Cowboy Kool-Aid

    NYG? ... 
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 2:49 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by mikeru3:

    Dallas is legit Hoss.

    Nice goose egg for Giants on Sunday.



    Oh wow they let you out? Giants arent as bad as they looked on sunday, and cowboys aren't as good. I dunno about "pounding" this giant squad vs. anyone, but they aren't going to lay another egg this sunday, not happening. 
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    Dallas is legit Hoss.

    Nice goose egg for Giants on Sunday.



    Oh wow they let you out? Giants arent as bad as they looked on sunday, and cowboys aren't as good. I dunno about "pounding" this giant squad vs. anyone, but they aren't going to lay another egg this sunday, not happening. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 3:50 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by EazyFBaby:


    It's not an automatic fade, I still think the Giants are better than the Cowboys... Cowboys beat the defending champs and all of a sudden they're super bowl bound? Give me a break, lets look at the teams they have beaten outside of Seattle.

    Titans    2-4
    Rams    1-3
    Saints    2-3
    Texans  3-3

    I'm not buying the hype, Giants keep this game close and have an excellent chance to win outright 


    and who have the giants beat??

    Texans 3-3
    Redskins 1-5
    Falcons 2-4


    Ill take dallas' wins over the giants... dallas has had a better schedule and they have played a lot more consistently than the giants... im probably staying away from this game but imo it's dallas or nothing
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    Quote Originally Posted by EazyFBaby:


    It's not an automatic fade, I still think the Giants are better than the Cowboys... Cowboys beat the defending champs and all of a sudden they're super bowl bound? Give me a break, lets look at the teams they have beaten outside of Seattle.

    Titans    2-4
    Rams    1-3
    Saints    2-3
    Texans  3-3

    I'm not buying the hype, Giants keep this game close and have an excellent chance to win outright 


    and who have the giants beat??

    Texans 3-3
    Redskins 1-5
    Falcons 2-4


    Ill take dallas' wins over the giants... dallas has had a better schedule and they have played a lot more consistently than the giants... im probably staying away from this game but imo it's dallas or nothing
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 4:03 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by 2Team_Parlay:

    and who have the giants beat??

    Texans 3-3
    Redskins 1-5
    Falcons 2-4


    Ill take dallas' wins over the giants... dallas has had a better schedule and they have played a lot more consistently than the giants... im probably staying away from this game but imo it's dallas or nothing

    Yeh, ill agree with 2 team here. Only team more consistent than the cowboys this year has been the chargers. I still think the giants aren't as bad as they showed on sunday, but you never know what you're gonna get because coughlin doesn't motivate this team. This teams motivated by the new york media, not the coach, certainly not the qb, and i see leadership voids all over the place with this team. They didn't even bother showing up to play philly, it was embarassing, no way should connor barwin dominate an o line the way he dominated the giants one, hes not that good. 
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    and who have the giants beat??

    Texans 3-3
    Redskins 1-5
    Falcons 2-4


    Ill take dallas' wins over the giants... dallas has had a better schedule and they have played a lot more consistently than the giants... im probably staying away from this game but imo it's dallas or nothing

    Yeh, ill agree with 2 team here. Only team more consistent than the cowboys this year has been the chargers. I still think the giants aren't as bad as they showed on sunday, but you never know what you're gonna get because coughlin doesn't motivate this team. This teams motivated by the new york media, not the coach, certainly not the qb, and i see leadership voids all over the place with this team. They didn't even bother showing up to play philly, it was embarassing, no way should connor barwin dominate an o line the way he dominated the giants one, hes not that good. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 4:04 PM ET #33

    First of all:

    The Giants are very VERY unpredictable. They have an above average offense with a good quarterback. NOT a dependable quarterback. Eli used to be dependable but not anymore. With that being said, you don't know what you're going to get when the Giants offense takes the field. 3 straight TD drives or 3 straight turnovers, take your pick. (no pun intended)

    Don't even get me started with the Giants Defense.

    On the other side I see a healthy, strong, and talented Cowboys team who is hungry this year, and is most definitely showing it on the field. This is a no brainer for me. Cowboys coming back home and playing a division rival after a huge road win in Seattle? How much more confidence do you need?

    Easy money here. Cowboys 34      Giants 17

     

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    First of all:

    The Giants are very VERY unpredictable. They have an above average offense with a good quarterback. NOT a dependable quarterback. Eli used to be dependable but not anymore. With that being said, you don't know what you're going to get when the Giants offense takes the field. 3 straight TD drives or 3 straight turnovers, take your pick. (no pun intended)

    Don't even get me started with the Giants Defense.

    On the other side I see a healthy, strong, and talented Cowboys team who is hungry this year, and is most definitely showing it on the field. This is a no brainer for me. Cowboys coming back home and playing a division rival after a huge road win in Seattle? How much more confidence do you need?

    Easy money here. Cowboys 34      Giants 17

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 4:19 PM ET #34

    last year didnt they score 98 between them? i see an Over looming. cmon Dal

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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 4:23 PM ET #35

    I'm losses for. Woardsz
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 4:28 PM ET #36

    The best thing that came out of the Cowboys win? Their flaws in special team and communication issue between room and federick. They are coming home so no need to rely on the silent count. They'll work extra reps on special teams. I see a Cowboys cover and under the total.
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    The best thing that came out of the Cowboys win? Their flaws in special team and communication issue between room and federick. They are coming home so no need to rely on the silent count. They'll work extra reps on special teams. I see a Cowboys cover and under the total.
     
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    And what I wanted to point out is, they didn't dominate in every facet of the game, e.t. special teams (except bailey), def, and offense. No complacency = more reps and focused on what they need to do to play better.
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    And what I wanted to point out is, they didn't dominate in every facet of the game, e.t. special teams (except bailey), def, and offense. No complacency = more reps and focused on what they need to do to play better.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 4:33 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:


    Yeh, ill agree with 2 team here. Only team more consistent than the cowboys this year has been the chargers. I still think the giants aren't as bad as they showed on sunday, but you never know what you're gonna get because coughlin doesn't motivate this team. This teams motivated by the new york media, not the coach, certainly not the qb, and i see leadership voids all over the place with this team. They didn't even bother showing up to play philly, it was embarassing, no way should connor barwin dominate an o line the way he dominated the giants one, hes not that good. 
    I agree that nyg arent as bad as they seem to be... #1 to remember in nfl betting, in my opinion, no team is as bad as they were last week and not team is as good as they were last week.. the parity in this league is crazy..

    The biggest motivational edge the cowboys have, in my opinion,  is that this is their first divisional game and they need to keep pace with philly eho has 2 division win already
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    Yeh, ill agree with 2 team here. Only team more consistent than the cowboys this year has been the chargers. I still think the giants aren't as bad as they showed on sunday, but you never know what you're gonna get because coughlin doesn't motivate this team. This teams motivated by the new york media, not the coach, certainly not the qb, and i see leadership voids all over the place with this team. They didn't even bother showing up to play philly, it was embarassing, no way should connor barwin dominate an o line the way he dominated the giants one, hes not that good. 
    I agree that nyg arent as bad as they seem to be... #1 to remember in nfl betting, in my opinion, no team is as bad as they were last week and not team is as good as they were last week.. the parity in this league is crazy..

    The biggest motivational edge the cowboys have, in my opinion,  is that this is their first divisional game and they need to keep pace with philly eho has 2 division win already
     
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    *cough* jets *cough*
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Team_Parlay:

    I agree that nyg arent as bad as they seem to be... #1 to remember in nfl betting, in my opinion, no team is as bad as they were last week and not team is as good as they were last week.. the parity in this league is crazy..

    The biggest motivational edge the cowboys have, in my opinion,  is that this is their first divisional game and they need to keep pace with philly eho has 2 division win already

    My first read on your boys was right last week, i dunno why i changed my mind on that game, i guess i got to hearing all the upset chatter and it scared me off. Your team is the perfect cryptonite for seattle, a big physical offensive line and a defense that plays team ball not hero ball.  Say what you want about the dallas defense, they play as a team and kept their gaps the entire game not trying to make hero plays or go for their sacks. DISCIPLINED is the word i used, they are that. Getting rid of ware was the best thing thats ever happened to your team, as he was a hero ball player who never kept his gaps and always went for hero plays and thats why they were often gashed on the edge. Whoever your d coordinator is this year has done an UNBELIEVABLE job drilling team defense into this squads heads. 

    Here's a memo to the rest of the nfl on seattle. Don't go for sacks, stay in front of wilson at all times, keep your gaps , use his height against him. The only 3 teams ive seen do this the last 2 years were arizona, dallas, and san diego. The books out, but i doubt the rams defense is disciplined enough to do anything like this. Hawks will roll the undisciplined rams. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Team_Parlay:

    I agree that nyg arent as bad as they seem to be... #1 to remember in nfl betting, in my opinion, no team is as bad as they were last week and not team is as good as they were last week.. the parity in this league is crazy..

    The biggest motivational edge the cowboys have, in my opinion,  is that this is their first divisional game and they need to keep pace with philly eho has 2 division win already

    My first read on your boys was right last week, i dunno why i changed my mind on that game, i guess i got to hearing all the upset chatter and it scared me off. Your team is the perfect cryptonite for seattle, a big physical offensive line and a defense that plays team ball not hero ball.  Say what you want about the dallas defense, they play as a team and kept their gaps the entire game not trying to make hero plays or go for their sacks. DISCIPLINED is the word i used, they are that. Getting rid of ware was the best thing thats ever happened to your team, as he was a hero ball player who never kept his gaps and always went for hero plays and thats why they were often gashed on the edge. Whoever your d coordinator is this year has done an UNBELIEVABLE job drilling team defense into this squads heads. 

    Here's a memo to the rest of the nfl on seattle. Don't go for sacks, stay in front of wilson at all times, keep your gaps , use his height against him. The only 3 teams ive seen do this the last 2 years were arizona, dallas, and san diego. The books out, but i doubt the rams defense is disciplined enough to do anything like this. Hawks will roll the undisciplined rams. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:


    My first read on your boys was right last week, i dunno why i changed my mind on that game, i guess i got to hearing all the upset chatter and it scared me off. Your team is the perfect cryptonite for seattle, a big physical offensive line and a defense that plays team ball not hero ball.  Say what you want about the dallas defense, they play as a team and kept their gaps the entire game not trying to make hero plays or go for their sacks. DISCIPLINED is the word i used, they are that. Getting rid of ware was the best thing thats ever happened to your team, as he was a hero ball player who never kept his gaps and always went for hero plays and thats why they were often gashed on the edge. Whoever your d coordinator is this year has done an UNBELIEVABLE job drilling team defense into this squads heads. 

    Here's a memo to the rest of the nfl on seattle. Don't go for sacks, stay in front of wilson at all times, keep your gaps , use his height against him. The only 3 teams ive seen do this the last 2 years were arizona, dallas, and san diego. The books out, but i doubt the rams defense is disciplined enough to do anything like this. Hawks will roll the undisciplined rams. 
    that used to be my biggest mistake id come on here and let the chatter change my mind.... now I lock in my plays before I come on the site... u seem to be knowledgeable and u add to the discussion unlike 90% of the people on here 

    And the dallas D coordinator is Rod Marinelli.. and I agree he has done a great job of getting this no name defense to play as a unit..
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    My first read on your boys was right last week, i dunno why i changed my mind on that game, i guess i got to hearing all the upset chatter and it scared me off. Your team is the perfect cryptonite for seattle, a big physical offensive line and a defense that plays team ball not hero ball.  Say what you want about the dallas defense, they play as a team and kept their gaps the entire game not trying to make hero plays or go for their sacks. DISCIPLINED is the word i used, they are that. Getting rid of ware was the best thing thats ever happened to your team, as he was a hero ball player who never kept his gaps and always went for hero plays and thats why they were often gashed on the edge. Whoever your d coordinator is this year has done an UNBELIEVABLE job drilling team defense into this squads heads. 

    Here's a memo to the rest of the nfl on seattle. Don't go for sacks, stay in front of wilson at all times, keep your gaps , use his height against him. The only 3 teams ive seen do this the last 2 years were arizona, dallas, and san diego. The books out, but i doubt the rams defense is disciplined enough to do anything like this. Hawks will roll the undisciplined rams. 
    that used to be my biggest mistake id come on here and let the chatter change my mind.... now I lock in my plays before I come on the site... u seem to be knowledgeable and u add to the discussion unlike 90% of the people on here 

    And the dallas D coordinator is Rod Marinelli.. and I agree he has done a great job of getting this no name defense to play as a unit..
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 5:45 PM ET #42

    First off, for the people who are making comments about the Giants winning outright: just stop it already! There is no way an unbiased person who has seen both teams play all year could come to the conclusion that the Giants will win straight up.  You're letting your fandom rule your thought process. People like that should go to a generic  NFL forum and post there. Could the Giants win outright? Sure, but you could also go to Vegas and bet your paycheck on "3 red" in roulette, not the same odds but you get the point.

    I capped this game at Dallas -7.5 so if you want to "pound" the giants  at +5 then you're an idiot. If you want wait for the line to move then  pound the Giants at +7 then you should go to Vegas and pound "black" in roulette you fool. 

    The Giants aren't as bad as they looked last week, as others pointed out already, but they are only as good as have they looked this entire season which is a mediocre team. Same with Dallas; they aren't as awesome as they looked last week but they are as good as they have looked this entire season which is a contender on the rise with the most winning forumla in the history of pro football: elite Oline and a defense that gets a few timely turnovers. 
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    First off, for the people who are making comments about the Giants winning outright: just stop it already! There is no way an unbiased person who has seen both teams play all year could come to the conclusion that the Giants will win straight up.  You're letting your fandom rule your thought process. People like that should go to a generic  NFL forum and post there. Could the Giants win outright? Sure, but you could also go to Vegas and bet your paycheck on "3 red" in roulette, not the same odds but you get the point.

    I capped this game at Dallas -7.5 so if you want to "pound" the giants  at +5 then you're an idiot. If you want wait for the line to move then  pound the Giants at +7 then you should go to Vegas and pound "black" in roulette you fool. 

    The Giants aren't as bad as they looked last week, as others pointed out already, but they are only as good as have they looked this entire season which is a mediocre team. Same with Dallas; they aren't as awesome as they looked last week but they are as good as they have looked this entire season which is a contender on the rise with the most winning forumla in the history of pro football: elite Oline and a defense that gets a few timely turnovers. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 5:50 PM ET #43

    The giants D is giving up 116 yds a game. Now there playing a dominant O line that's committed to toting the mail. The success of the D is in part because of the O controlling the clock and keeping them fresh. The Giants will not be as flat in this game but the run and play action will wear them down producing another Cowboy victory....... 31-17
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    The giants D is giving up 116 yds a game. Now there playing a dominant O line that's committed to toting the mail. The success of the D is in part because of the O controlling the clock and keeping them fresh. The Giants will not be as flat in this game but the run and play action will wear them down producing another Cowboy victory....... 31-17
     
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    Posted: Oct. 14, 2014 - 6:25 PM ET #44

    112 pts in 2 games last year, 50 aint out of reach id say
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    112 pts in 2 games last year, 50 aint out of reach id say
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 1:07 AM ET #45

    Calm down ,, its too early,, lets wait for Dal $$ first... 
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    Calm down ,, its too early,, lets wait for Dal $$ first... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 1:08 AM ET #46

    Im waiting for them to show the cowboys over and over again with Dez Bryant highlights... 
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    Im waiting for them to show the cowboys over and over again with Dez Bryant highlights... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 3:14 AM ET #47

    The Cowboys return home from Seattle as conquering heroes and the crowd will be wild.  Maybe the most fun home game of the year for Dallas fans.

    I am well aware of the classic trap aspects and Dallas being a poor fave over 3 points historically. 

    But I see this as the Boys beating up on a team that has given them troubles over the years just like they did with New Orleans.  It's like those old Charles Atlas ads in 1970s comic books.  I expect the Giants (who already looked dazed on the road on SNF) to depart Texas shellshocked. 

    The Giants fan base will presumably keep the line from going over 10 by gametime.

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    The Cowboys return home from Seattle as conquering heroes and the crowd will be wild.  Maybe the most fun home game of the year for Dallas fans.

    I am well aware of the classic trap aspects and Dallas being a poor fave over 3 points historically. 

    But I see this as the Boys beating up on a team that has given them troubles over the years just like they did with New Orleans.  It's like those old Charles Atlas ads in 1970s comic books.  I expect the Giants (who already looked dazed on the road on SNF) to depart Texas shellshocked. 

    The Giants fan base will presumably keep the line from going over 10 by gametime.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

    Giants   Im with you !!!
    You should have posted this in the baseball forum. You would have won.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavinnick:

    Giants   Im with you !!!
    You should have posted this in the baseball forum. You would have won.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2014 - 10:19 PM ET #50

    great spot for giants, terrible spot for cowboys 

    BUT 

    nyg was missing rashad jennings, who was the catalyst in their 3 game winning streak. without him the eagles simply stacked the box and dared eli to throw. he couldn't do it. he probably won't play again this weekend. 

    cruz historically puts up great numbers vs the cowboys, what will the giants do without him? 

    without jennings and cruz the offense looked putrid, they could barely get a first down against the eagles, let alone any points. how many people kept backing the giants in their 0-6 start last year?  giants looked a lot more like that team and the team that was 0-2 this season without cruz and jennings. they won't be playing again this weekend. hard for me to expect anything different 

    probably stay away for me. 


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    great spot for giants, terrible spot for cowboys 

    BUT 

    nyg was missing rashad jennings, who was the catalyst in their 3 game winning streak. without him the eagles simply stacked the box and dared eli to throw. he couldn't do it. he probably won't play again this weekend. 

    cruz historically puts up great numbers vs the cowboys, what will the giants do without him? 

    without jennings and cruz the offense looked putrid, they could barely get a first down against the eagles, let alone any points. how many people kept backing the giants in their 0-6 start last year?  giants looked a lot more like that team and the team that was 0-2 this season without cruz and jennings. they won't be playing again this weekend. hard for me to expect anything different 

    probably stay away for me. 


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