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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 10:17 PM ET #76

    So Scalabrine. Your post #67 is what you think would happen if a white quarterback raised his fist and said white power. That makes no sense at all. What I think would happen if a white quarterback raised his fist and said white power. I think all hell would break loose. But that's just me. Anyway, Cam Newton is a jack off and he proved it again today with another idiotic press conference. Oh well, to each its own. GL to you Scal. Thank you for keeping the conversation at a mature level. There are some young wannabes on this website who like to holler, cuss, and make them sound tough. GL Scal.
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    So Scalabrine. Your post #67 is what you think would happen if a white quarterback raised his fist and said white power. That makes no sense at all. What I think would happen if a white quarterback raised his fist and said white power. I think all hell would break loose. But that's just me. Anyway, Cam Newton is a jack off and he proved it again today with another idiotic press conference. Oh well, to each its own. GL to you Scal. Thank you for keeping the conversation at a mature level. There are some young wannabes on this website who like to holler, cuss, and make them sound tough. GL Scal.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 4, 2017 - 10:27 PM ET #77

    Also Scal. Yes I know I am of white Caucasian. I was just giving a little background on myself. Yes, I'm Caucasian with a Spanish nationality. I'm not some 100%white dude from Texas who rides a horse and Carries a Gun. Well, I actually live in Houston. So I do ride a horse occasionally and do carry a gun with my permit. LoL. Good luck to you Scal.
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    Also Scal. Yes I know I am of white Caucasian. I was just giving a little background on myself. Yes, I'm Caucasian with a Spanish nationality. I'm not some 100%white dude from Texas who rides a horse and Carries a Gun. Well, I actually live in Houston. So I do ride a horse occasionally and do carry a gun with my permit. LoL. Good luck to you Scal.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 6:37 AM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    I notice you never mentioned anything about if a white player had said anything about white power.According to what you just said,then doesn't the president have the  right to the same freedom of speech,nobody said the players have to agree with what he said,or even listen to him.
    You sir, are absolutely correct

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:

    I notice you never mentioned anything about if a white player had said anything about white power.According to what you just said,then doesn't the president have the  right to the same freedom of speech,nobody said the players have to agree with what he said,or even listen to him.
    You sir, are absolutely correct

     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 7:33 AM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaname484:

    C'mon black power and white nationalism no where near the same thing. Best to become educated. It would prevent you from making claims and asking these silly questions

    Most people here aren't educated, just ignorant Trump supporters
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaname484:

    C'mon black power and white nationalism no where near the same thing. Best to become educated. It would prevent you from making claims and asking these silly questions

    Most people here aren't educated, just ignorant Trump supporters
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 7:43 AM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:


    Most people here aren't educated, just ignorant Trump supporters

    Lets turn this topic over to females reporting on football, NFL needs Roseanne Barr on the sidelines..... 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravensfan2k3:


    Most people here aren't educated, just ignorant Trump supporters

    Lets turn this topic over to females reporting on football, NFL needs Roseanne Barr on the sidelines..... 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 10:16 AM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by keven vanlith:

    Racism is a many way street.Blacks are way more racist towards whites as the other way around anymore and they know they can get a pass on it. Hence Cam...Sherman the Bennett Bros. and so many more....they are  too numerous to mention.


    Are you fucking kidding me. So it was black people who killed of the Indians and then named sports teams after them. It was black people who built a economic super power off the backs of free labor from white people for 400 years. Then separate them and beat them for another 65-80 years.. my bad I never knew
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    Quote Originally Posted by keven vanlith:

    Racism is a many way street.Blacks are way more racist towards whites as the other way around anymore and they know they can get a pass on it. Hence Cam...Sherman the Bennett Bros. and so many more....they are  too numerous to mention.


    Are you fucking kidding me. So it was black people who killed of the Indians and then named sports teams after them. It was black people who built a economic super power off the backs of free labor from white people for 400 years. Then separate them and beat them for another 65-80 years.. my bad I never knew
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 11:01 AM ET #82

    I can't believe some of the things that are being said in this thread
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    I can't believe some of the things that are being said in this thread
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 11:43 AM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by mac39bps:

    I can't believe some of the things that are being said in this thread

    Exactly.... the amount of stupid in this thread is frightening. The system has failed so many of you. I'd wish you luck but it won't help you. You're already lost into the abyss of separation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mac39bps:

    I can't believe some of the things that are being said in this thread

    Exactly.... the amount of stupid in this thread is frightening. The system has failed so many of you. I'd wish you luck but it won't help you. You're already lost into the abyss of separation.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 11:57 AM ET #84

    Some of you guys are so ignorant to even compare the two as equal.

    Black power means "we have the black power to fight the 400 years of slavery and oppression put on black people today, we can overcome" black panthers and power we're created to defend the obvious 400 years of wrong doing of black people.

    "White power". Means continuance of white dominance over all races as has been proven in history with violence" simple as that.
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    Some of you guys are so ignorant to even compare the two as equal.

    Black power means "we have the black power to fight the 400 years of slavery and oppression put on black people today, we can overcome" black panthers and power we're created to defend the obvious 400 years of wrong doing of black people.

    "White power". Means continuance of white dominance over all races as has been proven in history with violence" simple as that.
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 12:08 PM ET #85

    The majority of positions of "power" are held by white people in this country. Saying white power would only be stating the obvious
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    The majority of positions of "power" are held by white people in this country. Saying white power would only be stating the obvious
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 12:39 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    It's really not that funny.

    It's simply that you are a white male who feels aggrieved whenever the terms black and white are used. And this is very common among middle-aged white males who feel 'attacked' because well, the word white has never been used in the terms its being used today.

    Black Power typically refers to the empowerment and advancement of the race itself through rectifying disparities of economic, educational, and a societal nature.

    These definitions are fluid of course so you could always claim plausible deniability to suit your cause (which you will, because you created such a thread).

    White Power has been grown to be seen as hateful of other races. Why is that? Because Nazis and skinheads absolutely love the term and use it to mean exactly that.

    So what's funny?

    Or do you reject those two definitions? Because that will probably be the case no matter what anyone tells you.

    Have a good day.
    Just watched Do The Right Thing the other day., and what comes to my mind is not much has changed since 89.
    Why can't we eat pizza, raise our families, and run our businesses, and work at our jobs, and not let racism colonize our minds with suspicion?
    Just getting worst in my opinion!
    NO WATCHING FOOTBALL FOR ME!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    It's really not that funny.

    It's simply that you are a white male who feels aggrieved whenever the terms black and white are used. And this is very common among middle-aged white males who feel 'attacked' because well, the word white has never been used in the terms its being used today.

    Black Power typically refers to the empowerment and advancement of the race itself through rectifying disparities of economic, educational, and a societal nature.

    These definitions are fluid of course so you could always claim plausible deniability to suit your cause (which you will, because you created such a thread).

    White Power has been grown to be seen as hateful of other races. Why is that? Because Nazis and skinheads absolutely love the term and use it to mean exactly that.

    So what's funny?

    Or do you reject those two definitions? Because that will probably be the case no matter what anyone tells you.

    Have a good day.
    Just watched Do The Right Thing the other day., and what comes to my mind is not much has changed since 89.
    Why can't we eat pizza, raise our families, and run our businesses, and work at our jobs, and not let racism colonize our minds with suspicion?
    Just getting worst in my opinion!
    NO WATCHING FOOTBALL FOR ME!
     
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    What is the point here? Really and truly? We have a schmuck in office who is racist, sexist and who social profiles. You want to support that? Go right ahead. I feel sorry for you. Is the other side of the coin any better? Probably not brbcause the dems got nothing. They are on the sidelines like some of the leaches on this site with their puds in their hands still wondering how they lost the election. A thread gets started about cam Newton of all people. Scam Newton and we are gonna dissect this till the cows come home. Cam Newton is a fake, he's lazy and he lives in a fantasy world where the only word in his vocabulary is "I". I'm sure cam grew up with some of the sane hardships many black kids do today but he's out of touch with reality. How could he be in touch? Come on. What matters here is this: until a white male walks the streets of the inner city at dusk in a rough neighborhood where they are the minority, that white male will never know the true realities of what life is like trying to survive. This bullsh@t where the media OVERPLAYS the race issue in America is comical. Our country is all about race and it's nasty. Again, come down to Chicago and I will take you to parts where I've taught. You can see it yourself. It will never happen though because rather than understand that the "black power" idea modern times is real and it comes from some hard working black families that get the shaft because nobody in our govt gives a damn about them, those same sheltered individuals will say it's coming from those who have their hands out. Republicans.....Race is everything nowadays and nobody in there right mind other than the a$$hole in our presidency would scream white power because it goes without saying. It doesn't need to be said. I'm a white male, an educator, a father of two. I walk into a CPS school and then I walk into my sons school. Light years difference. Resources vs no resources. Social profiling vs entitlement. Govt support vs no govt support. So again, even though cam shouldn't be talking about black power because he's a fake and only cares about himself, when I hear it, if those same words are coming from someone who is actively advocating for their rights and privileges in a productive manor, I respect it and have no problem. Some on here say if a white qb yelled white power it would be an issue. No garbage! Do we need a history lesson! Fact is: this is a white world and in all honesty, I'm ashamed of our country and how divided it is lately. It makes me sick. The true hypocrisy here is starting a thread talking about why race is such an issue yet having a problem with someone of color basically saying black power. It clearly tells that there is an issue within those about race. The idea of black power scares those who are uneducated of the realities that exist in this country; those same people live in their bubbles and get all huffy because supposedly other races and ethnicities aren't "allowed" the same freedoms to speak up. Bs. Anybody can say anything nowadays. Get over it. 
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    What is the point here? Really and truly? We have a schmuck in office who is racist, sexist and who social profiles. You want to support that? Go right ahead. I feel sorry for you. Is the other side of the coin any better? Probably not brbcause the dems got nothing. They are on the sidelines like some of the leaches on this site with their puds in their hands still wondering how they lost the election. A thread gets started about cam Newton of all people. Scam Newton and we are gonna dissect this till the cows come home. Cam Newton is a fake, he's lazy and he lives in a fantasy world where the only word in his vocabulary is "I". I'm sure cam grew up with some of the sane hardships many black kids do today but he's out of touch with reality. How could he be in touch? Come on. What matters here is this: until a white male walks the streets of the inner city at dusk in a rough neighborhood where they are the minority, that white male will never know the true realities of what life is like trying to survive. This bullsh@t where the media OVERPLAYS the race issue in America is comical. Our country is all about race and it's nasty. Again, come down to Chicago and I will take you to parts where I've taught. You can see it yourself. It will never happen though because rather than understand that the "black power" idea modern times is real and it comes from some hard working black families that get the shaft because nobody in our govt gives a damn about them, those same sheltered individuals will say it's coming from those who have their hands out. Republicans.....Race is everything nowadays and nobody in there right mind other than the a$$hole in our presidency would scream white power because it goes without saying. It doesn't need to be said. I'm a white male, an educator, a father of two. I walk into a CPS school and then I walk into my sons school. Light years difference. Resources vs no resources. Social profiling vs entitlement. Govt support vs no govt support. So again, even though cam shouldn't be talking about black power because he's a fake and only cares about himself, when I hear it, if those same words are coming from someone who is actively advocating for their rights and privileges in a productive manor, I respect it and have no problem. Some on here say if a white qb yelled white power it would be an issue. No garbage! Do we need a history lesson! Fact is: this is a white world and in all honesty, I'm ashamed of our country and how divided it is lately. It makes me sick. The true hypocrisy here is starting a thread talking about why race is such an issue yet having a problem with someone of color basically saying black power. It clearly tells that there is an issue within those about race. The idea of black power scares those who are uneducated of the realities that exist in this country; those same people live in their bubbles and get all huffy because supposedly other races and ethnicities aren't "allowed" the same freedoms to speak up. Bs. Anybody can say anything nowadays. Get over it. 
     
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    Posted: Oct. 5, 2017 - 2:00 PM ET #88

    Nice write up a Achilles1629. Thanks for keeping on a mature level also. You get it, I get it. But there are some who don't. Thanks for keeping it tight.GL to you dude!
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    Nice write up a Achilles1629. Thanks for keeping on a mature level also. You get it, I get it. But there are some who don't. Thanks for keeping it tight.GL to you dude!
     
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    What is the point here? Really and truly? We have a schmuck in office who is racist, sexist and who social profiles. You want to support that? Go right ahead. I feel sorry for you. Is the other side of the coin any better? Probably not brbcause the dems got nothing. They are on the sidelines like some of the leaches on this site with their puds in their hands still wondering how they lost the election. A thread gets started about cam Newton of all people. Scam Newton and we are gonna dissect this till the cows come home. Cam Newton is a fake, he's lazy and he lives in a fantasy world where the only word in his vocabulary is "I". I'm sure cam grew up with some of the sane hardships many black kids do today but he's out of touch with reality. How could he be in touch? Come on. What matters here is this: until a white male walks the streets of the inner city at dusk in a rough neighborhood where they are the minority, that white male will never know the true realities of what life is like trying to survive. This bullsh@t where the media OVERPLAYS the race issue in America is comical. Our country is all about race and it's nasty. Again, come down to Chicago and I will take you to parts where I've taught. You can see it yourself. It will never happen though because rather than understand that the "black power" idea modern times is real and it comes from some hard working black families that get the shaft because nobody in our govt gives a damn about them, those same sheltered individuals will say it's coming from those who have their hands out. Republicans.....Race is everything nowadays and nobody in there right mind other than the a$$hole in our presidency would scream white power because it goes without saying. It doesn't need to be said. I'm a white male, an educator, a father of two. I walk into a CPS school and then I walk into my sons school. Light years difference. Resources vs no resources. Social profiling vs entitlement. Govt support vs no govt support. So again, even though cam shouldn't be talking about black power because he's a fake and only cares about himself, when I hear it, if those same words are coming from someone who is actively advocating for their rights and privileges in a productive manor, I respect it and have no problem. Some on here say if a white qb yelled white power it would be an issue. No garbage! Do we need a history lesson! Fact is: this is a white world and in all honesty, I'm ashamed of our country and how divided it is lately. It makes me sick. The true hypocrisy here is starting a thread talking about why race is such an issue yet having a problem with someone of color basically saying black power. It clearly tells that there is an issue within those about race. The idea of black power scares those who are uneducated of the realities that exist in this country; those same people live in their bubbles and get all huffy because supposedly other races and ethnicities aren't "allowed" the same freedoms to speak up. Bs. Anybody can say anything nowadays. Get over it. 


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    What is the point here? Really and truly? We have a schmuck in office who is racist, sexist and who social profiles. You want to support that? Go right ahead. I feel sorry for you. Is the other side of the coin any better? Probably not brbcause the dems got nothing. They are on the sidelines like some of the leaches on this site with their puds in their hands still wondering how they lost the election. A thread gets started about cam Newton of all people. Scam Newton and we are gonna dissect this till the cows come home. Cam Newton is a fake, he's lazy and he lives in a fantasy world where the only word in his vocabulary is "I". I'm sure cam grew up with some of the sane hardships many black kids do today but he's out of touch with reality. How could he be in touch? Come on. What matters here is this: until a white male walks the streets of the inner city at dusk in a rough neighborhood where they are the minority, that white male will never know the true realities of what life is like trying to survive. This bullsh@t where the media OVERPLAYS the race issue in America is comical. Our country is all about race and it's nasty. Again, come down to Chicago and I will take you to parts where I've taught. You can see it yourself. It will never happen though because rather than understand that the "black power" idea modern times is real and it comes from some hard working black families that get the shaft because nobody in our govt gives a damn about them, those same sheltered individuals will say it's coming from those who have their hands out. Republicans.....Race is everything nowadays and nobody in there right mind other than the a$$hole in our presidency would scream white power because it goes without saying. It doesn't need to be said. I'm a white male, an educator, a father of two. I walk into a CPS school and then I walk into my sons school. Light years difference. Resources vs no resources. Social profiling vs entitlement. Govt support vs no govt support. So again, even though cam shouldn't be talking about black power because he's a fake and only cares about himself, when I hear it, if those same words are coming from someone who is actively advocating for their rights and privileges in a productive manor, I respect it and have no problem. Some on here say if a white qb yelled white power it would be an issue. No garbage! Do we need a history lesson! Fact is: this is a white world and in all honesty, I'm ashamed of our country and how divided it is lately. It makes me sick. The true hypocrisy here is starting a thread talking about why race is such an issue yet having a problem with someone of color basically saying black power. It clearly tells that there is an issue within those about race. The idea of black power scares those who are uneducated of the realities that exist in this country; those same people live in their bubbles and get all huffy because supposedly other races and ethnicities aren't "allowed" the same freedoms to speak up. Bs. Anybody can say anything nowadays. Get over it. 


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      until a white male walks the streets of the inner city at dusk in a rough neighborhood where they are the minority,
    This goes for any neighborhood in any inner city,be it white, black or brown or yellow,anywhere where its a poor neighborhood.Their not walking the streets where they are the minority,its their neighborhood.You cant blame no one but themselfes for their neighborhoods being a shooting zone,ive seen plenty of block clubs on 1 or 2 specific streets,that the residents patrol on their own to keep out the gangbangers,and they are all well maintained and very nice,the people that live there give a garbage about where they live,and it shows.If someone commits a crime on those streets,they turn them in to the police,so that person wont commit anymore crimes in their neighborhood.i drove a truck in chicago for 20 years.Ive delivered to all the grade schools in the city,some of the most behaved kids ive ever seen,were on the southeast side,in a very rough neighborhood,but their parents cared enough to send their kids to a catholic school,and to make sure their kids behaved,and that they gave a garbage about themselves and their neighborhood.Im not saying its easy to get out of there,if your born there,but you can do it,but you aint gonna do it by dropping out of school,and hanging out at the corner.Many of nationalities have gotten out of the inner cities before the residents that live there now.

    This goes for all colors of people,if your not wealthy or didn't get a good education and a good job,dont have kids that you cant afford to give a good life.Dont have kids 6 kids with every girl that comes around,if you aint gonna support and spend time with them.That is nobodys fault but their own.I know some people are gonna say im an a-hole,but the truth is,nobody is gonna get you out of there,or any bad situation you are in,but YOURSELF,you cant blame anybody but YOURSELF for the way your life turns out,there are people that come from different countries that don't even speak the language,that make a decent live for themselves here,so it can be done,but you have to work,to get that done,you aint gonna start off as the president of the company,you have to WORK your way up.

    You talk about the government not caring for those kids as much as they do about your 2 kids,the gov don't give 2 shits about your kids,your kids aint in the good predicament they are in,because of the government,they are in a good situation,because YOU GIVE a garbage about them,they are in a good situation,because you don't have 5 other kids from 4 other moms,that are taking your money for child support.Your kids are in a decent situation,cause you worked your a*s off and went to school and became a teacher.I know to many people of different colors and backgrounds,that have made it out of the city and are very successful,and they did it just from doing the right thing,and working their a*ses off.And if you tell your students its always someone elses fault,and it cant be done,i really don't think your doing them any favors.Tell them a story about the man that looked like they do,and came from where they are coming from,and how he went to school and worked his a*s off,and became one of the best presidents,of my lifetime,tell them that story,dont tell them its always someone elses fault and to wait for the government to come and fix it.

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      until a white male walks the streets of the inner city at dusk in a rough neighborhood where they are the minority,
    This goes for any neighborhood in any inner city,be it white, black or brown or yellow,anywhere where its a poor neighborhood.Their not walking the streets where they are the minority,its their neighborhood.You cant blame no one but themselfes for their neighborhoods being a shooting zone,ive seen plenty of block clubs on 1 or 2 specific streets,that the residents patrol on their own to keep out the gangbangers,and they are all well maintained and very nice,the people that live there give a garbage about where they live,and it shows.If someone commits a crime on those streets,they turn them in to the police,so that person wont commit anymore crimes in their neighborhood.i drove a truck in chicago for 20 years.Ive delivered to all the grade schools in the city,some of the most behaved kids ive ever seen,were on the southeast side,in a very rough neighborhood,but their parents cared enough to send their kids to a catholic school,and to make sure their kids behaved,and that they gave a garbage about themselves and their neighborhood.Im not saying its easy to get out of there,if your born there,but you can do it,but you aint gonna do it by dropping out of school,and hanging out at the corner.Many of nationalities have gotten out of the inner cities before the residents that live there now.

    This goes for all colors of people,if your not wealthy or didn't get a good education and a good job,dont have kids that you cant afford to give a good life.Dont have kids 6 kids with every girl that comes around,if you aint gonna support and spend time with them.That is nobodys fault but their own.I know some people are gonna say im an a-hole,but the truth is,nobody is gonna get you out of there,or any bad situation you are in,but YOURSELF,you cant blame anybody but YOURSELF for the way your life turns out,there are people that come from different countries that don't even speak the language,that make a decent live for themselves here,so it can be done,but you have to work,to get that done,you aint gonna start off as the president of the company,you have to WORK your way up.

    You talk about the government not caring for those kids as much as they do about your 2 kids,the gov don't give 2 shits about your kids,your kids aint in the good predicament they are in,because of the government,they are in a good situation,because YOU GIVE a garbage about them,they are in a good situation,because you don't have 5 other kids from 4 other moms,that are taking your money for child support.Your kids are in a decent situation,cause you worked your a*s off and went to school and became a teacher.I know to many people of different colors and backgrounds,that have made it out of the city and are very successful,and they did it just from doing the right thing,and working their a*ses off.And if you tell your students its always someone elses fault,and it cant be done,i really don't think your doing them any favors.Tell them a story about the man that looked like they do,and came from where they are coming from,and how he went to school and worked his a*s off,and became one of the best presidents,of my lifetime,tell them that story,dont tell them its always someone elses fault and to wait for the government to come and fix it.

     
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    100% disagree with your statement about my kids being in a great situation because I GIVE them that. You may have delivered to inner city schools but have you sat at the table with Rahm and city officials after one of your athletes was gunned down a block from the school? Have you talked them as to why in high crime neighborhoods nothing gets done when really the city has endless resources to make change? Over 30 cop cars were sent that week to the unveiling of the new Daly center and ice rink. Want to know how many were sent to that block the next morning when over 600 kids were outside befure the bell rang? One buddy. One. Why do you think that is? Ever sit and dissect teacher evaluations at CPS schools? It's a joke. The curriculum sucks in Chicago city schools, the teachers don't care and excuses are made when students don't hit the mark. You are telling me though that because a kid goes to a bad school their parents don't care? Wrong. The govt tells hard working minorities where to stay and they make it damn near impossible for an inner city smart kid who is poor to prosper at a great school. Those schools cost lots of money and until our local govt starts caring more, it will stay that way. Charter schools are great but for every pod charter school, there are 10 lazy ones who just make their money and move the kids along. 

    As for turning in criminals in high crime neighborhoods, this is so far from the truth it's ridiculous. This tells me you haven't been in the city the last 10 years. You snitch, you die. It's that simple. Doing the right thing no longer helps you survive, it's shutting your mouth that does nowadays. 
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    100% disagree with your statement about my kids being in a great situation because I GIVE them that. You may have delivered to inner city schools but have you sat at the table with Rahm and city officials after one of your athletes was gunned down a block from the school? Have you talked them as to why in high crime neighborhoods nothing gets done when really the city has endless resources to make change? Over 30 cop cars were sent that week to the unveiling of the new Daly center and ice rink. Want to know how many were sent to that block the next morning when over 600 kids were outside befure the bell rang? One buddy. One. Why do you think that is? Ever sit and dissect teacher evaluations at CPS schools? It's a joke. The curriculum sucks in Chicago city schools, the teachers don't care and excuses are made when students don't hit the mark. You are telling me though that because a kid goes to a bad school their parents don't care? Wrong. The govt tells hard working minorities where to stay and they make it damn near impossible for an inner city smart kid who is poor to prosper at a great school. Those schools cost lots of money and until our local govt starts caring more, it will stay that way. Charter schools are great but for every pod charter school, there are 10 lazy ones who just make their money and move the kids along. 

    As for turning in criminals in high crime neighborhoods, this is so far from the truth it's ridiculous. This tells me you haven't been in the city the last 10 years. You snitch, you die. It's that simple. Doing the right thing no longer helps you survive, it's shutting your mouth that does nowadays. 
     
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    As for how I approach my students, do you think if I saw color as a Lin issue, I'd be working in an environment where I am the minority? I see what the families and their kids go through every day and I'd like to think that I'm a beacon of hope in letting those individuals know regardless of the obstacles put in front of them by our govt, success is still possible. Still tough with the schmuck in office and a fake as a mayor in Chicago, but possible.....
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    As for how I approach my students, do you think if I saw color as a Lin issue, I'd be working in an environment where I am the minority? I see what the families and their kids go through every day and I'd like to think that I'm a beacon of hope in letting those individuals know regardless of the obstacles put in front of them by our govt, success is still possible. Still tough with the schmuck in office and a fake as a mayor in Chicago, but possible.....
     
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    And once again, and still waiting for any answer on the matter....

    Its truly amazing all this slavery talk still from hundreds and hundreds of years ago, Black Power, BLM riots/protests....

    And yet, 2000 shooting in Chicago last year(and every year the last 10 years), and of those 2000 shooting 92% were African American shooting African Americans....thats 1840 every year!!!  

    And what is done or said about that?  NOTHING!!!   

    Why??

    Why is nothing said or done about that?  WHere are the riots and protests?  There are none...because it is accepted for some reason...because its isnt a race issue and white vs black....

    Its an absolute joke the hypocrisy of the how nothing is done or said when in just ONE city this happens....
     
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    And once again, and still waiting for any answer on the matter....

    Its truly amazing all this slavery talk still from hundreds and hundreds of years ago, Black Power, BLM riots/protests....

    And yet, 2000 shooting in Chicago last year(and every year the last 10 years), and of those 2000 shooting 92% were African American shooting African Americans....thats 1840 every year!!!  

    And what is done or said about that?  NOTHING!!!   

    Why??

    Why is nothing said or done about that?  WHere are the riots and protests?  There are none...because it is accepted for some reason...because its isnt a race issue and white vs black....

    Its an absolute joke the hypocrisy of the how nothing is done or said when in just ONE city this happens....
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    And once again, and still waiting for any answer on the matter....

    Its truly amazing all this slavery talk still from hundreds and hundreds of years ago, Black Power, BLM riots/protests....

    And yet, 2000 shooting in Chicago last year(and every year the last 10 years), and of those 2000 shooting 92% were African American shooting African Americans....thats 1840 every year!!!  

    And what is done or said about that?  NOTHING!!!   

    Why??

    Why is nothing said or done about that?  WHere are the riots and protests?  There are none...because it is accepted for some reason...because its isnt a race issue and white vs black....

    Its an absolute joke the hypocrisy of the how nothing is done or said when in just ONE city this happens....
     

    Yes. I'm also sick and tired of this "legacy" blame game. Stop it. We are all equal in this day and age. Poor black people continue to use the slavery legacy as a crutch as to why they can't get ahead in life -- in addition to making babies out of wedlock to thugs and jailed fathers. Just stop it with all these BLM bullshit. The only valid argument BLM has is the school ~ thing. And there have been lots of progress towards better education for inner city zones with majority Arfrican-American population. 

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    And once again, and still waiting for any answer on the matter....

    Its truly amazing all this slavery talk still from hundreds and hundreds of years ago, Black Power, BLM riots/protests....

    And yet, 2000 shooting in Chicago last year(and every year the last 10 years), and of those 2000 shooting 92% were African American shooting African Americans....thats 1840 every year!!!  

    And what is done or said about that?  NOTHING!!!   

    Why??

    Why is nothing said or done about that?  WHere are the riots and protests?  There are none...because it is accepted for some reason...because its isnt a race issue and white vs black....

    Its an absolute joke the hypocrisy of the how nothing is done or said when in just ONE city this happens....
     

    Yes. I'm also sick and tired of this "legacy" blame game. Stop it. We are all equal in this day and age. Poor black people continue to use the slavery legacy as a crutch as to why they can't get ahead in life -- in addition to making babies out of wedlock to thugs and jailed fathers. Just stop it with all these BLM bullshit. The only valid argument BLM has is the school ~ thing. And there have been lots of progress towards better education for inner city zones with majority Arfrican-American population. 

    Cam Newton = retard. Yes, raising your hands and claiming black power is racist. It is not a 1-way street. Check your privilege before you act, Cam.
     
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    Oh yeah, this happens in just ONE city. U serious? You choose to focus on black on black crime and that's convenient for trump supporters and those who just don't give a sh@t about the human race. It's just not a white mans problem huh? Is that the thought? I mean isn't that what this is all about brotha? You ever ask yourself why some of these crimes happen man. Or is it in your mind that black people just hate black people? What's the cause of all of this? You choose to believe that all the crime you speak of is towards gang bangers and bad people? Ya know a vast majority of those people are innocent blacks people who are in the wrong place at the wrong time. You knew that though? Well maybe not because your statement above ONCE AGAIN tells me that an individual who has no idea of the environment, the resources and the challenges that face those individuals just flat out believes it's something that happens in ONE city. Have you lived under a rick for the last 5 years or so? Spend a day from dusk til dawn on a summer day in Chicago in a bad neighborhood. White, black whatever you'd sh@t your pants. Stay inside with your kids and listen to the bullets fly and the see the drugs get passed around....oh but wait because it's black on black crime....that must mean EVERYONE killed had it coming and that because they are black it's par the course cause it's Chicago. Human race bud not black and white. If this type of crap happened in the suburbs where resources were abundant and entitlement was the norm, IMAGINE what those people would do and how they would react. It's all about resources. If you have them, chances are you don't have too many problems. Pretty simple
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    Oh yeah, this happens in just ONE city. U serious? You choose to focus on black on black crime and that's convenient for trump supporters and those who just don't give a sh@t about the human race. It's just not a white mans problem huh? Is that the thought? I mean isn't that what this is all about brotha? You ever ask yourself why some of these crimes happen man. Or is it in your mind that black people just hate black people? What's the cause of all of this? You choose to believe that all the crime you speak of is towards gang bangers and bad people? Ya know a vast majority of those people are innocent blacks people who are in the wrong place at the wrong time. You knew that though? Well maybe not because your statement above ONCE AGAIN tells me that an individual who has no idea of the environment, the resources and the challenges that face those individuals just flat out believes it's something that happens in ONE city. Have you lived under a rick for the last 5 years or so? Spend a day from dusk til dawn on a summer day in Chicago in a bad neighborhood. White, black whatever you'd sh@t your pants. Stay inside with your kids and listen to the bullets fly and the see the drugs get passed around....oh but wait because it's black on black crime....that must mean EVERYONE killed had it coming and that because they are black it's par the course cause it's Chicago. Human race bud not black and white. If this type of crap happened in the suburbs where resources were abundant and entitlement was the norm, IMAGINE what those people would do and how they would react. It's all about resources. If you have them, chances are you don't have too many problems. Pretty simple
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    Oh yeah, this happens in just ONE city. U serious? You choose to focus on black on black crime and that's convenient for trump supporters and those who just don't give a sh@t about the human race. It's just not a white mans problem huh? Is that the thought? I mean isn't that what this is all about brotha? You ever ask yourself why some of these crimes happen man. Or is it in your mind that black people just hate black people? What's the cause of all of this? You choose to believe that all the crime you speak of is towards gang bangers and bad people? Ya know a vast majority of those people are innocent blacks people who are in the wrong place at the wrong time. You knew that though? Well maybe not because your statement above ONCE AGAIN tells me that an individual who has no idea of the environment, the resources and the challenges that face those individuals just flat out believes it's something that happens in ONE city. Have you lived under a rick for the last 5 years or so? Spend a day from dusk til dawn on a summer day in Chicago in a bad neighborhood. White, black whatever you'd sh@t your pants. Stay inside with your kids and listen to the bullets fly and the see the drugs get passed around....oh but wait because it's black on black crime....that must mean EVERYONE killed had it coming and that because they are black it's par the course cause it's Chicago. Human race bud not black and white. If this type of crap happened in the suburbs where resources were abundant and entitlement was the norm, IMAGINE what those people would do and how they would react. It's all about resources. If you have them, chances are you don't have too many problems. Pretty simple

    What are you even talking about?  That is the EXACT OPPOSITE thing I am talking about, and is EXACTLYT why I have a problem with the BLM riots and protests.....

    Lets say there are maybe 10,000 police/citizen interactions per day in the US....fair statement?  And obviously, any police shooting a citizen is a terrible act....but that happens once a week/month?  Maybe?  So maybe 99.999999% of the time nothing wrong occurs....but that 1 time a terrible officer, white shoots a African American....and the country is rioting and protesting.....

    ANd yet, every Monday morning on the news, 45 African American on African American shootings....and nothing is said/done?  Like you said, how many innocent?  Hundreds and hundreds...where is BLM for this?  WHere are the riots and protests for this?  They dont exist.....why?  


    I lived in the city for 15 years...I went to college in the city....Ive been in awful neighbors....Ive had guns pulled on me just walking down the streets....

    Why doesnt BLM and Black Power focus on bettering those awful actions in Chicago?  Why do they only focus on the white vs black?  Where are the marches and shutting down Lake Shore Drive or highways for this?  
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    Oh yeah, this happens in just ONE city. U serious? You choose to focus on black on black crime and that's convenient for trump supporters and those who just don't give a sh@t about the human race. It's just not a white mans problem huh? Is that the thought? I mean isn't that what this is all about brotha? You ever ask yourself why some of these crimes happen man. Or is it in your mind that black people just hate black people? What's the cause of all of this? You choose to believe that all the crime you speak of is towards gang bangers and bad people? Ya know a vast majority of those people are innocent blacks people who are in the wrong place at the wrong time. You knew that though? Well maybe not because your statement above ONCE AGAIN tells me that an individual who has no idea of the environment, the resources and the challenges that face those individuals just flat out believes it's something that happens in ONE city. Have you lived under a rick for the last 5 years or so? Spend a day from dusk til dawn on a summer day in Chicago in a bad neighborhood. White, black whatever you'd sh@t your pants. Stay inside with your kids and listen to the bullets fly and the see the drugs get passed around....oh but wait because it's black on black crime....that must mean EVERYONE killed had it coming and that because they are black it's par the course cause it's Chicago. Human race bud not black and white. If this type of crap happened in the suburbs where resources were abundant and entitlement was the norm, IMAGINE what those people would do and how they would react. It's all about resources. If you have them, chances are you don't have too many problems. Pretty simple

    What are you even talking about?  That is the EXACT OPPOSITE thing I am talking about, and is EXACTLYT why I have a problem with the BLM riots and protests.....

    Lets say there are maybe 10,000 police/citizen interactions per day in the US....fair statement?  And obviously, any police shooting a citizen is a terrible act....but that happens once a week/month?  Maybe?  So maybe 99.999999% of the time nothing wrong occurs....but that 1 time a terrible officer, white shoots a African American....and the country is rioting and protesting.....

    ANd yet, every Monday morning on the news, 45 African American on African American shootings....and nothing is said/done?  Like you said, how many innocent?  Hundreds and hundreds...where is BLM for this?  WHere are the riots and protests for this?  They dont exist.....why?  


    I lived in the city for 15 years...I went to college in the city....Ive been in awful neighbors....Ive had guns pulled on me just walking down the streets....

    Why doesnt BLM and Black Power focus on bettering those awful actions in Chicago?  Why do they only focus on the white vs black?  Where are the marches and shutting down Lake Shore Drive or highways for this?  
     
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    I hear ya and I never said I agreed with the idea of the black power idea. It's a joke. I do know individuals who speak of it but their actions are for all, not just blacks. These individuals although seeking blacks to be empowered, state that its about the human race rather than just the black race. They want to empower their race to promote positivity and change within everyon to become one. Yes, there are blabkmoeople out there like this....Not many whites want to hear that though and I'm a white guy saying this. Now, do most black people that yell black power have this idea that its blacks against white? Of course but just because somebody says it, we can't assume always that it's strictly to divide the two races. When someone like cam does it with all that he puts out there, it's a lazy, weak attempt to say " he is doing his part". It's bs. All I can say is that BLM and Black Power in my eyes is a hypocrisy in itself that cancels out any attempt for so called equality but again we can't ignore those who actually want change and seek it for all races. What if a white man yelled BLM or black pose? I'd love to see how the media and our twitter/Facebook society would take it. It would be just as interesting as a sexist, racist president profiling people every single day because he can. 
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    I hear ya and I never said I agreed with the idea of the black power idea. It's a joke. I do know individuals who speak of it but their actions are for all, not just blacks. These individuals although seeking blacks to be empowered, state that its about the human race rather than just the black race. They want to empower their race to promote positivity and change within everyon to become one. Yes, there are blabkmoeople out there like this....Not many whites want to hear that though and I'm a white guy saying this. Now, do most black people that yell black power have this idea that its blacks against white? Of course but just because somebody says it, we can't assume always that it's strictly to divide the two races. When someone like cam does it with all that he puts out there, it's a lazy, weak attempt to say " he is doing his part". It's bs. All I can say is that BLM and Black Power in my eyes is a hypocrisy in itself that cancels out any attempt for so called equality but again we can't ignore those who actually want change and seek it for all races. What if a white man yelled BLM or black pose? I'd love to see how the media and our twitter/Facebook society would take it. It would be just as interesting as a sexist, racist president profiling people every single day because he can. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by a1_tellem:

    Some of you guys are so ignorant to even compare the two as equal.

    Black power means "we have the black power to fight the 400 years of slavery and oppression put on black people today, we can overcome" black panthers and power we're created to defend the obvious 400 years of wrong doing of black people.

    "White power". Means continuance of white dominance over all races as has been proven in history with violence" simple as that.
    Beautiful post A1. As a black man, I want to thank you for your educated response 
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    Quote Originally Posted by a1_tellem:

    Some of you guys are so ignorant to even compare the two as equal.

    Black power means "we have the black power to fight the 400 years of slavery and oppression put on black people today, we can overcome" black panthers and power we're created to defend the obvious 400 years of wrong doing of black people.

    "White power". Means continuance of white dominance over all races as has been proven in history with violence" simple as that.
    Beautiful post A1. As a black man, I want to thank you for your educated response 
     
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    Ok Achilles let me give you a scenario,like I said before if you come from a poor neighborhood,it don't matter what color you are,so you can make the person in this story whatever nationality you want.But heres the scenario-Im a young kid growing up in a poor neighborhood,i live with my mother and  5 younger  brothers and sisters,i don't have a relathionship with my father,i never really have,i don't do good in school,i don't even try,and I really don't care,so basically I do as little as possible just to make it to the next grade.When I was going on about 13 years old,i started smoking weed and hanging out on the corner with my friends,im making my mother, who works her a*s off,miserable cause she is scared im gonna turn out like everybody else who has never got out of here,or she is worried im gonna get shot,cause the area and the people im hanging out with are all gangbangers,who carry around weapons.

    Now im 16 years old,ive chosen to quit school,even though my mother begged me not to,she thinks  she knows everything,but I know better.I have a child I don't even see or pay attention to,i got a court order saying I have to pay so much a month for child support,but I don't pay nothing,cause I refuse to work somewhere for minimum wage,like everybody else starts off at.Then in a couple years it just gets worse,i have 2 more kids that I have nothing to do with,but im still not working,so they cant take no money from me.

    Now remember this person could be any nationality or color, now who's fault is it if that is what a person CHOOSES to do with their life,would it be the gov, fault,or his parents fault,or maybe his fault.Cause there is a 1000 other people that were put through the exact same scenario and setting,and they made good in their life,but they didn't do it by quitting school and hanging out at the corner,those are choices that this person made,nobody else.Now we know how these stories turn out, cause we have lived and seen where taking those roads lead to.No one can make a person make the right decisions,the gov, cant,your parents really cant,they can encourage you and help you,but they cant MAKE someone do the right thing.Only the actual person can change his life,no one else.I know its hard to get out of those desperate situations,and a lot of times it seems like it cant be done,but if someone wants it bad enough,they could do it,hell people in those situations have become president.The sad part is  the kids of people like this,that are gonna grow up in the same circumstances,the cycle will keep repeating itself.People have to  start being responsible for their own actions,i don't have 5 kids,cause I cant afford 5 kids.

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    Ok Achilles let me give you a scenario,like I said before if you come from a poor neighborhood,it don't matter what color you are,so you can make the person in this story whatever nationality you want.But heres the scenario-Im a young kid growing up in a poor neighborhood,i live with my mother and  5 younger  brothers and sisters,i don't have a relathionship with my father,i never really have,i don't do good in school,i don't even try,and I really don't care,so basically I do as little as possible just to make it to the next grade.When I was going on about 13 years old,i started smoking weed and hanging out on the corner with my friends,im making my mother, who works her a*s off,miserable cause she is scared im gonna turn out like everybody else who has never got out of here,or she is worried im gonna get shot,cause the area and the people im hanging out with are all gangbangers,who carry around weapons.

    Now im 16 years old,ive chosen to quit school,even though my mother begged me not to,she thinks  she knows everything,but I know better.I have a child I don't even see or pay attention to,i got a court order saying I have to pay so much a month for child support,but I don't pay nothing,cause I refuse to work somewhere for minimum wage,like everybody else starts off at.Then in a couple years it just gets worse,i have 2 more kids that I have nothing to do with,but im still not working,so they cant take no money from me.

    Now remember this person could be any nationality or color, now who's fault is it if that is what a person CHOOSES to do with their life,would it be the gov, fault,or his parents fault,or maybe his fault.Cause there is a 1000 other people that were put through the exact same scenario and setting,and they made good in their life,but they didn't do it by quitting school and hanging out at the corner,those are choices that this person made,nobody else.Now we know how these stories turn out, cause we have lived and seen where taking those roads lead to.No one can make a person make the right decisions,the gov, cant,your parents really cant,they can encourage you and help you,but they cant MAKE someone do the right thing.Only the actual person can change his life,no one else.I know its hard to get out of those desperate situations,and a lot of times it seems like it cant be done,but if someone wants it bad enough,they could do it,hell people in those situations have become president.The sad part is  the kids of people like this,that are gonna grow up in the same circumstances,the cycle will keep repeating itself.People have to  start being responsible for their own actions,i don't have 5 kids,cause I cant afford 5 kids.

     
     
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    Hey TreyInventor. Answer my original question. Which is AGAIN. What do you think would happen if a white quarterback at his press conference raised his fist and said I do this to signify white power? Please answer. Do you think nothing would happen? Do you think it would be overlooked? Do you think a certain group of people would get upset? Do you think it would cause the gasoline prices to rise? What do you think would happen?
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    Hey TreyInventor. Answer my original question. Which is AGAIN. What do you think would happen if a white quarterback at his press conference raised his fist and said I do this to signify white power? Please answer. Do you think nothing would happen? Do you think it would be overlooked? Do you think a certain group of people would get upset? Do you think it would cause the gasoline prices to rise? What do you think would happen?
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