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He turned down a 5 year $175 million deal.

It would of made him the highest paid QB in NFL HISTORY. 

Not to mention that it would put a stranglehold on the rest of the Cowboys pay roll for the next 5 years, he says "naw, not good enough"

Who does this guy think he is?

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Posted: #2

He's not even worth the massive 5 year $175 million deal. Guy is average even when the deck is stacked. He must really want to wreck the cap to show just show how mediocre he really is lol. 

 
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There is a lot more to NFL contracts than years and total amount.  The most important number is amount guaranteed, and then the signing bonus, and then the years, and then the total amount.

 
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He wants north of 45 million a year. The current offer was 35 mill. 

Thorpe, I know there's other stuff involved in a contract. But being the highest paid QB in history is just that. 

He refused an offer last year from the Cowboys as well but I can't remember the offer. It was still a lot.

Crazy demands for a guy who went 0-5 vs 10 win teams last year, and 8-8 on the season.

 
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He looks about as bad as a QB can look. He turned down highest AAV (with russel for a QB) to play QB for the most significant team in football. It truly is shocking

 

and let’s be clear Russell Wilson, Dak Prescott is not... he is the definition of a tier 2 QB. A strong generally pro bowl level QB. But he cannot win inspite of deficiencies on a roster - and this albatross of a contract will lead to precisely that...

 

take the deal, make a gaggle of money both on and off the field and STFU

 

I bet Jerry Jones and/or cowboys leadership leaked this as they’re being held to the woodshed by Dak and his representation...

 

if I were the boys - offer phily next years first for jalen hurts... and make dak shiver just a bit. You’re not winning a SB with him regardless 

 

 
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Glad you mentioned Russell Wilson. In the last 3 years he leads the NFL in TD passes. Straight baller.

Back to the Cowboys. The signing of Andy Dalton might become the most important QB pick up of the off-season. If Dak gets hurt, or if the Boys tell him to piss off, they might not even miss a beat with the red riffle.

We'll see

 
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Reports are this is untrue.  He wants 45 million in that final year apparently. Some say he wants 4 year deal and cows want to sign him for longer.  Either way the report is apparently false. As for me who follows this team closely I say let him test the market.  Good luck getting this money anywhere else.  He is straight holding the cows hostage and it’s remarkable to me that athletes do that in this day and age and teams give in.  For once I would like to see a team straight cut a dude for doing this.  

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Quote Originally Posted by BIGDTITLE:

Reports are this is untrue.  He wants 45 million in that final year apparently. Some say he wants 4 year deal and cows want to sign him for longer.  Either way the report is apparently false. As for me who follows this team closely I say let him test the market.  Good luck getting this money anywhere else.  He is straight holding the cows hostage and it’s remarkable to me that athletes do that in this day and age and teams give in.  For once I would like to see a team straight cut a dude for doing this.

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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

Glad you mentioned Russell Wilson. In the last 3 years he leads the NFL in TD passes. Straight baller. Back to the Cowboys. The signing of Andy Dalton might become the most important QB pick up of the off-season. If Dak gets hurt, or if the Boys tell him to piss off, they might not even miss a beat with the red riffle. We'll see

 

with no line, marginally healthy receivers, injured running game.... that’s a tier 1 QB. Patrick, Russel, Lamar, Rodgers - that’s what remains of the Tier 1. Brees mayybee, Tommy mayybee

 

honestly, id rather have Kyler Murray next year (forget for the future because that’s obv) than Sak Prescott

 
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Dak ain't winning a Superbowl, period. It's a joke these days with the amount of dollars being thrown around. I'd say F**K OFF to him personally. 

Jerry should do it just to make a point, e's better off bringing Aitken back

 
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In my opinion he is the most overrated QB since the 80's....I'd rather just dump him and start Dalton 

 
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Andy Dalton won a lot of games on a very.............  below average Bungles team.The bright side of all of this if they sign Dak for  what he wants they will be in cap hell for years and starting a very average,over rated qb.

 
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 He couldn't have picked a worse time to snub a gift of a lifetime. So many people out there struggling just to make ends meet. Definitely not going to win any popularity contest. And there are at least 6 QB's that I would rather have to win me a game??

 
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As a Giants fan, I was saddened to hear Dak turned this down.  With this deal, Cowboys would be in Cap hell in a couple years, and the O-Line and Defense would not be able to retain the talent level they have now.

I think his days in Dallas may be numbered.  Red Rifle, at his Cap hit, would allow them to play in Free Agent Market to bolster Defense, and make them legit contenders, if they part with Dak.  Would not be surprised if they are shopping him on the Trade market right now.

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The Nerds of analytics could back Dak I suppose.

#1 in DYAR, #1 in YAR, #4 in QBR, #14 in comp% and #6 in DVOA.

But still that is just a sample size of one season. He hasn't come close to those #'s since his 2016 season. And how much $ are his accomplishments really worth?

Many have criticized Jason Garrett over the years and he is now gone. If the Cowboys offense bombs this year, will it be Dak's fault or McCarthy's?

This makes for an interesting situation on so many levels. McCarthy in Green Bay never needed help from free agents or trades. He built his roster through the draft, "homegrown" if you will. Perhaps Jerry understood this when offering Dak the deal(if true, I don't think the rumors spawned out of thin air). And Dak defies the plan.

Back to Russell Wilson for a second. He is undoubtedly better than Dak and a majority of the QB's in the NFL. He got the $ that he deserves. But look at what it did to the Seahawks spending capabilities since. They arguably had the worst o line next to the Jets and lacked talent in other key areas.

So it's just a thought...Jerry felt that he could pay Dak to lock up that position, and with the drafting prowess of McCarthy and his coaches, the Cowboys wouldn't be building with free agents/trades going forward.

And he offered the richest QB deal in history.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by mrusso:

He couldn't have picked a worse time to snub a gift of a lifetime. So many people out there struggling just to make ends meet. Definitely not going to win any popularity contest. And there are at least 6 QB's that I would rather have to win me a game??

And to think, it's still not a 100% guarantee that the NFL starts on time. They may play without fans. Preparation levels of every team will be minimal this year, you can bank on that. I think we could see some terrible football to begin the season imo. With so many questions, "snub a gift of a lifetime" is spot on.

 
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Only 6 QBs? If you watch Dak play - you put pressure on him and he is pedestrian...

 

thank his lucky stars he has a top line to protect him and a top 3 most dynamic RB in the game...

his stats are garbage time stats... just like matt ryan’s...

 
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

The Nerds of analytics could back Dak I suppose. #1 in DYAR, #1 in YAR, #4 in QBR, #14 in comp% and #6 in DVOA. But still that is just a sample size of one season. He hasn't come close to those #'s since his 2016 season. And how much $ are his accomplishments really worth? Many have criticized Jason Garrett over the years and he is now gone. If the Cowboys offense bombs this year, will it be Dak's fault or McCarthy's? This makes for an interesting situation on so many levels. McCarthy in Green Bay never needed help from free agents or trades. He built his roster through the draft, "homegrown" if you will. Perhaps Jerry understood this when offering Dak the deal(if true, I don't think the rumors spawned out of thin air). And Dak defies the plan. Back to Russell Wilson for a second. He is undoubtedly better than Dak and a majority of the QB's in the NFL. He got the $ that he deserves. But look at what it did to the Seahawks spending capabilities since. They arguably had the worst o line next to the Jets and lacked talent in other key areas. So it's just a thought...Jerry felt that he could pay Dak to lock up that position, and with the drafting prowess of McCarthy and his coaches, the Cowboys wouldn't be building with free agents/trades going forward. And he offered the richest QB deal in history.

 

comparing dak to russel is just silly... there are no comparisons... a comfortably tier 1 QB (5 QBs in this tier) vs. a marginally tier 2 QB (perhaps 7 or so QBs in this tier and they are all pro bowl level)

 

this isn’t to hate on Dak... he is a bottom tier 2 QB with glaring deficiencies but a ‘nice’ QB... but he didn’t accept 33M AAV (more than Goff or Wentz) or 35M this year - holding the Cowboys hostage and wanting to reset the QB market - simply WOW

 

 
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Dak Prescott vs top 15 defenses(per dvoa) in 2019. Now keep in mind that the Cowboys offense was ranked #2 overall offense per dvoa.

Record 2-8

21.8 ppg

63.7% comp

297.8 ypg

11 TD, 8 INT

88.58 QB rating. (100 is average)

In one of the two wins, vs the Rams the Cowboys scored 44 points. They had 45 rushes for 263 yards and 3 rushing TD's that game.

So the Cowboys only other wins were vs defenses 16 or worse per dvoa. They were 6-0 in those. I'll check the #'s later. Back to some post BBQ beers

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Dak is Whack! 

 
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I guess Dak plays defense also? I guess Dak also had a great Coach J.Garrett? The best play callers also...be honest folks Dak deserves to get paid every penny he’s asking for...I think some folks seem to forget....Prescott is second behind Tom Brady in victories (37)since the start of his career...T.Romo got paid twice..one time with a losing record...Pay the man!!

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Wizz_KIDD35:

I guess Dak plays defense also? I guess Dak also had a great Coach J.Garrett? The best play callers also...be honest folks Dak deserves to get paid every penny he’s asking for...I think some folks seem to forget....Prescott is second behind Tom Brady in victories (37)since the start of his career...T.Romo got paid twice..one time with a losing record...Pay the man!!

They tried paying him the best QB offer in history

 
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Wizz - you're missing the OP's point.  He got offered the largest contract ever, and turned it down.  He refused it, as if he is the "best" QB in the league.  He is not.  He is serviceable, but not in the category of excellence such as a Brady or Wilson or Rodgers.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by dyamarik:

Wizz - you're missing the OP's point.  He got offered the largest contract ever, and turned it down.  He refused it, as if he is the "best" QB in the league.  He is not.  He is serviceable, but not in the category of excellence such as a Brady or Wilson or Rodgers.

 

EXACTLY!! Well said.But as someone who dislikes the cowgirls(unless my hard earned money is on them)I hope Dak gets the massive contract he wants.Please pay the man Jerry

 
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

Quote Originally Posted by Wizz_KIDD35: I guess Dak plays defense also? I guess Dak also had a great Coach J.Garrett? The best play callers also...be honest folks Dak deserves to get paid every penny he’s asking for...I think some folks seem to forget....Prescott is second behind Tom Brady in victories (37)since the start of his career...T.Romo got paid twice..one time with a losing record...Pay the man!! They tried paying him the best QB offer in history
my understanding this is a false rumor of him turning down 175million.... I believe the Guaranteed money is what he is after... reports of all sorts is going on...I know July 15 is deadline so more than likely rumors will keep circulating until agreement is reached...or he will have to sign the 31.5million tag...I believe this deal will be done soon (Hopefully)!!

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