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    BREAKING NEWS IN PHILLY

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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:03 PM ET #1

    just saw it on comcast sports net and on ABC news....mike vick has been named starter for this week as well for rest of season....
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    just saw it on comcast sports net and on ABC news....mike vick has been named starter for this week as well for rest of season....
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:05 PM ET #2

    Eagles will whip up on the Jags this coming week
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    Eagles will whip up on the Jags this coming week
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:07 PM ET #3

    i believe soo too...as an eagles fan i kinda feel for kolb but with the O LINE we have, vick is our best shot to win right now...as a season ticket holder of the eagles this makes me a little bit more optimistic
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    i believe soo too...as an eagles fan i kinda feel for kolb but with the O LINE we have, vick is our best shot to win right now...as a season ticket holder of the eagles this makes me a little bit more optimistic
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:10 PM ET #4

    we'll see how vick looks once teams start game planning for him, catching green bay off guard and beating the lions doesnt impress me.  starting vick is like saying we $#@$% up letting mcnabb go. 
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    we'll see how vick looks once teams start game planning for him, catching green bay off guard and beating the lions doesnt impress me.  starting vick is like saying we $#@$% up letting mcnabb go. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:12 PM ET #5

    respectfully disagree...it was time for mcnabb to go you can say all you want about how he took the eagles here and there but he doesnt win the big game...and i do agree on the part of you saying teams can game plan for him now...but with kevin kolb out there with this o line we had no shot
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    respectfully disagree...it was time for mcnabb to go you can say all you want about how he took the eagles here and there but he doesnt win the big game...and i do agree on the part of you saying teams can game plan for him now...but with kevin kolb out there with this o line we had no shot
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:15 PM ET #6

    Kevin Kolb, with no disrespect, can never run the offense in Philly with the offensive line Philly has.
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    Kevin Kolb, with no disrespect, can never run the offense in Philly with the offensive line Philly has.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:17 PM ET #7

    my point is philly is going nowhere with either of them, i agree corn on the cob is not the answer
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    my point is philly is going nowhere with either of them, i agree corn on the cob is not the answer
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:17 PM ET #8

    Awesome for Vick.  He's finally made it all the way back.  Great story.
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    Awesome for Vick.  He's finally made it all the way back.  Great story.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:19 PM ET #9

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    vick
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:31 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by chizzy97:

    respectfully disagree...it was time for mcnabb to go you can say all you want about how he took the eagles here and there but he doesnt win the big game...and i do agree on the part of you saying teams can game plan for him now...but with kevin kolb out there with this o line we had no shot

    Well at least he TOOK you "here and there".  We'll see how you feel when you don't make the playoffs for the next 5 years.  Then you will want a QB that will take you "here and there". 
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    Quote Originally Posted by chizzy97:

    respectfully disagree...it was time for mcnabb to go you can say all you want about how he took the eagles here and there but he doesnt win the big game...and i do agree on the part of you saying teams can game plan for him now...but with kevin kolb out there with this o line we had no shot

    Well at least he TOOK you "here and there".  We'll see how you feel when you don't make the playoffs for the next 5 years.  Then you will want a QB that will take you "here and there". 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 6:36 PM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by CallMeBruce:


    Well at least he TOOK you "here and there".  We'll see how you feel when you don't make the playoffs for the next 5 years.  Then you will want a QB that will take you "here and there". 

    great point...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CallMeBruce:


    Well at least he TOOK you "here and there".  We'll see how you feel when you don't make the playoffs for the next 5 years.  Then you will want a QB that will take you "here and there". 

    great point...

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 7:05 PM ET #12

    https://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5601286
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    https://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=5601286
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 7:09 PM ET #13

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    Kevin Kolb, with no disrespect, can never run the offense in Philly with the offensive line Philly has.

    JASON PETERS IS THE MOST OVERRATED OT IN THE LEAGUE IN 20+ YEARS

    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    Kevin Kolb, with no disrespect, can never run the offense in Philly with the offensive line Philly has.

    JASON PETERS IS THE MOST OVERRATED OT IN THE LEAGUE IN 20+ YEARS

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 9:18 PM ET #14

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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 9:49 PM ET #15

    Jags +3 against Kolb was bet of the week material. No way I'm touching Jax now though. Vick too good.
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    Jags +3 against Kolb was bet of the week material. No way I'm touching Jax now though. Vick too good.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 10:08 PM ET #16

    Quote Originally Posted by chizzy97:

    respectfully disagree...it was time for mcnabb to go you can say all you want about how he took the eagles here and there but he doesnt win the big game...and i do agree on the part of you saying teams can game plan for him now...but with kevin kolb out there with this o line we had no shot

    Totally agree!!   Its hard to plan for Vick...but Kolb.....it was pretty easy as he is not the type of dynamic player Vick is, nor does he have the scrambling ability. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by chizzy97:

    respectfully disagree...it was time for mcnabb to go you can say all you want about how he took the eagles here and there but he doesnt win the big game...and i do agree on the part of you saying teams can game plan for him now...but with kevin kolb out there with this o line we had no shot

    Totally agree!!   Its hard to plan for Vick...but Kolb.....it was pretty easy as he is not the type of dynamic player Vick is, nor does he have the scrambling ability. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 10:13 PM ET #17

    Quote Originally Posted by chizzy97:

    respectfully disagree...it was time for mcnabb to go you can say all you want about how he took the eagles here and there but he doesnt win the big game...and i do agree on the part of you saying teams can game plan for him now...but with kevin kolb out there with this o line we had no shot


    The Lions were in the backfield the entire game.  No wonder Kolb got concussed.  They truly are terrible.  The D ain't much better Shawn Hill gashed them for 335 yards. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by chizzy97:

    respectfully disagree...it was time for mcnabb to go you can say all you want about how he took the eagles here and there but he doesnt win the big game...and i do agree on the part of you saying teams can game plan for him now...but with kevin kolb out there with this o line we had no shot


    The Lions were in the backfield the entire game.  No wonder Kolb got concussed.  They truly are terrible.  The D ain't much better Shawn Hill gashed them for 335 yards. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 10:16 PM ET #18

    Gimme VICK -3 SUNDAY
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    Gimme VICK -3 SUNDAY
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 10:16 PM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    Kevin Kolb, with no disrespect, can never run the offense in Philly with the offensive line Philly has.

    Agreed

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    Kevin Kolb, with no disrespect, can never run the offense in Philly with the offensive line Philly has.

    Agreed

     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 10:28 PM ET #20

    Does anyone remember Vick in ATL? I didn't think he looked good last year after just coming from jail and missing a lot of time, but if this dude is really focused like he claims he is I'm a believer...Vick only made the pro-bowl and beat GB at home in a playoff game (which had never happened before). I'm glad Andy Reid finally swallowed his pride and took notice that Vick looks so much better than Kolb has ever dreamed of playing, truly does anybody remember How Bad Kolb has played? Maybe Kolb is the next steve young or brett favre who needs a change of location, but I have never seen it.

    Bad....I think Vick is used to being Game-Planned against, and you can see w/ your own eyes his tosses are gorgeous and let him run and the team rallies behind that as well. Biggest no-brain decision I've seen in a while, and if Reid stuck to his guns w/ Kolb I would've had no problem saying another arrogant asshole keeping his team from winning.
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    Does anyone remember Vick in ATL? I didn't think he looked good last year after just coming from jail and missing a lot of time, but if this dude is really focused like he claims he is I'm a believer...Vick only made the pro-bowl and beat GB at home in a playoff game (which had never happened before). I'm glad Andy Reid finally swallowed his pride and took notice that Vick looks so much better than Kolb has ever dreamed of playing, truly does anybody remember How Bad Kolb has played? Maybe Kolb is the next steve young or brett favre who needs a change of location, but I have never seen it.

    Bad....I think Vick is used to being Game-Planned against, and you can see w/ your own eyes his tosses are gorgeous and let him run and the team rallies behind that as well. Biggest no-brain decision I've seen in a while, and if Reid stuck to his guns w/ Kolb I would've had no problem saying another arrogant asshole keeping his team from winning.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 21, 2010 - 10:28 PM ET #21

    eagles by 10 Sunday
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2010 - 10:51 AM ET #22

    Mike Vick  -    77 Career QB Rating   

    Mike Vick -  54% Career Completion Percentage 




    He's looked OK so far but sooner or later reality is going to kick in.    This guy is not a great QB and never was.     



    I'm not saying Kolb is any better but I wouldn't get too excited if I was an Eagles fan.   


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    Mike Vick  -    77 Career QB Rating   

    Mike Vick -  54% Career Completion Percentage 




    He's looked OK so far but sooner or later reality is going to kick in.    This guy is not a great QB and never was.     



    I'm not saying Kolb is any better but I wouldn't get too excited if I was an Eagles fan.   


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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2010 - 3:58 PM ET #23

    Quote Originally Posted by mwhit82:

    Does anyone remember Vick in ATL? I didn't think he looked good last year after just coming from jail and missing a lot of time, but if this dude is really focused like he claims he is I'm a believer...Vick only made the pro-bowl and beat GB at home in a playoff game (which had never happened before). I'm glad Andy Reid finally swallowed his pride and took notice that Vick looks so much better than Kolb has ever dreamed of playing, truly does anybody remember How Bad Kolb has played? Maybe Kolb is the next steve young or brett favre who needs a change of location, but I have never seen it.

    Bad....I think Vick is used to being Game-Planned against, and you can see w/ your own eyes his tosses are gorgeous and let him run and the team rallies behind that as well. Biggest no-brain decision I've seen in a while, and if Reid stuck to his guns w/ Kolb I would've had no problem saying another arrogant asshole keeping his team from winning.

    yes and i dont think he was ever that good a qb.  he is a highlight reel.  he played good against the lions and now people are ready to give him the mvp.   vick is not the future of this team if they really want to win a superbowl.  how do you announce kevin kolb is your future..get rid of mcnabb, and then bench him after 2 quarters..of which he had no protection...and now all confidence is probably gone for him, at least in philly.  so now philly has nothing long term.  even if vick is great this year, their defense is average at best since their coordinator died, this is not a championship defence or team.  they were better off swallowing the pill which i believe they planned on doing in the off season naming kolb the starter.  now this team has no future at qb, they will not get a good draft pick because they will certainly win their share of games. so i guess they sign vick to a 3 year deal if hey plays good and overpay him?, because someone will overpay for him after this year, there are some horrible qb situations out there. i agree vick right now gives them a better chance to win week to week, but long term they are screwed. what qb walks into a starting position and lights it up? very few, kolb never even got  a chance, 2 quarters and spot play last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mwhit82:

    Does anyone remember Vick in ATL? I didn't think he looked good last year after just coming from jail and missing a lot of time, but if this dude is really focused like he claims he is I'm a believer...Vick only made the pro-bowl and beat GB at home in a playoff game (which had never happened before). I'm glad Andy Reid finally swallowed his pride and took notice that Vick looks so much better than Kolb has ever dreamed of playing, truly does anybody remember How Bad Kolb has played? Maybe Kolb is the next steve young or brett favre who needs a change of location, but I have never seen it.

    Bad....I think Vick is used to being Game-Planned against, and you can see w/ your own eyes his tosses are gorgeous and let him run and the team rallies behind that as well. Biggest no-brain decision I've seen in a while, and if Reid stuck to his guns w/ Kolb I would've had no problem saying another arrogant asshole keeping his team from winning.

    yes and i dont think he was ever that good a qb.  he is a highlight reel.  he played good against the lions and now people are ready to give him the mvp.   vick is not the future of this team if they really want to win a superbowl.  how do you announce kevin kolb is your future..get rid of mcnabb, and then bench him after 2 quarters..of which he had no protection...and now all confidence is probably gone for him, at least in philly.  so now philly has nothing long term.  even if vick is great this year, their defense is average at best since their coordinator died, this is not a championship defence or team.  they were better off swallowing the pill which i believe they planned on doing in the off season naming kolb the starter.  now this team has no future at qb, they will not get a good draft pick because they will certainly win their share of games. so i guess they sign vick to a 3 year deal if hey plays good and overpay him?, because someone will overpay for him after this year, there are some horrible qb situations out there. i agree vick right now gives them a better chance to win week to week, but long term they are screwed. what qb walks into a starting position and lights it up? very few, kolb never even got  a chance, 2 quarters and spot play last year.

     
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    eagles can improve on their future regarding defense as they can actually get real good draft picks if they trade kolb. there are a bunch of teams out there who have shit masquerading as qb's right now.

    season is still young so have to wait and see if vick can handle the rest of the season. teams are already looking back at those old falcons tapes to learn how to stop vick.

     

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    eagles can improve on their future regarding defense as they can actually get real good draft picks if they trade kolb. there are a bunch of teams out there who have shit masquerading as qb's right now.

    season is still young so have to wait and see if vick can handle the rest of the season. teams are already looking back at those old falcons tapes to learn how to stop vick.

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2169:

    Awesome for Vick.  He's finally made it all the way back.  Great story.

    Hs finally made it back? great story?   what is up with u people actin like this guy was the victim... HES A FELON who commited a sick crime... lets see what happens when he plays a real team and not the division II detroit lions

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2169:

    Awesome for Vick.  He's finally made it all the way back.  Great story.

    Hs finally made it back? great story?   what is up with u people actin like this guy was the victim... HES A FELON who commited a sick crime... lets see what happens when he plays a real team and not the division II detroit lions

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