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    ***BIGGEST WAGER SINCE LAST YEARS SUPER BOWL----SAINTS VS FALCONS***

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    RichmondTigers
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 4:22 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:



    You should go back to school & learn to count because I didnt lose 10k

    that's right, you lose nothing cause you don't bet with real money to begin with 
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:



    You should go back to school & learn to count because I didnt lose 10k

    that's right, you lose nothing cause you don't bet with real money to begin with 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 4:25 AM ET #27

    these two always plays close . take the points!
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    these two always plays close . take the points!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 4:44 AM ET #28

    PrimetimeClown. I hit HUGE on a boxing play (https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101073868).

    Unlike you my roll is real. I am going to put my money where my mouth is and put your entire bank roll (50k) on Saints -6.5. It takes a few days to organise a bet like this, because my money is not monolopy money but I am in the process of organising it now..I will put the bet slip as my avatar when the bet goes through. Will you do the same?

    I am going to expose you for the joke that u are. I have no feeling for the Saints. The only feeling I have is that u are a joke and when u bet big I fade..

    I thank you in advance..
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    PrimetimeClown. I hit HUGE on a boxing play (https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101073868).

    Unlike you my roll is real. I am going to put my money where my mouth is and put your entire bank roll (50k) on Saints -6.5. It takes a few days to organise a bet like this, because my money is not monolopy money but I am in the process of organising it now..I will put the bet slip as my avatar when the bet goes through. Will you do the same?

    I am going to expose you for the joke that u are. I have no feeling for the Saints. The only feeling I have is that u are a joke and when u bet big I fade..

    I thank you in advance..
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 4:56 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    PrimetimeClown. I hit HUGE on a boxing play (https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101073868).

    Unlike you my roll is real. I am going to put my money where my mouth is and put your entire bank roll (50k) on Saints -6.5. It takes a few days to organise a bet like this, because my money is not monolopy money but I am in the process of organising it now..I will put the bet slip as my avatar when the bet goes through. Will you do the same?

    I am going to expose you for the joke that u are. I have no feeling for the Saints. The only feeling I have is that u are a joke and when u bet big I fade..

    I thank you in advance..
    Saints -7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    PrimetimeClown. I hit HUGE on a boxing play (https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101073868).

    Unlike you my roll is real. I am going to put my money where my mouth is and put your entire bank roll (50k) on Saints -6.5. It takes a few days to organise a bet like this, because my money is not monolopy money but I am in the process of organising it now..I will put the bet slip as my avatar when the bet goes through. Will you do the same?

    I am going to expose you for the joke that u are. I have no feeling for the Saints. The only feeling I have is that u are a joke and when u bet big I fade..

    I thank you in advance..
    Saints -7
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 5:08 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    I liked the under Monday night but bet the damn Steelers for a lot more  should have stayed away knowing I wanted to bet this Monday night game coming up...........bankroll now stands at +$45,902............ with this 6 team 6.5 pt teaser pending 49ers +3.5, Falcons +13,  $6,000 to win $5,000...............I will hit it...........


    I have been waiting for this Monday night match-up since the Falcons blew out the Jags on Thursday night.........should have known you gotta be careful on capping weeks 15 thru 17 because of all the playoff implications...........


    Saints vs Falcons..........the Saints are coasting winning & covering 6 straight games & are looking for the 1st round bye & #2 spot but to earn it, the 49ers need to lose a game which didnt happen on Monday night vs the Steelers so the Saints will be waiting to see how the 49ers do vs the hot Seattle team on Sunday...............

    I have the 49ers losing to red hot Seattle & putting pressure on the Saints to win on Monday night & take control of the #2 spot but it wont happen, the Falcons will win SU.............



    The Falcons got back on track having to play a soft Jags team in disarray.............with 10 days rest, the Falcons should go toe to toe with the Saints & actually beat them SU.............Saints are undefeated at home but that changes Monday night...............oh, lets not forget how the Falcons lost last season in week 16 at home on Monday night which allowed the Saints to get into the playoffs..............what goes around, comes around.................


    I will wait for the Falcons ML & will be placing $5,000 on it............will also be placing $15,000 on the spread & I see it at +6.5 but will wait for +7...........I wont be buying back this bet so dont ask............



    Take the Falcons big on the spread & ML......................



    I will also be playing the Seahawks ML, Giants ML & Chargers ML..............


    Tail or fade, its up to you, I did lose some big bets this past week...........
    This is so ridiculous Prime Time.   Your threads are starting to be ...........
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    I liked the under Monday night but bet the damn Steelers for a lot more  should have stayed away knowing I wanted to bet this Monday night game coming up...........bankroll now stands at +$45,902............ with this 6 team 6.5 pt teaser pending 49ers +3.5, Falcons +13,  $6,000 to win $5,000...............I will hit it...........


    I have been waiting for this Monday night match-up since the Falcons blew out the Jags on Thursday night.........should have known you gotta be careful on capping weeks 15 thru 17 because of all the playoff implications...........


    Saints vs Falcons..........the Saints are coasting winning & covering 6 straight games & are looking for the 1st round bye & #2 spot but to earn it, the 49ers need to lose a game which didnt happen on Monday night vs the Steelers so the Saints will be waiting to see how the 49ers do vs the hot Seattle team on Sunday...............

    I have the 49ers losing to red hot Seattle & putting pressure on the Saints to win on Monday night & take control of the #2 spot but it wont happen, the Falcons will win SU.............



    The Falcons got back on track having to play a soft Jags team in disarray.............with 10 days rest, the Falcons should go toe to toe with the Saints & actually beat them SU.............Saints are undefeated at home but that changes Monday night...............oh, lets not forget how the Falcons lost last season in week 16 at home on Monday night which allowed the Saints to get into the playoffs..............what goes around, comes around.................


    I will wait for the Falcons ML & will be placing $5,000 on it............will also be placing $15,000 on the spread & I see it at +6.5 but will wait for +7...........I wont be buying back this bet so dont ask............



    Take the Falcons big on the spread & ML......................



    I will also be playing the Seahawks ML, Giants ML & Chargers ML..............


    Tail or fade, its up to you, I did lose some big bets this past week...........
    This is so ridiculous Prime Time.   Your threads are starting to be ...........
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 6:00 AM ET #31

    GL Prime
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    GL Prime
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 6:59 AM ET #32

    This is an excellent pick, had this on my radar for a while!  Love the spread and ml!
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    This is an excellent pick, had this on my radar for a while!  Love the spread and ml!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 9:00 AM ET #33

    Don't worry Prime, anyone can fuck up one week - it happened to all of us, the best thing is to get back on track. Now, I disagree with this prediction you are making about the Falcons, as I killed last week with the totals, and you said yourself that Atlanta will keep it up with the Falcons, don't you think that playing the over (whatever it is, maybe 51to54) is way more secure bet??? I liked Atlanta last week vs the Jags, but we're talking no offense there and now we have the red hot Drew Brees at home? I won't bet against him and his insane receivers, so this is all up to you, but in my eyes this game will be a huge scoring game, maybe over 65 points. About the Chargers - I am on board there (hugely) and about the Giants - we have a clash of the 2 biggest box QB this year and I don't know which one is the bigger one...And I am on Philadelphia ML and Over, as well as on New England spread, Buffalo ML (Tebow and his horses will go down in flames, as we talked before), Baltimore Spread (time for them to shake that big loss vs the Chargers and trash a weak Browns team) and I am also on Carolina/Tampa Bay over - these are my early leans and from so many games you pointed you're gonna go big on the last of them? Let's first talk early games (Like what do you think about that insanely stupid and meaningless Thursday night game) and then we can talk Packers/Bears and later Saints/Falcons. Good luck though, I know you're gonna bounce back. And all of you haters, faders or whatever you are - take your ugly faces back to the holes from where you crept, ugly bitches.
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    Don't worry Prime, anyone can fuck up one week - it happened to all of us, the best thing is to get back on track. Now, I disagree with this prediction you are making about the Falcons, as I killed last week with the totals, and you said yourself that Atlanta will keep it up with the Falcons, don't you think that playing the over (whatever it is, maybe 51to54) is way more secure bet??? I liked Atlanta last week vs the Jags, but we're talking no offense there and now we have the red hot Drew Brees at home? I won't bet against him and his insane receivers, so this is all up to you, but in my eyes this game will be a huge scoring game, maybe over 65 points. About the Chargers - I am on board there (hugely) and about the Giants - we have a clash of the 2 biggest box QB this year and I don't know which one is the bigger one...And I am on Philadelphia ML and Over, as well as on New England spread, Buffalo ML (Tebow and his horses will go down in flames, as we talked before), Baltimore Spread (time for them to shake that big loss vs the Chargers and trash a weak Browns team) and I am also on Carolina/Tampa Bay over - these are my early leans and from so many games you pointed you're gonna go big on the last of them? Let's first talk early games (Like what do you think about that insanely stupid and meaningless Thursday night game) and then we can talk Packers/Bears and later Saints/Falcons. Good luck though, I know you're gonna bounce back. And all of you haters, faders or whatever you are - take your ugly faces back to the holes from where you crept, ugly bitches.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 9:24 AM ET #34

    Lol!
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    Lol!
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 12:47 PM ET #35

    First matchup, Falcons should've won they gained nearly 500 yards of offense (481) vs Saints (363). Falcons moved the ball at will on the Saints but unfortunately they settled for FG's instead of TD's once in the redzone. With 10 days rest and strong motivation of revenge, I think Falcons cover -7 and have a strong possibility of winning straight up.
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    First matchup, Falcons should've won they gained nearly 500 yards of offense (481) vs Saints (363). Falcons moved the ball at will on the Saints but unfortunately they settled for FG's instead of TD's once in the redzone. With 10 days rest and strong motivation of revenge, I think Falcons cover -7 and have a strong possibility of winning straight up.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 12:48 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by B00ky:

    You must be smoking that good shit Prime if you think the Ninners are going to lose to Seahawks.  I know they are on a short week on the road, but 9ers been playing well on the road but it will be tough as I will hammer the UNDER!!!


    How do you figure the 49ers play well on the road? They lost their last 2 games on the road................
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    Quote Originally Posted by B00ky:

    You must be smoking that good shit Prime if you think the Ninners are going to lose to Seahawks.  I know they are on a short week on the road, but 9ers been playing well on the road but it will be tough as I will hammer the UNDER!!!


    How do you figure the 49ers play well on the road? They lost their last 2 games on the road................
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 12:51 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    PrimetimeClown. I hit HUGE on a boxing play (https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101073868).

    Unlike you my roll is real. I am going to put my money where my mouth is and put your entire bank roll (50k) on Saints -6.5. It takes a few days to organise a bet like this, because my money is not monolopy money but I am in the process of organising it now..I will put the bet slip as my avatar when the bet goes through. Will you do the same?

    I am going to expose you for the joke that u are. I have no feeling for the Saints. The only feeling I have is that u are a joke and when u bet big I fade..

    I thank you in advance..


    Fade all you want, just be back in this thread after the game................
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    PrimetimeClown. I hit HUGE on a boxing play (https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101073868).

    Unlike you my roll is real. I am going to put my money where my mouth is and put your entire bank roll (50k) on Saints -6.5. It takes a few days to organise a bet like this, because my money is not monolopy money but I am in the process of organising it now..I will put the bet slip as my avatar when the bet goes through. Will you do the same?

    I am going to expose you for the joke that u are. I have no feeling for the Saints. The only feeling I have is that u are a joke and when u bet big I fade..

    I thank you in advance..


    Fade all you want, just be back in this thread after the game................
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 12:55 PM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by whitesnake1983:

    Don't worry Prime, anyone can fuck up one week - it happened to all of us, the best thing is to get back on track. Now, I disagree with this prediction you are making about the Falcons, as I killed last week with the totals, and you said yourself that Atlanta will keep it up with the Falcons, don't you think that playing the over (whatever it is, maybe 51to54) is way more secure bet??? I liked Atlanta last week vs the Jags, but we're talking no offense there and now we have the red hot Drew Brees at home? I won't bet against him and his insane receivers, so this is all up to you, but in my eyes this game will be a huge scoring game, maybe over 65 points. About the Chargers - I am on board there (hugely) and about the Giants - we have a clash of the 2 biggest box QB this year and I don't know which one is the bigger one...And I am on Philadelphia ML and Over, as well as on New England spread, Buffalo ML (Tebow and his horses will go down in flames, as we talked before), Baltimore Spread (time for them to shake that big loss vs the Chargers and trash a weak Browns team) and I am also on Carolina/Tampa Bay over - these are my early leans and from so many games you pointed you're gonna go big on the last of them? Let's first talk early games (Like what do you think about that insanely stupid and meaningless Thursday night game) and then we can talk Packers/Bears and later Saints/Falcons. Good luck though, I know you're gonna bounce back. And all of you haters, faders or whatever you are - take your ugly faces back to the holes from where you crept, ugly bitches.


    HaHa Snake............these clowns dont bother me...........I hope they do fade me because their bookie will have a Happy New Year..........as for the meaningless game, I am leaning Texans but will probably not play it..............


    As for the games, I definitely am playing the Chargers & Giants..............I also like the Bills but like Miami...............xmas day, the Packers will destroy the Bears.............
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    Don't worry Prime, anyone can fuck up one week - it happened to all of us, the best thing is to get back on track. Now, I disagree with this prediction you are making about the Falcons, as I killed last week with the totals, and you said yourself that Atlanta will keep it up with the Falcons, don't you think that playing the over (whatever it is, maybe 51to54) is way more secure bet??? I liked Atlanta last week vs the Jags, but we're talking no offense there and now we have the red hot Drew Brees at home? I won't bet against him and his insane receivers, so this is all up to you, but in my eyes this game will be a huge scoring game, maybe over 65 points. About the Chargers - I am on board there (hugely) and about the Giants - we have a clash of the 2 biggest box QB this year and I don't know which one is the bigger one...And I am on Philadelphia ML and Over, as well as on New England spread, Buffalo ML (Tebow and his horses will go down in flames, as we talked before), Baltimore Spread (time for them to shake that big loss vs the Chargers and trash a weak Browns team) and I am also on Carolina/Tampa Bay over - these are my early leans and from so many games you pointed you're gonna go big on the last of them? Let's first talk early games (Like what do you think about that insanely stupid and meaningless Thursday night game) and then we can talk Packers/Bears and later Saints/Falcons. Good luck though, I know you're gonna bounce back. And all of you haters, faders or whatever you are - take your ugly faces back to the holes from where you crept, ugly bitches.


    HaHa Snake............these clowns dont bother me...........I hope they do fade me because their bookie will have a Happy New Year..........as for the meaningless game, I am leaning Texans but will probably not play it..............


    As for the games, I definitely am playing the Chargers & Giants..............I also like the Bills but like Miami...............xmas day, the Packers will destroy the Bears.............
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 1:07 PM ET #39

    i like the way u think as well as ur picks with the exception of the giants.  i dont see the eagles getting eliminated so easily . 
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    i like the way u think as well as ur picks with the exception of the giants.  i dont see the eagles getting eliminated so easily . 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 1:49 PM ET #40

    STORY UP BUD. your Putting 5 grand on Falcons MONEYLINE.  I think U added a few too many 000.
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 2:02 PM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    I liked the under Monday night but bet the damn Steelers for a lot more  should have stayed away knowing I wanted to bet this Monday night game coming up...........bankroll now stands at +$45,902............ with this 6 team 6.5 pt teaser pending 49ers +3.5, Falcons +13,  $6,000 to win $5,000...............I will hit it...........


    I have been waiting for this Monday night match-up since the Falcons blew out the Jags on Thursday night.........should have known you gotta be careful on capping weeks 15 thru 17 because of all the playoff implications...........


    Saints vs Falcons..........the Saints are coasting winning & covering 6 straight games & are looking for the 1st round bye & #2 spot but to earn it, the 49ers need to lose a game which didnt happen on Monday night vs the Steelers so the Saints will be waiting to see how the 49ers do vs the hot Seattle team on Sunday...............

    I have the 49ers losing to red hot Seattle & putting pressure on the Saints to win on Monday night & take control of the #2 spot but it wont happen, the Falcons will win SU.............



    The Falcons got back on track having to play a soft Jags team in disarray.............with 10 days rest, the Falcons should go toe to toe with the Saints & actually beat them SU.............Saints are undefeated at home but that changes Monday night...............oh, lets not forget how the Falcons lost last season in week 16 at home on Monday night which allowed the Saints to get into the playoffs..............what goes around, comes around.................


    I will wait for the Falcons ML & will be placing $5,000 on it............will also be placing $15,000 on the spread & I see it at +6.5 but will wait for +7...........I wont be buying back this bet so dont ask............



    Take the Falcons big on the spread & ML......................



    I will also be playing the Seahawks ML, Giants ML & Chargers ML..............


    Tail or fade, its up to you, I did lose some big bets this past week...........

    GL Bud, also on the falcons but the +7 i got the other day...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    I liked the under Monday night but bet the damn Steelers for a lot more  should have stayed away knowing I wanted to bet this Monday night game coming up...........bankroll now stands at +$45,902............ with this 6 team 6.5 pt teaser pending 49ers +3.5, Falcons +13,  $6,000 to win $5,000...............I will hit it...........


    I have been waiting for this Monday night match-up since the Falcons blew out the Jags on Thursday night.........should have known you gotta be careful on capping weeks 15 thru 17 because of all the playoff implications...........


    Saints vs Falcons..........the Saints are coasting winning & covering 6 straight games & are looking for the 1st round bye & #2 spot but to earn it, the 49ers need to lose a game which didnt happen on Monday night vs the Steelers so the Saints will be waiting to see how the 49ers do vs the hot Seattle team on Sunday...............

    I have the 49ers losing to red hot Seattle & putting pressure on the Saints to win on Monday night & take control of the #2 spot but it wont happen, the Falcons will win SU.............



    The Falcons got back on track having to play a soft Jags team in disarray.............with 10 days rest, the Falcons should go toe to toe with the Saints & actually beat them SU.............Saints are undefeated at home but that changes Monday night...............oh, lets not forget how the Falcons lost last season in week 16 at home on Monday night which allowed the Saints to get into the playoffs..............what goes around, comes around.................


    I will wait for the Falcons ML & will be placing $5,000 on it............will also be placing $15,000 on the spread & I see it at +6.5 but will wait for +7...........I wont be buying back this bet so dont ask............



    Take the Falcons big on the spread & ML......................



    I will also be playing the Seahawks ML, Giants ML & Chargers ML..............


    Tail or fade, its up to you, I did lose some big bets this past week...........

    GL Bud, also on the falcons but the +7 i got the other day...

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 2:08 PM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    the NFL would never have both brothers lose back to back on tv

    Do you actually believe this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrimeTimeBoys:

    the NFL would never have both brothers lose back to back on tv

    Do you actually believe this?
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 2:52 PM ET #43

    Falcons are one of the most complete team in the league. However, i am still not convinced that they will beat the Saints in their own dome where Drew Brees is just superhuman. I do like the OVER @ 52 on this one. I think Falcons may cover (+7), but the ML is a hard play.

    Seattle is one of my strongest plays this week. They are in a good spot right now @ +1.5. They may even win outright. Chargers are on a run, and are really good in December.

    I have to disagree on the Giants/Jets. Jets defense is anemic this year compared to last year. However, I still think that they get it done, and the race for the NFC East will come down to Week 17.

    BOL to you Prime
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    Falcons are one of the most complete team in the league. However, i am still not convinced that they will beat the Saints in their own dome where Drew Brees is just superhuman. I do like the OVER @ 52 on this one. I think Falcons may cover (+7), but the ML is a hard play.

    Seattle is one of my strongest plays this week. They are in a good spot right now @ +1.5. They may even win outright. Chargers are on a run, and are really good in December.

    I have to disagree on the Giants/Jets. Jets defense is anemic this year compared to last year. However, I still think that they get it done, and the race for the NFC East will come down to Week 17.

    BOL to you Prime
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 4:20 PM ET #44

    I dont think you are right on this one.... Well not the SU part.... NO already beat ATL in ATL this year... Brees has been playing some really good football lately... Im not sure about the spread yet, I would rather take the saints if it gets to be around -4.5 or -5.... Just cant see ATL beating them SU... infact, I cant see the saints losing again in regular season.... ATL and Carolina wont knock them out of the first round buy.... SF will have to do that by not losing any more games.... I pick SF to win against seattle as well.. Just cant see them losing to that team... Sadly I dont see them losing to STL either.... Im pretty sure that the saints will not have the first round buy this year, but it wont stop them from trying.... if SF does lose, then I would bet big on NO because they will come out looking for a huge win to secure their buy.
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    I dont think you are right on this one.... Well not the SU part.... NO already beat ATL in ATL this year... Brees has been playing some really good football lately... Im not sure about the spread yet, I would rather take the saints if it gets to be around -4.5 or -5.... Just cant see ATL beating them SU... infact, I cant see the saints losing again in regular season.... ATL and Carolina wont knock them out of the first round buy.... SF will have to do that by not losing any more games.... I pick SF to win against seattle as well.. Just cant see them losing to that team... Sadly I dont see them losing to STL either.... Im pretty sure that the saints will not have the first round buy this year, but it wont stop them from trying.... if SF does lose, then I would bet big on NO because they will come out looking for a huge win to secure their buy.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 4:44 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by AJCAcura:

    I dont think you are right on this one.... Well not the SU part.... NO already beat ATL in ATL this year... Brees has been playing some really good football lately... Im not sure about the spread yet, I would rather take the saints if it gets to be around -4.5 or -5.... Just cant see ATL beating them SU... infact, I cant see the saints losing again in regular season.... ATL and Carolina wont knock them out of the first round buy.... SF will have to do that by not losing any more games.... I pick SF to win against seattle as well.. Just cant see them losing to that team... Sadly I dont see them losing to STL either.... Im pretty sure that the saints will not have the first round buy this year, but it wont stop them from trying.... if SF does lose, then I would bet big on NO because they will come out looking for a huge win to secure their buy.

    SF > Seattle 
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    I dont think you are right on this one.... Well not the SU part.... NO already beat ATL in ATL this year... Brees has been playing some really good football lately... Im not sure about the spread yet, I would rather take the saints if it gets to be around -4.5 or -5.... Just cant see ATL beating them SU... infact, I cant see the saints losing again in regular season.... ATL and Carolina wont knock them out of the first round buy.... SF will have to do that by not losing any more games.... I pick SF to win against seattle as well.. Just cant see them losing to that team... Sadly I dont see them losing to STL either.... Im pretty sure that the saints will not have the first round buy this year, but it wont stop them from trying.... if SF does lose, then I would bet big on NO because they will come out looking for a huge win to secure their buy.

    SF > Seattle 
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 4:52 PM ET #46

    Quote Originally Posted by SHAKEnBAKE209:


    SF > Seattle 

     

    SF is greater than seattle?  thats what im saying... so why am i getting a shaking finger telling me no?

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    SF > Seattle 

     

    SF is greater than seattle?  thats what im saying... so why am i getting a shaking finger telling me no?

     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 4:53 PM ET #47

    I will be on saints ML, best of luck.
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 5:02 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by Riceboi:

    I will be on saints ML, best of luck.

     

    I might join you on that one... dep how low the line gets... I think it will drop some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riceboi:

    I will be on saints ML, best of luck.

     

    I might join you on that one... dep how low the line gets... I think it will drop some.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMethod:

    First matchup, Falcons should've won they gained nearly 500 yards of offense (481) vs Saints (363). Falcons moved the ball at will on the Saints but unfortunately they settled for FG's instead of TD's once in the redzone. With 10 days rest and strong motivation of revenge, I think Falcons cover -7 and have a strong possibility of winning straight up.


    This logic I believe is very faulty. It assumes that because Atl gained 500 yards of offense vs NO 363 but the Saints benefited because Alt scored FGs vs the Saints TDs that this will occur in the rematch. It further extrapolates that Atl with extra rest will score the TDs this time and come out on top because they also want revenge. Dangerous assumptions for one's bankroll.
    The problem is that it fails to consider the extremely obvious but absolute truth that Atl was at HOME in that match up and the Saints were on the road. HF advantage is generally considered a 3 pt edge in the NFL. I believe these two dome teams' HFA is actually more. When these teams "bring it' at home, especially on Prime Time with their crowds giving the away team the handicap of running an offense when they can't hear shit resulting in False Start and such penalties, I believe the HFA can be considered a TD or more depending on the circumstances. That's not even really accounting for how the home team gets extra inspiration from the home crowd cheering for them. Also, the away team often gets very frustrated and this all too often results in really stupid penalties...15 yard Unsportsmanlike and Personal Foul penalties. That's why many of these games become blow outs.
    Should Have, Could Have, and Would Have are poor handicapping tools. What did happen is a much better predictor.
    The fact that Atl LOST by 3 AT HOME in spite of the advantage I just delineated should be telling you a boatload. They are not that good a team. They are a good team IMO, but not as good as NO. The fact that NO won having to overcome the handicap and burden of winning in Atl should be telling you that they are better than you give them credit for by looking at yardage stats. Assuming you are going to be seeing similar stats in the rematch is wrong thinking IMO. Also, I'm not going to discuss the "revenge" much, but I learned years ago "you don't get revenge on the road". Believe it or not, I did not come by this realization cheaply. You smack your head against a wall enough, you will eventually split your skill or realize not to do that any more!
    This time, the game is in NO. I'm sorry to break it to you, but this game is more likely to be a blowout by NO than a close game and to cap that Atl wins straight up is sheer fantasy.
    Here's the NO home Prime Time games this season:
    SN vs Colts    62-7 , MN vs NYG  49-24, SN vs Det  31-17
    Yeah, Ind is a bad team...but 62-7? That should be screaming out some reality to you. Beating NYG and Det convincingly is a clue that Atl is going so suffer a similar fate.
    These stats are good indicators:
    NO: (all ATS) as a fav 9-3, home 6-0, 3-0 prime time with the narrowest victory "only" 14 points. 5-1 when playing a team with a winning record.
    Atl: 2-3 as a dog, 3-4 road, 1-3 vs team with a winning record.
    Look at those trends carefully because if you consider them together, that's how I would mathematically estimate your chances of being right. Slim, Slimmer, and None and Slim already left town. LOL

    I already explained in a previous post here that both teams have the same basic motivations and neither team has a MUST WIN game here and now.. To say that Atl's motivation of not giving up ground with their two game lead as a wild card team is more important that NO's motivation of wanting to win an all important #2 seed is not too bright or insightful IMO.
    Neither team MUST WIN this game, both WANT TO win this game and there is a huge difference.
    That being the case, I say to use the KISS (keep it simple stupid) method of handicapping and just realize and accept that the home field advantage in this match up is what is going to make the biggest difference. The place will be rockin', the crowd will be pumped, loud, and rowdy. One team will be fighting against the current, the other going with the flow. That is HUGE!!!!!!
    That is not to say that any given Sunday, that anything can't happen doesn't have a measure of truth. I am saying that for me, I will go with the odds, and absolutely NOT pick Atl in this game. I love NO on a teaser, and even -7 I think is a reasonable play. I think Atl ML is just flushing money down the toilet. Atl +7 is playing with fire. Even Atl +13 IMO is not a sure thing. That's how I break down these 4 possible outcomes here and that's how my money will vote.
    Anyway, we can debate all we want for what it matters. After SN, one of us will be right, and the other wrong.
    No matter, I sincerely wish you the BOL which ever way you wager.

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    First matchup, Falcons should've won they gained nearly 500 yards of offense (481) vs Saints (363). Falcons moved the ball at will on the Saints but unfortunately they settled for FG's instead of TD's once in the redzone. With 10 days rest and strong motivation of revenge, I think Falcons cover -7 and have a strong possibility of winning straight up.


    This logic I believe is very faulty. It assumes that because Atl gained 500 yards of offense vs NO 363 but the Saints benefited because Alt scored FGs vs the Saints TDs that this will occur in the rematch. It further extrapolates that Atl with extra rest will score the TDs this time and come out on top because they also want revenge. Dangerous assumptions for one's bankroll.
    The problem is that it fails to consider the extremely obvious but absolute truth that Atl was at HOME in that match up and the Saints were on the road. HF advantage is generally considered a 3 pt edge in the NFL. I believe these two dome teams' HFA is actually more. When these teams "bring it' at home, especially on Prime Time with their crowds giving the away team the handicap of running an offense when they can't hear shit resulting in False Start and such penalties, I believe the HFA can be considered a TD or more depending on the circumstances. That's not even really accounting for how the home team gets extra inspiration from the home crowd cheering for them. Also, the away team often gets very frustrated and this all too often results in really stupid penalties...15 yard Unsportsmanlike and Personal Foul penalties. That's why many of these games become blow outs.
    Should Have, Could Have, and Would Have are poor handicapping tools. What did happen is a much better predictor.
    The fact that Atl LOST by 3 AT HOME in spite of the advantage I just delineated should be telling you a boatload. They are not that good a team. They are a good team IMO, but not as good as NO. The fact that NO won having to overcome the handicap and burden of winning in Atl should be telling you that they are better than you give them credit for by looking at yardage stats. Assuming you are going to be seeing similar stats in the rematch is wrong thinking IMO. Also, I'm not going to discuss the "revenge" much, but I learned years ago "you don't get revenge on the road". Believe it or not, I did not come by this realization cheaply. You smack your head against a wall enough, you will eventually split your skill or realize not to do that any more!
    This time, the game is in NO. I'm sorry to break it to you, but this game is more likely to be a blowout by NO than a close game and to cap that Atl wins straight up is sheer fantasy.
    Here's the NO home Prime Time games this season:
    SN vs Colts    62-7 , MN vs NYG  49-24, SN vs Det  31-17
    Yeah, Ind is a bad team...but 62-7? That should be screaming out some reality to you. Beating NYG and Det convincingly is a clue that Atl is going so suffer a similar fate.
    These stats are good indicators:
    NO: (all ATS) as a fav 9-3, home 6-0, 3-0 prime time with the narrowest victory "only" 14 points. 5-1 when playing a team with a winning record.
    Atl: 2-3 as a dog, 3-4 road, 1-3 vs team with a winning record.
    Look at those trends carefully because if you consider them together, that's how I would mathematically estimate your chances of being right. Slim, Slimmer, and None and Slim already left town. LOL

    I already explained in a previous post here that both teams have the same basic motivations and neither team has a MUST WIN game here and now.. To say that Atl's motivation of not giving up ground with their two game lead as a wild card team is more important that NO's motivation of wanting to win an all important #2 seed is not too bright or insightful IMO.
    Neither team MUST WIN this game, both WANT TO win this game and there is a huge difference.
    That being the case, I say to use the KISS (keep it simple stupid) method of handicapping and just realize and accept that the home field advantage in this match up is what is going to make the biggest difference. The place will be rockin', the crowd will be pumped, loud, and rowdy. One team will be fighting against the current, the other going with the flow. That is HUGE!!!!!!
    That is not to say that any given Sunday, that anything can't happen doesn't have a measure of truth. I am saying that for me, I will go with the odds, and absolutely NOT pick Atl in this game. I love NO on a teaser, and even -7 I think is a reasonable play. I think Atl ML is just flushing money down the toilet. Atl +7 is playing with fire. Even Atl +13 IMO is not a sure thing. That's how I break down these 4 possible outcomes here and that's how my money will vote.
    Anyway, we can debate all we want for what it matters. After SN, one of us will be right, and the other wrong.
    No matter, I sincerely wish you the BOL which ever way you wager.

     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 20, 2011 - 5:12 PM ET #50

    Another thing about ATL.... if they win one of their next two games, they def have the wildcard spot.. they possibly would even get in with two losses.... they play Tampa next week... that will be their win to guarantee their spot in the playoffs.... they might not be playing 100% agasint the saints and saving their energy for Tampa.... The saints have everything to be playing for in this game.. they need to win out to have a shot at the first round buy... like I said ESPECIALLY if SF loses to seattle.
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