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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:01 PM ET #76

    there were some rubish calls that went --- not bradys--- but patriots way, im not a raiders fan but one american mate is, and i still remember how mad he was at the zebras for a fumble call in a a championship match......in 2001
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    there were some rubish calls that went --- not bradys--- but patriots way, im not a raiders fan but one american mate is, and i still remember how mad he was at the zebras for a fumble call in a a championship match......in 2001
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:02 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    2001 Go look at that roster


    You have to be kidding.

    One season?

    Some QBs just have it easy, there are others such as BOTH Mannings, Flacco (and others before him) Collins (TWICE now) and even Big Ben.

    Brady is in similar company as others who have MAYBE been on a bad team for a season, unlike others who are on bad teams and ELEVATE them (Warner last year).

    Simms was on a great defensive team, his career stats dont put him in the top 30, Bradshaw had as many or MORE INTs than TDs and his career passer rating was 75!

    I grew up with Bradshaw and he had it EASY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    2001 Go look at that roster


    You have to be kidding.

    One season?

    Some QBs just have it easy, there are others such as BOTH Mannings, Flacco (and others before him) Collins (TWICE now) and even Big Ben.

    Brady is in similar company as others who have MAYBE been on a bad team for a season, unlike others who are on bad teams and ELEVATE them (Warner last year).

    Simms was on a great defensive team, his career stats dont put him in the top 30, Bradshaw had as many or MORE INTs than TDs and his career passer rating was 75!

    I grew up with Bradshaw and he had it EASY.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:04 PM ET #78

    Peyton Manning!
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:07 PM ET #79

    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    Brady closes and Peyton doesn't?

    Do you know anything about sports?

    Do you remember January, 21st when Manning beat Brady in the AFC championship game?

    Manning led the game winning TD drive and then Brady threw a pick to Jackson.

    Moron.


    That's fucking right!! Look what Peyton has to deal with, tons of injuries and ZERO running game. PEYTON IS THE BEST!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuckey:

    Brady closes and Peyton doesn't?

    Do you know anything about sports?

    Do you remember January, 21st when Manning beat Brady in the AFC championship game?

    Manning led the game winning TD drive and then Brady threw a pick to Jackson.

    Moron.


    That's fucking right!! Look what Peyton has to deal with, tons of injuries and ZERO running game. PEYTON IS THE BEST!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:08 PM ET #80

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    2001 Go look at that roster

    every one knows dilfer won the superbowl as a starting qb for the ravens because of that defense. bottom line is you wont win without a decent defense

    i dont consider roethlisberger an elite qb in the league. he is good but without that d he has no superbowls.

    new england never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    2001 Go look at that roster

    every one knows dilfer won the superbowl as a starting qb for the ravens because of that defense. bottom line is you wont win without a decent defense

    i dont consider roethlisberger an elite qb in the league. he is good but without that d he has no superbowls.

    new england never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:12 PM ET #81

    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    every one knows dilfer won the superbowl as a starting qb for the ravens because of that defense. bottom line is you wont win without a decent defense

    i dont consider roethlisberger an elite qb in the league. he is good but without that d he has no superbowls.

    new england never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl



    Are you crazy!?!?!? New England never had a defence! Did you watch football earlier this decade? Not to mention Spygate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    every one knows dilfer won the superbowl as a starting qb for the ravens because of that defense. bottom line is you wont win without a decent defense

    i dont consider roethlisberger an elite qb in the league. he is good but without that d he has no superbowls.

    new england never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl



    Are you crazy!?!?!? New England never had a defence! Did you watch football earlier this decade? Not to mention Spygate.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:13 PM ET #82

    What Peyton has done with the shitty ass defence he has had this whole fucking decade, there is no argument that he is the best.
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    What Peyton has done with the shitty ass defence he has had this whole fucking decade, there is no argument that he is the best.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:14 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:



    Are you crazy!?!?!? New England never had a defence! Did you watch football earlier this decade? Not to mention Spygate.

    ok stop and read. i said they never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl.  good yes. among the all time greats hardly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:



    Are you crazy!?!?!? New England never had a defence! Did you watch football earlier this decade? Not to mention Spygate.

    ok stop and read. i said they never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl.  good yes. among the all time greats hardly.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:22 PM ET #84

    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    every one knows dilfer won the superbowl as a starting qb for the ravens because of that defense. bottom line is you wont win without a decent defense

    i dont consider roethlisberger an elite qb in the league. he is good but without that d he has no superbowls.

    new england never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl

    agree with you mate!!!  pittsburgh won the SB against the seahawks dspite roethlisberger being th qb

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    every one knows dilfer won the superbowl as a starting qb for the ravens because of that defense. bottom line is you wont win without a decent defense

    i dont consider roethlisberger an elite qb in the league. he is good but without that d he has no superbowls.

    new england never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl

    agree with you mate!!!  pittsburgh won the SB against the seahawks dspite roethlisberger being th qb

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:24 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:



    That's fucking right!! Look what Peyton has to deal with, tons of injuries and ZERO running game. PEYTON IS THE BEST!
    Go compare their postseason numbers.

    Manning is 7-8 in the post season with 22 touchdowns and 17 int's

    Brady is 14-3 with 26 Td's and 12 picks

    Brady has never lost a home playoff game while Manning has lost 2 with the ball in his hands and couldn't get his team in the end zone.Against Pitt and San Diego as 10+ point favorites in both games

    Game over goodnight now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:



    That's fucking right!! Look what Peyton has to deal with, tons of injuries and ZERO running game. PEYTON IS THE BEST!
    Go compare their postseason numbers.

    Manning is 7-8 in the post season with 22 touchdowns and 17 int's

    Brady is 14-3 with 26 Td's and 12 picks

    Brady has never lost a home playoff game while Manning has lost 2 with the ball in his hands and couldn't get his team in the end zone.Against Pitt and San Diego as 10+ point favorites in both games

    Game over goodnight now.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:25 PM ET #86

    jay cutler??
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:26 PM ET #87

    Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:

    What Peyton has done with the shitty ass defence he has had this whole fucking decade, there is no argument that he is the best.

    you obviously dont understand this game. the year they won the superbowl bob sanders and dwight freeney were healthy and their defense was outstanding. held the chiefs to 8 points in first round,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:

    What Peyton has done with the shitty ass defence he has had this whole fucking decade, there is no argument that he is the best.

    you obviously dont understand this game. the year they won the superbowl bob sanders and dwight freeney were healthy and their defense was outstanding. held the chiefs to 8 points in first round,

     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:26 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    every one knows dilfer won the superbowl as a starting qb for the ravens because of that defense. bottom line is you wont win without a decent defense

    i dont consider roethlisberger an elite qb in the league. he is good but without that d he has no superbowls.

    new england never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl

    That is what I said. New England was a 14 point dog against the Rams and these clowns are talking about Brady being on the better team.There really is no argument.Brady is by far the best active Qb and one of the all time greats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    every one knows dilfer won the superbowl as a starting qb for the ravens because of that defense. bottom line is you wont win without a decent defense

    i dont consider roethlisberger an elite qb in the league. he is good but without that d he has no superbowls.

    new england never had a defense that carried them to the superbowl

    That is what I said. New England was a 14 point dog against the Rams and these clowns are talking about Brady being on the better team.There really is no argument.Brady is by far the best active Qb and one of the all time greats.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    you obviously dont understand this game. the year they won the superbowl bob sanders and dwight freeney were healthy and their defense was outstanding. held the chiefs to 8 points in first round,



    How was the defence in the AFC Championship?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    you obviously dont understand this game. the year they won the superbowl bob sanders and dwight freeney were healthy and their defense was outstanding. held the chiefs to 8 points in first round,



    How was the defence in the AFC Championship?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:32 PM ET #90

    im sorry... i live in new england. and im a big pats fans. and i think brady is one of the best. but drew breez is the most accuarate in the game right now by far. imagine drew breeze have the o-line like brady has. and imagine drew breeze have moss, welker, watson and the rest of the recievers like brady has. nuff said. breeze is the most accurate qb hands down. give respect when it is due.
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    im sorry... i live in new england. and im a big pats fans. and i think brady is one of the best. but drew breez is the most accuarate in the game right now by far. imagine drew breeze have the o-line like brady has. and imagine drew breeze have moss, welker, watson and the rest of the recievers like brady has. nuff said. breeze is the most accurate qb hands down. give respect when it is due.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:32 PM ET #91

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    Go compare their postseason numbers.

    Manning is 7-8 in the post season with 22 touchdowns and 17 int's

    Brady is 14-3 with 26 Td's and 12 picks

    Brady has never lost a home playoff game while Manning has lost 2 with the ball in his hands and couldn't get his team in the end zone.Against Pitt and San Diego as 10+ point favorites in both games

    Game over goodnight now.


    Great job just looking at stats you tool. Actually watch the games and the fact that a team wins a superbowl not a player. Peyton's recievers dropped key passes in key situations and not to mention their defence couldnt get a stop on 3rd down. The pats won theirs championships by defence, adam vinitieri and SPY GATE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    Go compare their postseason numbers.

    Manning is 7-8 in the post season with 22 touchdowns and 17 int's

    Brady is 14-3 with 26 Td's and 12 picks

    Brady has never lost a home playoff game while Manning has lost 2 with the ball in his hands and couldn't get his team in the end zone.Against Pitt and San Diego as 10+ point favorites in both games

    Game over goodnight now.


    Great job just looking at stats you tool. Actually watch the games and the fact that a team wins a superbowl not a player. Peyton's recievers dropped key passes in key situations and not to mention their defence couldnt get a stop on 3rd down. The pats won theirs championships by defence, adam vinitieri and SPY GATE!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:33 PM ET #92

    Serb go read post 85 again

    Comparing Manning to Brady
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    Serb go read post 85 again

    Comparing Manning to Brady
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:



    Great job just looking at stats you tool. Actually watch the games and the fact that a team wins a superbowl not a player. Peyton's recievers dropped key passes in key situations and not to mention their defence couldnt get a stop on 3rd down. The pats won theirs championships by defence, adam vinitieri and SPY GATE!
    I can't keep arguing with kids.Goodnight get a clue
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    Great job just looking at stats you tool. Actually watch the games and the fact that a team wins a superbowl not a player. Peyton's recievers dropped key passes in key situations and not to mention their defence couldnt get a stop on 3rd down. The pats won theirs championships by defence, adam vinitieri and SPY GATE!
    I can't keep arguing with kids.Goodnight get a clue
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:34 PM ET #94

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    That is what I said. New England was a 14 point dog against the Rams and these clowns are talking about Brady being on the better team.There really is no argument.Brady is by far the best active Qb and one of the all time greats.


    There is no point of arguing with someone so stupid and such a lack of football knowledge. Watch the games before your comment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    That is what I said. New England was a 14 point dog against the Rams and these clowns are talking about Brady being on the better team.There really is no argument.Brady is by far the best active Qb and one of the all time greats.


    There is no point of arguing with someone so stupid and such a lack of football knowledge. Watch the games before your comment.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:35 PM ET #95

    hats off to Jay Cutler
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    hats off to Jay Cutler
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:35 PM ET #96

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    I can't keep arguing with kids.Goodnight get a clue


    WATCH THE FUCKING GAMES YOU TOOL AND THEM COME AND COMMENT BACK!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    I can't keep arguing with kids.Goodnight get a clue


    WATCH THE FUCKING GAMES YOU TOOL AND THEM COME AND COMMENT BACK!!!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:37 PM ET #97

    Keep looking at stats on wikipedia and the box scores of the games.
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    Keep looking at stats on wikipedia and the box scores of the games.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:42 PM ET #98

    Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:



    WATCH THE FUCKING GAMES YOU TOOL AND THEM COME AND COMMENT BACK!!!
    I watch more football then you can imagine.You are clueless and anyone who knows sports knows Brady is the best in the game right now.case closed and just because you post with Caps does not make your statement true.   Ooohh big scary cage fighter posts with caps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Serb89:



    WATCH THE FUCKING GAMES YOU TOOL AND THEM COME AND COMMENT BACK!!!
    I watch more football then you can imagine.You are clueless and anyone who knows sports knows Brady is the best in the game right now.case closed and just because you post with Caps does not make your statement true.   Ooohh big scary cage fighter posts with caps
     
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    Posted: Sep. 14, 2009 - 11:44 PM ET #99

    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    I watch more football then you can imagine.You are clueless and anyone who knows sports knows Brady is the best in the game right now.case closed and just because you post with Caps does not make your statement true.   Ooohh big scary cage fighter posts with caps


    Just shows how ignorant some people are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaBears88:

    I watch more football then you can imagine.You are clueless and anyone who knows sports knows Brady is the best in the game right now.case closed and just because you post with Caps does not make your statement true.   Ooohh big scary cage fighter posts with caps


    Just shows how ignorant some people are.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    you obviously dont understand this game. the year they won the superbowl bob sanders and dwight freeney were healthy and their defense was outstanding. held the chiefs to 8 points in first round,

    dont now how the rest of this got cut off but here goes.

    gave up 6 points to the ravens in the second round. bad game against the patriots (but remember against the best qb in the league) and shut down the bears in the superbowl. you are underrating what their defense did the year they won the superbowl.  and throughout mannings playoff career has come up very small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmb9:

    you obviously dont understand this game. the year they won the superbowl bob sanders and dwight freeney were healthy and their defense was outstanding. held the chiefs to 8 points in first round,

    dont now how the rest of this got cut off but here goes.

    gave up 6 points to the ravens in the second round. bad game against the patriots (but remember against the best qb in the league) and shut down the bears in the superbowl. you are underrating what their defense did the year they won the superbowl.  and throughout mannings playoff career has come up very small.

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