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    *** 4 Unit Play of the Week (3-0 +12 Units) Write Up and Rest of the Card***

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 11:21 PM ET #26

    The way I see it there are two ways New England doesn't win.
     
    1.  The game is fishy like the Steelers game this week.
    2.  Cassel and the patriots really screw up... I.E. a negative turnover ration of 3 or more... with Miami converting at least 2 into touchdowns.
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    The way I see it there are two ways New England doesn't win.
     
    1.  The game is fishy like the Steelers game this week.
    2.  Cassel and the patriots really screw up... I.E. a negative turnover ration of 3 or more... with Miami converting at least 2 into touchdowns.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 11:54 PM ET #27

    Agree and good luck with Pitt, NE and TB.
     
    Be careful with Ariz and SD.
     
    NYG have swagger and return to site of Superbowl.
     
    Recall last game with Big Ben dinking and dunking to Ward and Spaeth in soft zone...Peyton can dink and dunk all night and roll long drives.
     
    Also look at health of Cesaire and Castillo. Loss of Merriman and deficient pass rush has exposed a soft secondary. Indy gets better if Sanders returns. This could be a last-possession-wins type of game.
     
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    Agree and good luck with Pitt, NE and TB.
     
    Be careful with Ariz and SD.
     
    NYG have swagger and return to site of Superbowl.
     
    Recall last game with Big Ben dinking and dunking to Ward and Spaeth in soft zone...Peyton can dink and dunk all night and roll long drives.
     
    Also look at health of Cesaire and Castillo. Loss of Merriman and deficient pass rush has exposed a soft secondary. Indy gets better if Sanders returns. This could be a last-possession-wins type of game.
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 12:06 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by KC_Barney:

    Agree and good luck with Pitt, NE and TB.
     
    Be careful with Ariz and SD.
     
    NYG have swagger and return to site of Superbowl.
     
    Recall last game with Big Ben dinking and dunking to Ward and Spaeth in soft zone...Peyton can dink and dunk all night and roll long drives.
     
    Also look at health of Cesaire and Castillo. Loss of Merriman and deficient pass rush has exposed a soft secondary. Indy gets better if Sanders returns. This could be a last-possession-wins type of game.
     


    KC appreciate the feedback.  I might over think the Giants game because quite frankly it takes balls to fade a mean ass well disciplined team like them who rarely is phased on the road.  That said, alot of guys who know what they are doing and have big money are slamming Zona right now, I think I may have to roll with them.

    As far as the Chargers go, I would recommend to anyone on this board to bet the opposite of what I do on a San Diego game, and I'm serious.  I have been on the wrong side of more Chargers games than any other team by a long shot.  The only times I've banked with them in the last three years was riding them in Primetime at home.  I just can't see the Colts D stopping LT or Sproles, and this is do or die for them.  I am also not forgetting that the Chargers are currently DEAD LAST against the Pass, which obviously doesn't bode well facing Manning.

    Call it a big hunch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC_Barney:

    Agree and good luck with Pitt, NE and TB.
     
    Be careful with Ariz and SD.
     
    NYG have swagger and return to site of Superbowl.
     
    Recall last game with Big Ben dinking and dunking to Ward and Spaeth in soft zone...Peyton can dink and dunk all night and roll long drives.
     
    Also look at health of Cesaire and Castillo. Loss of Merriman and deficient pass rush has exposed a soft secondary. Indy gets better if Sanders returns. This could be a last-possession-wins type of game.
     


    KC appreciate the feedback.  I might over think the Giants game because quite frankly it takes balls to fade a mean ass well disciplined team like them who rarely is phased on the road.  That said, alot of guys who know what they are doing and have big money are slamming Zona right now, I think I may have to roll with them.

    As far as the Chargers go, I would recommend to anyone on this board to bet the opposite of what I do on a San Diego game, and I'm serious.  I have been on the wrong side of more Chargers games than any other team by a long shot.  The only times I've banked with them in the last three years was riding them in Primetime at home.  I just can't see the Colts D stopping LT or Sproles, and this is do or die for them.  I am also not forgetting that the Chargers are currently DEAD LAST against the Pass, which obviously doesn't bode well facing Manning.

    Call it a big hunch.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 12:20 AM ET #29

    can't really say nothing about cincy's defense but, big ben is not as great as he use to be.  his on a down fall and i honestly think leftwich would be a better qb then him at this point. 
     
    Indy needs this win more then any team out there.  they need to prove that they are still superbowl contender by beating this overrated chargers.  yea yea prime time home field adventage thats the only thing its scaring me a little.  peyton manning???? yes peyton manning... his the best qb for this kinda situation.
     
    TB line should DD no doubt. just bc Det had close game against panthers, think books want action on det.  but.. det????? i'll stay away from this one... too fishy.
     
    Definitely agree with you on zona pick. arizona is just too good at home.  whos gon stop boldin, fitzerald, breaston?? especially at home?? i see zona wins here by a field goal or maybe a td.  38-34?? some where around there.
     
    BOL to you bro and hope everyone breaks their books!!!
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    can't really say nothing about cincy's defense but, big ben is not as great as he use to be.  his on a down fall and i honestly think leftwich would be a better qb then him at this point. 
     
    Indy needs this win more then any team out there.  they need to prove that they are still superbowl contender by beating this overrated chargers.  yea yea prime time home field adventage thats the only thing its scaring me a little.  peyton manning???? yes peyton manning... his the best qb for this kinda situation.
     
    TB line should DD no doubt. just bc Det had close game against panthers, think books want action on det.  but.. det????? i'll stay away from this one... too fishy.
     
    Definitely agree with you on zona pick. arizona is just too good at home.  whos gon stop boldin, fitzerald, breaston?? especially at home?? i see zona wins here by a field goal or maybe a td.  38-34?? some where around there.
     
    BOL to you bro and hope everyone breaks their books!!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 12:59 AM ET #30

    Hans good write up dude. Well done. I am completely on board with you on Pitt and NE.
     
    NE coming off a tough loss and factoring in a bit of a revenge factor makes this a good play.
     
     
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    Hans good write up dude. Well done. I am completely on board with you on Pitt and NE.
     
    NE coming off a tough loss and factoring in a bit of a revenge factor makes this a good play.
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 3:06 AM ET #31

    Hans, Pit -10 and NE+2 sounds like a winner. I will be playing those games. Looking foward to more of your write ups.
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    Hans, Pit -10 and NE+2 sounds like a winner. I will be playing those games. Looking foward to more of your write ups.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 12:16 PM ET #32

    Making Arizona an Official Play
     
    Arizona +3.5 (Hook, -120) 2 Units
     
    - Not as much of a write up on this one, I'm siding with the reverse line movement here as it takes alot of steam to remove the hook off of the Giants.  I liked this play from the beginning but was going to wait closer to game time to wait to see if it would hit 4 or if I could buy it up there with little juice but the wise guys have made that impossible and thus I am getting on this while I can.  My book has Zona +3 at +105, in this case I am not fully confident in a straight up win so I thought the hook would be applicable.  Really, -120 is cheap vig for buying the hook on 3.  Conversely, NYG are sitting at -3 with -125 attached.
     
    Factors in Zona's favor:
     
    The Cards are seen purely as an offensive juggernaut but they are only averaging 87 rushing yards per game allowed at home, which is more than respectable and shows they have a semblence of a run defense, which of course is of utter importance vs a smashmouth blitzkreig like the Giants.  Arizona's defense has played respectably if not well for most of the season with the obvious exception of the massive egg they layed against the Jets on the back end of an east coast double header.
     
    - I won't pretend the Cards have played the 85 Bears at home this year but they are averaging 33 points per game while the Giants Defense allows almost a touchdown more per game on the road than at home.  This is also the Giants' first long road trip of the year and I'm banking that Eli will make enough mistakes to allow Warner and company to keep it close with their offense.  Arizona is outscoring opponents by almost two touchdowns, including a win over a Dallas team that at the time was still running on most cylinders.
     
    Moose Factors:
     
    - Of course there is a landmine of them here.  The Giants are looking like the 3rd Reich rolling through Belgum the way they are physically manhandling teams up front and with their running game.  I am very nervous about Warner versus their pass rush and am banking that Boldin and Fitzgerald will make some tough catches in traffic and get early seperation on the line as Warner is going to be pressured often.
     
    - Its tough to go against the Gints here but I'm banking on a less than stellar performance from Eli and the Cards secondary can be ball-hawking when they decide to be and hopefully we can get a few picks here.
     
    Bottom Line:
     
    I think the Giants are due for a small let down and have played some extremely physical teams lately (who I admit they have out-physicaled - and yes, that is probably a horrible Madden like shredding of a made up word).    The Cardinals can score quickly and have several deep play threats that can turn a game around in a flash.  The biggest key will be whether their run defense remains stout at home, if not, Arizona is in big trouble.
     
    GL
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    Making Arizona an Official Play
     
    Arizona +3.5 (Hook, -120) 2 Units
     
    - Not as much of a write up on this one, I'm siding with the reverse line movement here as it takes alot of steam to remove the hook off of the Giants.  I liked this play from the beginning but was going to wait closer to game time to wait to see if it would hit 4 or if I could buy it up there with little juice but the wise guys have made that impossible and thus I am getting on this while I can.  My book has Zona +3 at +105, in this case I am not fully confident in a straight up win so I thought the hook would be applicable.  Really, -120 is cheap vig for buying the hook on 3.  Conversely, NYG are sitting at -3 with -125 attached.
     
    Factors in Zona's favor:
     
    The Cards are seen purely as an offensive juggernaut but they are only averaging 87 rushing yards per game allowed at home, which is more than respectable and shows they have a semblence of a run defense, which of course is of utter importance vs a smashmouth blitzkreig like the Giants.  Arizona's defense has played respectably if not well for most of the season with the obvious exception of the massive egg they layed against the Jets on the back end of an east coast double header.
     
    - I won't pretend the Cards have played the 85 Bears at home this year but they are averaging 33 points per game while the Giants Defense allows almost a touchdown more per game on the road than at home.  This is also the Giants' first long road trip of the year and I'm banking that Eli will make enough mistakes to allow Warner and company to keep it close with their offense.  Arizona is outscoring opponents by almost two touchdowns, including a win over a Dallas team that at the time was still running on most cylinders.
     
    Moose Factors:
     
    - Of course there is a landmine of them here.  The Giants are looking like the 3rd Reich rolling through Belgum the way they are physically manhandling teams up front and with their running game.  I am very nervous about Warner versus their pass rush and am banking that Boldin and Fitzgerald will make some tough catches in traffic and get early seperation on the line as Warner is going to be pressured often.
     
    - Its tough to go against the Gints here but I'm banking on a less than stellar performance from Eli and the Cards secondary can be ball-hawking when they decide to be and hopefully we can get a few picks here.
     
    Bottom Line:
     
    I think the Giants are due for a small let down and have played some extremely physical teams lately (who I admit they have out-physicaled - and yes, that is probably a horrible Madden like shredding of a made up word).    The Cardinals can score quickly and have several deep play threats that can turn a game around in a flash.  The biggest key will be whether their run defense remains stout at home, if not, Arizona is in big trouble.
     
    GL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 2:20 PM ET #33

     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 4:03 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by BigHans:

    Adding a play for Thursday.
     
    Play:
     
    Pittsburgh -10 (hook) over Cincy
    (My hook rule on this number is non-negotiable for me)
     
    Anybody that has read any of my write ups can tell that while I post a few stats they rarely are the complete basis of my play.
     
    There is one stat here that is clearly against me, and that is the 1-15 ATS record of double digit chalks. .  I keep trying to buck this thinking it will break, and I'm going to try it again.
     
    Statistical Reasons:  There are several stats here in Pitts favor, big time:  Pitt has won the last ten meetings by an average of 28-17, and that was with a good Cincy offense.  Steelers are 7-2-1 ATS in the last ten meetings.  Cincy is getting beat by an average of 12 points per game on the road this year.  Pitt is statistically the best defense in the game while Cincy averages an amazingly bad 238 yards per game on the road.  I could go on and on for ages here but you get the point. 
     
    The Real Reasons:
     
    - Short, Sweet and Simple.  Cincy has absolutely zero chance of running the ball in this game, as they only average 83 yards a game on the ground while Pitt only gives up 68, which means the entire load is going to fall on Ryan Fitzpatrick against an elite secondary and blitz-kreig like pass rush.  Dick LaBeau vs Ryan Fitzpatrick?  MISMATCH. 
     
    - On the other side, the Bengals run defense is a siev giving up almost 150 yards per game on the ground on the road, while Pitt averages almost 150 at home.  Pitts achilles heal this year has been their porous pass protection but Cincy has not exactly impressed with their pass rush.  Roethlisburger should have ample time to pick apart this defense, especially on play action deep balls since the Bengals cannot stop the run and will get easily sucked in.
     
    - Night game in a hostile environment in a blood thirsty rivalry.  I think the Steelers are still reeling about Cincy bragging about beating them once two years ago.  Pittsburgh is by far the stronger, faster, more physical, well coached team.  I could go on for days at how this is an enormous mismatch.
     
    Say it with me one more time: Ryan Fitzpatrick on the road staring into the teeth of Harrison, Foote, Hampton, Taylor, Polamolu, etc, etc, etc. 
     
    That said, I am only going one unit in until this double digit ATS chalk trend breaks.
     
    GL
     
     

    Big Hans, I love reading your writeups. This is what this board should be about. Quality writeups to back your reason behind betting a team. Not this crap I see sometimes "Lock of the Centruy" and then I open the thread and someone just says their pick. I am with you on NE. I live in NE and I have been waiting for this payback game all year. The only game that looked better to bet on all year for me so far was NE- 3 at home to Buffalo without Whitner or Schobel. New England ended up winning 20-3 and easily covered. I have watched every Patriots game for the past 7 to 8 years and I feel like I am more familar with their personnel, play calling, and style then any team in the league. I love NE in this situation. I have watched Miami play the last 2 weeks and I can tell you this offense sucks. The Seymour-Warren-Wilfork DL should be able to handle Miami's improved OL very well and NE's linebackers are getting better every week. Jerod Mayo had 20 tackles last week and should NFL Rookie of the Year. Gary Guyton is also very solid and is great at defending backs like Williams and Brown in the flats. Pierre Woods is now playing for Adalius and he had 10 tackles and a sack last week and looked solid. He is a good player vs the run but he doesn't have that sideline to sideline speed or the pass rush ability of a Thomas. New England is going to make Pennington beat them and I simply don't see him being able too. The Dolphins love to dink and dunk but NE will be ready for it and they are excellent at tackling and wrapping up in space. Matt Cassel is getting better every week and I expect him to shred this overrated Dolphins secondary. The Pats OL is also jelling as a unit each and every game. The past 3 games have been great as Cassel has only been sacked once or twice despite the fact we played Indy, Buffalo, and NY. Matt Light really handled Freeney well vs Indy. Ne should be able to run the ball somewhat effectively as well with Sammy Morris back to compliment Green-Ellis and Faulk.This team simply doesn't have the athletes to cover Moss, Welker, or Gaffney. NE looks good here.

    I like the Pitt writeup as well and I am with you there. Cinci does nothing well. They can't run or stop the run. They don't throw the ball well and they can't stop the pass because they have no pass rush. Pitt should win this one by 14 to 17 but weather could play a factor.

     

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    Adding a play for Thursday.
     
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    Pittsburgh -10 (hook) over Cincy
    (My hook rule on this number is non-negotiable for me)
     
    Anybody that has read any of my write ups can tell that while I post a few stats they rarely are the complete basis of my play.
     
    There is one stat here that is clearly against me, and that is the 1-15 ATS record of double digit chalks. .  I keep trying to buck this thinking it will break, and I'm going to try it again.
     
    Statistical Reasons:  There are several stats here in Pitts favor, big time:  Pitt has won the last ten meetings by an average of 28-17, and that was with a good Cincy offense.  Steelers are 7-2-1 ATS in the last ten meetings.  Cincy is getting beat by an average of 12 points per game on the road this year.  Pitt is statistically the best defense in the game while Cincy averages an amazingly bad 238 yards per game on the road.  I could go on and on for ages here but you get the point. 
     
    The Real Reasons:
     
    - Short, Sweet and Simple.  Cincy has absolutely zero chance of running the ball in this game, as they only average 83 yards a game on the ground while Pitt only gives up 68, which means the entire load is going to fall on Ryan Fitzpatrick against an elite secondary and blitz-kreig like pass rush.  Dick LaBeau vs Ryan Fitzpatrick?  MISMATCH. 
     
    - On the other side, the Bengals run defense is a siev giving up almost 150 yards per game on the ground on the road, while Pitt averages almost 150 at home.  Pitts achilles heal this year has been their porous pass protection but Cincy has not exactly impressed with their pass rush.  Roethlisburger should have ample time to pick apart this defense, especially on play action deep balls since the Bengals cannot stop the run and will get easily sucked in.
     
    - Night game in a hostile environment in a blood thirsty rivalry.  I think the Steelers are still reeling about Cincy bragging about beating them once two years ago.  Pittsburgh is by far the stronger, faster, more physical, well coached team.  I could go on for days at how this is an enormous mismatch.
     
    Say it with me one more time: Ryan Fitzpatrick on the road staring into the teeth of Harrison, Foote, Hampton, Taylor, Polamolu, etc, etc, etc. 
     
    That said, I am only going one unit in until this double digit ATS chalk trend breaks.
     
    GL
     
     

    Big Hans, I love reading your writeups. This is what this board should be about. Quality writeups to back your reason behind betting a team. Not this crap I see sometimes "Lock of the Centruy" and then I open the thread and someone just says their pick. I am with you on NE. I live in NE and I have been waiting for this payback game all year. The only game that looked better to bet on all year for me so far was NE- 3 at home to Buffalo without Whitner or Schobel. New England ended up winning 20-3 and easily covered. I have watched every Patriots game for the past 7 to 8 years and I feel like I am more familar with their personnel, play calling, and style then any team in the league. I love NE in this situation. I have watched Miami play the last 2 weeks and I can tell you this offense sucks. The Seymour-Warren-Wilfork DL should be able to handle Miami's improved OL very well and NE's linebackers are getting better every week. Jerod Mayo had 20 tackles last week and should NFL Rookie of the Year. Gary Guyton is also very solid and is great at defending backs like Williams and Brown in the flats. Pierre Woods is now playing for Adalius and he had 10 tackles and a sack last week and looked solid. He is a good player vs the run but he doesn't have that sideline to sideline speed or the pass rush ability of a Thomas. New England is going to make Pennington beat them and I simply don't see him being able too. The Dolphins love to dink and dunk but NE will be ready for it and they are excellent at tackling and wrapping up in space. Matt Cassel is getting better every week and I expect him to shred this overrated Dolphins secondary. The Pats OL is also jelling as a unit each and every game. The past 3 games have been great as Cassel has only been sacked once or twice despite the fact we played Indy, Buffalo, and NY. Matt Light really handled Freeney well vs Indy. Ne should be able to run the ball somewhat effectively as well with Sammy Morris back to compliment Green-Ellis and Faulk.This team simply doesn't have the athletes to cover Moss, Welker, or Gaffney. NE looks good here.

    I like the Pitt writeup as well and I am with you there. Cinci does nothing well. They can't run or stop the run. They don't throw the ball well and they can't stop the pass because they have no pass rush. Pitt should win this one by 14 to 17 but weather could play a factor.

     

     
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    Adding a Play, playing this now because the line dropped to where I wanted it to.
     
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    San Diego -2.5 Over Indy (NOTE: FADE THIS PICK)
     
    - I'm not trying to confuse anyone here.  I am being forthright that I completley and absolutely suck at picking Chargers games.  The lay an egg when I play them, they absolutely blow up when I fade them.  This has been going on for three years.  I truely, utterly, and abhorently despise this team.  I loathe them with every fiber of my being, and they are not a rival of my favorite team.  Remember when they set an NFL record for coming back from a 17 point deficit in back to back weeks?  Yep, was against them both times.  NE this year?  Faded them .  Vs Saints this year?  Was on them and they got routed, I dont care what the score was.  Against Chiefs coming off a bye?  Burn.  I didnt even lay the chalk, I had a big 10 point teaser.  Nice defense you bastards.  Oh, forgot about the little last minute TD they gave up to Carolina when I was in Vegas and had a massive 2 team teaser with them and Dallas that got moosed in a matter of seconds.  Hate. the. Chargers.
     
    ANYway, I have won exactly one game with SD this year, and that was when they took the Jets to the woodshed.  I have made it a policy to never fade them at home in a primetime game unless the line is absolutely ridicilous.
     
    In this case, the Colts have a big statistical edge in one important factor:  The Charges are DEAD LAST against the Pats and they are facing Manning.  This is also a revenge spot for the Colts.  My first instinct was to pick the Colts which is exactly why I am taking San Diego.
     
    I'm not going to get into a big handicapping post on this one.  The Chargers are indeed averaging 30+ per game at home, and have won their two prime time games by an average of 20 points, and neither game was as close as the score indicated.
     
    - One thing I mentioned earlier that I do like here is their record differentials.  The Chargers got completley hosed in Denver and although they wouldnt have deserved the win they should have defeated Carolina.  The Colts had a miracle win vs Houston and got lucky as hell vs Minnesota or else they wouldve started 0-4.  Talent wise these teams are even and I am going with the home juggernaut.
     
    - Although the Chargers have a top 5 worst coach in the league, and I am being generous, they are not out of the playoff picture as they play in a joke of a division and are only two games back of Denver with a chance to play them again.  The Colts on the other hand have no chance of winning the division but Manning will never tank this game so motivational factor is even.
     
    Ok, enough trying to justify it.  I'm taking San Diego and I advise you to fade it.  (Can you tell I'm a little bitter?)
     
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    Adding a Play, playing this now because the line dropped to where I wanted it to.
     
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    San Diego -2.5 Over Indy (NOTE: FADE THIS PICK)
     
    - I'm not trying to confuse anyone here.  I am being forthright that I completley and absolutely suck at picking Chargers games.  The lay an egg when I play them, they absolutely blow up when I fade them.  This has been going on for three years.  I truely, utterly, and abhorently despise this team.  I loathe them with every fiber of my being, and they are not a rival of my favorite team.  Remember when they set an NFL record for coming back from a 17 point deficit in back to back weeks?  Yep, was against them both times.  NE this year?  Faded them .  Vs Saints this year?  Was on them and they got routed, I dont care what the score was.  Against Chiefs coming off a bye?  Burn.  I didnt even lay the chalk, I had a big 10 point teaser.  Nice defense you bastards.  Oh, forgot about the little last minute TD they gave up to Carolina when I was in Vegas and had a massive 2 team teaser with them and Dallas that got moosed in a matter of seconds.  Hate. the. Chargers.
     
    ANYway, I have won exactly one game with SD this year, and that was when they took the Jets to the woodshed.  I have made it a policy to never fade them at home in a primetime game unless the line is absolutely ridicilous.
     
    In this case, the Colts have a big statistical edge in one important factor:  The Charges are DEAD LAST against the Pats and they are facing Manning.  This is also a revenge spot for the Colts.  My first instinct was to pick the Colts which is exactly why I am taking San Diego.
     
    I'm not going to get into a big handicapping post on this one.  The Chargers are indeed averaging 30+ per game at home, and have won their two prime time games by an average of 20 points, and neither game was as close as the score indicated.
     
    - One thing I mentioned earlier that I do like here is their record differentials.  The Chargers got completley hosed in Denver and although they wouldnt have deserved the win they should have defeated Carolina.  The Colts had a miracle win vs Houston and got lucky as hell vs Minnesota or else they wouldve started 0-4.  Talent wise these teams are even and I am going with the home juggernaut.
     
    - Although the Chargers have a top 5 worst coach in the league, and I am being generous, they are not out of the playoff picture as they play in a joke of a division and are only two games back of Denver with a chance to play them again.  The Colts on the other hand have no chance of winning the division but Manning will never tank this game so motivational factor is even.
     
    Ok, enough trying to justify it.  I'm taking San Diego and I advise you to fade it.  (Can you tell I'm a little bitter?)
     
    GL
     
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    Big Shot Bill,
     
    Appreciate it.  GL to your Pats this weekend my friend.
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    Appreciate it.  GL to your Pats this weekend my friend.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 19, 2008 - 4:38 PM ET #37

    Hey Hans,
      Does the possibility of B Jacobs being out or atleast not 100% vs the Cards make your play more valuable?
    Thinking of taking Cards moneyline
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    Hey Hans,
      Does the possibility of B Jacobs being out or atleast not 100% vs the Cards make your play more valuable?
    Thinking of taking Cards moneyline
     
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    TX
     
    Thought about it but didnt have the cajones.  I'm not sure about Jacob's injury status but the Giants can still run it without him, albeit probably less effectively.
     
    My play is centered around the Cards offense being able to keep it close.  I played the Browns moneyline vs the Giants but it was pretty much more a "what the hell" bet than anything.  Its tough to pick a team that has won over 16 out of their last 17 to lose straight up.
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    Thought about it but didnt have the cajones.  I'm not sure about Jacob's injury status but the Giants can still run it without him, albeit probably less effectively.
     
    My play is centered around the Cards offense being able to keep it close.  I played the Browns moneyline vs the Giants but it was pretty much more a "what the hell" bet than anything.  Its tough to pick a team that has won over 16 out of their last 17 to lose straight up.
     
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    Edit: theyve won 13 out of 14.
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    Your right, I might just roll the dice on this one.. G men do have though division games coming up, I hope this weekenend they dont show up in the desert.
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    Your right, I might just roll the dice on this one.. G men do have though division games coming up, I hope this weekenend they dont show up in the desert.
    BOL
     
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    Explain  Lean, money line, and hook
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    like the pats and pitt games have a strong play on the jets this also..bol sir.............
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    like the pats and pitt games have a strong play on the jets this also..bol sir.............
     
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    Bengals are beat up on the offensive line. Rookie left tackle making his first start. Journeyman left guard. Fitzpatrick will be running for his life all night. Steelers will score early, and then pound the rock, a formula that always has beaten the Bengals in this matchup. Bengals will be lucky to score. 24-3 Steelers
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    Mr.Hans your write-ups are superb! But I have to agree with JBell13 that the Giants are just far sperior! With the pressure Warner's going to face I can see turnovers playing a major part in this game. Cards come tumbling down!
     
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    Mr.Hans your write-ups are superb! But I have to agree with JBell13 that the Giants are just far sperior! With the pressure Warner's going to face I can see turnovers playing a major part in this game. Cards come tumbling down!
     
    BOL this wknd!
     
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     "I have been on the wrong side of more Chargers games than any other team by a long shot." - BH

    My man, so have I.  so have I.  New Orleans two.  they're the teams that always fuck me up...specifically when I bet on them.

    I took the Gints (-3), by the way.  Put it in Tues mid morning, before any of this, but still like them regardless.  Everything you're saying about Zona holds true, though, and I do like them.  Being from Phily, and a huge Eagles fan, I hate the Gints, but even when they played Philly recently I laid $$$$ on them.  Just too good a team in too good a division.  The Gints have beaten better teams than AZ.  But we'll see.  That's why they play the games.
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     "I have been on the wrong side of more Chargers games than any other team by a long shot." - BH

    My man, so have I.  so have I.  New Orleans two.  they're the teams that always fuck me up...specifically when I bet on them.

    I took the Gints (-3), by the way.  Put it in Tues mid morning, before any of this, but still like them regardless.  Everything you're saying about Zona holds true, though, and I do like them.  Being from Phily, and a huge Eagles fan, I hate the Gints, but even when they played Philly recently I laid $$$$ on them.  Just too good a team in too good a division.  The Gints have beaten better teams than AZ.  But we'll see.  That's why they play the games.
     
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    JBell I agree and think the NYG are the best team in the league hands down.  We'll see how it plays out, gonna take Zona's best effort.
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    hans great posts, love hearing the reasoning
    NE looks to be the strongest play I got it at +2 Would have still taken it at pk
    If bob sanders plays I would hesitate to play SD
    I would love to bet against the rams again this week with no S Jackson and I think STL couldnt win in NCAA this week but +9 to da bears
    It was painful watching the bears "game" last week and to put $ on them?
    Pitt is dominant in the division expecually against Cinci and cleve
     
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    hans great posts, love hearing the reasoning
    NE looks to be the strongest play I got it at +2 Would have still taken it at pk
    If bob sanders plays I would hesitate to play SD
    I would love to bet against the rams again this week with no S Jackson and I think STL couldnt win in NCAA this week but +9 to da bears
    It was painful watching the bears "game" last week and to put $ on them?
    Pitt is dominant in the division expecually against Cinci and cleve
     
     
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    but the double digit favorite curse scares me
     
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    Hear ya on Sanders Leroy.  As I posted above I know nothing about the Chargers, I must, because they moose me almost every single time.  As far as the Bears Rams game goes, thats one of my "I Wouldnt Touch her with you dick" games.  I cant back the Rams anymore and I am certainly not laying near Double Digit Chalk on Kyle Orton.  Definetly a no play.  I can't even think of a teaser scenario I like cause it could be a Bears blowout or a Bears collapse.


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    Hear ya on Sanders Leroy.  As I posted above I know nothing about the Chargers, I must, because they moose me almost every single time.  As far as the Bears Rams game goes, thats one of my "I Wouldnt Touch her with you dick" games.  I cant back the Rams anymore and I am certainly not laying near Double Digit Chalk on Kyle Orton.  Definetly a no play.  I can't even think of a teaser scenario I like cause it could be a Bears blowout or a Bears collapse.


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