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    *** 4 Unit Play of the Week (3-0 +12 Units) Write Up and Rest of the Card***

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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 10:21 AM ET #1

    Well week 11 is over.  I am thankful for being able to pull 4 units of profit out as it was a toughest card of the year so far.  I pretty much broke even with the majority of my plays and thankfully hit my big play on the Bucs for the third week in a row to avoid a losing week,

     

    I like this one a little better, and as is usual one line jumped out at me almost immediately.  I don't expect any originality points on this one as a few others on this board are already on it, but this is a game that I and probably many others circled two months ago.  On September 21st, 2008 to be exact.

     

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    New England +2 Over Miami (4 Units)

     

     

    Statistically both teams are eerily similar.  Both are 6-4 SU and 5-5 ATS.  NE scores an average of 21.9 while Miami chalks 20.9, and both defenses allow 19.4 and 19.7 PPG respectively.  From a total yardage gained and allowed stanpoint both teams are only 7 yards off in either direction for each category.  NE defense has actually performed better on the road this year yardage and PPG wise (largely due to last week's game and what occured on September 21st.)

     

    So, now that we have established that there is no real statistical edge in either direction, we can get to the numbers and situations that matter.

     

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    Well week 11 is over.  I am thankful for being able to pull 4 units of profit out as it was a toughest card of the year so far.  I pretty much broke even with the majority of my plays and thankfully hit my big play on the Bucs for the third week in a row to avoid a losing week,

     

    I like this one a little better, and as is usual one line jumped out at me almost immediately.  I don't expect any originality points on this one as a few others on this board are already on it, but this is a game that I and probably many others circled two months ago.  On September 21st, 2008 to be exact.

     

    Play:

     

    New England +2 Over Miami (4 Units)

     

     

    Statistically both teams are eerily similar.  Both are 6-4 SU and 5-5 ATS.  NE scores an average of 21.9 while Miami chalks 20.9, and both defenses allow 19.4 and 19.7 PPG respectively.  From a total yardage gained and allowed stanpoint both teams are only 7 yards off in either direction for each category.  NE defense has actually performed better on the road this year yardage and PPG wise (largely due to last week's game and what occured on September 21st.)

     

    So, now that we have established that there is no real statistical edge in either direction, we can get to the numbers and situations that matter.

     

     
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    1. September 18th, 2008.  Miami Dolphins 38, NE Patriots 13.

     

    2. And instead of explaining how Belichick does after a loss, here is a nice copy and paste job, with the caveat that OF COURSE Tom Brady was playing in most of these games:

     

    ·  Patriots are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games following a ATS loss.

    ·  Patriots are 7-1 ATS in their last 8 games after allowing more than 30 points in their previous game.

    ·  Patriots are 17-4-1 ATS in their last 22 games following a S.U. loss.

    ·  Patriots are 8-3 ATS in their last 11 road games vs. a team with a winning home record.

     

    Relavent Points and Thoughts:

     

    1. I am far from a Belichick fan.  I'm pretty much convinced the guy is dirty, and for everyone and their brother who isn't a Pats fan, quite frankly their dominance from 2007-08 with a couple of exceptions was getting pretty damn old.  If I wasn't playing this game I would root openly for Miami to essentially take a two game lead over NE in the East and put a serious hamper on NE's playoff hopes.  That said, I have always feared and respected Belichick, who regardless of whether he is a cheater or not is probably the smartest coach in the game, and this situation sets up perfectly for a big Patriots win if you account for every historical element of his tenure at New England.

     

    2. Miami's 38-13 blowout win was one of the few times when a Belichick coached team got completly outcoached and out-schemed.  It was an absolute embarrassment for NE to get routed at home by what was at the time a gimmick formation that they never saw coming and had absolutely no answer for (The Wild Cat).  Never mind the fact that NE was a 13 point home chalk and was blown out of the building by a team that was 1-17 in their last 18 regular season games.  This was a major, major blow to the ego of a man whose id, ego, and superego could probably block out the sun and can surely be seen from space.

     

    3. Anyone that doesn't believe that Belichick isn't a huge revenge guy can guess again.  This was on full display last year as they were openly running up scores on hapless opponents early in the year which I believe was a direct response and a f*ck you to the rest of the league for the Spy Gate scandal.  This may set up to be the biggest revenge game for Belichick in recent history, until of course, they play the Giants again with Brady at the helm.

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    1. September 18th, 2008.  Miami Dolphins 38, NE Patriots 13.

     

    2. And instead of explaining how Belichick does after a loss, here is a nice copy and paste job, with the caveat that OF COURSE Tom Brady was playing in most of these games:

     

    ·  Patriots are 4-0 ATS in their last 4 games following a ATS loss.

    ·  Patriots are 7-1 ATS in their last 8 games after allowing more than 30 points in their previous game.

    ·  Patriots are 17-4-1 ATS in their last 22 games following a S.U. loss.

    ·  Patriots are 8-3 ATS in their last 11 road games vs. a team with a winning home record.

     

    Relavent Points and Thoughts:

     

    1. I am far from a Belichick fan.  I'm pretty much convinced the guy is dirty, and for everyone and their brother who isn't a Pats fan, quite frankly their dominance from 2007-08 with a couple of exceptions was getting pretty damn old.  If I wasn't playing this game I would root openly for Miami to essentially take a two game lead over NE in the East and put a serious hamper on NE's playoff hopes.  That said, I have always feared and respected Belichick, who regardless of whether he is a cheater or not is probably the smartest coach in the game, and this situation sets up perfectly for a big Patriots win if you account for every historical element of his tenure at New England.

     

    2. Miami's 38-13 blowout win was one of the few times when a Belichick coached team got completly outcoached and out-schemed.  It was an absolute embarrassment for NE to get routed at home by what was at the time a gimmick formation that they never saw coming and had absolutely no answer for (The Wild Cat).  Never mind the fact that NE was a 13 point home chalk and was blown out of the building by a team that was 1-17 in their last 18 regular season games.  This was a major, major blow to the ego of a man whose id, ego, and superego could probably block out the sun and can surely be seen from space.

     

    3. Anyone that doesn't believe that Belichick isn't a huge revenge guy can guess again.  This was on full display last year as they were openly running up scores on hapless opponents early in the year which I believe was a direct response and a f*ck you to the rest of the league for the Spy Gate scandal.  This may set up to be the biggest revenge game for Belichick in recent history, until of course, they play the Giants again with Brady at the helm.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 10:22 AM ET #3

    4. Miami for their own right has been a pleasant surprise starting 6-4 and defying almost every expectation.  They have a tough minded coaching staff and front office and it is showing in their play, grinding out gritty, razor close games and not killing themselves with mistakes.  That said, they almost lost straight up to two terrible teams (Seattle and Oakland) at home while having  the major advantage of catching those teams in bad body clock situations.  You can maybe chalk the Oakland game up to a look ahead to New England but they have only defeated one team soundly all year, and we all know who that was.

     

    Potential Moose Factors:

     

    1. I realize that this screams square play as everyone and their brother will be loading up on NE when they see the Pats are actually catching points versus the Dolphins.  Most of the public probably hasn't even seen the line yet and it opened at +3 and quickly got pounded to +1-+2, depending on where you look.  I wouldn't be surprised to see NE favored by game time so it may be advantageous to bet this now.

     

    2. Adaleus Thomas getting hurt is a big blow to NE's defense, and stopping the wild cat will be more difficult without him.

     

    3. Cassel hasn't exactly played with sheer and unadulterated brilliance on the road, and the Pats are indeed starting an undrafted practice squad player named BenJarvis Greene Ellis at tailback (granted, he has impressed so far).

     

    4. Miami has an elite corner in Will Allen who may be able to neutralize Moss.  Welker will have to have a big day, and somebody is going to have to account for Joey Porter, because the man is playing like a rabid demon and has been blowing people up lately.

     

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    4. Miami for their own right has been a pleasant surprise starting 6-4 and defying almost every expectation.  They have a tough minded coaching staff and front office and it is showing in their play, grinding out gritty, razor close games and not killing themselves with mistakes.  That said, they almost lost straight up to two terrible teams (Seattle and Oakland) at home while having  the major advantage of catching those teams in bad body clock situations.  You can maybe chalk the Oakland game up to a look ahead to New England but they have only defeated one team soundly all year, and we all know who that was.

     

    Potential Moose Factors:

     

    1. I realize that this screams square play as everyone and their brother will be loading up on NE when they see the Pats are actually catching points versus the Dolphins.  Most of the public probably hasn't even seen the line yet and it opened at +3 and quickly got pounded to +1-+2, depending on where you look.  I wouldn't be surprised to see NE favored by game time so it may be advantageous to bet this now.

     

    2. Adaleus Thomas getting hurt is a big blow to NE's defense, and stopping the wild cat will be more difficult without him.

     

    3. Cassel hasn't exactly played with sheer and unadulterated brilliance on the road, and the Pats are indeed starting an undrafted practice squad player named BenJarvis Greene Ellis at tailback (granted, he has impressed so far).

     

    4. Miami has an elite corner in Will Allen who may be able to neutralize Moss.  Welker will have to have a big day, and somebody is going to have to account for Joey Porter, because the man is playing like a rabid demon and has been blowing people up lately.

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 10:22 AM ET #4

    Bottom Line:

     

    - I believe that Belichick WILL have an answer for the wild cat, which will force Pennington to beat them, which if he does, I will tip my hat to him and take the loss like a man.  I don't see it happening as I believe the wildcat bruised Belichick's ego so much that he has been preparing for this game for the last two months.

     

    - Cassel has been rounding into form and playing much better of late.  He has 7 more starts under his belt than the last time he played and is clearly playing with more confidence and gelling with the offense in a more cohesive manner.

     

    - The Pats have an extra two days of rest and preperation for this game and I believe that combined with the revenge factor,  the fact that Belichick absolutely will not get out-schemed again, NE's history of coming off a loss, the importance of this game to NE's playoff hopes, and that the talent level on the Pats is still higher than Miami all of these factors combined will lead to a ten point victory for NE.

     

    NE 24-14

     

    Best of Luck.

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    - I believe that Belichick WILL have an answer for the wild cat, which will force Pennington to beat them, which if he does, I will tip my hat to him and take the loss like a man.  I don't see it happening as I believe the wildcat bruised Belichick's ego so much that he has been preparing for this game for the last two months.

     

    - Cassel has been rounding into form and playing much better of late.  He has 7 more starts under his belt than the last time he played and is clearly playing with more confidence and gelling with the offense in a more cohesive manner.

     

    - The Pats have an extra two days of rest and preperation for this game and I believe that combined with the revenge factor,  the fact that Belichick absolutely will not get out-schemed again, NE's history of coming off a loss, the importance of this game to NE's playoff hopes, and that the talent level on the Pats is still higher than Miami all of these factors combined will lead to a ten point victory for NE.

     

    NE 24-14

     

    Best of Luck.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 10:39 AM ET #5

    I like it, a lot.
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 10:42 AM ET #6

    I like NE this week.  I think the public is jumping off NE bandwagon, so I expect a lot of people to jump on MIA as well.  NE was not ready for the wildcat the first game, they WILL be ready this game.
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    I like NE this week.  I think the public is jumping off NE bandwagon, so I expect a lot of people to jump on MIA as well.  NE was not ready for the wildcat the first game, they WILL be ready this game.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 11:16 AM ET #7

    On board, hoss.  WAR PATS!
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    On board, hoss.  WAR PATS!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 11:22 AM ET #8

    Just a Fantastic Post....
    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 1:17 PM ET #9

    great info... revenge is sweet...........
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    great info... revenge is sweet...........
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 1:19 PM ET #10

    I know my Dolphins very well and I couldnt agree more unfortunetly.   Oh man a win would be so huge for the Miami franchise  but  Bellicheat remembers the 38-13 week 3 blowout in foxboro, and has had 11 days to prepare.  Pats are a tremendous bet on Sunday, I will just be hoping and cheering my Dolphins on however.

     

    GO Fins

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    I know my Dolphins very well and I couldnt agree more unfortunetly.   Oh man a win would be so huge for the Miami franchise  but  Bellicheat remembers the 38-13 week 3 blowout in foxboro, and has had 11 days to prepare.  Pats are a tremendous bet on Sunday, I will just be hoping and cheering my Dolphins on however.

     

    GO Fins

     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 2:09 PM ET #11

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    College I'm glad that a Fins fan agrees with me.
     
    I'm liking this card, might have a few unorthodox plays this week.
     
    I was hoping to get Dallas under 10, I wouldve unloaded on that.  Have to think a little more on that one.
     
    Arizona is looking like a potential play.
     
    Some big road chalks and its amazing how fast Denver is a double digit chalk again.
     
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    College I'm glad that a Fins fan agrees with me.
     
    I'm liking this card, might have a few unorthodox plays this week.
     
    I was hoping to get Dallas under 10, I wouldve unloaded on that.  Have to think a little more on that one.
     
    Arizona is looking like a potential play.
     
    Some big road chalks and its amazing how fast Denver is a double digit chalk again.
     
    Back with more later.
     
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    I am a huge Miami fan, but I really can't disagree with anything you are saying. I think you have this game pegged perfectly.
    Great post.
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    I am a huge Miami fan, but I really can't disagree with anything you are saying. I think you have this game pegged perfectly.
    Great post.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 2:48 PM ET #13

    just gotta love reading your write ups bro.  i'll be looking into that game real carefully and hope to see your write ups on and on.  BOL!!
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    just gotta love reading your write ups bro.  i'll be looking into that game real carefully and hope to see your write ups on and on.  BOL!!
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 3:24 PM ET #14

    This is what this website is all about ... thank you.  Well written and handicapped! 
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    This is what this website is all about ... thank you.  Well written and handicapped! 
     
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    Adding a play for Thursday.
     
    Play:
     
    Pittsburgh -10 (hook) over Cincy
    (My hook rule on this number is non-negotiable for me)
     
    Anybody that has read any of my write ups can tell that while I post a few stats they rarely are the complete basis of my play.
     
    There is one stat here that is clearly against me, and that is the 1-15 ATS record of double digit chalks. .  I keep trying to buck this thinking it will break, and I'm going to try it again.
     
    Statistical Reasons:  There are several stats here in Pitts favor, big time:  Pitt has won the last ten meetings by an average of 28-17, and that was with a good Cincy offense.  Steelers are 7-2-1 ATS in the last ten meetings.  Cincy is getting beat by an average of 12 points per game on the road this year.  Pitt is statistically the best defense in the game while Cincy averages an amazingly bad 238 yards per game on the road.  I could go on and on for ages here but you get the point. 
     
    The Real Reasons:
     
    - Short, Sweet and Simple.  Cincy has absolutely zero chance of running the ball in this game, as they only average 83 yards a game on the ground while Pitt only gives up 68, which means the entire load is going to fall on Ryan Fitzpatrick against an elite secondary and blitz-kreig like pass rush.  Dick LaBeau vs Ryan Fitzpatrick?  MISMATCH. 
     
    - On the other side, the Bengals run defense is a siev giving up almost 150 yards per game on the ground on the road, while Pitt averages almost 150 at home.  Pitts achilles heal this year has been their porous pass protection but Cincy has not exactly impressed with their pass rush.  Roethlisburger should have ample time to pick apart this defense, especially on play action deep balls since the Bengals cannot stop the run and will get easily sucked in.
     
    - Night game in a hostile environment in a blood thirsty rivalry.  I think the Steelers are still reeling about Cincy bragging about beating them once two years ago.  Pittsburgh is by far the stronger, faster, more physical, well coached team.  I could go on for days at how this is an enormous mismatch.
     
    Say it with me one more time: Ryan Fitzpatrick on the road staring into the teeth of Harrison, Foote, Hampton, Taylor, Polamolu, etc, etc, etc. 
     
    That said, I am only going one unit in until this double digit ATS chalk trend breaks.
     
    GL
     
     
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    Adding a play for Thursday.
     
    Play:
     
    Pittsburgh -10 (hook) over Cincy
    (My hook rule on this number is non-negotiable for me)
     
    Anybody that has read any of my write ups can tell that while I post a few stats they rarely are the complete basis of my play.
     
    There is one stat here that is clearly against me, and that is the 1-15 ATS record of double digit chalks. .  I keep trying to buck this thinking it will break, and I'm going to try it again.
     
    Statistical Reasons:  There are several stats here in Pitts favor, big time:  Pitt has won the last ten meetings by an average of 28-17, and that was with a good Cincy offense.  Steelers are 7-2-1 ATS in the last ten meetings.  Cincy is getting beat by an average of 12 points per game on the road this year.  Pitt is statistically the best defense in the game while Cincy averages an amazingly bad 238 yards per game on the road.  I could go on and on for ages here but you get the point. 
     
    The Real Reasons:
     
    - Short, Sweet and Simple.  Cincy has absolutely zero chance of running the ball in this game, as they only average 83 yards a game on the ground while Pitt only gives up 68, which means the entire load is going to fall on Ryan Fitzpatrick against an elite secondary and blitz-kreig like pass rush.  Dick LaBeau vs Ryan Fitzpatrick?  MISMATCH. 
     
    - On the other side, the Bengals run defense is a siev giving up almost 150 yards per game on the ground on the road, while Pitt averages almost 150 at home.  Pitts achilles heal this year has been their porous pass protection but Cincy has not exactly impressed with their pass rush.  Roethlisburger should have ample time to pick apart this defense, especially on play action deep balls since the Bengals cannot stop the run and will get easily sucked in.
     
    - Night game in a hostile environment in a blood thirsty rivalry.  I think the Steelers are still reeling about Cincy bragging about beating them once two years ago.  Pittsburgh is by far the stronger, faster, more physical, well coached team.  I could go on for days at how this is an enormous mismatch.
     
    Say it with me one more time: Ryan Fitzpatrick on the road staring into the teeth of Harrison, Foote, Hampton, Taylor, Polamolu, etc, etc, etc. 
     
    That said, I am only going one unit in until this double digit ATS chalk trend breaks.
     
    GL
     
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 3:43 PM ET #17

    NE +2, is it a gift ? Right now NE 86% on Bet tracker ? 
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    NE +2, is it a gift ? Right now NE 86% on Bet tracker ? 
     
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    XLarge.
     
    I think it is.  +3 seemed a little fishy, but I don't care.  Both teams are almost identical statistically and points per game and points given up, so a pick em is probably where it will fall.
     
    I think that a great majority of that 86% you're referring to are probably not public bettors.  The public usually bets around game time.
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    XLarge.
     
    I think it is.  +3 seemed a little fishy, but I don't care.  Both teams are almost identical statistically and points per game and points given up, so a pick em is probably where it will fall.
     
    I think that a great majority of that 86% you're referring to are probably not public bettors.  The public usually bets around game time.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 3:56 PM ET #19

    Also keep in mind that the line moved off one of the most key numbers, 3, in less than a day.  Thats big steam.
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    Also keep in mind that the line moved off one of the most key numbers, 3, in less than a day.  Thats big steam.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 3:57 PM ET #20

    LOVE the NE play myself Hans, hopped right on it as soon as it opened
     
    Lets get this money, had a decent week in college and NFL, plus money is GOOD money but I blew some big plays, need to put the hurtin on the local this weekend, lets do this
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    LOVE the NE play myself Hans, hopped right on it as soon as it opened
     
    Lets get this money, had a decent week in college and NFL, plus money is GOOD money but I blew some big plays, need to put the hurtin on the local this weekend, lets do this
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 4:05 PM ET #21

    Good stuff,
     
     
      GL
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    Good stuff,
     
     
      GL
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 9:00 PM ET #22

    Hans, you're really thinkin taking the Cards (+3)?  I laid on the Gints giving, on the idea I just think they're just a more complete football team, and have beaten the better teams out there thus far this year.  Im all about the cards, and cleaned up on them a couple times this year, bu I just think the Gints have more weapons, ad are just on a little bit of a higher level.  3 points is basically a "pick'em" type of game on an event were the Gints should be laying at least 7pts, IMHO.

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    Hans, you're really thinkin taking the Cards (+3)?  I laid on the Gints giving, on the idea I just think they're just a more complete football team, and have beaten the better teams out there thus far this year.  Im all about the cards, and cleaned up on them a couple times this year, bu I just think the Gints have more weapons, ad are just on a little bit of a higher level.  3 points is basically a "pick'em" type of game on an event were the Gints should be laying at least 7pts, IMHO.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBell13:

    Hans, you're really thinkin taking the Cards (+3)?  I laid on the Gints giving, on the idea I just think they're just a more complete football team, and have beaten the better teams out there thus far this year.  Im all about the cards, and cleaned up on them a couple times this year, bu I just think the Gints have more weapons, ad are just on a little bit of a higher level.  3 points is basically a "pick'em" type of game on an event were the Gints should be laying at least 7pts, IMHO.



    JBell.  Havent decided yet.  Top two offenses in the league so far Points per game wise, Giants obviously have a defensive edge which could be somewhat neutralized by the venue. 

    Its pretty much strength vs strength, Arizona is number 2 passing offense and the Giants are the number 2 passing Defense.  I would worry about Warner vs the Giants pass rush but he seems to be having great success getting rid of the ball quickly. 

    The Giants look unstoppable right now and it would be tough to go against them , especially with their road record, but a part of me thinks Zona can hang here.  Line has already dropped off 3.5 to 3 in some places which is a big move. Might wait till game time to see if its back up to 3.5 so I can buy up to 4.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JBell13:

    Hans, you're really thinkin taking the Cards (+3)?  I laid on the Gints giving, on the idea I just think they're just a more complete football team, and have beaten the better teams out there thus far this year.  Im all about the cards, and cleaned up on them a couple times this year, bu I just think the Gints have more weapons, ad are just on a little bit of a higher level.  3 points is basically a "pick'em" type of game on an event were the Gints should be laying at least 7pts, IMHO.



    JBell.  Havent decided yet.  Top two offenses in the league so far Points per game wise, Giants obviously have a defensive edge which could be somewhat neutralized by the venue. 

    Its pretty much strength vs strength, Arizona is number 2 passing offense and the Giants are the number 2 passing Defense.  I would worry about Warner vs the Giants pass rush but he seems to be having great success getting rid of the ball quickly. 

    The Giants look unstoppable right now and it would be tough to go against them , especially with their road record, but a part of me thinks Zona can hang here.  Line has already dropped off 3.5 to 3 in some places which is a big move. Might wait till game time to see if its back up to 3.5 so I can buy up to 4.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 11:18 PM ET #24

    A few early leans before I hit it.

    Tampa -9 vs Detroit

    What a surprise, I'm thinking of fading Daunte again.  Somebody alert the media cause I'm about to fall over in shock.  I know that fading Tampa on the road is what you are supposed to do but Detroit hasn't covered once at home this year and quite frankly has been absolutely blown out almost every time.  Detroit has absolutely zero home field advantage, unless you want to count the guys wearing bags over their heads.

    Daunte vs Kiffin's Defense is a big, big mismatch and Jeff Garcia vs that joke of a cover 2 Detroit runs is another.  Garcia moved the ball at will vs a much better defense with a similar scheme last week (granted, the Bucs are having MAJOR red zone issues).

    Lean is Tampa or no play, there is absolutely no way I will put money on Culpepper.  I will probably have to talk myself out of this one.

    Arizona +3 Over NYG

    Well there is already reverse line movement here which pisses me off as I was really hoping for the hook or maybe even a 4.  My guess is there is huge sharp action rolling in on Zona  to remove the hook off an enormous public team like NYG who are looking completly unstoppable right now.  Statistically its strength vs strength and Zona is a machine at home. 
     
    Lean: Arizona

    San Diego - 3 Over Indy

    I am going to wait until game time to bet this for two reasons.  Number one, I want to see if it moves off the 3.  I don't think there is a chance we see 2.5 because Indy is the public play here and I think the books want action on them.  Number 2, if I'm having a good day I will be putting at least 4 units on the Chargers.  One team is 6-4 and the other is 4-6.  Without extraordinary circumstances these records would be reversed, and Diego is absolutely lights out at home in prime time.

    Lean (Will Be a Play): San Diego
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    A few early leans before I hit it.

    Tampa -9 vs Detroit

    What a surprise, I'm thinking of fading Daunte again.  Somebody alert the media cause I'm about to fall over in shock.  I know that fading Tampa on the road is what you are supposed to do but Detroit hasn't covered once at home this year and quite frankly has been absolutely blown out almost every time.  Detroit has absolutely zero home field advantage, unless you want to count the guys wearing bags over their heads.

    Daunte vs Kiffin's Defense is a big, big mismatch and Jeff Garcia vs that joke of a cover 2 Detroit runs is another.  Garcia moved the ball at will vs a much better defense with a similar scheme last week (granted, the Bucs are having MAJOR red zone issues).

    Lean is Tampa or no play, there is absolutely no way I will put money on Culpepper.  I will probably have to talk myself out of this one.

    Arizona +3 Over NYG

    Well there is already reverse line movement here which pisses me off as I was really hoping for the hook or maybe even a 4.  My guess is there is huge sharp action rolling in on Zona  to remove the hook off an enormous public team like NYG who are looking completly unstoppable right now.  Statistically its strength vs strength and Zona is a machine at home. 
     
    Lean: Arizona

    San Diego - 3 Over Indy

    I am going to wait until game time to bet this for two reasons.  Number one, I want to see if it moves off the 3.  I don't think there is a chance we see 2.5 because Indy is the public play here and I think the books want action on them.  Number 2, if I'm having a good day I will be putting at least 4 units on the Chargers.  One team is 6-4 and the other is 4-6.  Without extraordinary circumstances these records would be reversed, and Diego is absolutely lights out at home in prime time.

    Lean (Will Be a Play): San Diego
     
     
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    Posted: Nov. 18, 2008 - 11:20 PM ET #25

    The way I see it there are two ways New England doesn't win.
     
    1.  The game is fishy like the Steelers game this week.
    2.  Cassel and the patriots really screw up... I.E. a negative turnover ration of 3 or more... with Miami converting at least 2 into touchdowns.
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    The way I see it there are two ways New England doesn't win.
     
    1.  The game is fishy like the Steelers game this week.
    2.  Cassel and the patriots really screw up... I.E. a negative turnover ration of 3 or more... with Miami converting at least 2 into touchdowns.
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