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    Please don't ever compare quitter Lebum to Jordan,Russell,Kareem,Magic or Bird

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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2021 - 9:57 PM ET #51

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     He gives back to losers who come from drug infested families and only gives back to one color ... your a clown go find a hobby 

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     He gives back to losers who come from drug infested families and only gives back to one color ... your a clown go find a hobby 

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2021 - 10:53 PM ET #52

    Best thread for 2021, congrats Lebum!an_baby Karma is real, will come soon. Starting tonight they will lose to the Sun!

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    Best thread for 2021, congrats Lebum!an_baby Karma is real, will come soon. Starting tonight they will lose to the Sun!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2021 - 11:07 PM ET #53

    Quote Originally Posted by stevietotals24:

    @RonBergundy  He gives back to losers who come from drug infested families and only gives back to one color ... your a clown go find a hobby

    Your life must suck.

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    @RonBergundy  He gives back to losers who come from drug infested families and only gives back to one color ... your a clown go find a hobby

    Your life must suck.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2021 - 11:14 PM ET #54

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:

    @DoubleUp4Life That video got me all fired up, but at the same time a little sad for how the NBA has become less physical than women's hoops.   Pistons would have the first defender hold up the offensive player so 2 more guys could hammer him, because only 1 player could get a foul on a play. Jordan scored 30 a game getting hammered everytime he drove.  Lebron drives the lane, no one touches him and he still gets a foul call
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    That video gets me fired up everytime I watch it ..

    The current NBA is less than physical than my son's 10yr old soccer games ..lol ..

    You got that right ..John Salley said that exact thing on his show he had a few years back ...They'd try to hold a player up while someone else came crashing in , bc it still was only 1 foul . ...Laimbeer would be in prison playing  in today's candy arse NBA .  

    I'd pay anything to see a return to the old rules with today's players vs the best 8 teams fromthe 80's and 90's .....98%+ of the today's players  would be injured , out indefinitely within the first 3 games they played 

     

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    @DoubleUp4Life That video got me all fired up, but at the same time a little sad for how the NBA has become less physical than women's hoops.   Pistons would have the first defender hold up the offensive player so 2 more guys could hammer him, because only 1 player could get a foul on a play. Jordan scored 30 a game getting hammered everytime he drove.  Lebron drives the lane, no one touches him and he still gets a foul call
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    That video gets me fired up everytime I watch it ..

    The current NBA is less than physical than my son's 10yr old soccer games ..lol ..

    You got that right ..John Salley said that exact thing on his show he had a few years back ...They'd try to hold a player up while someone else came crashing in , bc it still was only 1 foul . ...Laimbeer would be in prison playing  in today's candy arse NBA .  

    I'd pay anything to see a return to the old rules with today's players vs the best 8 teams fromthe 80's and 90's .....98%+ of the today's players  would be injured , out indefinitely within the first 3 games they played 

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2021 - 11:17 PM ET #55

    The Queen is washed. More like Joe Flacco than MJ.

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    The Queen is washed. More like Joe Flacco than MJ.

     
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    uuuummm,no.confused..i literally just wrote that of course a modern player would have a huge adjustment to make if they had to play under entirely different rules and interpretations of those rules so the guy would have to change the way he plays or grow up in that environment obviously in order to be used to it...we will never know if he "could be" tough enough cos he never had to be....its all just mental masturba.tion.

     

    its just utterly fuccing bizarre to me though how so many of you people idolise and put on a pedestal the guys from the 80s/90s simply because they played an uglier,slower,less skilled,rugby-like style of hoops...like really??you like that stuff?you enjoy it and think its meritorious crashing into someone or playing limited "bully ball" in the paint??thats the dream there is it?

     

    dont get me wrong,the modern game is not perfect at all...not by any stretch.but it is alot better in many ways and is UNDOUBTEDLY faster and waaaay more skilled and has better depth of talent overall...the best game i think might be a mix between the 2,a bit of physicality and also alot of skill...but then it gets very subjective with the way it is all reffed and called.

     

    and just one thing if you dont mind??if its so easy with the rules and the game as it is nowadays then just why in the hell  has no other player in the past 25 years been able to accomplish what lebron has statistically??....sheesh,only in a lebron debate can you have a guy claim that dudes stats should have an asterix next to them..an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh..so all the hundreds and hundreds of other players from this era all need an asterix too,huh?bigsmile

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    uuuummm,no.confused..i literally just wrote that of course a modern player would have a huge adjustment to make if they had to play under entirely different rules and interpretations of those rules so the guy would have to change the way he plays or grow up in that environment obviously in order to be used to it...we will never know if he "could be" tough enough cos he never had to be....its all just mental masturba.tion.

     

    its just utterly fuccing bizarre to me though how so many of you people idolise and put on a pedestal the guys from the 80s/90s simply because they played an uglier,slower,less skilled,rugby-like style of hoops...like really??you like that stuff?you enjoy it and think its meritorious crashing into someone or playing limited "bully ball" in the paint??thats the dream there is it?

     

    dont get me wrong,the modern game is not perfect at all...not by any stretch.but it is alot better in many ways and is UNDOUBTEDLY faster and waaaay more skilled and has better depth of talent overall...the best game i think might be a mix between the 2,a bit of physicality and also alot of skill...but then it gets very subjective with the way it is all reffed and called.

     

    and just one thing if you dont mind??if its so easy with the rules and the game as it is nowadays then just why in the hell  has no other player in the past 25 years been able to accomplish what lebron has statistically??....sheesh,only in a lebron debate can you have a guy claim that dudes stats should have an asterix next to them..an_roll_laughan_roll_laughan_roll_laugh..so all the hundreds and hundreds of other players from this era all need an asterix too,huh?bigsmile

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2021 - 11:36 PM ET #57

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    I'm not here to argue Brother  ...I love basketball,   believe the best,  most hungry , athletic, toughest, and fundamental players played from 1965-1997.. Nothing says I'm right or wrong,  just an eye test for me ...Both on TV and on the playground ...

    It's not real basketball anymore IMO , the Refs call ridiculously soft subjective fouls ..Many of the defenders play matador defense for the better part of a game ...

    YES I love the old school physical game , it's more realistic of basketball at the best park's in the country...No shady BS ref is there to call ridiculous ticky tack fouls to bail out the offensive player ... The best players I've played with over the years rarely call fouls unless its game point or intentional 

     

     

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    I'm not here to argue Brother  ...I love basketball,   believe the best,  most hungry , athletic, toughest, and fundamental players played from 1965-1997.. Nothing says I'm right or wrong,  just an eye test for me ...Both on TV and on the playground ...

    It's not real basketball anymore IMO , the Refs call ridiculously soft subjective fouls ..Many of the defenders play matador defense for the better part of a game ...

    YES I love the old school physical game , it's more realistic of basketball at the best park's in the country...No shady BS ref is there to call ridiculous ticky tack fouls to bail out the offensive player ... The best players I've played with over the years rarely call fouls unless its game point or intentional 

     

     

     
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    Posted: Jun. 3, 2021 - 11:56 PM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    @melossinglet I'm not here to argue Brother  ...I love basketball,   believe the best,  most hungry , athletic, toughest, and fundamental players played from 1965-1997.. Nothing says I'm right or wrong,  just an eye test for me ...Both on TV and on the playground ... It's not real basketball anymore IMO , the Refs call ridiculously soft subjective fouls ..Many of the defenders play matador defense for the better part of a game ... YES I love the old school physical game , it's more realistic of basketball at the best park's in the country...No shady BS ref is there to call ridiculous ticky tack fouls to bail out the offensive player ... The best players I've played with over the years rarely call fouls unless its game point or intentional

    The dude is just here to argue and defend Lebron at all costs. Sad really. A heck of a night to try and defend him. Its clear that MJ, Bird, Magic, and Kareem are all ahead of him on the all-time list by quite a wide margin. Not close in the eyes of most of the objective followers of hoops. an_light

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    @melossinglet I'm not here to argue Brother  ...I love basketball,   believe the best,  most hungry , athletic, toughest, and fundamental players played from 1965-1997.. Nothing says I'm right or wrong,  just an eye test for me ...Both on TV and on the playground ... It's not real basketball anymore IMO , the Refs call ridiculously soft subjective fouls ..Many of the defenders play matador defense for the better part of a game ... YES I love the old school physical game , it's more realistic of basketball at the best park's in the country...No shady BS ref is there to call ridiculous ticky tack fouls to bail out the offensive player ... The best players I've played with over the years rarely call fouls unless its game point or intentional

    The dude is just here to argue and defend Lebron at all costs. Sad really. A heck of a night to try and defend him. Its clear that MJ, Bird, Magic, and Kareem are all ahead of him on the all-time list by quite a wide margin. Not close in the eyes of most of the objective followers of hoops. an_light

     
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     I understand why Lebron has fans , sure he is good ..But he is also Microsoft and often needs to be carried by players who appear to be better than him in cruncg time or critical times in a series ..

    I've never in my all years seen a player of his size continously flop , and roll around like he was stabbed in the leg, eye , arm etc ...

     

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     I understand why Lebron has fans , sure he is good ..But he is also Microsoft and often needs to be carried by players who appear to be better than him in cruncg time or critical times in a series ..

    I've never in my all years seen a player of his size continously flop , and roll around like he was stabbed in the leg, eye , arm etc ...

     

     
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     I agree Jordan or Kobe would have taken over Game 4 at home...when Lakers were down 54-50 at the half, Anthony Davis was out for the entire second half and up 2-1 in Series... But don't anything away from LeBron, he is One of the greatest...

    What was Kobe and Jordan doing during their 18th year??? I'll wait..................................

    I'll tell you... not making the playoffs...

    Jordan, Kobe and LeBron Three of the greatest to ever play the game...thebasketball

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     I agree Jordan or Kobe would have taken over Game 4 at home...when Lakers were down 54-50 at the half, Anthony Davis was out for the entire second half and up 2-1 in Series... But don't anything away from LeBron, he is One of the greatest...

    What was Kobe and Jordan doing during their 18th year??? I'll wait..................................

    I'll tell you... not making the playoffs...

    Jordan, Kobe and LeBron Three of the greatest to ever play the game...thebasketball

     
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     Are you serious??? Larry Bird better than LeBron... your crazy... I watched basketball during that era...

    Where is Larry Bird better??? I'll wait????????????

    LeBron is a better ball handler, rebounder, passer, defender... Only category Bird is better in is shooter...

    Y'all are LeBron Haters... study his entire career...

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     Are you serious??? Larry Bird better than LeBron... your crazy... I watched basketball during that era...

    Where is Larry Bird better??? I'll wait????????????

    LeBron is a better ball handler, rebounder, passer, defender... Only category Bird is better in is shooter...

    Y'all are LeBron Haters... study his entire career...

     
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    Booker > Jordan

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    Quote Originally Posted by banksopenallday:

    Booker > Jordan

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    Booker > Jordan

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by stevietotals24:

    @RonBergundy  He gives back to losers who come from drug infested families and only gives back to one color ... your a clown go find a hobby

    Ahhh... showing your true colors. 

    Stevie you are a piece of shit for this one brother. What have you done for your community? Besides let your neighbors know, that you can’t be allowed near a school zone... 

    Piss off.

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    @RonBergundy  He gives back to losers who come from drug infested families and only gives back to one color ... your a clown go find a hobby

    Ahhh... showing your true colors. 

    Stevie you are a piece of shit for this one brother. What have you done for your community? Besides let your neighbors know, that you can’t be allowed near a school zone... 

    Piss off.

     
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    @DoubleUp4Life

    Also a lot of famous athletes have been known not to tip, MJ was the biggest Dick to workers in Vegas...

    Can’t really judge him solely on that. 

    Charles Barkley however was the goat when it came to casinos...

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    Also a lot of famous athletes have been known not to tip, MJ was the biggest Dick to workers in Vegas...

    Can’t really judge him solely on that. 

    Charles Barkley however was the goat when it came to casinos...

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBergundy:

    @DoubleUp4Life Also a lot of famous athletes have been known not to tip, MJ was the biggest Dick to workers in Vegas... Can’t really judge him solely on that.  Charles Barkley however was the goat when it came to casinos...

     

    Im.not judging him off the court in any aspect ..If he's not a good tipper so be it ..Some of his philanthropy is Fantastic ..

    I'm talking strictly basketball on the court  ...

    Good yes , vastly overrated , and one of the softest players I've seen in all my years of hooping or watching it on tv/in person ...

     

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    @DoubleUp4Life Also a lot of famous athletes have been known not to tip, MJ was the biggest Dick to workers in Vegas... Can’t really judge him solely on that.  Charles Barkley however was the goat when it came to casinos...

     

    Im.not judging him off the court in any aspect ..If he's not a good tipper so be it ..Some of his philanthropy is Fantastic ..

    I'm talking strictly basketball on the court  ...

    Good yes , vastly overrated , and one of the softest players I've seen in all my years of hooping or watching it on tv/in person ...

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by banksopenallday:

    Booker > Jordan

    I'd bet my bankroll you're 16-25 years old ...an_baby

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    I'd bet my bankroll you're 16-25 years old ...an_baby

     
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    I am 27 Double, and moved to the US in 2003. So I missed out on MJ.

    Yet, LeBron in his prime back on the Cavs 1st stint was spectacular. Just sucks to see him now, where it seems like he think the league owes him something.

    Still a fan, he is my era of best basketball player. 

    Was never a Kobe fan, yet respected his game A LOT. Still think overall wise Bron was better. (My opinion of course)

    Still crazy how the Cavs didn’t give him anyone that 1st 7 or 8 year stint...

    They gave him Wally Sczerbiak or how ever the hell you spell it...

    an_roll_laugh

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    I am 27 Double, and moved to the US in 2003. So I missed out on MJ.

    Yet, LeBron in his prime back on the Cavs 1st stint was spectacular. Just sucks to see him now, where it seems like he think the league owes him something.

    Still a fan, he is my era of best basketball player. 

    Was never a Kobe fan, yet respected his game A LOT. Still think overall wise Bron was better. (My opinion of course)

    Still crazy how the Cavs didn’t give him anyone that 1st 7 or 8 year stint...

    They gave him Wally Sczerbiak or how ever the hell you spell it...

    an_roll_laugh

     
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     Stevie You know nothing about the African American community, you know nothing about African life, you know nothing about redlining, you know nothing about Jim Crow laws... study some US history and see how blacks were treated in this country and how their neighborhoods and schools and businesses were treated and the finances they were not allowed to get... Study Residual Effect...If LeBron and other prominent African-Americans don't support their community who's going to support them??? Wake up!!!

    I don't hear you complaining when the Asians support their community... I don't hear you complaining when the Hispanics are supporting their community....

    Nobody complains about Asian pride or Hispanic pride... only black pride...

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     Stevie You know nothing about the African American community, you know nothing about African life, you know nothing about redlining, you know nothing about Jim Crow laws... study some US history and see how blacks were treated in this country and how their neighborhoods and schools and businesses were treated and the finances they were not allowed to get... Study Residual Effect...If LeBron and other prominent African-Americans don't support their community who's going to support them??? Wake up!!!

    I don't hear you complaining when the Asians support their community... I don't hear you complaining when the Hispanics are supporting their community....

    Nobody complains about Asian pride or Hispanic pride... only black pride...

     
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     Amen!!! ?? Drop!!!

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     Amen!!! ?? Drop!!!

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by banksopenallday: Booker > Jordan I'd bet my bankroll you're 16-25 years old ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by banksopenallday: Booker > Jordan I'd bet my bankroll you're 16-25 years old ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    Quote Originally Posted by RonBergundy: @DoubleUp4Life Also a lot of famous athletes have been known not to tip, MJ was the biggest Dick to workers in Vegas... Can’t really judge him solely on that.  Charles Barkley however was the goat when it came to casinos...   Im.not judging him off the court in any aspect ..If he's not a good tipper so be it ..Some of his philanthropy is Fantastic .. I'm talking strictly basketball on the court  ... Good yes , vastly overrated , and one of the softest players I've seen in all my years of hooping or watching it on tv/in person ...

    All I know is 3 years for Lebron in the Superior Western Conference. 

    Year 1: missed playoffs

    Year 2: Mickey Mouse Title

    Year 3: First Round Exit. 

    All those consecutive Finals appearances definitely are proving to be caused mostly by a very weak Eastern Conference throughout the majority of his career. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonBergundy: @DoubleUp4Life Also a lot of famous athletes have been known not to tip, MJ was the biggest Dick to workers in Vegas... Can’t really judge him solely on that.  Charles Barkley however was the goat when it came to casinos...   Im.not judging him off the court in any aspect ..If he's not a good tipper so be it ..Some of his philanthropy is Fantastic .. I'm talking strictly basketball on the court  ... Good yes , vastly overrated , and one of the softest players I've seen in all my years of hooping or watching it on tv/in person ...

    All I know is 3 years for Lebron in the Superior Western Conference. 

    Year 1: missed playoffs

    Year 2: Mickey Mouse Title

    Year 3: First Round Exit. 

    All those consecutive Finals appearances definitely are proving to be caused mostly by a very weak Eastern Conference throughout the majority of his career. an_light

     
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     Couldn't have said it better myself Double peace_5

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     Couldn't have said it better myself Double peace_5

     
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    lebron's dominance in the east is hardly noteworthy... he was always in super teams, and its the east. 

     

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    lebron's dominance in the east is hardly noteworthy... he was always in super teams, and its the east. 

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circus_Bettor:

    LeBron is 14-1 in first rd of playoffs. First loss ever.

    With all the calls ..on stacked teams as the heavy chalk must of the times..

    The eastern conference over the last 18 years has had a ton of pretenders who backdoored into the playoffs...Never deep 

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    LeBron is 14-1 in first rd of playoffs. First loss ever.

    With all the calls ..on stacked teams as the heavy chalk must of the times..

    The eastern conference over the last 18 years has had a ton of pretenders who backdoored into the playoffs...Never deep 

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