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    People honestly want to compare Lebron to Jordan??

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    JerryWrasse
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2015 - 11:07 AM ET #101

    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:



    True.  They just don't allow physical play any more.

    Not at all. The rule was revoked to make the game more exciting to the average fan. Which means giving guards more freedom with and without the ball. Hgh and better training has also played a large part. Guys who were 6'8, 6'9, 6'10 traditionally are playing under the basket. Combine with the fact that nba finds have finally discovered shooting 40% from 3 is better than 50% from inside. 
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    True.  They just don't allow physical play any more.

    Not at all. The rule was revoked to make the game more exciting to the average fan. Which means giving guards more freedom with and without the ball. Hgh and better training has also played a large part. Guys who were 6'8, 6'9, 6'10 traditionally are playing under the basket. Combine with the fact that nba finds have finally discovered shooting 40% from 3 is better than 50% from inside. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2015 - 1:38 PM ET #102

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    Miami's roster without Bosh was nice this year?  .  Uh no it wasn't.  Yeah Chalmers and Birdman were tearing it up haha.  You called him a HOF player and now act like he isn't anything.   Can't argue both sides.  Not even sure what you are saying about hand checking.

    First off, bruh. You need to learn how to use the quote feature in this piece. It would make you sound more credible. Miami had a good roster.... considering Bosh got hurt and Whiteside stepped in. They traded for a legit PG in Dragic, had Luol deng and a bunch of other players from the Championship teams. THEY STILL SUCKED WITH BOSH AND WITHOUT BOSH. They got abused by the 76ers lol. What are you talkin about dude? Do you live in a Cave?

    He (bosh)is a HOF player (maybe) but even without Lebron THEY AINT SHIIT... THATS the FECKIN ARGUMENT. Lebron is a team within a team. Jordan ain't. People fall in love with Jordan like he's a god. He was a feckin person. No one wanted to play with him and no one even liked him that much.

    When his team goes to game 6 of the conference finals and wins 57+ games WITHOUT HIM that's more of a testament to the talent he had around him. He played with 2 HOF at all times against chumps... one all star teams with Ewing, Reggie. Never went up against hakeem as he took time off cuz he was a degenerate gambler. Lebrons has to see deeper more stacked crews in his generation. That's where i'll give credit to Kobe is that he balled against that Celtics team in 2010..... Jordan never went up against a crew like that 2010 Celtics or even that OKC team with feckin 6'11'' SF who dunks from the 3 point line.... That era was different than today..... people fail to understand that in their pea sized brains..... all they feckin know is Jordan went 6-0 in the finals.... great we all know that.... he crossed Shandon Anderson up lol.... who the feck is Shandon Anderson anyway..... His teams were always superior. The one dark spot on Lebron's career is the loss to the Mavericks team I'll agree with that, partially.

    Feckin guys like John Stockton were in the league lol. I don't give feck how many lame assists he had. Stockton would get served today by the freaks that play in the league right now. Jordan beat a crippled emaciated Magic Johnson lead lakers team finally, AFTER LOSING 3 TIMES I NTHE FIRST FUCKIN ROUND of the playoffs in his career. He started winning when all time greats like Bird and Magic went away and Detroit started getting older. Same argument people want to make against Lebron and "weal" eatern conference.

    No one ever wants to talk about Jordan getting routed 3 times in the first round lol. How many times did LeBron lose in the first round? NEVER. I guess its better to go 2-0 in the finals then to get to the finals 5 years in a row, right? LOL. Some of the logic is just insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:



    Miami's roster without Bosh was nice this year?  .  Uh no it wasn't.  Yeah Chalmers and Birdman were tearing it up haha.  You called him a HOF player and now act like he isn't anything.   Can't argue both sides.  Not even sure what you are saying about hand checking.

    First off, bruh. You need to learn how to use the quote feature in this piece. It would make you sound more credible. Miami had a good roster.... considering Bosh got hurt and Whiteside stepped in. They traded for a legit PG in Dragic, had Luol deng and a bunch of other players from the Championship teams. THEY STILL SUCKED WITH BOSH AND WITHOUT BOSH. They got abused by the 76ers lol. What are you talkin about dude? Do you live in a Cave?

    He (bosh)is a HOF player (maybe) but even without Lebron THEY AINT SHIIT... THATS the FECKIN ARGUMENT. Lebron is a team within a team. Jordan ain't. People fall in love with Jordan like he's a god. He was a feckin person. No one wanted to play with him and no one even liked him that much.

    When his team goes to game 6 of the conference finals and wins 57+ games WITHOUT HIM that's more of a testament to the talent he had around him. He played with 2 HOF at all times against chumps... one all star teams with Ewing, Reggie. Never went up against hakeem as he took time off cuz he was a degenerate gambler. Lebrons has to see deeper more stacked crews in his generation. That's where i'll give credit to Kobe is that he balled against that Celtics team in 2010..... Jordan never went up against a crew like that 2010 Celtics or even that OKC team with feckin 6'11'' SF who dunks from the 3 point line.... That era was different than today..... people fail to understand that in their pea sized brains..... all they feckin know is Jordan went 6-0 in the finals.... great we all know that.... he crossed Shandon Anderson up lol.... who the feck is Shandon Anderson anyway..... His teams were always superior. The one dark spot on Lebron's career is the loss to the Mavericks team I'll agree with that, partially.

    Feckin guys like John Stockton were in the league lol. I don't give feck how many lame assists he had. Stockton would get served today by the freaks that play in the league right now. Jordan beat a crippled emaciated Magic Johnson lead lakers team finally, AFTER LOSING 3 TIMES I NTHE FIRST FUCKIN ROUND of the playoffs in his career. He started winning when all time greats like Bird and Magic went away and Detroit started getting older. Same argument people want to make against Lebron and "weal" eatern conference.

    No one ever wants to talk about Jordan getting routed 3 times in the first round lol. How many times did LeBron lose in the first round? NEVER. I guess its better to go 2-0 in the finals then to get to the finals 5 years in a row, right? LOL. Some of the logic is just insane.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2015 - 4:25 PM ET #103

    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    I'm not taking the time to look up the stats/standing but I

    wonder if when Jordan was playing that the 6th seed in the East was games under .500 overall, like they have been the last 5-6yrs Like the post above says, teams in the East have been garbage except 2-3 teams a year, so Lebron has 1 tough series if that to make the finals
    ..so wat???..is that his fault??..so you want him to bring about parity and competition in the east now as well as solve problems in the middle east and cure cancer on top of it??...anything else while youre at it??....its pathetic the lengths people will go to to discredit the guy simply cos they dont like him...talk about reaching-"oh,the centres are no good...oh,the east is so weak...."....so THATS the reason lebron has dominated the league like very few in history,huh??..really??....hes put up 27,7 and 7 for over a decade(whilst no-one else has even come close) because centres are non-existent and the east is weak??good grief.gimme a break.its IRRELEVENT wat the east is like,lebron holds his own versus any level of competition,as illustrated in this series versus the "almighty" warriors,and versus the spurs and thunder..and his career numbers in regular season across the board are BETTER versus west than versus east....do sum research before throwing wild assumptions and baseless criticisms out there



    First of all, you keep insulting people and calling them the "stupidest" (which isn't a word) and you "get dumber" for reading their posts....yet you have worst grammar and writing skills than my 5yr old nephew...

    As for this post....yes, Lebron numbers are skewed cause the shitty East conf he plays against 70% of the time

    If it wasn't for an offensive rebound and 3ball by Ray Allen he would be what?? 1-5 in the finals??? If Lebron played his career in the West his numbers would be way down and maybe not have even made a finals series
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    Quote Originally Posted by melossinglet:

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    I'm not taking the time to look up the stats/standing but I

    wonder if when Jordan was playing that the 6th seed in the East was games under .500 overall, like they have been the last 5-6yrs Like the post above says, teams in the East have been garbage except 2-3 teams a year, so Lebron has 1 tough series if that to make the finals
    ..so wat???..is that his fault??..so you want him to bring about parity and competition in the east now as well as solve problems in the middle east and cure cancer on top of it??...anything else while youre at it??....its pathetic the lengths people will go to to discredit the guy simply cos they dont like him...talk about reaching-"oh,the centres are no good...oh,the east is so weak...."....so THATS the reason lebron has dominated the league like very few in history,huh??..really??....hes put up 27,7 and 7 for over a decade(whilst no-one else has even come close) because centres are non-existent and the east is weak??good grief.gimme a break.its IRRELEVENT wat the east is like,lebron holds his own versus any level of competition,as illustrated in this series versus the "almighty" warriors,and versus the spurs and thunder..and his career numbers in regular season across the board are BETTER versus west than versus east....do sum research before throwing wild assumptions and baseless criticisms out there



    First of all, you keep insulting people and calling them the "stupidest" (which isn't a word) and you "get dumber" for reading their posts....yet you have worst grammar and writing skills than my 5yr old nephew...

    As for this post....yes, Lebron numbers are skewed cause the shitty East conf he plays against 70% of the time

    If it wasn't for an offensive rebound and 3ball by Ray Allen he would be what?? 1-5 in the finals??? If Lebron played his career in the West his numbers would be way down and maybe not have even made a finals series
     
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    Posted: Jun. 14, 2015 - 4:39 PM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:

    First off, bruh. You need to learn how to use the quote feature in this piece. It would make you sound more credible. Miami had a good roster.... considering Bosh got hurt and Whiteside stepped in. They traded for a legit PG in Dragic, had Luol deng and a bunch of other players from the Championship teams. THEY STILL SUCKED WITH BOSH AND WITHOUT BOSH. They got abused by the 76ers lol. What are you talkin about dude? Do you live in a Cave?

    He (bosh)is a HOF player (maybe) but even without Lebron THEY AINT SHIIT... THATS the FECKIN ARGUMENT. Lebron is a team within a team. Jordan ain't. People fall in love with Jordan like he's a god. He was a feckin person. No one wanted to play with him and no one even liked him that much.

    When his team goes to game 6 of the conference finals and wins 57+ games WITHOUT HIM that's more of a testament to the talent he had around him. He played with 2 HOF at all times against chumps... one all star teams with Ewing, Reggie. Never went up against hakeem as he took time off cuz he was a degenerate gambler. Lebrons has to see deeper more stacked crews in his generation. That's where i'll give credit to Kobe is that he balled against that Celtics team in 2010..... Jordan never went up against a crew like that 2010 Celtics or even that OKC team with feckin 6'11'' SF who dunks from the 3 point line.... That era was different than today..... people fail to understand that in their pea sized brains..... all they feckin know is Jordan went 6-0 in the finals.... great we all know that.... he crossed Shandon Anderson up lol.... who the feck is Shandon Anderson anyway..... His teams were always superior. The one dark spot on Lebron's career is the loss to the Mavericks team I'll agree with that, partially.

    Feckin guys like John Stockton were in the league lol. I don't give feck how many lame assists he had. Stockton would get served today by the freaks that play in the league right now. Jordan beat a crippled emaciated Magic Johnson lead lakers team finally, AFTER LOSING 3 TIMES I NTHE FIRST FUCKIN ROUND of the playoffs in his career. He started winning when all time greats like Bird and Magic went away and Detroit started getting older. Same argument people want to make against Lebron and "weal" eatern conference.

    No one ever wants to talk about Jordan getting routed 3 times in the first round lol. How many times did LeBron lose in the first round? NEVER. I guess its better to go 2-0 in the finals then to get to the finals 5 years in a row, right? LOL. Some of the logic is just insane.



    Sorry Bruh about the quote feature because that really matters.  You basing an argument off of the use of a quote feature says all I need to know about your arguments.  The Heat traded for Dragic when 2/3rd's of the season was already completed.  I think you are the one living in the cave sir.  Lebron is a great player that is not the argument, but saying Jordan didn't make his teams is absurd.  How good were the Bulls before he got there? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:

    First off, bruh. You need to learn how to use the quote feature in this piece. It would make you sound more credible. Miami had a good roster.... considering Bosh got hurt and Whiteside stepped in. They traded for a legit PG in Dragic, had Luol deng and a bunch of other players from the Championship teams. THEY STILL SUCKED WITH BOSH AND WITHOUT BOSH. They got abused by the 76ers lol. What are you talkin about dude? Do you live in a Cave?

    He (bosh)is a HOF player (maybe) but even without Lebron THEY AINT SHIIT... THATS the FECKIN ARGUMENT. Lebron is a team within a team. Jordan ain't. People fall in love with Jordan like he's a god. He was a feckin person. No one wanted to play with him and no one even liked him that much.

    When his team goes to game 6 of the conference finals and wins 57+ games WITHOUT HIM that's more of a testament to the talent he had around him. He played with 2 HOF at all times against chumps... one all star teams with Ewing, Reggie. Never went up against hakeem as he took time off cuz he was a degenerate gambler. Lebrons has to see deeper more stacked crews in his generation. That's where i'll give credit to Kobe is that he balled against that Celtics team in 2010..... Jordan never went up against a crew like that 2010 Celtics or even that OKC team with feckin 6'11'' SF who dunks from the 3 point line.... That era was different than today..... people fail to understand that in their pea sized brains..... all they feckin know is Jordan went 6-0 in the finals.... great we all know that.... he crossed Shandon Anderson up lol.... who the feck is Shandon Anderson anyway..... His teams were always superior. The one dark spot on Lebron's career is the loss to the Mavericks team I'll agree with that, partially.

    Feckin guys like John Stockton were in the league lol. I don't give feck how many lame assists he had. Stockton would get served today by the freaks that play in the league right now. Jordan beat a crippled emaciated Magic Johnson lead lakers team finally, AFTER LOSING 3 TIMES I NTHE FIRST FUCKIN ROUND of the playoffs in his career. He started winning when all time greats like Bird and Magic went away and Detroit started getting older. Same argument people want to make against Lebron and "weal" eatern conference.

    No one ever wants to talk about Jordan getting routed 3 times in the first round lol. How many times did LeBron lose in the first round? NEVER. I guess its better to go 2-0 in the finals then to get to the finals 5 years in a row, right? LOL. Some of the logic is just insane.



    Sorry Bruh about the quote feature because that really matters.  You basing an argument off of the use of a quote feature says all I need to know about your arguments.  The Heat traded for Dragic when 2/3rd's of the season was already completed.  I think you are the one living in the cave sir.  Lebron is a great player that is not the argument, but saying Jordan didn't make his teams is absurd.  How good were the Bulls before he got there? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneCam27:

    First off, bruh. You need to learn how to use the quote feature in this piece. It would make you sound more credible. Miami had a good roster.... considering Bosh got hurt and Whiteside stepped in. They traded for a legit PG in Dragic, had Luol deng and a bunch of other players from the Championship teams. THEY STILL SUCKED WITH BOSH AND WITHOUT BOSH. They got abused by the 76ers lol. What are you talkin about dude? Do you live in a Cave?

    He (bosh)is a HOF player (maybe) but even without Lebron THEY AINT SHIIT... THATS the FECKIN ARGUMENT. Lebron is a team within a team. Jordan ain't. People fall in love with Jordan like he's a god. He was a feckin person. No one wanted to play with him and no one even liked him that much.

    When his team goes to game 6 of the conference finals and wins 57+ games WITHOUT HIM that's more of a testament to the talent he had around him. He played with 2 HOF at all times against chumps... one all star teams with Ewing, Reggie. Never went up against hakeem as he took time off cuz he was a degenerate gambler. Lebrons has to see deeper more stacked crews in his generation. That's where i'll give credit to Kobe is that he balled against that Celtics team in 2010..... Jordan never went up against a crew like that 2010 Celtics or even that OKC team with feckin 6'11'' SF who dunks from the 3 point line.... That era was different than today..... people fail to understand that in their pea sized brains..... all they feckin know is Jordan went 6-0 in the finals.... great we all know that.... he crossed Shandon Anderson up lol.... who the feck is Shandon Anderson anyway..... His teams were always superior. The one dark spot on Lebron's career is the loss to the Mavericks team I'll agree with that, partially.

    Feckin guys like John Stockton were in the league lol. I don't give feck how many lame assists he had. Stockton would get served today by the freaks that play in the league right now. Jordan beat a crippled emaciated Magic Johnson lead lakers team finally, AFTER LOSING 3 TIMES I NTHE FIRST FUCKIN ROUND of the playoffs in his career. He started winning when all time greats like Bird and Magic went away and Detroit started getting older. Same argument people want to make against Lebron and "weal" eatern conference.

    No one ever wants to talk about Jordan getting routed 3 times in the first round lol. How many times did LeBron lose in the first round? NEVER. I guess its better to go 2-0 in the finals then to get to the finals 5 years in a row, right? LOL. Some of the logic is just insane.



    Not even sure what this post really means.  Hard to debate a post that lacks cohesion and doesn't make sense.  Durant can dunk from the 3 point line?  On NBA Jam or NBA 2k15?  What are you talking about?  What does one all star teams with Ewing and Miller mean?  I am not debating Lebron is a great player.  He is the best in the game today.  But to act like competition was weak in the 80s and 90s is simply absurd. 
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    First off, bruh. You need to learn how to use the quote feature in this piece. It would make you sound more credible. Miami had a good roster.... considering Bosh got hurt and Whiteside stepped in. They traded for a legit PG in Dragic, had Luol deng and a bunch of other players from the Championship teams. THEY STILL SUCKED WITH BOSH AND WITHOUT BOSH. They got abused by the 76ers lol. What are you talkin about dude? Do you live in a Cave?

    He (bosh)is a HOF player (maybe) but even without Lebron THEY AINT SHIIT... THATS the FECKIN ARGUMENT. Lebron is a team within a team. Jordan ain't. People fall in love with Jordan like he's a god. He was a feckin person. No one wanted to play with him and no one even liked him that much.

    When his team goes to game 6 of the conference finals and wins 57+ games WITHOUT HIM that's more of a testament to the talent he had around him. He played with 2 HOF at all times against chumps... one all star teams with Ewing, Reggie. Never went up against hakeem as he took time off cuz he was a degenerate gambler. Lebrons has to see deeper more stacked crews in his generation. That's where i'll give credit to Kobe is that he balled against that Celtics team in 2010..... Jordan never went up against a crew like that 2010 Celtics or even that OKC team with feckin 6'11'' SF who dunks from the 3 point line.... That era was different than today..... people fail to understand that in their pea sized brains..... all they feckin know is Jordan went 6-0 in the finals.... great we all know that.... he crossed Shandon Anderson up lol.... who the feck is Shandon Anderson anyway..... His teams were always superior. The one dark spot on Lebron's career is the loss to the Mavericks team I'll agree with that, partially.

    Feckin guys like John Stockton were in the league lol. I don't give feck how many lame assists he had. Stockton would get served today by the freaks that play in the league right now. Jordan beat a crippled emaciated Magic Johnson lead lakers team finally, AFTER LOSING 3 TIMES I NTHE FIRST FUCKIN ROUND of the playoffs in his career. He started winning when all time greats like Bird and Magic went away and Detroit started getting older. Same argument people want to make against Lebron and "weal" eatern conference.

    No one ever wants to talk about Jordan getting routed 3 times in the first round lol. How many times did LeBron lose in the first round? NEVER. I guess its better to go 2-0 in the finals then to get to the finals 5 years in a row, right? LOL. Some of the logic is just insane.



    Not even sure what this post really means.  Hard to debate a post that lacks cohesion and doesn't make sense.  Durant can dunk from the 3 point line?  On NBA Jam or NBA 2k15?  What are you talking about?  What does one all star teams with Ewing and Miller mean?  I am not debating Lebron is a great player.  He is the best in the game today.  But to act like competition was weak in the 80s and 90s is simply absurd. 
     
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    You're clearly a feckin retard.....

    Honestly had enough of this place.

    Jordan leaves the bulls they win 57 games and go 6 games in the conference finals.

    Lebrons leaves the cavs they instantly become the worst team ever. Lebron Leaves Miami they are feckin garbage and can't even come close a .500 record lol. Lebron returns to Cleveland they instantly go to the finals...... Lebrons is playing a feckin 67 win team ranked 4th best of all time spastically with a team full of scrubs and the series is tied 2-2.....

    Are you feckin burnt? Open your eyes.... jesus Christ.

    When its said and done he'll be the best of all time. I'm personally riding him for the next 5 years and stacking away money cuz he's gonna be ripping it up.

    People have this love affair with Jordan.... it's unreal. And they love to look the other way and hate Lebron for no reason.

     

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    You're clearly a feckin retard.....

    Honestly had enough of this place.

    Jordan leaves the bulls they win 57 games and go 6 games in the conference finals.

    Lebrons leaves the cavs they instantly become the worst team ever. Lebron Leaves Miami they are feckin garbage and can't even come close a .500 record lol. Lebron returns to Cleveland they instantly go to the finals...... Lebrons is playing a feckin 67 win team ranked 4th best of all time spastically with a team full of scrubs and the series is tied 2-2.....

    Are you feckin burnt? Open your eyes.... jesus Christ.

    When its said and done he'll be the best of all time. I'm personally riding him for the next 5 years and stacking away money cuz he's gonna be ripping it up.

    People have this love affair with Jordan.... it's unreal. And they love to look the other way and hate Lebron for no reason.

     

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky008:

    I think even Reggie Miller was better than James


    Youre kidding right?
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    I think even Reggie Miller was better than James


    Youre kidding right?
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