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    People honestly want to compare Lebron to Jordan??

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    LETGOPACK1234
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:24 PM ET #1

    I have never seen some cry and complain more than Lebron....and I had to watch Boozer play for years here

    He literally complains every play...guy lower his head and bulldozes 3 guys driving to the basket every plays and he still cries about getting fouled??

    What a joke...have lost so much respect for him with how bad he has been complaining in this series...

    He could have 6 offensive fouls in every half
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    I have never seen some cry and complain more than Lebron....and I had to watch Boozer play for years here

    He literally complains every play...guy lower his head and bulldozes 3 guys driving to the basket every plays and he still cries about getting fouled??

    What a joke...have lost so much respect for him with how bad he has been complaining in this series...

    He could have 6 offensive fouls in every half
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:26 PM ET #2

    Heck, he should foul out on offensive fouls while posting up alone...

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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:29 PM ET #3

    I can point out at least 30 former and recent players who are better than lebrick
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    I can point out at least 30 former and recent players who are better than lebrick
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:30 PM ET #4

    He actually hasn't complained much at all this series, outside of the end of game two… which was warranted.

    And people compare LeBron's game to Jordan's. Not their personality. Lol
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    He actually hasn't complained much at all this series, outside of the end of game two… which was warranted.

    And people compare LeBron's game to Jordan's. Not their personality. Lol
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:30 PM ET #5

    Well, they're both very similar...........

    MJ was a guard that liked to dunk

    And LeBron is a forward that likes to chuck 3s..............

    Other than that, two peas in a pod....................
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    Well, they're both very similar...........

    MJ was a guard that liked to dunk

    And LeBron is a forward that likes to chuck 3s..............

    Other than that, two peas in a pod....................
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:34 PM ET #6

    Nobody's Jordan.


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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:43 PM ET #7

    I know more about basketball then you'll ever know Pack....I've played the sport....you know nothing about the game....How much you wanna bet that Kobe, Bird, Magic would be down 0-3 with this injured Cleveland roster...Jordan would have scored 65 in one game and still would be down 1-2 in this series....None of those players were asked to lead their team in points, rebounds and assists and be the leader and coach of the team...Lebron has to do it all....Basically he has to be the CEO, the Vice President, the manager, the chef, the dishwasher, the waitress and the hostess of the restaurant.....Don't say anything unless you have a decent debate....Pack your just a Lebron hater!!!.....I'm a basketball historian.....
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    I know more about basketball then you'll ever know Pack....I've played the sport....you know nothing about the game....How much you wanna bet that Kobe, Bird, Magic would be down 0-3 with this injured Cleveland roster...Jordan would have scored 65 in one game and still would be down 1-2 in this series....None of those players were asked to lead their team in points, rebounds and assists and be the leader and coach of the team...Lebron has to do it all....Basically he has to be the CEO, the Vice President, the manager, the chef, the dishwasher, the waitress and the hostess of the restaurant.....Don't say anything unless you have a decent debate....Pack your just a Lebron hater!!!.....I'm a basketball historian.....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:46 PM ET #8

    Quote Originally Posted by jdukes0004:

    I know more about basketball then you'll ever know Pack....I've played the sport....you know nothing about the game....How much you wanna bet that Kobe, Bird, Magic would be down 0-3 with this injured Cleveland roster...Jordan would have scored 65 in one game and still would be down 1-2 in this series....None of those players were asked to lead their team in points, rebounds and assists and be the leader and coach of the team...Lebron has to do it all....Basically he has to be the CEO, the Vice President, the manager, the chef, the dishwasher, the waitress and the hostess of the restaurant.....Don't say anything unless you have a decent debate....Pack your just a Lebron hater!!!.....I'm a basketball historian.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdukes0004:

    I know more about basketball then you'll ever know Pack....I've played the sport....you know nothing about the game....How much you wanna bet that Kobe, Bird, Magic would be down 0-3 with this injured Cleveland roster...Jordan would have scored 65 in one game and still would be down 1-2 in this series....None of those players were asked to lead their team in points, rebounds and assists and be the leader and coach of the team...Lebron has to do it all....Basically he has to be the CEO, the Vice President, the manager, the chef, the dishwasher, the waitress and the hostess of the restaurant.....Don't say anything unless you have a decent debate....Pack your just a Lebron hater!!!.....I'm a basketball historian.....

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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:48 PM ET #9

    I've been watching basketball since 1983...and Lebron is better then Magic Johnson, Kobe and Bird as a player....Go look at Kobe Jordan, Magic, and Bird Supporting cast....Give Lebron their supporting cast and he wins multiple championships as well...Give those greats his injured Cleveland roster and they are down 3-0 in this series....
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    I've been watching basketball since 1983...and Lebron is better then Magic Johnson, Kobe and Bird as a player....Go look at Kobe Jordan, Magic, and Bird Supporting cast....Give Lebron their supporting cast and he wins multiple championships as well...Give those greats his injured Cleveland roster and they are down 3-0 in this series....
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:52 PM ET #10

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    I have never seen some cry and complain more than Lebron....and I had to watch Boozer play for years here

    He literally complains every play...guy lower his head and bulldozes 3 guys driving to the basket every plays and he still cries about getting fouled??

    What a joke...have lost so much respect for him with how bad he has been complaining in this series...

    He could have 6 offensive fouls in every half

    Yeah I hate the crying too 
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    I have never seen some cry and complain more than Lebron....and I had to watch Boozer play for years here

    He literally complains every play...guy lower his head and bulldozes 3 guys driving to the basket every plays and he still cries about getting fouled??

    What a joke...have lost so much respect for him with how bad he has been complaining in this series...

    He could have 6 offensive fouls in every half

    Yeah I hate the crying too 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:55 PM ET #11

    The difference is there wasn't as much free agency back then...you can't pick up D Wade, Bosh, Love, Irving

    Granted he's doing it this year, but Jordan dominated.  It was a foregone conclusion.

    LeBron is brilliant-don't get me wrong.  Absolutely brilliant.

    But like I said.  Nobody's Jordan.  That's an impossible comparison, and isn't fair to LeBron, who's doing an incredible job.
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    The difference is there wasn't as much free agency back then...you can't pick up D Wade, Bosh, Love, Irving

    Granted he's doing it this year, but Jordan dominated.  It was a foregone conclusion.

    LeBron is brilliant-don't get me wrong.  Absolutely brilliant.

    But like I said.  Nobody's Jordan.  That's an impossible comparison, and isn't fair to LeBron, who's doing an incredible job.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 10:57 PM ET #12

    If LeBron DOES win this series somehow, I WOULD say that season ranks up there as one of the best of all time, including Jordan.

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    If LeBron DOES win this series somehow, I WOULD say that season ranks up there as one of the best of all time, including Jordan.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:00 PM ET #13

    I think even Reggie Miller was better than James
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:02 PM ET #14

    jdukes, completely agree with u on lebron.

    his biggest weakness was patience, but he knew that was going to be the most important factor of getting his team prepared, and guess what? hes in the god damn finals AGAIN.

    the complaining he does, u have to understand that with his size, even if a player smacks him, he wont budge, but if someone half his size was hit with even less force than lebron, they will get a foul. thats why he has to sometimes over-act against the plays made on him.  yes he seems like a little girl sometimes, but hes just leveling the playing field. the game isnt nearly as aggressive compared to the jordan era days.
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    jdukes, completely agree with u on lebron.

    his biggest weakness was patience, but he knew that was going to be the most important factor of getting his team prepared, and guess what? hes in the god damn finals AGAIN.

    the complaining he does, u have to understand that with his size, even if a player smacks him, he wont budge, but if someone half his size was hit with even less force than lebron, they will get a foul. thats why he has to sometimes over-act against the plays made on him.  yes he seems like a little girl sometimes, but hes just leveling the playing field. the game isnt nearly as aggressive compared to the jordan era days.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:03 PM ET #15

    I've been around all the years Jordan was playing

    The difference is Jordan was an assassin.  At the end of games, he simply wouldn't miss.

    The bulls could be down 5 with 3 to go, and you just knew what was going to happen.

    It was like Kobe, sometimes.

    James has trouble finishing games.
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    I've been around all the years Jordan was playing

    The difference is Jordan was an assassin.  At the end of games, he simply wouldn't miss.

    The bulls could be down 5 with 3 to go, and you just knew what was going to happen.

    It was like Kobe, sometimes.

    James has trouble finishing games.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:37 PM ET #16

    ...only the blind and the stupid.
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:42 PM ET #17

    Lebron wouldn't even have been able to play the style of basketball they used to play when Jordan dominated....

    If they called fouls back then like they do now, Jordan would have averaged 50+ a game...

    This is flag football compared to how physical the game used to be...
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    Lebron wouldn't even have been able to play the style of basketball they used to play when Jordan dominated....

    If they called fouls back then like they do now, Jordan would have averaged 50+ a game...

    This is flag football compared to how physical the game used to be...
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:44 PM ET #18

    You reach I teach...just a coincidence with that Jordan commercial on all the time? Just enjoy Lebron and what he has done. In the finals five straight years. MJ is the best, but Lebron will probably take this to 7.
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    You reach I teach...just a coincidence with that Jordan commercial on all the time? Just enjoy Lebron and what he has done. In the finals five straight years. MJ is the best, but Lebron will probably take this to 7.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:50 PM ET #19

    Pretty certain there is a handful of players who have led their team in points, rebounds, and assists for an entire season. In fact, I think Jordan and Bird are on that list. I believe Grant Hill did it twice, so...................................................................
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    Pretty certain there is a handful of players who have led their team in points, rebounds, and assists for an entire season. In fact, I think Jordan and Bird are on that list. I believe Grant Hill did it twice, so...................................................................
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:51 PM ET #20

    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Lebron wouldn't even have been able to play the style of basketball they used to play when Jordan dominated....If they called fouls back then like they do now, Jordan would have averaged 50+ a game...This is flag football compared to how physical the game used to be...

    It would make the game so much easier for lebron if it was like it used to be. He would have grown up playing that way and his physical tools are way better than ANYONE back then. There is no comparison to his size and athleticism back then. You can't cross generations and compare unlike players. Mj was a straight scorer. Lebron has a MUCH better all around game and actually makes his teammates better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

    Lebron wouldn't even have been able to play the style of basketball they used to play when Jordan dominated....If they called fouls back then like they do now, Jordan would have averaged 50+ a game...This is flag football compared to how physical the game used to be...

    It would make the game so much easier for lebron if it was like it used to be. He would have grown up playing that way and his physical tools are way better than ANYONE back then. There is no comparison to his size and athleticism back then. You can't cross generations and compare unlike players. Mj was a straight scorer. Lebron has a MUCH better all around game and actually makes his teammates better.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:53 PM ET #21

    LeBron had his chance and blew it. Cavs are done 1 JR Smith is a POS !!!
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    LeBron had his chance and blew it. Cavs are done 1 JR Smith is a POS !!!
     
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    I can't believe people are on a thread about mj and lebron talking about lebron getting calls....no one got calls like mj.....except maybe harden for some reason. Lebron gets fouled 8-10 more times a game probably that should be called but he is so big he just takes the contact
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    I can't believe people are on a thread about mj and lebron talking about lebron getting calls....no one got calls like mj.....except maybe harden for some reason. Lebron gets fouled 8-10 more times a game probably that should be called but he is so big he just takes the contact
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:54 PM ET #23

    Checking some stats, the Cavs averaged 27.5 3 point attempts per game, the Warriors 27

    The 95 96 bulls averaged 16.5 3PA (opponent 15.2 3PA)

    We're talking an extra 22 3PA per game (11 for each team)

    Game has changed.
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    Checking some stats, the Cavs averaged 27.5 3 point attempts per game, the Warriors 27

    The 95 96 bulls averaged 16.5 3PA (opponent 15.2 3PA)

    We're talking an extra 22 3PA per game (11 for each team)

    Game has changed.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2015 - 11:57 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by jdukes0004:

    I know more about basketball then you'll ever know Pack....I've played the sport....you know nothing about the game....How much you wanna bet that Kobe, Bird, Magic would be down 0-3 with this injured Cleveland roster...Jordan would have scored 65 in one game and still would be down 1-2 in this series....None of those players were asked to lead their team in points, rebounds and assists and be the leader and coach of the team...Lebron has to do it all....Basically he has to be the CEO, the Vice President, the manager, the chef, the dishwasher, the waitress and the hostess of the restaurant.....Don't say anything unless you have a decent debate....Pack your just a Lebron hater!!!.....I'm a basketball historian.....

    So of those 3 (assuming they are in there prime or close to it) would lose with a better team to Dirk in 2011?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdukes0004:

    I know more about basketball then you'll ever know Pack....I've played the sport....you know nothing about the game....How much you wanna bet that Kobe, Bird, Magic would be down 0-3 with this injured Cleveland roster...Jordan would have scored 65 in one game and still would be down 1-2 in this series....None of those players were asked to lead their team in points, rebounds and assists and be the leader and coach of the team...Lebron has to do it all....Basically he has to be the CEO, the Vice President, the manager, the chef, the dishwasher, the waitress and the hostess of the restaurant.....Don't say anything unless you have a decent debate....Pack your just a Lebron hater!!!.....I'm a basketball historian.....

    So of those 3 (assuming they are in there prime or close to it) would lose with a better team to Dirk in 2011?

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Checking some stats, the Cavs averaged 27.5 3 point attempts per game, the Warriors 27The 95 96 bulls averaged 16.5 3PA (opponent 15.2 3PA)We're talking an extra 22 3PA per game (11 for each team)Game has changed.




    The akward thing about that is 94-97 the 3 point line was 2 feet closer than it is now
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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser:

    Checking some stats, the Cavs averaged 27.5 3 point attempts per game, the Warriors 27The 95 96 bulls averaged 16.5 3PA (opponent 15.2 3PA)We're talking an extra 22 3PA per game (11 for each team)Game has changed.




    The akward thing about that is 94-97 the 3 point line was 2 feet closer than it is now
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