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    One play for tomorrow - Heat @ Suns

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    scalabrine
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:01 PM ET #1

    20-10 in last 30

    NBA record is 0-3 so need for a write-up because who would want to read it from a guy who is 0-3.

    The pick:

    Heat -5 over Suns

    I expect the line to rise as well.

    Basically it comes down to this:

    1. Goran Dragic still hates the Suns after his trade last year and is still taking shots at them in the media. Expect him to play above, possibly well above, his admittedly mediocre averages this year.

    You also have Gerald Green who is returning to PHX for the first time and also should be motivated to put up numbers above his averages.

    2. The Suns are still a hot mess. They are 1-9 in their last 10 and they beat a Hornets team because it was missing arguably one of their best offensive player and best perimeter defender in Nicolas Batum. Starting in his place? Jeremy Lin. Before that. I know full well what happened before that. They went down 40-16 to the LAKERS. As I type the Lakers are trailing the Kings 23-4 and are 9 pt underdogs in that game. 9 pt dogs...to the Kings and you went down 40-16...Yeah, I'll lay 5 to that team even on the road.

    3. You get an angry Heat team that just came off a loss to the hated rival Knicks who torched them shooting 56% from the floor. 

    Time to take it out on the lowly Suns.

    The line was supposed to be 4 but I guess it is already rising. If I get backdoored, so be it. 
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    20-10 in last 30

    NBA record is 0-3 so need for a write-up because who would want to read it from a guy who is 0-3.

    The pick:

    Heat -5 over Suns

    I expect the line to rise as well.

    Basically it comes down to this:

    1. Goran Dragic still hates the Suns after his trade last year and is still taking shots at them in the media. Expect him to play above, possibly well above, his admittedly mediocre averages this year.

    You also have Gerald Green who is returning to PHX for the first time and also should be motivated to put up numbers above his averages.

    2. The Suns are still a hot mess. They are 1-9 in their last 10 and they beat a Hornets team because it was missing arguably one of their best offensive player and best perimeter defender in Nicolas Batum. Starting in his place? Jeremy Lin. Before that. I know full well what happened before that. They went down 40-16 to the LAKERS. As I type the Lakers are trailing the Kings 23-4 and are 9 pt underdogs in that game. 9 pt dogs...to the Kings and you went down 40-16...Yeah, I'll lay 5 to that team even on the road.

    3. You get an angry Heat team that just came off a loss to the hated rival Knicks who torched them shooting 56% from the floor. 

    Time to take it out on the lowly Suns.

    The line was supposed to be 4 but I guess it is already rising. If I get backdoored, so be it. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:09 PM ET #2

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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:21 PM ET #3

    good write up
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    good write up
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:22 PM ET #4

    I will take a shot.  good luck.

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    I will take a shot.  good luck.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:27 PM ET #5

    I'm on it but for a different reason.  Fade the home team on the 2nd game back from a long road trip after they won the 1st game back. Philly applied to this today. They won the 1st game and got shelled today by Atlanta. 
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    I'm on it but for a different reason.  Fade the home team on the 2nd game back from a long road trip after they won the 1st game back. Philly applied to this today. They won the 1st game and got shelled today by Atlanta. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:27 PM ET #6

    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

    good write up

    If I lose this one, I don't know when I'll be back in this forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RodWoman:

    good write up

    If I lose this one, I don't know when I'll be back in this forum!
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:37 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    I'm on it but for a different reason.  Fade the home team on the 2nd game back from a long road trip after they won the 1st game back. Philly applied to this today. They won the 1st game and got shelled today by Atlanta. 
    I don't use that rule but I am wary of the FIRST game back for the home team after a long road trip...in any sport.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    I'm on it but for a different reason.  Fade the home team on the 2nd game back from a long road trip after they won the 1st game back. Philly applied to this today. They won the 1st game and got shelled today by Atlanta. 
    I don't use that rule but I am wary of the FIRST game back for the home team after a long road trip...in any sport.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:44 PM ET #8

    Can we slam this 2nd half under 108 here late night?  Are there going to be 30 more free throw's?  Is it possible for teams to play less defense than we saw in that 1st half?  I have the over 214.5 as well, another incentive to play some under.
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    Can we slam this 2nd half under 108 here late night?  Are there going to be 30 more free throw's?  Is it possible for teams to play less defense than we saw in that 1st half?  I have the over 214.5 as well, another incentive to play some under.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:45 PM ET #9

    Surprised the Lakers are favored as well.  Doubt this Kobe carry job continues.  These things are a crap shoot with a team up 25 heading to the 4th though.  But good lord that Laker bench.
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    Surprised the Lakers are favored as well.  Doubt this Kobe carry job continues.  These things are a crap shoot with a team up 25 heading to the 4th though.  But good lord that Laker bench.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 7, 2016 - 11:49 PM ET #10

    Totally agree with you POD for sure
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    Totally agree with you POD for sure
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 12:26 AM ET #11

    Excellent points!  I didn't even look at this game.  But your reasoning is sound.  Heat will win.  Love the Dragic angle.
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    Excellent points!  I didn't even look at this game.  But your reasoning is sound.  Heat will win.  Love the Dragic angle.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 12:42 AM ET #12

    I like the Dragic angle.  Def could be a nice play.  Haven't capped Friday yet, but GL Scal.  
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    I like the Dragic angle.  Def could be a nice play.  Haven't capped Friday yet, but GL Scal.  
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 8:52 AM ET #13

    @Tm Steven Papa

    @ Bizzey - ya see Bizzey, I saw this Kings line at -9 over the Lakers and thought the books were pulling a bait and switch.

    Who in their right mind would lay 9 with a team like the Kings? A team that gave up 8 straight points in Double OT to the Mavs to lose two nights prior. 

    That screams this team can't hold leads right? So the Lakers are the play.

    Having said that there's a different angle to support the Kings: the Lakers have been thriving without Kobe winning 3 of 4.

    Now Kobe was back and he'd disrupt the offensive flow against a pist off Kings team who had DWill sink them with a soul crushing 3 in the game before.

    So the Kings are the play right?

    Well every bone in my body would not allow me to bet the Kings laying 9 on principle, so I say it out but watched thinking the Kings should pull through with a win and cover as rusty Kobe shoots them off the floor.


    So what happens? Kings go up 23-4!

    Now folks, it doesn't get any better to start a game than that when you play a favorite.

    Then the Kings extend the lead to 27! Again, if you are not the Warriors this year or the Clippers of last year, that is about as big an in-game lead as you can ask for when trying to cover a number like 9. That is, as a bettor, you are in the best position possible to win your bet. The BEST!

    Mind you, 9 is a great number with that lead too! Because if the lead drops to around 16, the coach gets aggressive to not let it go to a key number like 10 (and this is more psychological than anything, not allowing a opponent to shrink the lead to single digits which can get the team leading quite vexed). So at -9 you have a huge lead and an aggressive coach who wants to maintain that lead at least 1 point over your spread!

    Great spot right?

    Not in the NBA.

    Lakers not only come back to comfortably cover worth the spread they took the lead by one 110-109, they almost WON the game, losing 115-118.
     
    Now you'd think someone must have gotten injured on the Kings or something right? Something to screw you at the worst possible time to lose the cover?

    Wrong. You are DEAD wrong.

    The best player of the night on the LAKERS got injured and left the game: D'Angelo Russell!

    If he doesn't leave the game after scoring 27 points, the Kings almost certainly lose outright!!!!



    This is a book's dream. They win all the dog bets. They win all the teasers on the Kings. They don't pay out a mountain of money on conservative Kings' ML bets, they win all the Lakers ML bets, and they win all the in-game ML bets on people chasing the Lakers as they came back (and this last lot comes in droves as bettors chase their losses for a big payout on the last game of the night with longshot bets).

    What a surprise...

    A 21 pt lead to open the game, extended to 27 is ultimately a loser, and not even a CLOSE loser when laying 9 with the home team.

    Betting the NBA....good luck to those who try this nightly.












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    @Tm Steven Papa

    @ Bizzey - ya see Bizzey, I saw this Kings line at -9 over the Lakers and thought the books were pulling a bait and switch.

    Who in their right mind would lay 9 with a team like the Kings? A team that gave up 8 straight points in Double OT to the Mavs to lose two nights prior. 

    That screams this team can't hold leads right? So the Lakers are the play.

    Having said that there's a different angle to support the Kings: the Lakers have been thriving without Kobe winning 3 of 4.

    Now Kobe was back and he'd disrupt the offensive flow against a pist off Kings team who had DWill sink them with a soul crushing 3 in the game before.

    So the Kings are the play right?

    Well every bone in my body would not allow me to bet the Kings laying 9 on principle, so I say it out but watched thinking the Kings should pull through with a win and cover as rusty Kobe shoots them off the floor.


    So what happens? Kings go up 23-4!

    Now folks, it doesn't get any better to start a game than that when you play a favorite.

    Then the Kings extend the lead to 27! Again, if you are not the Warriors this year or the Clippers of last year, that is about as big an in-game lead as you can ask for when trying to cover a number like 9. That is, as a bettor, you are in the best position possible to win your bet. The BEST!

    Mind you, 9 is a great number with that lead too! Because if the lead drops to around 16, the coach gets aggressive to not let it go to a key number like 10 (and this is more psychological than anything, not allowing a opponent to shrink the lead to single digits which can get the team leading quite vexed). So at -9 you have a huge lead and an aggressive coach who wants to maintain that lead at least 1 point over your spread!

    Great spot right?

    Not in the NBA.

    Lakers not only come back to comfortably cover worth the spread they took the lead by one 110-109, they almost WON the game, losing 115-118.
     
    Now you'd think someone must have gotten injured on the Kings or something right? Something to screw you at the worst possible time to lose the cover?

    Wrong. You are DEAD wrong.

    The best player of the night on the LAKERS got injured and left the game: D'Angelo Russell!

    If he doesn't leave the game after scoring 27 points, the Kings almost certainly lose outright!!!!



    This is a book's dream. They win all the dog bets. They win all the teasers on the Kings. They don't pay out a mountain of money on conservative Kings' ML bets, they win all the Lakers ML bets, and they win all the in-game ML bets on people chasing the Lakers as they came back (and this last lot comes in droves as bettors chase their losses for a big payout on the last game of the night with longshot bets).

    What a surprise...

    A 21 pt lead to open the game, extended to 27 is ultimately a loser, and not even a CLOSE loser when laying 9 with the home team.

    Betting the NBA....good luck to those who try this nightly.












     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 9:02 AM ET #14

    Watch out for the sucky Lakers folks. It's a team that is a dream fade on paper but some nights they have spurts like Kareem and Magic are still on the floor.

    Two years ago, the Knicks gave up 51 points in a QUARTER against a Laker team that was playing its entire (atrocious) bench!!!

    You can't even fade one of the worst teams in the NBA to get a bet home. And now that the Sixers have Ish Smith giving 18 and 10 every night, they are a problem with high spreads.

    And the night you try to bet the Lakers or Sixers? They'll get blown off the floor by 30.

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    Watch out for the sucky Lakers folks. It's a team that is a dream fade on paper but some nights they have spurts like Kareem and Magic are still on the floor.

    Two years ago, the Knicks gave up 51 points in a QUARTER against a Laker team that was playing its entire (atrocious) bench!!!

    You can't even fade one of the worst teams in the NBA to get a bet home. And now that the Sixers have Ish Smith giving 18 and 10 every night, they are a problem with high spreads.

    And the night you try to bet the Lakers or Sixers? They'll get blown off the floor by 30.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 10:05 AM ET #15

    On this as well. Such an advantage 1-4 and pretty much a wash at the 5 w/ Tyson vs Whiteside.

     GL sir
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    On this as well. Such an advantage 1-4 and pretty much a wash at the 5 w/ Tyson vs Whiteside.

     GL sir
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 10:12 AM ET #16

    Back to a Suns game. Ahhhh
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    Back to a Suns game. Ahhhh
     
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    GLAD bro, I'm on Dallas tonight against a sorry a$$ Bucks team 
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    GLAD bro, I'm on Dallas tonight against a sorry a$$ Bucks team 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 10:17 AM ET #18

    I think this game goes over 197 1/2.  Both teams score 100.  Not going to take a side, I like Phoenix a little bit just to keep it close, but possibly Miami winning would lean toward the under, I like the over. 
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    I think this game goes over 197 1/2.  Both teams score 100.  Not going to take a side, I like Phoenix a little bit just to keep it close, but possibly Miami winning would lean toward the under, I like the over. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 3:26 PM ET #19

    heat-5 bol 
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    heat-5 bol 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 4:27 PM ET #20

    Like the under here if had to make a play.  The Heat are arguably the toughest team for me to figure out.  They have my number as do a few other teams.  Your points on the Suns former players very valid as usual.
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    Like the under here if had to make a play.  The Heat are arguably the toughest team for me to figure out.  They have my number as do a few other teams.  Your points on the Suns former players very valid as usual.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2016 - 4:30 PM ET #21

    scal the man good to see u Miami  it is everytime I see your pick I feel like a kid on chrismas morning its truly a gift thanks good luck to us

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    scal the man good to see u Miami  it is everytime I see your pick I feel like a kid on chrismas morning its truly a gift thanks good luck to us

     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2016 - 12:02 AM ET #22

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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2016 - 12:03 AM ET #23

    Risk (and all above) - good to see ya man!


    FINALLY I won one

    And we definitely would not have won this too close for comfort game if not for the ex-Suns unceremoniously departed, playing way above their heads:

    Dragic 22 and 7a (averages 12 and 5)

    Green 21 and 4r (averages 11 and 2) 9/14 shooting

    And believe me, without those two performances, we do NOT win.

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to find these spots, ya just have to recognize them when they arise.

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    Risk (and all above) - good to see ya man!


    FINALLY I won one

    And we definitely would not have won this too close for comfort game if not for the ex-Suns unceremoniously departed, playing way above their heads:

    Dragic 22 and 7a (averages 12 and 5)

    Green 21 and 4r (averages 11 and 2) 9/14 shooting

    And believe me, without those two performances, we do NOT win.

    Doesn't take a rocket scientist to find these spots, ya just have to recognize them when they arise.

     
    dota
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2016 - 12:03 AM ET #24

    had heat -5 win and under P 198 (buy ' pts ) lucky 
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    had heat -5 win and under P 198 (buy ' pts ) lucky 
     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 9, 2016 - 12:20 AM ET #25

    Nice call.

    I forgot Amare plays for Miami. He came off the bench and had a few blocks and rebounds. Big night for him, too. When I lived in Phoenix, I'd see him out at tons of bars and restaurants. 
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    Nice call.

    I forgot Amare plays for Miami. He came off the bench and had a few blocks and rebounds. Big night for him, too. When I lived in Phoenix, I'd see him out at tons of bars and restaurants. 
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