OFFICIAL PBA 2010 FIESTA CUP THREAD

huge play tonight on baltimore orioles+1.5/1.0 and a small play on boston red sox+1.0, GL guys actually i bet on every game tonight but only for a very very small amount..

KNOCKOUT WILDCARD: Coca Cola vs. Rain or Shine

The Tigers and Elasto Painters have met twice this season--- both during the elimination stage with both games being won handily by the latter. In their first meeting in April, they won by 11 points and recently last June (an all-crucial match-up to have a chance at a quarters slot) by the same margin.

So Rain or Shine dominates Coke from all angles, correct?

Probably so. In both games, we saw Coke go tit-for-tat in the first canto only to be left behind in the ensuing quarter. Combined numbers for the first two games: 23 point lead for ROS after the fist half--- meaning the bench mob for the Elasto Painters is doing their job well at this stage (or actually any other part of the ball game when they get their playing time). This is where the likes of Tang, Arana and especially Chan gets game-changing stats. Conversely, Coke is so thin from the bench that most of the time this is their Achilles heel in most games they have lost.

So, can we expect the same for this crucial tiff? Will bench be again a factor?

Yes and yes. If the new imports (Nealy and Williams) can negate each other and main men Norwood and Mercado contributes what is expected, then the bench will decide this one.

Various sites have still not released the lines for this one but i'd like to assume a COKE+4.5 vs. ROS line would be released.

Even then, even if the books give us 6 or 6.5 for Coke, i am sticking my guns with the Rain or Shine squad because they are ultimately the better team from 1-10. This depth would be crucial since they have been playing for 2-3 consecutive playdates now.

Rain or Shine for a healthy bet (3-5 units)

IMO, locals will most likely give us 4-6 points for Rain or Shine.

Still like you said, Rain or Shine is the better team here.

i doubt coke gets that may points as an underdog. air21 was only a 4 point underdog, why give coke more than 4 points? it wouldn't make sense.

i'm going with coke ML. the last game of ros showed how weak they are in the middle. coke's big men will take advantage of this. although coke lose their last outing against ros, it was a close game for 3 1/2 quarters. i expect coke to win the rebounding and ultimately the game. although i think ros is a better team, they don't match up well against coke.

if coke gets more then 4 points, although i doubt it, i'm betting coke ml and coke whatever the spread is

i seriously don't know how coke got outrebounded in their last outing against ros, but i'm pretty sure it won't happen again.

coke+2 yung line

if the line is below 4...which i think is currently at coke+2.. ill go with ROS here because i dont think coke has an import stopper...nealy will be able to score more and coke doesnt have any athletic wing and guard players to match up on mercado and norwood...coke is bigger with asi and espino at the middle but i think ROS will exploit there running game here because obviously asi and espino are a lot slower going back and forth... 

you cant run though if you cant crash the boards, and there lies the problem with ros. if kramer could abuse the ros bigs, what more taulava.

 
lts, i dont mean to sound redundant but is this your bet for last night's game (this morning, philippine time) 'cause you posted that your leans were det, bos and oak. i tail your mlb picks and made some off em. thanks!

wallet: for some reason ROS outrebounded coke the last time they met..i think its because ROS are more athletic and quicker to those 50/50 balls thats why i can see them winning tom...and regarding kramer he was able to dominate the boards early because norwood and nealy was in early foul trouble...

on the contrary, kramer was more dominant on the boards in the 2nd half when both nealy and norwood were no longer considered to be in foul trouble, thus my post during the game ranting about why caloy garcia played hrabak during crucial stretches when clearly he couldn't grab a rebound even at gun point. although i still think ros is the better team, i just think they don't match up well against coke. whoever wins the rebounding battle wins the game, and i'm betting coke outrebounds them this time.

 

for the record, i also think norwood is one of the most overrated players in the pba now. he can't play point, he doesn't have a consistent jumpshot and he doesn't finish well off the dribble. he can finish shots under the basket though from an assist and he could play defense decently. in no way though should he be considered the face of ros. sol mercado is far more important to the team than him.

BOL to u...im going with ROS if its -4 or below... :)

13plays for tonight

wnba plays
new york liberty +9.5
san antonio silver stars -1.5
indiana fever -3.5
phoenix mercury -3.5

mlb plays
atlanta braves +1.0/pk
baltimore orioles +1.5/1.0
boston red sox +1.0
texas rangers -2.0/1.5
houston astros -1.0
los angeles angels -1.0/pk
milwaukee brewers -1.0
arizona diamondbacks pk
oakland athletics +1.5/1.0

BOL guys!

with u on Indiana fever and phoenix mercury its41... :)

im on sas-1 chi+4 and phoenix-3.5

hopefully we cash sas and phoenix and we both have a good day

silver stars & mercury

Wow, it's Coke+2.5 at BET365 and +2 at MegaSports. Oh really, after the "sort of" domination from ROS in the first two meetings?

Could Binondo be at work?

i wonder how much you factor in the line considering this is a playoff game. i WANTED a 4.5 line (which we will probably get tomorrow from our locals) but something below 3 is really, really making me uncomfortable because of the influences of the powers that be.

i think the spread is set that way because of the performance of both teams last sunday... coke routed sta while ros almost lost the game after allowing air21 back in the game after big lead...

 

the line is just about right. air21 got 4 pts against ros. coke being the better team should get less then 4. unless you consider the line of air21 wrong, with air 21 covering, i don't think you should be suspicious of this coke spread.

IMO, Pretty good game later. I think if there's money to be made it's in the NCAA later and in the World Cup.

good start, 3-0 so far..

its! ca you post your mlb picks much earlier?

ok i'll try