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    NUGGETS @ LAKERS: It's the 'Ol Trusty "The Oscarsa and Grammys take over the Staples Center" angle!

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    2017 Record: 2-4

    The pick:

    LAKERS +2 over Nuggets

    Late post because I didn't have confirmation on D'Angelo.

    Every year, the Oscars and Grammy's and all the stars, with their self-aggrandizing glitz and glory, descend on the Staples Center.

    And every year, all the teams that play at Staples, leave for long road trips.

    I looked into how the Lakers responded to the game before they left for this road trip, particularly with the taking Lakers teams in recent years.

    Like the previous "Worst loss in history bounce back" angle that we used to win the Blazer game, if this angle works for tanking teams, it should most certainly work for a Laker team that is not tanking (and this team is not tanking. That is why Walton is the coach).

    Tonight they play their final home game before the takeover, 7 of 8 on the road. How did tanking teams in previous years fair.

    1. 2015-2016 Lakers: 17-65 (tanking)

     Before the Lakers left for 7 of 8 on the road in 2016 the Lakers beat the Timberwolves 119-115 as 4.5 pt Dogs.

    2. 2014-2015 Lakers: 21-61 (tanking)

    Before the Lakers left for 5 of 6 on the road the Lakers beat the Bulls outright 123-118 as a whopping 9.5 pt dogs.

    3. 2014-2013 Lakers: 27-55 (tanking)

    Before the Lakers left for 7 game road trip, they covered against the Cavs 118-120 as 4 pt dogs.

    If you want to go back further with much better Laker teams we can:

    2013 road trip: 111-106 Win over Charlotte (No cover at -8)

    2012 road trip: Won and covered 106-73 over Charlotte as 12.5 pt favorites.

    I could keep going. Is this a HUGE sample size? No it's quite small at 4-1 ATS in the past 5. The point being, tanking teams VALUE their opportunities to win because a slew of losses on a road trip might be forthcoming.

    And this Laker team is really struggling, and just game back from a 3 game road trip (where they were swept by the Mavs Blazers and Jazz) and now embark on another 7 of 8.

    This exponentially increases the value of this home game for their confidence and as a small increase to their win total but an increase they haven't enjoyed of late.

    But there are other reasons to take the Lakers.

    1. D'Angleo Russell returns tonight without a minutes restriction. He is by far their best player and solidifies the PG position as well as enhances trust in the starting lineup (despite Lou going off of late). He's apparently worth (up to a) whopping 3.5 pts on the line to Vegas because the Lakers went from +6.5 to +10 for two recent games at the Blazers with him in and out of the lineup respectively. That's quite significant from their metrics at least. 

    2. Nikola Jokic, the Nuggets best player by far of late, will not play. He averaged 23.9, 11.1 and 4.9 assists in January. All of that is now out of the lineup.

    3. The stain of the Mavericks "Worst loss in history" has not been rectified. The Lakers had a very tough trip after that going to Portland (where they celebrated the '77 Championship team and then immediately had to go into the elevation in Utah at 13 pt dogs). They covered both games and were in both games very late as they fought for wins not covers. This is a team that wants a win of any kind at the moment.

    4. Finally, they just saw Denver on 1/17/2017 where they lost at home (with Jokic who had 29 and 15 that night and he'll be out here) in a very competitive game 126-121. It's very GOOD to have just played a team and have seen their offensive and defensive sets.

    5. Finally they've had a 5 days separating this game from their last game  to stew about their recent slew of losses and that Dallas game. And now they can right the scarlet-letter wrong in front of the home fans before they leave for what might seem like forever.

    I'd like to note the Lakers were very competitive in the last Jazz game (against an angry Jazz team coming off a loss) even though their plane landed at 2:45 in the morning and they didn't practice, running on adrenaline and still covering comfortably and playing gutty in an 8 pt loss.

    Julius Randle will not play. Can't have it all. Lakers have dropped 8 of 9. Nuggets have won 7 of 9. Good to be against what is typically public favoritism because of those streaks.

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    2017 Record: 2-4

    The pick:

    LAKERS +2 over Nuggets

    Late post because I didn't have confirmation on D'Angelo.

    Every year, the Oscars and Grammy's and all the stars, with their self-aggrandizing glitz and glory, descend on the Staples Center.

    And every year, all the teams that play at Staples, leave for long road trips.

    I looked into how the Lakers responded to the game before they left for this road trip, particularly with the taking Lakers teams in recent years.

    Like the previous "Worst loss in history bounce back" angle that we used to win the Blazer game, if this angle works for tanking teams, it should most certainly work for a Laker team that is not tanking (and this team is not tanking. That is why Walton is the coach).

    Tonight they play their final home game before the takeover, 7 of 8 on the road. How did tanking teams in previous years fair.

    1. 2015-2016 Lakers: 17-65 (tanking)

     Before the Lakers left for 7 of 8 on the road in 2016 the Lakers beat the Timberwolves 119-115 as 4.5 pt Dogs.

    2. 2014-2015 Lakers: 21-61 (tanking)

    Before the Lakers left for 5 of 6 on the road the Lakers beat the Bulls outright 123-118 as a whopping 9.5 pt dogs.

    3. 2014-2013 Lakers: 27-55 (tanking)

    Before the Lakers left for 7 game road trip, they covered against the Cavs 118-120 as 4 pt dogs.

    If you want to go back further with much better Laker teams we can:

    2013 road trip: 111-106 Win over Charlotte (No cover at -8)

    2012 road trip: Won and covered 106-73 over Charlotte as 12.5 pt favorites.

    I could keep going. Is this a HUGE sample size? No it's quite small at 4-1 ATS in the past 5. The point being, tanking teams VALUE their opportunities to win because a slew of losses on a road trip might be forthcoming.

    And this Laker team is really struggling, and just game back from a 3 game road trip (where they were swept by the Mavs Blazers and Jazz) and now embark on another 7 of 8.

    This exponentially increases the value of this home game for their confidence and as a small increase to their win total but an increase they haven't enjoyed of late.

    But there are other reasons to take the Lakers.

    1. D'Angleo Russell returns tonight without a minutes restriction. He is by far their best player and solidifies the PG position as well as enhances trust in the starting lineup (despite Lou going off of late). He's apparently worth (up to a) whopping 3.5 pts on the line to Vegas because the Lakers went from +6.5 to +10 for two recent games at the Blazers with him in and out of the lineup respectively. That's quite significant from their metrics at least. 

    2. Nikola Jokic, the Nuggets best player by far of late, will not play. He averaged 23.9, 11.1 and 4.9 assists in January. All of that is now out of the lineup.

    3. The stain of the Mavericks "Worst loss in history" has not been rectified. The Lakers had a very tough trip after that going to Portland (where they celebrated the '77 Championship team and then immediately had to go into the elevation in Utah at 13 pt dogs). They covered both games and were in both games very late as they fought for wins not covers. This is a team that wants a win of any kind at the moment.

    4. Finally, they just saw Denver on 1/17/2017 where they lost at home (with Jokic who had 29 and 15 that night and he'll be out here) in a very competitive game 126-121. It's very GOOD to have just played a team and have seen their offensive and defensive sets.

    5. Finally they've had a 5 days separating this game from their last game  to stew about their recent slew of losses and that Dallas game. And now they can right the scarlet-letter wrong in front of the home fans before they leave for what might seem like forever.

    I'd like to note the Lakers were very competitive in the last Jazz game (against an angry Jazz team coming off a loss) even though their plane landed at 2:45 in the morning and they didn't practice, running on adrenaline and still covering comfortably and playing gutty in an 8 pt loss.

    Julius Randle will not play. Can't have it all. Lakers have dropped 8 of 9. Nuggets have won 7 of 9. Good to be against what is typically public favoritism because of those streaks.

     
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    I looked at this game as well, Scal. I liked the Spurs more but this was certainly up there. Probably my second choice. I think if they lose here the long road trip also poses the possibility of losing 10 in a row. Lose tonight and then lose to the hot Wizards, the Celtics (long time rivals) and Knicks (Phil does not like losing to the Lakers) and now you are looking at 7 losses and fatigue on a long road trip. 

     Good luck!
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    I looked at this game as well, Scal. I liked the Spurs more but this was certainly up there. Probably my second choice. I think if they lose here the long road trip also poses the possibility of losing 10 in a row. Lose tonight and then lose to the hot Wizards, the Celtics (long time rivals) and Knicks (Phil does not like losing to the Lakers) and now you are looking at 7 losses and fatigue on a long road trip. 

     Good luck!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by begginerboy:

    I looked at this game as well, Scal. I liked the Spurs more but this was certainly up there. Probably my second choice. I think if they lose here the long road trip also poses the possibility of losing 10 in a row. Lose tonight and then lose to the hot Wizards, the Celtics (long time rivals) and Knicks (Phil does not like losing to the Lakers) and now you are looking at 7 losses and fatigue on a long road trip. 

     Good luck!

    Good to see ya BB. I certainly understand taking the Spurs after a SU loss to the Mavs. While I would get an elite team, i would have to deal with the -9. I'll just take the +2 and run with what should be a rested and motivated Lakers team whi finally have their PG back and who STILL must take at least one down after that Dallas loss. It's just a matter of comfort with the spreads (and I can't stomach big ones anymore). 
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    I looked at this game as well, Scal. I liked the Spurs more but this was certainly up there. Probably my second choice. I think if they lose here the long road trip also poses the possibility of losing 10 in a row. Lose tonight and then lose to the hot Wizards, the Celtics (long time rivals) and Knicks (Phil does not like losing to the Lakers) and now you are looking at 7 losses and fatigue on a long road trip. 

     Good luck!

    Good to see ya BB. I certainly understand taking the Spurs after a SU loss to the Mavs. While I would get an elite team, i would have to deal with the -9. I'll just take the +2 and run with what should be a rested and motivated Lakers team whi finally have their PG back and who STILL must take at least one down after that Dallas loss. It's just a matter of comfort with the spreads (and I can't stomach big ones anymore). 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2017 - 8:35 PM ET #4

    Spurs/Lakers parlay phuck it why not
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2017 - 9:06 PM ET #8

    LAKESHOW  BOL
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2017 - 9:13 PM ET #9

    Nuggets it is Thank You
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    BOL Scal I like it 
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    Nuggets ML -110

    Nuggets 116-115 ? That seems legit to me
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    Nuggets 116-115 ? That seems legit to me
     
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    Posted: Jan. 31, 2017 - 11:36 PM ET #12

    Nuggets just won in LA 2 weeks ago when Russell played granted he got hurt and left game but when he was in it didn't matter. LA made the score look close 4th qtr garbage time scoring. Nuggets gonna take this one to. 2-5 Jan for you coming up.
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    Nuggets just won in LA 2 weeks ago when Russell played granted he got hurt and left game but when he was in it didn't matter. LA made the score look close 4th qtr garbage time scoring. Nuggets gonna take this one to. 2-5 Jan for you coming up.
     
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    Nuggets are not even trying and winning by 5, pound the second half you guys! easy! nuggets -3 and ml
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    Nuggets are not even trying and winning by 5, pound the second half you guys! easy! nuggets -3 and ml
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbawizguru99:

    Nuggets are not even trying and winning by 5, pound the second half you guys! easy! nuggets -3 and ml

    Just create your own thread if you have a separate pick. 
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    Nuggets are not even trying and winning by 5, pound the second half you guys! easy! nuggets -3 and ml

    Just create your own thread if you have a separate pick. 
     
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    Scal you legend  
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    thanks scal!! your the man!!
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    Good stuff scal , GReat work 
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    Wrong again Jfelty, whats your record?
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2017 - 12:58 AM ET #19

    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Good to see ya BB. I certainly understand taking the Spurs after a SU loss to the Mavs. While I would get an elite team, i would have to deal with the -9. I'll just take the +2 and run with what should be a rested and motivated Lakers team whi finally have their PG back and who STILL must take at least one down after that Dallas loss. It's just a matter of comfort with the spreads (and I can't stomach big ones anymore). 

    Neither game was easy to stomach, but they both hit. Good Job! 
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    Good to see ya BB. I certainly understand taking the Spurs after a SU loss to the Mavs. While I would get an elite team, i would have to deal with the -9. I'll just take the +2 and run with what should be a rested and motivated Lakers team whi finally have their PG back and who STILL must take at least one down after that Dallas loss. It's just a matter of comfort with the spreads (and I can't stomach big ones anymore). 

    Neither game was easy to stomach, but they both hit. Good Job! 
     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2017 - 12:58 AM ET #20

    Wonderful pick as always supported with an awsome angle. Thanks Scal! 

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    Wonderful pick as always supported with an awsome angle. Thanks Scal! 

     
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2017 - 12:59 AM ET #21

    you be tha man scal
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2017 - 1:09 AM ET #22

    Well done 
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2017 - 1:58 AM ET #23

    Handshake brother
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    Posted: Feb. 1, 2017 - 2:15 AM ET #24

    Wish you posted earlier, would've tailed. Good call 
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    Lou Williams Lou Money .. nice call  
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