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    LeBron haters need to STFU

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    StackMyLoot
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:14 AM ET #26

    This guy said he have no support cast despite having the biggest payroll in NBA history.lol
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    This guy said he have no support cast despite having the biggest payroll in NBA history.lol
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:15 AM ET #27

    Draymond Green might be finals MVP when it's all said and done. 
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    Draymond Green might be finals MVP when it's all said and done. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:16 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:

    This guy said he have no support cast despite having the biggest payroll in NBA history.lol

    If payroll equated to good support cast the Spurs would have been terrible for the past decade.


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    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:

    This guy said he have no support cast despite having the biggest payroll in NBA history.lol

    If payroll equated to good support cast the Spurs would have been terrible for the past decade.


     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:17 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    It comes with the territory.. If James wants to be considered up there as one of the best ever.. he needs to back it up.. You need to tell the media to STFU....To me he is maybe a top 10 player.   No way should he be considered top 3.   Time and Time again when he needs to put up 40 and carry his team he never delivers.  Curry stepped up tonight - True MVP. Currently best player in the World. 

    His career season and playoff stats should definetly put him in everbodys top 10. But beyond that it gets subjective. Cant give LeBron a pass for the Dallas series, and many things I could go on. But he truly wasted too many years of his prime under a subpar coach in Mike Brown and team in Cleveland prior to leaving Miami. LeBron needed a Phil Jackson or Pop to set him straight. He that in the form of Pat Riley in Miami but didnt like conceding power so thats on him. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:

    It comes with the territory.. If James wants to be considered up there as one of the best ever.. he needs to back it up.. You need to tell the media to STFU....To me he is maybe a top 10 player.   No way should he be considered top 3.   Time and Time again when he needs to put up 40 and carry his team he never delivers.  Curry stepped up tonight - True MVP. Currently best player in the World. 

    His career season and playoff stats should definetly put him in everbodys top 10. But beyond that it gets subjective. Cant give LeBron a pass for the Dallas series, and many things I could go on. But he truly wasted too many years of his prime under a subpar coach in Mike Brown and team in Cleveland prior to leaving Miami. LeBron needed a Phil Jackson or Pop to set him straight. He that in the form of Pat Riley in Miami but didnt like conceding power so thats on him. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:17 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:


    He did that all last playoffs and it didn't work. You need a support cast to win in the league.

    No he didn't, he averaged 35.8 points a game in last year's finals and this year he has a better supporting cast.  The supporting cast can't do jack for you if the main is not taking the lead

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    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:


    He did that all last playoffs and it didn't work. You need a support cast to win in the league.

    No he didn't, he averaged 35.8 points a game in last year's finals and this year he has a better supporting cast.  The supporting cast can't do jack for you if the main is not taking the lead

     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:19 AM ET #31

    Enough with the
    Lebron need more players and better coach. He would lose as well cause all he do is pass the ball when he gets it.
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    Enough with the
    Lebron need more players and better coach. He would lose as well cause all he do is pass the ball when he gets it.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:20 AM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by AD9323:


    His career season and playoff stats should definetly put him in everbodys top 10. But beyond that it gets subjective. Cant give LeBron a pass for the Dallas series, and many things I could go on. But he truly wasted too many years of his prime under a subpar coach in Mike Brown and team in Cleveland prior to leaving Miami. LeBron needed a Phil Jackson or Pop to set him straight. He that in the form of Pat Riley in Miami but didnt like conceding power so thats on him. 


    Lets just face it.  He just does not have the "It Factor" Killer instinct that the great ones have.  Jordan had it..Kobe had it... James clearly does not have it.    He's a side kick to a super star - Dwayne Wade.   




    Mayweather bet 450000 on
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    Quote Originally Posted by AD9323:


    His career season and playoff stats should definetly put him in everbodys top 10. But beyond that it gets subjective. Cant give LeBron a pass for the Dallas series, and many things I could go on. But he truly wasted too many years of his prime under a subpar coach in Mike Brown and team in Cleveland prior to leaving Miami. LeBron needed a Phil Jackson or Pop to set him straight. He that in the form of Pat Riley in Miami but didnt like conceding power so thats on him. 


    Lets just face it.  He just does not have the "It Factor" Killer instinct that the great ones have.  Jordan had it..Kobe had it... James clearly does not have it.    He's a side kick to a super star - Dwayne Wade.   




     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:20 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:

    Enough with the
    Lebron need more players and better coach. He would lose as well cause all he do is pass the ball when he gets it.

    And if he didn't you'd probably accuse him of being a ball hog 
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:

    Enough with the
    Lebron need more players and better coach. He would lose as well cause all he do is pass the ball when he gets it.

    And if he didn't you'd probably accuse him of being a ball hog 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:21 AM ET #34

    6 straight Finals appearances areant that impressive when you look at the weak East. Doesnt mean you should lose not to make the Finals though...but being exposed definetly doesnt help your case in making that record impressive
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    6 straight Finals appearances areant that impressive when you look at the weak East. Doesnt mean you should lose not to make the Finals though...but being exposed definetly doesnt help your case in making that record impressive
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:21 AM ET #35

    When the Warrior's wrap up the series on Monday the blame has to fall on James. He was the guy calling the shots on building the roster, he's the guy who sent David Blatt out the door for Lue LMAO.
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    When the Warrior's wrap up the series on Monday the blame has to fall on James. He was the guy calling the shots on building the roster, he's the guy who sent David Blatt out the door for Lue LMAO.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:21 AM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by CrackAttack:

    No he didn't, he averaged 35.8 points a game in last year's finals and this year he has a better supporting cast.  The supporting cast can't do jack for you if the main is not taking the lead


    Lol tell GSW that in games 1-2. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrackAttack:

    No he didn't, he averaged 35.8 points a game in last year's finals and this year he has a better supporting cast.  The supporting cast can't do jack for you if the main is not taking the lead


    Lol tell GSW that in games 1-2. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:23 AM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:


    And if he didn't you'd probably accuse him of being a ball hog 


    That's what all the greast do in the NBA Finals did you just started watching the NBA yesterday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:


    And if he didn't you'd probably accuse him of being a ball hog 


    That's what all the greast do in the NBA Finals did you just started watching the NBA yesterday?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:24 AM ET #38

    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:

    Enough with the
    Lebron need more players and better coach. He would lose as well cause all he do is pass the ball when he gets it.

    He got the players he wanted.   He wanted Love.  He made the Cavs trade Wiggins.   He got Blatt fired.  He got the guy he wanted in Tyrone Lue who gets the title of 'head coach'.  Everything is on him and he failed again.   
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:

    Enough with the
    Lebron need more players and better coach. He would lose as well cause all he do is pass the ball when he gets it.

    He got the players he wanted.   He wanted Love.  He made the Cavs trade Wiggins.   He got Blatt fired.  He got the guy he wanted in Tyrone Lue who gets the title of 'head coach'.  Everything is on him and he failed again.   
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:24 AM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:



    Lets just face it.  He just does not have the "It Factor" Killer instinct that the great ones have.  Jordan had it..Kobe had it... James clearly does not have it.    He's a side kick to a super star - Dwayne Wade.   





    I agree with Lebron not having a killer instinct. But if you think LeBron was a sidekick in Miami you are just letting your hate shine thru. Wade was injured half the time and and could barely stay heathy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:



    Lets just face it.  He just does not have the "It Factor" Killer instinct that the great ones have.  Jordan had it..Kobe had it... James clearly does not have it.    He's a side kick to a super star - Dwayne Wade.   





    I agree with Lebron not having a killer instinct. But if you think LeBron was a sidekick in Miami you are just letting your hate shine thru. Wade was injured half the time and and could barely stay heathy.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:24 AM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:


    And if he didn't you'd probably accuse him of being a ball hog 


    That's what all the greats do in the NBA Finals did you just started watching the NBA yesterday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:


    And if he didn't you'd probably accuse him of being a ball hog 


    That's what all the greats do in the NBA Finals did you just started watching the NBA yesterday?
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:26 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    He got the players he wanted.   He wanted Love.  He made the Cavs trade Wiggins.   He got Blatt fired.  He got the guy he wanted in Tyrone Lue who gets the title of 'head coach'.  Everything is on him and he failed again.   

    I agree and thats the problem right there. It isnt his job to hire the coach and players he needs. That should be a GMs job. The reason Miami had the success it had is becsuse Pat Riley wouldnt stand for that crap. 
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    He got the players he wanted.   He wanted Love.  He made the Cavs trade Wiggins.   He got Blatt fired.  He got the guy he wanted in Tyrone Lue who gets the title of 'head coach'.  Everything is on him and he failed again.   

    I agree and thats the problem right there. It isnt his job to hire the coach and players he needs. That should be a GMs job. The reason Miami had the success it had is becsuse Pat Riley wouldnt stand for that crap. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:27 AM ET #42

    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:



    That's what all the greats do in the NBA Finals did you just started watching the NBA yesterday?

    Did you see what he did last game? Did you see what he did in the playoffs last year?

    Great teams win basketball, not great individuals. People like you and media just love to give all the praise to the superstar when teams win and criticize them when they lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StackMyLoot:



    That's what all the greats do in the NBA Finals did you just started watching the NBA yesterday?

    Did you see what he did last game? Did you see what he did in the playoffs last year?

    Great teams win basketball, not great individuals. People like you and media just love to give all the praise to the superstar when teams win and criticize them when they lose.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:27 AM ET #43

    Quote Originally Posted by AD9323:


    I agree with Lebron not having a killer instinct. But if you think LeBron was a sidekick in Miami you are just letting your hate shine thru. Wade was injured half the time and and could barely stay heathy.


    Wade could keep Lebron mentality in control to where on Cavs he is the leader and when things go wrong or tough he has nobody to fall back on for support thats been there before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AD9323:


    I agree with Lebron not having a killer instinct. But if you think LeBron was a sidekick in Miami you are just letting your hate shine thru. Wade was injured half the time and and could barely stay heathy.


    Wade could keep Lebron mentality in control to where on Cavs he is the leader and when things go wrong or tough he has nobody to fall back on for support thats been there before.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:28 AM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    He got the players he wanted.   He wanted Love.  He made the Cavs trade Wiggins.   He got Blatt fired.  He got the guy he wanted in Tyrone Lue who gets the title of 'head coach'.  Everything is on him and he failed again.   

    So he's not a great general manager. That is a GM issue and doesn't take away from him being a great player. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    He got the players he wanted.   He wanted Love.  He made the Cavs trade Wiggins.   He got Blatt fired.  He got the guy he wanted in Tyrone Lue who gets the title of 'head coach'.  Everything is on him and he failed again.   

    So he's not a great general manager. That is a GM issue and doesn't take away from him being a great player. 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:31 AM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    He got the players he wanted.   He wanted Love.  He made the Cavs trade Wiggins.   He got Blatt fired.  He got the guy he wanted in Tyrone Lue who gets the title of 'head coach'.  Everything is on him and he failed again.   


    Time to blame Dan Gilbert again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BWS77:


    He got the players he wanted.   He wanted Love.  He made the Cavs trade Wiggins.   He got Blatt fired.  He got the guy he wanted in Tyrone Lue who gets the title of 'head coach'.  Everything is on him and he failed again.   


    Time to blame Dan Gilbert again.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:32 AM ET #46

    I'm done here. I'm not going to change anybody's opinion so this is futile. Y'all can hate on LBJ all you want but it won't stop him from going down as one of the all time greats 

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    I'm done here. I'm not going to change anybody's opinion so this is futile. Y'all can hate on LBJ all you want but it won't stop him from going down as one of the all time greats 

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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:32 AM ET #47

    Quote Originally Posted by AD9323:

    Getting tired of all the crap im reading and Im not even a LeBron fan. I think everyone knows by know he will never be the GOAT,  but people on here hating for no legit reason on here says more about you than LeBron. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by AD9323:

    Getting tired of all the crap im reading and Im not even a LeBron fan. I think everyone knows by know he will never be the GOAT,  but people on here hating for no legit reason on here says more about you than LeBron. 
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:35 AM ET #48

    Lebron = Jim Kelly. Get to the big dance and choke..... No heart and whines too much. He can bulldoze over people to the hoop but instead will pass or turn it over. He's too dumb and can't figure it out. Classic example is when he drove it in the lane pump faked and got Draymond up in the air. You take the contact for possible and one or ft's. He instead passes to Thompson who gets hacked. Of course he missed both free throws. You are the captain of the team. You do not shy away when it counts in crunch time. He's got all the talent in the world but isn't bright sometimes and that causes all the negativity. Not to mention he's been pretty damn cocky since day 1.
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    Lebron = Jim Kelly. Get to the big dance and choke..... No heart and whines too much. He can bulldoze over people to the hoop but instead will pass or turn it over. He's too dumb and can't figure it out. Classic example is when he drove it in the lane pump faked and got Draymond up in the air. You take the contact for possible and one or ft's. He instead passes to Thompson who gets hacked. Of course he missed both free throws. You are the captain of the team. You do not shy away when it counts in crunch time. He's got all the talent in the world but isn't bright sometimes and that causes all the negativity. Not to mention he's been pretty damn cocky since day 1.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:35 AM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by AD9323:


    I agree and thats the problem right there. It isnt his job to hire the coach and players he needs. That should be a GMs job. The reason Miami had the success it had is becsuse Pat Riley wouldnt stand for that crap. 

    And why do you think he left Miami?   Because the strong presence of Riley who wouldn't let him take the team over.   Can't strong arm him, so go back to the place that he knew he could pull his strings.  Gilbert is the sucker here though....  Never take back the ex-girlfriend that left you at the altar  
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    Quote Originally Posted by AD9323:


    I agree and thats the problem right there. It isnt his job to hire the coach and players he needs. That should be a GMs job. The reason Miami had the success it had is becsuse Pat Riley wouldnt stand for that crap. 

    And why do you think he left Miami?   Because the strong presence of Riley who wouldn't let him take the team over.   Can't strong arm him, so go back to the place that he knew he could pull his strings.  Gilbert is the sucker here though....  Never take back the ex-girlfriend that left you at the altar  
     
     
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    Posted: Jun. 11, 2016 - 12:38 AM ET #50

    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:

    I'm done here. I'm not going to change anybody's opinion so this is futile. Y'all can hate on LBJ all you want but it won't stop him from going down as one of the all time greats 

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    He'll be one of the greatest regular season players ever, and he got his rings unlike a few true greats like Karl Malone, Bernard King, Charles Barkley, Ewing, Stockton and so on.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:

    I'm done here. I'm not going to change anybody's opinion so this is futile. Y'all can hate on LBJ all you want but it won't stop him from going down as one of the all time greats 

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    He'll be one of the greatest regular season players ever, and he got his rings unlike a few true greats like Karl Malone, Bernard King, Charles Barkley, Ewing, Stockton and so on.  
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