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    First Attempt at an NBA Point Spread Model

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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 2:34 PM ET #1

    As described in the title, I started an NBA model that spits out projected point spreads.  I can go into details if anybody is interested, but for now I will just use this forum to track the picks.  See what works and what doesn't.  See if there are any tweaks that can be done to make it better.  If anybody has any experience with NBA models, and how they translate box score data into points ATS, I'd love to hear it.  Please note that the model is HIGHLY flawed in that it is ONLY taking into account prior games from this year.  No previous season data, no specific player data, no injury adjustments, no home/away data etc.  Pure, raw, box score numbers.  It is not necessarily predicting what will happen in the next game, rather it represents what the exact point differential would be if both teams performed at exactly at their season averages in each category.  It might be completely useless in all honesty, but it will be interesting to see if there is value when it shows a large discrepancy from the Vegas spread.  If nothing else, maybe this will lead to discussion and some input from anybody else who is interested or who has an NBA point spread model of their own.  On to the picks...

     

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    As described in the title, I started an NBA model that spits out projected point spreads.  I can go into details if anybody is interested, but for now I will just use this forum to track the picks.  See what works and what doesn't.  See if there are any tweaks that can be done to make it better.  If anybody has any experience with NBA models, and how they translate box score data into points ATS, I'd love to hear it.  Please note that the model is HIGHLY flawed in that it is ONLY taking into account prior games from this year.  No previous season data, no specific player data, no injury adjustments, no home/away data etc.  Pure, raw, box score numbers.  It is not necessarily predicting what will happen in the next game, rather it represents what the exact point differential would be if both teams performed at exactly at their season averages in each category.  It might be completely useless in all honesty, but it will be interesting to see if there is value when it shows a large discrepancy from the Vegas spread.  If nothing else, maybe this will lead to discussion and some input from anybody else who is interested or who has an NBA point spread model of their own.  On to the picks...

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 2:38 PM ET #2

    Date November 3, 2023

                                           Spread                 PSD Spread                Differential                Pick         

    Cavs @ Pacers                 Cavs - 1.5             Cavs -2.4617                0.9617                 Cavs -1.5

    Knicks @ Bucks               Bucks -5.5           Knicks -4.4644                9.9644                 Knicks +5.5

    Wizards @ Heat               Heat -8.5             Wizards -3.3002             11.8002               Wizards +8.5

    Nets @ Bulls                     Bulls -3.5             Nets -9.6509                 13.1509               Nets +3.5

    Warriors @ Thunder       Warriors -6.5           Warriors -8.8793             2.3793                Warriors -6.5

    Mavs @ Nuggets            Nuggets -6.5          Nuggets -1.5755              4.9245                Mavs +6.5

    Grizzlies @ Blazers          Grizzlies -3.5          Blazers -3.8086             7.3086                 Blazers +3.5

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    Date November 3, 2023

                                           Spread                 PSD Spread                Differential                Pick         

    Cavs @ Pacers                 Cavs - 1.5             Cavs -2.4617                0.9617                 Cavs -1.5

    Knicks @ Bucks               Bucks -5.5           Knicks -4.4644                9.9644                 Knicks +5.5

    Wizards @ Heat               Heat -8.5             Wizards -3.3002             11.8002               Wizards +8.5

    Nets @ Bulls                     Bulls -3.5             Nets -9.6509                 13.1509               Nets +3.5

    Warriors @ Thunder       Warriors -6.5           Warriors -8.8793             2.3793                Warriors -6.5

    Mavs @ Nuggets            Nuggets -6.5          Nuggets -1.5755              4.9245                Mavs +6.5

    Grizzlies @ Blazers          Grizzlies -3.5          Blazers -3.8086             7.3086                 Blazers +3.5

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 2:40 PM ET #3

    GL peaceclover

    Learn, be content and stay disciplined.
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    GL peaceclover

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 2:53 PM ET #4

    what a jumbled mess. I'll have to figure out the formatting tomorrow. 

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    what a jumbled mess. I'll have to figure out the formatting tomorrow. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 3:18 PM ET #5

    Looks good! Picks in bold? Love it! I'll be tracking, good luck tonight, I like a lot of these and will be playing an_cheers

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    Looks good! Picks in bold? Love it! I'll be tracking, good luck tonight, I like a lot of these and will be playing an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 3:20 PM ET #6

    Yes the picks are bold. Good luck. 

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    Yes the picks are bold. Good luck. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 5:30 PM ET #7

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeHancho303:

    Looks good! Picks in bold? Love it! I'll be tracking, good luck tonight, I like a lot of these and will be playing

    I mean DUH confused

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeHancho303:

    Looks good! Picks in bold? Love it! I'll be tracking, good luck tonight, I like a lot of these and will be playing

    I mean DUH confused

     
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    Posted: Nov. 3, 2023 - 5:31 PM ET #8

    @sheeklouch

     GL Brother

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    @sheeklouch

     GL Brother

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2023 - 4:44 PM ET #9

    ytd 4-3

    No real time today but I plugged everything in to track. Here's what I got back.

    Sixers -6.5

    Hornets -3.1

    Hawks -4.5

    Magic -2.5

    Celtics -9.2

    Kings -6

    Wolves -7.3

    Nuggets -9.5

     

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    ytd 4-3

    No real time today but I plugged everything in to track. Here's what I got back.

    Sixers -6.5

    Hornets -3.1

    Hawks -4.5

    Magic -2.5

    Celtics -9.2

    Kings -6

    Wolves -7.3

    Nuggets -9.5

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2023 - 4:55 PM ET #10

    Stop playing points an_beatup

     

    Over/Under  moneybagmoneybagmoneybag

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    Stop playing points an_beatup

     

    Over/Under  moneybagmoneybagmoneybag

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2023 - 5:25 PM ET #11

    Hawks - 4.5 ? Lol 

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    Hawks - 4.5 ? Lol 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 4, 2023 - 5:30 PM ET #12

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     Didn't have time to explain but these are the lines the model gave out. Do with it what you will. 

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    @Seahawks14

     Didn't have time to explain but these are the lines the model gave out. Do with it what you will. 

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2023 - 1:59 AM ET #13

    10-4-1

    Fox being out definitely hurt the Kings pick.  That's why I am using these as a baseline spread, and then deciding what to bet on manually based on other factors.  Days rest, injuries, home/away.  Not a bad start.

     

     

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    Fox being out definitely hurt the Kings pick.  That's why I am using these as a baseline spread, and then deciding what to bet on manually based on other factors.  Days rest, injuries, home/away.  Not a bad start.

     

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2023 - 2:49 AM ET #14

    an_clap

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    Posted: Nov. 5, 2023 - 12:36 PM ET #15

    10-4-1

    I figure it might be easier to just link a viewable copy of one of the spreadsheets I am using to track the data.  Here are the breakdowns for today. 

    Vegas Spreads     --->     Model Spreads

    Suns -3.5     --->         Suns -0.6322
    Raptors -3.5     --->     Raptors -9.0585
    Cavs -1.5     --->         Warriors -11.7186  
    Mavs -12.5      --->       Mavs -8.0466
    Grizzlies -2.5     --->     Blazers -4.8838                         

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    10-4-1

    I figure it might be easier to just link a viewable copy of one of the spreadsheets I am using to track the data.  Here are the breakdowns for today. 

    Vegas Spreads     --->     Model Spreads

    Suns -3.5     --->         Suns -0.6322
    Raptors -3.5     --->     Raptors -9.0585
    Cavs -1.5     --->         Warriors -11.7186  
    Mavs -12.5      --->       Mavs -8.0466
    Grizzlies -2.5     --->     Blazers -4.8838                         

    Breakdown / Summary

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 6, 2023 - 1:09 PM ET #16

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    Big card today.  I'll just post the model spreads and a link to the data.

    Sixers -16.2351
    Magic -1.5612
    Pacers -3.9972
    Warriors -5.5694
    Clippers -14.0321
    Lakers -2.7315
    Nets -5.2794
    Rockets -0.557
    Celtics -5.2094
    Hawks -6.6488
    Jazz -3.4209
    Nuggets -11.1855

    Summary Sheet

     

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    12-7-1

     

    Big card today.  I'll just post the model spreads and a link to the data.

    Sixers -16.2351
    Magic -1.5612
    Pacers -3.9972
    Warriors -5.5694
    Clippers -14.0321
    Lakers -2.7315
    Nets -5.2794
    Rockets -0.557
    Celtics -5.2094
    Hawks -6.6488
    Jazz -3.4209
    Nuggets -11.1855

    Summary Sheet

     

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 12:46 PM ET #17

    18-13-1

    Been interesting so far.

    Tonight we got 

    hornets -4.7026
    sixers -3.3739
    pacers -3.7097
    knicks -12.5769
    clippers -5.3266
    wolves -14.4627
    rockets -6.2269
    pistons -4.646
    thunder -0.6979
    heat-5.393
    suns -7
    raptors -2.3724
    nuggets -4.3511
    Blazers -2.2931

     here's the summary

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    18-13-1

    Been interesting so far.

    Tonight we got 

    hornets -4.7026
    sixers -3.3739
    pacers -3.7097
    knicks -12.5769
    clippers -5.3266
    wolves -14.4627
    rockets -6.2269
    pistons -4.646
    thunder -0.6979
    heat-5.393
    suns -7
    raptors -2.3724
    nuggets -4.3511
    Blazers -2.2931

     here's the summary

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 4:54 PM ET #18

    @sheeklouch

     Good luck with this.  Can this track totals?

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    @sheeklouch

     Good luck with this.  Can this track totals?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 4:56 PM ET #19

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     Doesn't do totals.  I might look into trying to design a model for that next.  

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    @jackedward32

     Doesn't do totals.  I might look into trying to design a model for that next.  

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2023 - 7:29 PM ET #20

    this worked out well the summary isnt up anymore?

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    this worked out well the summary isnt up anymore?

     
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2023 - 1:42 AM ET #21

    @sheeklouch

     PM you!

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    @sheeklouch

     PM you!

     
    sheeklouch
    sheeklouch
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2023 - 6:07 PM ET #22

    29-16-1

    Great day yesterday.  Here's what we have for today.

    Pacers -3.9185

    Hawks -1.6253

     Summary

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    29-16-1

    Great day yesterday.  Here's what we have for today.

    Pacers -3.9185

    Hawks -1.6253

     Summary

     
    jackedward32
    jackedward32
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    Posted: Nov. 9, 2023 - 6:36 PM ET #23

    @sheeklouch

     Barking dogs.  BOL!

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    @sheeklouch

     Barking dogs.  BOL!

     
    SiuLungBao
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2023 - 12:28 AM ET #24

    @jackedward32

     ruff ruff two more dogs today!! 

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    @jackedward32

     ruff ruff two more dogs today!! 

     
     
    Robards
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    Posted: Nov. 10, 2023 - 8:07 AM ET #25

    @sheeklouch

     Damn a great start.

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    @sheeklouch

     Damn a great start.

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