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    Posted: May. 16, 2018 - 2:25 AM ET #51

    Also DRPM rankings do not tell the whole story defensively. For example, Zaza Paculia is ranked in the top 17 for centers well ahead of guys like Marc Gasol and Dwight Howard, who are obviously much better defenders and former Defensive Players of the Year.

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    Also DRPM rankings do not tell the whole story defensively. For example, Zaza Paculia is ranked in the top 17 for centers well ahead of guys like Marc Gasol and Dwight Howard, who are obviously much better defenders and former Defensive Players of the Year.

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2018 - 3:12 AM ET #52

    Lebron a good defensive player? LOL, charles barkley said it best. if u aint getting 4-5 fouls a game u aint playing defense. 
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    Lebron a good defensive player? LOL, charles barkley said it best. if u aint getting 4-5 fouls a game u aint playing defense. 
     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2018 - 3:23 AM ET #53

    the cavs were favored because of what happened to toronto. 1-5 +bench,  boston clearly has a better team. why my bet tonight was cavs 1st qtr. i still think it could very well go 7 and lebron in a game 7 is 5-2, so yeah. better win 1 in cle.

     

    Let's not act like Boston was the media, public, and betting favorite prior to this series because they were not. Easy to say Boston is the better team now up 2-0 with two DD wins. Here is a link for "expert" predictions prior to the series from the leading Sports Network (ESPN). 19/22 writers and analysts picked Cavs to win the series. No one was saying Boston was a better team without Kyrie outside of Boston.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23454202/expert-predictions-conference-finals-2018-nba-playoffs

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    the cavs were favored because of what happened to toronto. 1-5 +bench,  boston clearly has a better team. why my bet tonight was cavs 1st qtr. i still think it could very well go 7 and lebron in a game 7 is 5-2, so yeah. better win 1 in cle.

     

    Let's not act like Boston was the media, public, and betting favorite prior to this series because they were not. Easy to say Boston is the better team now up 2-0 with two DD wins. Here is a link for "expert" predictions prior to the series from the leading Sports Network (ESPN). 19/22 writers and analysts picked Cavs to win the series. No one was saying Boston was a better team without Kyrie outside of Boston.

    https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23454202/expert-predictions-conference-finals-2018-nba-playoffs

     
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    Posted: May. 16, 2018 - 9:08 AM ET #54

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    Posted: May. 17, 2018 - 9:13 AM ET #55

    It’s funny how there isn’t ONE word about Durant last nite and how his team got dismantled ALL NITE. 

    Here’s his line:

    38 points 
    3 big rebounds 
    0.....let me repeat, 0 assists 
    5 turnovers.....5.

    So I’m confused.....a thread opens up about James quitting, the same LBJ, who went for 42,12 and 10 yet because it’s LBJ, he gets called out. This is the same LBJ who didn’t take a nite off all year too and the same LBJ who has a far inferior supporting cast than Durant. All the hate for LBJ yet Durant did the same thing LBJ did last year in coming over to the team that beat his old team and winning an easy title. Yet no threads by anyone about Durant? I’m sure I there are any responses, we’ll hear about Durant this and Durant that, lots of excuses but in my eyes, if you beat down from start to finish, you grab 3 boards and youbdish our no assists all while turning it over 5 times, your a$$ should be called out too. I get it though....Durant gets a free pass. People want to talk defense? Durant looked really efficient out there last nite too.....what gives?


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    It’s funny how there isn’t ONE word about Durant last nite and how his team got dismantled ALL NITE. 

    Here’s his line:

    38 points 
    3 big rebounds 
    0.....let me repeat, 0 assists 
    5 turnovers.....5.

    So I’m confused.....a thread opens up about James quitting, the same LBJ, who went for 42,12 and 10 yet because it’s LBJ, he gets called out. This is the same LBJ who didn’t take a nite off all year too and the same LBJ who has a far inferior supporting cast than Durant. All the hate for LBJ yet Durant did the same thing LBJ did last year in coming over to the team that beat his old team and winning an easy title. Yet no threads by anyone about Durant? I’m sure I there are any responses, we’ll hear about Durant this and Durant that, lots of excuses but in my eyes, if you beat down from start to finish, you grab 3 boards and youbdish our no assists all while turning it over 5 times, your a$$ should be called out too. I get it though....Durant gets a free pass. People want to talk defense? Durant looked really efficient out there last nite too.....what gives?


     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2018 - 10:03 AM ET #56

    LeBron definitely quit because that's what he does. He has the heart of the Tin man from the wizard of Oz.

    The biggest example of this was when Terry Rozier grabbed an outlet pass and went the distance for a huge dunk. Lebron was even with him on the break and didn't even contest him.

    I get tired of all the excuses and stats people make up trying to defend him.

    I think the majority of the hate LeBron gets is with all the talent and ability he has, he lacks serious heart. 

    He breaks it out once in a while but it is rare.
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    LeBron definitely quit because that's what he does. He has the heart of the Tin man from the wizard of Oz.

    The biggest example of this was when Terry Rozier grabbed an outlet pass and went the distance for a huge dunk. Lebron was even with him on the break and didn't even contest him.

    I get tired of all the excuses and stats people make up trying to defend him.

    I think the majority of the hate LeBron gets is with all the talent and ability he has, he lacks serious heart. 

    He breaks it out once in a while but it is rare.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2018 - 10:15 AM ET #57

    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    It’s funny how there isn’t ONE word about Durant last nite and how his team got dismantled ALL NITE. 

    Here’s his line:

    38 points 
    3 big rebounds 
    0.....let me repeat, 0 assists 
    5 turnovers.....5.

    So I’m confused.....a thread opens up about James quitting, the same LBJ, who went for 42,12 and 10 yet because it’s LBJ, he gets called out. This is the same LBJ who didn’t take a nite off all year too and the same LBJ who has a far inferior supporting cast than Durant. All the hate for LBJ yet Durant did the same thing LBJ did last year in coming over to the team that beat his old team and winning an easy title. Yet no threads by anyone about Durant? I’m sure I there are any responses, we’ll hear about Durant this and Durant that, lots of excuses but in my eyes, if you beat down from start to finish, you grab 3 boards and youbdish our no assists all while turning it over 5 times, your a$$ should be called out too. I get it though....Durant gets a free pass. People want to talk defense? Durant looked really efficient out there last nite too.....what gives?




    Post of the day right here. Well said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    It’s funny how there isn’t ONE word about Durant last nite and how his team got dismantled ALL NITE. 

    Here’s his line:

    38 points 
    3 big rebounds 
    0.....let me repeat, 0 assists 
    5 turnovers.....5.

    So I’m confused.....a thread opens up about James quitting, the same LBJ, who went for 42,12 and 10 yet because it’s LBJ, he gets called out. This is the same LBJ who didn’t take a nite off all year too and the same LBJ who has a far inferior supporting cast than Durant. All the hate for LBJ yet Durant did the same thing LBJ did last year in coming over to the team that beat his old team and winning an easy title. Yet no threads by anyone about Durant? I’m sure I there are any responses, we’ll hear about Durant this and Durant that, lots of excuses but in my eyes, if you beat down from start to finish, you grab 3 boards and youbdish our no assists all while turning it over 5 times, your a$$ should be called out too. I get it though....Durant gets a free pass. People want to talk defense? Durant looked really efficient out there last nite too.....what gives?




    Post of the day right here. Well said.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2018 - 10:38 AM ET #58

    Quote Originally Posted by Onthereal:

    LeBron definitely quit because that's what he does. He has the heart of the Tin man from the wizard of Oz.

    The biggest example of this was when Terry Rozier grabbed an outlet pass and went the distance for a huge dunk. Lebron was even with him on the break and didn't even contest him.

    I get tired of all the excuses and stats people make up trying to defend him.

    I think the majority of the hate LeBron gets is with all the talent and ability he has, he lacks serious heart. 

    He breaks it out once in a while but it is rare.

    We’ve already debated Lebron and his game 2 which was light years better than currys or Durants. Here, I want to hear the explanation on why Durant an Curry get free passes. If we all watched the same game, one could argue that Durant played worse defense than LBJ. How many did Ariza have last nite? How many did Harden have last nite? Durant guards those guys at times right? What about Curry? Did people see that the rockets were picking on him ALL NITE. 1 of 8 from 3 land and everybody who he guarded has a field day. Oh wait....is it because he was “injured” all year? I don’t make excuses for lebron or anyone and when you compare the performances, it’s clear as day who did more for their team in the game 2s played this week. Lebron is just an easy target; I get that but at some point people need to quit the bs. If lebron gets called out then the ENTIRE team of the dubs who actually know how to play defense as opposed to this Cleveland team, needs to be called out. The dubs supporting cast is light years better than team Lebron and at least Team Lebron was in the game m. I read that for 28 minutes, the dubs we’re down double digits....yet.....nobody talks about the leaders on that team, Curry and Durant who did FAR LESS than the guy who continually carries his team regardless of a piss poor coach, GM and supporting cast. Only in this day in age would a thread be created about someone quitting on their team when he puts up 42,12 and 10. Those numbers represent a quitter. Again, for every play someone wants to call lebron out in game 2 for, I can give you multiples in Durant and Curry (mvps). 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onthereal:

    LeBron definitely quit because that's what he does. He has the heart of the Tin man from the wizard of Oz.

    The biggest example of this was when Terry Rozier grabbed an outlet pass and went the distance for a huge dunk. Lebron was even with him on the break and didn't even contest him.

    I get tired of all the excuses and stats people make up trying to defend him.

    I think the majority of the hate LeBron gets is with all the talent and ability he has, he lacks serious heart. 

    He breaks it out once in a while but it is rare.

    We’ve already debated Lebron and his game 2 which was light years better than currys or Durants. Here, I want to hear the explanation on why Durant an Curry get free passes. If we all watched the same game, one could argue that Durant played worse defense than LBJ. How many did Ariza have last nite? How many did Harden have last nite? Durant guards those guys at times right? What about Curry? Did people see that the rockets were picking on him ALL NITE. 1 of 8 from 3 land and everybody who he guarded has a field day. Oh wait....is it because he was “injured” all year? I don’t make excuses for lebron or anyone and when you compare the performances, it’s clear as day who did more for their team in the game 2s played this week. Lebron is just an easy target; I get that but at some point people need to quit the bs. If lebron gets called out then the ENTIRE team of the dubs who actually know how to play defense as opposed to this Cleveland team, needs to be called out. The dubs supporting cast is light years better than team Lebron and at least Team Lebron was in the game m. I read that for 28 minutes, the dubs we’re down double digits....yet.....nobody talks about the leaders on that team, Curry and Durant who did FAR LESS than the guy who continually carries his team regardless of a piss poor coach, GM and supporting cast. Only in this day in age would a thread be created about someone quitting on their team when he puts up 42,12 and 10. Those numbers represent a quitter. Again, for every play someone wants to call lebron out in game 2 for, I can give you multiples in Durant and Curry (mvps). 
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2018 - 2:05 PM ET #59

    Curry and Durant get free passes because people aren't saying they are the greatest of all time.
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    Curry and Durant get free passes because people aren't saying they are the greatest of all time.
     
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    ^this, when people make such claim about lebron being better than mj then he better live up to it. lebron fans only arguments is his stats. omg look at his triple double how can u say he quit?  watching the game, he only dominated in the 1st Q. but he kind of disapears when it matters most. he is known to play 3 Q’s. thats why there were jokes about him few years ago. stats only looks good on paper but watching the game tells another another story. and when someone is so ball dominant like james. its pretty much given to have almost a triple double every game. and lebron is a stat person he even said it in interviews. he cares about his stats and fg%. pay attention to his game. when shot clock whines down he dishes it out to have his team mates take the bad shot so he doesnt have to.  james is a great player with godly stats. but his weak mentality isnt on the same level as kobe and mj. mark jackson said it best in game 2. if it was kobe or mj they would go down fighting.
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    ^this, when people make such claim about lebron being better than mj then he better live up to it. lebron fans only arguments is his stats. omg look at his triple double how can u say he quit?  watching the game, he only dominated in the 1st Q. but he kind of disapears when it matters most. he is known to play 3 Q’s. thats why there were jokes about him few years ago. stats only looks good on paper but watching the game tells another another story. and when someone is so ball dominant like james. its pretty much given to have almost a triple double every game. and lebron is a stat person he even said it in interviews. he cares about his stats and fg%. pay attention to his game. when shot clock whines down he dishes it out to have his team mates take the bad shot so he doesnt have to.  james is a great player with godly stats. but his weak mentality isnt on the same level as kobe and mj. mark jackson said it best in game 2. if it was kobe or mj they would go down fighting.
     
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    Posted: May. 17, 2018 - 3:14 PM ET #61

    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

    It’s funny how there isn’t ONE word about Durant last nite and how his team got dismantled ALL NITE. 

    Here’s his line:

    38 points 
    3 big rebounds 
    0.....let me repeat, 0 assists 
    5 turnovers.....5.

    So I’m confused.....a thread opens up about James quitting, the same LBJ, who went for 42,12 and 10 yet because it’s LBJ, he gets called out. This is the same LBJ who didn’t take a nite off all year too and the same LBJ who has a far inferior supporting cast than Durant. All the hate for LBJ yet Durant did the same thing LBJ did last year in coming over to the team that beat his old team and winning an easy title. Yet no threads by anyone about Durant? I’m sure I there are any responses, we’ll hear about Durant this and Durant that, lots of excuses but in my eyes, if you beat down from start to finish, you grab 3 boards and youbdish our no assists all while turning it over 5 times, your a$$ should be called out too. I get it though....Durant gets a free pass. People want to talk defense? Durant looked really efficient out there last nite too.....what gives?




    We won't say a word when newbies and media stop comparing him to Jordan the say he may be the greatest player to play the game.   KD is not being compared to Jordan nor is his name is mentioned as best ever or Clutch. 


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    It’s funny how there isn’t ONE word about Durant last nite and how his team got dismantled ALL NITE. 

    Here’s his line:

    38 points 
    3 big rebounds 
    0.....let me repeat, 0 assists 
    5 turnovers.....5.

    So I’m confused.....a thread opens up about James quitting, the same LBJ, who went for 42,12 and 10 yet because it’s LBJ, he gets called out. This is the same LBJ who didn’t take a nite off all year too and the same LBJ who has a far inferior supporting cast than Durant. All the hate for LBJ yet Durant did the same thing LBJ did last year in coming over to the team that beat his old team and winning an easy title. Yet no threads by anyone about Durant? I’m sure I there are any responses, we’ll hear about Durant this and Durant that, lots of excuses but in my eyes, if you beat down from start to finish, you grab 3 boards and youbdish our no assists all while turning it over 5 times, your a$$ should be called out too. I get it though....Durant gets a free pass. People want to talk defense? Durant looked really efficient out there last nite too.....what gives?




    We won't say a word when newbies and media stop comparing him to Jordan the say he may be the greatest player to play the game.   KD is not being compared to Jordan nor is his name is mentioned as best ever or Clutch. 


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Onthereal:

    Curry and Durant get free passes because people aren't saying they are the greatest of all time.

    Can we agree that whoever thinks Lebron is the greatest of all time is an absolute idiot? There is no argument there. NOBODY gets a free pass at this time of year when they have rings and mvps and last time I checked the supposed “greatest shooter of all time, Curry” goes 1 for 8 behind the 3, yet no bashing on him. And Durant....did nothing defensively yet some dingleberries in this thread on previous pages think Durant is light years better than lebron defensively. Only on this site.....
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    Curry and Durant get free passes because people aren't saying they are the greatest of all time.

    Can we agree that whoever thinks Lebron is the greatest of all time is an absolute idiot? There is no argument there. NOBODY gets a free pass at this time of year when they have rings and mvps and last time I checked the supposed “greatest shooter of all time, Curry” goes 1 for 8 behind the 3, yet no bashing on him. And Durant....did nothing defensively yet some dingleberries in this thread on previous pages think Durant is light years better than lebron defensively. Only on this site.....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:


    Can we agree that whoever thinks Lebron is the greatest of all time is an absolute idiot? There is no argument there. NOBODY gets a free pass at this time of year when they have rings and mvps and last time I checked the supposed “greatest shooter of all time, Curry” goes 1 for 8 behind the 3, yet no bashing on him. And Durant....did nothing defensively yet some dingleberries in this thread on previous pages think Durant is light years better than lebron defensively. Only on this site.....


    Curry is still hurt and coming off an injury.  He's only played in 6 games since missing 2 months....Dude has already cemented himself and a 1st ballot HOF and greatest shooter of all time even if he does not play another game.  does not need to prove anything. 
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    Can we agree that whoever thinks Lebron is the greatest of all time is an absolute idiot? There is no argument there. NOBODY gets a free pass at this time of year when they have rings and mvps and last time I checked the supposed “greatest shooter of all time, Curry” goes 1 for 8 behind the 3, yet no bashing on him. And Durant....did nothing defensively yet some dingleberries in this thread on previous pages think Durant is light years better than lebron defensively. Only on this site.....


    Curry is still hurt and coming off an injury.  He's only played in 6 games since missing 2 months....Dude has already cemented himself and a 1st ballot HOF and greatest shooter of all time even if he does not play another game.  does not need to prove anything. 
     
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    my mail came late.... in it was last night's "script".... it had Rockets blasting off and Warriors to play light... 
    it is funny how a team can look great then crap the bed 
    what was Harden's excuse in last year's game 7 when he COMPLETELY disappeared??...  
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    my mail came late.... in it was last night's "script".... it had Rockets blasting off and Warriors to play light... 
    it is funny how a team can look great then crap the bed 
    what was Harden's excuse in last year's game 7 when he COMPLETELY disappeared??...  
    must be nice to have egos, money, power, control....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by davemsh:



    We won't say a word when newbies and media stop comparing him to Jordan the say he may be the greatest player to play the game.   KD is not being compared to Jordan nor is his name is mentioned as best ever or Clutch. 



    It’s become very clear to me that in this thread and others you are NEVER wrong. You don’t budge an inch man. That’s ok though; whatever makes you feel good, go with it. You and others want to deviate from my point above about curry and Durant and go to the comparisons between MJ and Lebron instead.....It’s weak because any right minded individual knows there is no comparison. Nobody touches MJ so take your hate for Lebron and relax a little. My god bro. If you read in this thread bud, there are multiple idiots who referred to Durant being a better defender throughout his career than Lebron which is absurd so I figured I’d bring up Durant last nite considering he sucked on the defensive side of the ball. Make sense? You say lebron quits and I don’t doubt that in past performances but if you watched the game last nite, you’d know the better team defense didn’t show up and Durant is included in that. He was dogsh@t defensively and in comparing the games and numbers between lebron, curry and Durant in game 2s this week, only a stubborn individual would STILL think lebron is the only quitter in those games. It’s beyond me how a guy who didn’t take any games off this year, who is older in age, provides double digit opportunities for his team to score (those are what we call assists), grabs double digit boards and scores more points than Durant who had no assists (selfish) and 3 rebounds at 7 feet tall. Explain that for me please? 3 boards?! Are rebounds and assists not important? Do they not help the team? Oh but lebron didnt get back on defense and his body language stunk! Haaaaa! Well watch the game last nite dave. Curry played no defense neither did Durant and the “tie breaker” for me is that even though none of those 3 played great defensively, the numbers outdo curry and Durant by a mile. It’s called PRODUCTION so if one has better production why aren’t we calling out the super team mvps with rings in curry and Durant who had less production? Is my point that hard to follow? It’s because you just hate lebron; other than that the argument is crap because I’m referring to apples vs apples. If lebron is getting called out MY POINT IS THAT THE FAVORITES, THE EASY ROAD TAKERS JUST LIKE LEBRON, THEY SHOUKD BE CALLED OUT TOO. This is factual bud. I can argue that Durant is more of a b@tch than lebron. Sure Leveon left for Miami but for Durant to get beat 3 in a row by the warriors and then join the warriors the year after; ITS THE WEAKEST MOVE IVER EVER SEEN IN SPORTS, EVER. Don’t even get me started on curry who sits out almost 2 months for a bs injury so he can get rest. Somehow NOBODY talks about these two; it’s all about Lebron who hasn’t complained one time for the TEAM THAT QUIT ON HIM IN THE OFFSEASON AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. What do I know though? I’ve exhausted my energy here making a very simple point. 
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    We won't say a word when newbies and media stop comparing him to Jordan the say he may be the greatest player to play the game.   KD is not being compared to Jordan nor is his name is mentioned as best ever or Clutch. 



    It’s become very clear to me that in this thread and others you are NEVER wrong. You don’t budge an inch man. That’s ok though; whatever makes you feel good, go with it. You and others want to deviate from my point above about curry and Durant and go to the comparisons between MJ and Lebron instead.....It’s weak because any right minded individual knows there is no comparison. Nobody touches MJ so take your hate for Lebron and relax a little. My god bro. If you read in this thread bud, there are multiple idiots who referred to Durant being a better defender throughout his career than Lebron which is absurd so I figured I’d bring up Durant last nite considering he sucked on the defensive side of the ball. Make sense? You say lebron quits and I don’t doubt that in past performances but if you watched the game last nite, you’d know the better team defense didn’t show up and Durant is included in that. He was dogsh@t defensively and in comparing the games and numbers between lebron, curry and Durant in game 2s this week, only a stubborn individual would STILL think lebron is the only quitter in those games. It’s beyond me how a guy who didn’t take any games off this year, who is older in age, provides double digit opportunities for his team to score (those are what we call assists), grabs double digit boards and scores more points than Durant who had no assists (selfish) and 3 rebounds at 7 feet tall. Explain that for me please? 3 boards?! Are rebounds and assists not important? Do they not help the team? Oh but lebron didnt get back on defense and his body language stunk! Haaaaa! Well watch the game last nite dave. Curry played no defense neither did Durant and the “tie breaker” for me is that even though none of those 3 played great defensively, the numbers outdo curry and Durant by a mile. It’s called PRODUCTION so if one has better production why aren’t we calling out the super team mvps with rings in curry and Durant who had less production? Is my point that hard to follow? It’s because you just hate lebron; other than that the argument is crap because I’m referring to apples vs apples. If lebron is getting called out MY POINT IS THAT THE FAVORITES, THE EASY ROAD TAKERS JUST LIKE LEBRON, THEY SHOUKD BE CALLED OUT TOO. This is factual bud. I can argue that Durant is more of a b@tch than lebron. Sure Leveon left for Miami but for Durant to get beat 3 in a row by the warriors and then join the warriors the year after; ITS THE WEAKEST MOVE IVER EVER SEEN IN SPORTS, EVER. Don’t even get me started on curry who sits out almost 2 months for a bs injury so he can get rest. Somehow NOBODY talks about these two; it’s all about Lebron who hasn’t complained one time for the TEAM THAT QUIT ON HIM IN THE OFFSEASON AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. What do I know though? I’ve exhausted my energy here making a very simple point. 
     
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    Curry is still hurt and coming off an injury.  He's only played in 6 games since missing 2 months....Dude has already cemented himself and a 1st ballot HOF and greatest shooter of all time even if he does not play another game.  does not need to prove anything. 

    Curry has nothing to prove but Lebron does for people like you who get their undies in a wad with the comparisons to MJ? Oh boy. Curry the almighty everyone! Your greatest shooter of all time went 1 for 8 from behind the 3. Care to explain why you don’t call him out for that yet you call out a guy who actually produced in his game with points, rebounds and assists? Curry was THE REASON the rockets manhaned the warriors. You know that right? Did you watch the game. Harden, Gordon, even Ariza off a set out of bounds play.....they all owned curry but you say he gets a free pass. You didn’t see the tickrts forcing curry to switch to the hall handler all nite? Why did they do that bud?  Are you listening to yourself Dave? Curry was fine when he went off in his first game back in the playoffs but he has a horsesh@t nite last and you wanna make excuses. Let me see curry do whatclebron has for 15 years and then we’ll talk. The more you talk the more you shoot yourself in the foot. HERE ARE CLIFF NOTES WHEN I READ YOUR NONSENSE: curry NOTHING to prove, greatest shooter of all time yet he shoots barely 12% from the 3, he gets owned all nite on defense YET NO QUESTIONING OF HIS PLAY. Lebron puts up ridiculous numbers, isn’t even close to as bad as curry was defensively, he hits 5 times the amount of 3s, he’s 6’8 yet gets double digit assists but he gets questioned for quitting? I mean d@mn.....as I read this only a stubborn person would think they are right in that assessment of questioning lebron but not curry and Durant, MVPS......
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    Curry is still hurt and coming off an injury.  He's only played in 6 games since missing 2 months....Dude has already cemented himself and a 1st ballot HOF and greatest shooter of all time even if he does not play another game.  does not need to prove anything. 

    Curry has nothing to prove but Lebron does for people like you who get their undies in a wad with the comparisons to MJ? Oh boy. Curry the almighty everyone! Your greatest shooter of all time went 1 for 8 from behind the 3. Care to explain why you don’t call him out for that yet you call out a guy who actually produced in his game with points, rebounds and assists? Curry was THE REASON the rockets manhaned the warriors. You know that right? Did you watch the game. Harden, Gordon, even Ariza off a set out of bounds play.....they all owned curry but you say he gets a free pass. You didn’t see the tickrts forcing curry to switch to the hall handler all nite? Why did they do that bud?  Are you listening to yourself Dave? Curry was fine when he went off in his first game back in the playoffs but he has a horsesh@t nite last and you wanna make excuses. Let me see curry do whatclebron has for 15 years and then we’ll talk. The more you talk the more you shoot yourself in the foot. HERE ARE CLIFF NOTES WHEN I READ YOUR NONSENSE: curry NOTHING to prove, greatest shooter of all time yet he shoots barely 12% from the 3, he gets owned all nite on defense YET NO QUESTIONING OF HIS PLAY. Lebron puts up ridiculous numbers, isn’t even close to as bad as curry was defensively, he hits 5 times the amount of 3s, he’s 6’8 yet gets double digit assists but he gets questioned for quitting? I mean d@mn.....as I read this only a stubborn person would think they are right in that assessment of questioning lebron but not curry and Durant, MVPS......
     
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    Almighty Dave: “Curry is still hurt and coming off an injury”...you say?How old is curry? How many years has he been in the league? Ya know....I wonder.....do you think Lebron ever wanted to take nites, off months at a time? You think he ever got hurt or banged up this year? He’s 100 pounds heavier, he is asked to do waaaaaaaaaaaaay more yet he play a full season. He’s the one being questioned though......? The quitter who played all 82 in his 15th year, hit two game winners, averaging a triple double in the playoffs, 4 40 point games vs. the lil boy who hurt his ankle and knee sitting out almost two months. I wonder just how good curry would be without his superteam? Who does lebron hsvevon his team this year? Wait....who? Wait....I’m confused.....who is the one being questioned in his dedication here? Am I high right now or am I listening to individuals who are watching different years here? Curry NOTHING to prove but lebron everything to prove still? Crazy 
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    Almighty Dave: “Curry is still hurt and coming off an injury”...you say?How old is curry? How many years has he been in the league? Ya know....I wonder.....do you think Lebron ever wanted to take nites, off months at a time? You think he ever got hurt or banged up this year? He’s 100 pounds heavier, he is asked to do waaaaaaaaaaaaay more yet he play a full season. He’s the one being questioned though......? The quitter who played all 82 in his 15th year, hit two game winners, averaging a triple double in the playoffs, 4 40 point games vs. the lil boy who hurt his ankle and knee sitting out almost two months. I wonder just how good curry would be without his superteam? Who does lebron hsvevon his team this year? Wait....who? Wait....I’m confused.....who is the one being questioned in his dedication here? Am I high right now or am I listening to individuals who are watching different years here? Curry NOTHING to prove but lebron everything to prove still? Crazy 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:


    It’s become very clear to me that in this thread and others you are NEVER wrong. You don’t budge an inch man. That’s ok though; whatever makes you feel good, go with it. You and others want to deviate from my point above about curry and Durant and go to the comparisons between MJ and Lebron instead.....It’s weak because any right minded individual knows there is no comparison. Nobody touches MJ so take your hate for Lebron and relax a little. My god bro. If you read in this thread bud, there are multiple idiots who referred to Durant being a better defender throughout his career than Lebron which is absurd so I figured I’d bring up Durant last nite considering he sucked on the defensive side of the ball. Make sense? You say lebron quits and I don’t doubt that in past performances but if you watched the game last nite, you’d know the better team defense didn’t show up and Durant is included in that. He was dogsh@t defensively and in comparing the games and numbers between lebron, curry and Durant in game 2s this week, only a stubborn individual would STILL think lebron is the only quitter in those games. It’s beyond me how a guy who didn’t take any games off this year, who is older in age, provides double digit opportunities for his team to score (those are what we call assists), grabs double digit boards and scores more points than Durant who had no assists (selfish) and 3 rebounds at 7 feet tall. Explain that for me please? 3 boards?! Are rebounds and assists not important? Do they not help the team? Oh but lebron didnt get back on defense and his body language stunk! Haaaaa! Well watch the game last nite dave. Curry played no defense neither did Durant and the “tie breaker” for me is that even though none of those 3 played great defensively, the numbers outdo curry and Durant by a mile. It’s called PRODUCTION so if one has better production why aren’t we calling out the super team mvps with rings in curry and Durant who had less production? Is my point that hard to follow? It’s because you just hate lebron; other than that the argument is crap because I’m referring to apples vs apples. If lebron is getting called out MY POINT IS THAT THE FAVORITES, THE EASY ROAD TAKERS JUST LIKE LEBRON, THEY SHOUKD BE CALLED OUT TOO. This is factual bud. I can argue that Durant is more of a b@tch than lebron. Sure Leveon left for Miami but for Durant to get beat 3 in a row by the warriors and then join the warriors the year after; ITS THE WEAKEST MOVE IVER EVER SEEN IN SPORTS, EVER. Don’t even get me started on curry who sits out almost 2 months for a bs injury so he can get rest. Somehow NOBODY talks about these two; it’s all about Lebron who hasn’t complained one time for the TEAM THAT QUIT ON HIM IN THE OFFSEASON AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. What do I know though? I’ve exhausted my energy here making a very simple point. 
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    It’s become very clear to me that in this thread and others you are NEVER wrong. You don’t budge an inch man. That’s ok though; whatever makes you feel good, go with it. You and others want to deviate from my point above about curry and Durant and go to the comparisons between MJ and Lebron instead.....It’s weak because any right minded individual knows there is no comparison. Nobody touches MJ so take your hate for Lebron and relax a little. My god bro. If you read in this thread bud, there are multiple idiots who referred to Durant being a better defender throughout his career than Lebron which is absurd so I figured I’d bring up Durant last nite considering he sucked on the defensive side of the ball. Make sense? You say lebron quits and I don’t doubt that in past performances but if you watched the game last nite, you’d know the better team defense didn’t show up and Durant is included in that. He was dogsh@t defensively and in comparing the games and numbers between lebron, curry and Durant in game 2s this week, only a stubborn individual would STILL think lebron is the only quitter in those games. It’s beyond me how a guy who didn’t take any games off this year, who is older in age, provides double digit opportunities for his team to score (those are what we call assists), grabs double digit boards and scores more points than Durant who had no assists (selfish) and 3 rebounds at 7 feet tall. Explain that for me please? 3 boards?! Are rebounds and assists not important? Do they not help the team? Oh but lebron didnt get back on defense and his body language stunk! Haaaaa! Well watch the game last nite dave. Curry played no defense neither did Durant and the “tie breaker” for me is that even though none of those 3 played great defensively, the numbers outdo curry and Durant by a mile. It’s called PRODUCTION so if one has better production why aren’t we calling out the super team mvps with rings in curry and Durant who had less production? Is my point that hard to follow? It’s because you just hate lebron; other than that the argument is crap because I’m referring to apples vs apples. If lebron is getting called out MY POINT IS THAT THE FAVORITES, THE EASY ROAD TAKERS JUST LIKE LEBRON, THEY SHOUKD BE CALLED OUT TOO. This is factual bud. I can argue that Durant is more of a b@tch than lebron. Sure Leveon left for Miami but for Durant to get beat 3 in a row by the warriors and then join the warriors the year after; ITS THE WEAKEST MOVE IVER EVER SEEN IN SPORTS, EVER. Don’t even get me started on curry who sits out almost 2 months for a bs injury so he can get rest. Somehow NOBODY talks about these two; it’s all about Lebron who hasn’t complained one time for the TEAM THAT QUIT ON HIM IN THE OFFSEASON AND ALL THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. What do I know though? I’ve exhausted my energy here making a very simple point. 
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    on a different note..... jordan is Jimmy Butler's father???  on you tube they showed a half of each face then put together and boy sure can pass as twins.... also there was his acknowledgment of a child out of wed lock in '88... which is around age Butler is.. interesting stuff 
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    Hey Dave.....good luck to you bud. Rather than babble and provide nothing, sometimes with certain people, paragraohs are necessary. I feel that if I can help someone who obviously needs helps, I will do my best. Like I tell my students and players though all the time, I can’t teach stupid. You either get it or you don’t mr. lightbulb. It’s apparent your bias gets in the way of common sense. How childish is it to denounce black and white because your little heart gets hurt by the MJ comparisons? Again, all the best to you chief. 
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    Hey Dave.....good luck to you bud. Rather than babble and provide nothing, sometimes with certain people, paragraohs are necessary. I feel that if I can help someone who obviously needs helps, I will do my best. Like I tell my students and players though all the time, I can’t teach stupid. You either get it or you don’t mr. lightbulb. It’s apparent your bias gets in the way of common sense. How childish is it to denounce black and white because your little heart gets hurt by the MJ comparisons? Again, all the best to you chief. 
     
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    on a different note..... jordan is Jimmy Butler's father???  on you tube they showed a half of each face then put together and boy sure can pass as twins.... also there was his acknowledgment of a child out of wed lock in '88... which is around age Butler is.. interesting stuff 

    Haaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! Also this just in: MJ fathered a child we never knew of. His name: davesmhjhjgjgjfjkdjfh. Did I spell that right? Oh well. No wonder the hate for LBJ. 
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    on a different note..... jordan is Jimmy Butler's father???  on you tube they showed a half of each face then put together and boy sure can pass as twins.... also there was his acknowledgment of a child out of wed lock in '88... which is around age Butler is.. interesting stuff 

    Haaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! Also this just in: MJ fathered a child we never knew of. His name: davesmhjhjgjgjfjkdjfh. Did I spell that right? Oh well. No wonder the hate for LBJ. 
     
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    I heard about the theories of why MJ abruptly left the NBA...  Some interesting point of views and while doing so I stumbled upon that.  I believe you are from the area and was curious of your thoughts....
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    I heard about the theories of why MJ abruptly left the NBA...  Some interesting point of views and while doing so I stumbled upon that.  I believe you are from the area and was curious of your thoughts....
     
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    So.......I’m curious.....did James quit tonite? Rhetorical question of course (NO) and of course the same for game 2 but I overheard the announcers talk about his stat line these playoffs. I’m doing so they also reiterated multiple times on whether lebron would get HELP. So common sense would say that insinuates the guy is doing it all. Also when talking post game, you hear him say he rebounds, scores, passes, plays defense and plays lots of minutes but after that he said it was his main priority to make his teammmats better and get the best out of them. See....he doesn’t complain even though HIS team quit in him in games 1 and 2; he just took it upon himself. Sounds like a quitter huh? No, not really....

    Oh yeah, here’s his playoff stats:

    33 ppg, 9 rpg, 9 apg and 41 minutes per game. Ohhhhh and he usually guards the other teams best players too.....Sounds like quitter numbers huh? Again, not really......Just thought I’d post this considering it’s niiiiiiiiice and quiet in here. 
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    So.......I’m curious.....did James quit tonite? Rhetorical question of course (NO) and of course the same for game 2 but I overheard the announcers talk about his stat line these playoffs. I’m doing so they also reiterated multiple times on whether lebron would get HELP. So common sense would say that insinuates the guy is doing it all. Also when talking post game, you hear him say he rebounds, scores, passes, plays defense and plays lots of minutes but after that he said it was his main priority to make his teammmats better and get the best out of them. See....he doesn’t complain even though HIS team quit in him in games 1 and 2; he just took it upon himself. Sounds like a quitter huh? No, not really....

    Oh yeah, here’s his playoff stats:

    33 ppg, 9 rpg, 9 apg and 41 minutes per game. Ohhhhh and he usually guards the other teams best players too.....Sounds like quitter numbers huh? Again, not really......Just thought I’d post this considering it’s niiiiiiiiice and quiet in here. 
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2018 - 3:04 PM ET #74

    1st Team All-Defense Rudy Gobert Anthony Davis Robert Covinton Victor Oladipo Jrue Holiday

    2nd Team All-Defense Joel Embiid  Al Horford Draymond Green  Jimmy Butler Dejounte Murray

    no kd or klay. told ya.

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    1st Team All-Defense Rudy Gobert Anthony Davis Robert Covinton Victor Oladipo Jrue Holiday

    2nd Team All-Defense Joel Embiid  Al Horford Draymond Green  Jimmy Butler Dejounte Murray

    no kd or klay. told ya.

     
     
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    Posted: May. 23, 2018 - 3:57 PM ET #75

    Quote Originally Posted by nmate2ooo2:

    1st Team All-Defense Rudy Gobert Anthony Davis Robert Covinton Victor Oladipo Jrue Holiday

    2nd Team All-Defense Joel Embiid  Al Horford Draymond Green  Jimmy Butler Dejounte Murray

    no kd or klay. told ya.


    This isn’t news to me....KD is an average defender. Klay, I actually like but he’s not in either of the categories; no way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nmate2ooo2:

    1st Team All-Defense Rudy Gobert Anthony Davis Robert Covinton Victor Oladipo Jrue Holiday

    2nd Team All-Defense Joel Embiid  Al Horford Draymond Green  Jimmy Butler Dejounte Murray

    no kd or klay. told ya.


    This isn’t news to me....KD is an average defender. Klay, I actually like but he’s not in either of the categories; no way.
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