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Just hope it helps them finish the season off at 62 or more wins.

6 units on cavs over 61 season wins

 
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Don't forget the Magic guys. If I remember correctly, they are the EC defending champions
 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

This is a fucking joke of a deal on par with Lakers/Grizz Great Gasol for Piss Poor Gasol in '08 and should be investigated if Z is bought out only to resign with the Cavs...

This trade hands the Cavs a finals appearance they will most win showing that titles are not earned in the NBA, they are simply bought...Reminds me of a team in pinstripes...

Lakers Championship win in '09 was watered down because of the aforementioned trade and this championship will be as well if the Cavs get Z back (and they may not even need him)...

I won't get into the whole Lebron to NY argument as that has been covered in a myriad of other threads but this 'handout' by the Wiz amounts to seismic shift in the entire 'James trade spectrum matrix' back in Cleveland's favor if they bring a ring to the city giving Lebron the now more favorable option to sign a 3 year deal if he stays then sign a max deal when he's 28, still getting ultra-mega star money...with a ring on his finger, that will be much more tempting and much more villainous if he leaves...

fucking joke of a trade deadline that has now resulted in a predestined NBA champion...I'll watch to see the Nets (hopefully get 10 wins) and make some dough, but otherwise, the trophy has already been hoisted over Lebron's head and it's only February



                         


Cry me a river. You never had a chance at LeBron anyways. Welcome to today's NBA. And this isn't anywhere close to the Yankees. There is a salary cap in basketball and the Cavs are playing by the rules. And if Z happens to come back it wouldn't be the 1st time this has been done. Sour grapes. Sorry your Nets team is a piece of shit organization.

    Thinking drafting John Wall would be enough to get LeBron to sign with the Nets.


            
 
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Cry me a river. You never had a chance at LeBron anyways. Welcome to today's NBA. And this isn't anywhere close to the Yankees. There is a salary cap in basketball and the Cavs are playing by the rules. And if Z happens to come back it wouldn't be the 1st time this has been done. Sour grapes. Sorry your Nets team is a piece of shit organization.

    Thinking drafting John Wall would be enough to get LeBron to sign with the Nets.


            

i wouldnt have been surprised if he did go there, still might if they dont get a ring this year. nets have a lot of money to throw around, plus bron bron is buddies with the owner. personally i think this deal keeps lebron in cleveland though
 
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impressive work by the front office...they have done their job.......

or stern just fixing it for a cavs title...Celts Lakers got theirs recently, now Lebron get his--...then the bulls win next year....this cycle continues, until Durant wins one in 2016

 
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What are they going to do about the commercial with the Kobe and LeBron puppets when they are at the barber shop and Big Z comes in?
 
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Martin/Brooks in the backcourt? Domination or a problem waiting to happen?
 
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19-9 the rest of the way
 
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If Queen James now don't get a ring he should retire from basketball and find another sport. Every year he is bitching about his supporting cast.He had already before the trade a very good supporting cast, at least on the same level as the Lakers.With Shaq and Queen James alone you need to win at least the east. And now with Jamison he has by far the best supporting cast in the league. And with this supporting cast it is a basic obligation to win it all. When Queen James doesn't win it all this year with this supporting cast he will go down as the most overrated and hyped player ever. Not an inch of exuse anymore for Queen James.
 
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For many owners it's just about making money, and not about winning championships.  For years the NFL New England Patriots, when owned by the Sullivans, were pathetic.  Then one day Mr. Kraft took over, and it was night & day different.  The same happend when the MLB BoSox ownership changed hands.  The NHL Bruins don't spend money to win, and they don't have to as it's all about being profitble.  And if they make a profit even if they're in last place, then the loyal fans can only make a statement by not supporting the team they love.

Of course there's always the exception, like the MLB Florida Marlins winning rings, so owners who don't open their wallets to lure the best talent always have that comeback.

Does it matter who the Clippers, Nets or Wizards have on their rosters?  Teams/owners like these can put any 5 guys out there, and they'll still be in business.  After Dallas unloaded a bunch of useless dead weight in Howard and Gooden, I didn't think we'd see a lopsided trade like that for a while.  Sure didn't take long.

Cavs made out like bandits on this trade.  Jamison is a player, and like the Bird's, and Magic's, and Air Jordan's who elevated the play of their teammates, Lebron will elevate Jamison's play.  Now that he's with a contender, the Cavs are a much stronger force to be reckoned with no doubt, and I think Jamison's play will surpass his career best.

Cavs are still a year or 2 away from going all the way.  They do have to jell together first.  Lakers still have too much with Gasol, Odom & Artest on the boards, Fisher the clutch veteran, and Kobe can still neutralize LeBron.  Not to mention the Phil Jackson factor.

Lebron like all the greats, who yes have a solid supporting cast, will eventually get a ring.  And once he gets one, he'll probably get another.  Cleveland is one of those good old American sports cities, that deserves a championship one of these seasons.

Lebron plays so hard every game, and it shows in the team winning all of these regualar season games.  Come playoff time however, not even the King will have enough left in his tank to lead this year's team to the PromiseLand.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by colton:

If Queen James now don't get a ring he should retire from basketball and find another sport. Every year he is bitching about his supporting cast.He had already before the trade a very good supporting cast, at least on the same level as the Lakers.With Shaq and Queen James alone you need to win at least the east. And now with Jamison he has by far the best supporting cast in the league. And with this supporting cast it is a basic obligation to win it all. When Queen James doesn't win it all this year with this supporting cast he will go down as the most overrated and hyped player ever. Not an inch of exuse anymore for Queen James.
Without Lebron, where would the Cavs be?  They wouldn't even make the playoffs.  Now he has by far the best supporting cast?  Sorry, but the Lakers still dominate.  Even Denver, Celtics & Spurrs with Billups, Rondo & Parker have far superior point guards to what the Cavs have.  No way does Shaq these days compare to K-Mart/Nene, K.G. or Duncan.  Add Carmelo/J. R. Smith, Paul Pierce/Ray Allen, Ginobili as a 6th man and those teams have way better support than these Cavs.  In fact, Orlando & Utah may have better support too.

Forget even slightly overrated; If anything Lebron is underrated.  Have you ever seen this man play?  The guy like a week ago scored 35 in a half including 24 straight, including 4 3's in the final 1:55 of the 1st.  Intercepted a pass by D. Wade with time running out in the game, to single handily win the game over Miami not too long ago.  Etc. etc. etc.!

And I don't think Lebron who's making over 15 million U.S. dollars as a base salary, not including bonuses, endorsements, etc. as a kid right out of high school is thinking about excuses for you pal.

 
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In last year's lost to the Orlando Magic LBJ averaged

38 pts  8 rebs and 8 assists

clearly that loss was not on him.  It was on the team and maybe the GM to get better players around this soon to be all-time NBA great!

Now that players are coming around LBJ that can finish (Jammison, Shaq, Hickson, etc..etc..) it is now on the team.

But how can anyone "micro-analyze" and critque someone's game that is so all-around.....pts..rebs..assts...blocks shots..steals..."and a partidge in a pear tree".

Looks like danny ferry is doing his part...now the coach, the team and yes the leader (LBJ) has to produce.

But if they do not succeed it will not mean that LBJ is not a superstar.....I think if he was on Denver (where Melo is) or in LA (where Kobe is)...LBJ would already have a title.  I don't know what's up with Melo....if he is a stud, and I think he is a stud, why can't he get that team to play better than what LBJ had this Cavs team playing prior to the acquisitions (Shaq, Parker, jammison, Hickson, etc..etc..)

LBJ is the man and will be the player of the next decade in the NBA and maybe the athlete of the decade for all sports.

 
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Cry me a river. You never had a chance at LeBron anyways. Welcome to today's NBA. And this isn't anywhere close to the Yankees. There is a salary cap in basketball and the Cavs are playing by the rules. And if Z happens to come back it wouldn't be the 1st time this has been done. Sour grapes. Sorry your Nets team is a piece of shit organization.

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Why would you draft john wall when evan turner is available? Wake up to this guy people
 
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Lebron has a lot to prove this season just like Kobe did last season and now the lakers dont seem to care as much.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mrenigma:

Don't forget the Magic guys. If I remember correctly, they are the EC defending champions


an offensive squad is very unlikely to win a championship.

they have to be en fuego from 3 every single game to make their offense work. That is very unlikely. Same goes for the phoenix suns. Dallas made the biggest improvement with their additions. The playoffs are going to be fun!
 
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and don't underestimate the loss of Big Z.


This guy hit three 3's in OT vs sacramento earlier this season when the cavs outscored the kings 13-0 in OT... i will never forget that. He is a solid big man that is taken for granted IMO.. he is also a great freethrow shooter
 
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Cav's should win a title this year......
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:



an offensive squad is very unlikely to win a championship.

they have to be en fuego from 3 every single game to make their offense work. That is very unlikely. Same goes for the phoenix suns. Dallas made the biggest improvement with their additions. The playoffs are going to be fun!
You hate the magic we know. Just like it was unlikely they can be hot last year right? They werent hot they were good. Magic can easily get back there again. I see a rematch of the finals
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:



an offensive squad is very unlikely to win a championship.

they have to be en fuego from 3 every single game to make their offense work. That is very unlikely. Same goes for the phoenix suns. Dallas made the biggest improvement with their additions. The playoffs are going to be fun!
Magic are 7th in the nba in ppg allowed ( not bad), and 3rd in the nba in fg% allowed. Thats real good.  You keep making shit up about the magic. They can play d
 
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Osirus,

I know you think i hate the magic,and that is simply not true. Tell me the last team that won a championship with a similar % of 3 point shots to total shots that the magic have.. in a 7 game series it is really hard to shoot a high percentage consistently from outside. And not to mention VC who can shoot you out a game by himself.. that and the fact that SVG doesn't let dwight howard expand his game is not good for the magic. The team is just too inconsistent.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nbafan88:

Osirus,

I know you think i hate the magic,and that is simply not true. Tell me the last team that won a championship with a similar % of 3 point shots to total shots that the magic have.. in a 7 game series it is really hard to shoot a high percentage consistently from outside. And not to mention VC who can shoot you out a game by himself.. that and the fact that SVG doesn't let dwight howard expand his game is not good for the magic. The team is just too inconsistent.
Dude you make it seem like they arent even a contender. Do i care about past history and 3pt shooting teams? No. They arent the 2007 warriors who just run down there and jack up 3s. I agree on the vince carter factor but the cavs just dont scare me at all. The lakers do however.  Either way your going to worry about the magic for awhile because howard isnt going anywhere and that alone makes them a title contender.  Once dwade ends up in orlando after carter is gone this year....
 
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As a sport gambler, one rule of thump I learn is that. No team is your forvarite team.  I myself  been gamble for 14Yrs now . And, never a fan of any particular team. Cause you can't bet against them.
 
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36% of orlando's field goal attempts are 3 pointers so far this season

last year it was 33%
2007-2008 it was 32%
2006-2007 it was 29%
2005-2006 it was 29%



 
 
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of course the magic are a contender.
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