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    3BallBomber
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 8:02 PM ET #526

    Quote Originally Posted by scottdawg:

    bomb.... a lot of chatter about foster going around....

     

    League might cover there behind with a gsw win..

    still LOVE clev +6 but not so sure about the ML



    you have 2 sides after gm1:

    1. Cavs look out matched and have no shot.
    2. Lebron bounces back well after gm1 loss in the finals where he is 9-0.

    People think that Foster is sent in for the Cavs win but he is 9-3 for the home team threse playoffs. Perhaps this is Silver slipping a mickey on the unsuspecting public.

    Either way i've made my play. I won't be too upset if i lose the play as my gut was w/ Cavs. But if it wins it'll be a pretty huge revelation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottdawg:

    bomb.... a lot of chatter about foster going around....

     

    League might cover there behind with a gsw win..

    still LOVE clev +6 but not so sure about the ML



    you have 2 sides after gm1:

    1. Cavs look out matched and have no shot.
    2. Lebron bounces back well after gm1 loss in the finals where he is 9-0.

    People think that Foster is sent in for the Cavs win but he is 9-3 for the home team threse playoffs. Perhaps this is Silver slipping a mickey on the unsuspecting public.

    Either way i've made my play. I won't be too upset if i lose the play as my gut was w/ Cavs. But if it wins it'll be a pretty huge revelation.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 8:07 PM ET #527

    My problem is I think we see a gsw win and no cover. I wish you were on ml I would feel better 
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    My problem is I think we see a gsw win and no cover. I wish you were on ml I would feel better 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 8:13 PM ET #528

    Quote Originally Posted by scottdawg:

    Oh no. I don't like this at all because of how much of a pimp you have been so far. I'm already locked in! I thought we were on the same side for sure now I'm kicking myself in the behind lol.

    Best of luck man!



    this game is predetermined. it all now depends on wich side Foster is on. Foster is one of the biggest crooks in the league.

    Keep in mind Cavs also won gm2 last finals & Foster was sent in for that also. surely the league wont make it this obvious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scottdawg:

    Oh no. I don't like this at all because of how much of a pimp you have been so far. I'm already locked in! I thought we were on the same side for sure now I'm kicking myself in the behind lol.

    Best of luck man!



    this game is predetermined. it all now depends on wich side Foster is on. Foster is one of the biggest crooks in the league.

    Keep in mind Cavs also won gm2 last finals & Foster was sent in for that also. surely the league wont make it this obvious!
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 8:23 PM ET #529

    I agree completely. That's why I think gsw wins but so does clev + 6 unfortunately 
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    I agree completely. That's why I think gsw wins but so does clev + 6 unfortunately 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 9:20 PM ET #530

    Damn it 3BB. Hate going against you. But I have to go with my gut. So far it's actually playing out like I thought it would. Should be a close game at the end. Hope it finishes at 6 bro then we both will be happy. Mad respect.
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    Damn it 3BB. Hate going against you. But I have to go with my gut. So far it's actually playing out like I thought it would. Should be a close game at the end. Hope it finishes at 6 bro then we both will be happy. Mad respect.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 9:24 PM ET #531

    Something really interesting. Here's the 1st half stats for both game1 & game2.


    Gm1:

    1h: Cavs 11ft - GSW 2ft. Cavs 7pf - GSW 7pf

    Score:  Cavs 43 -  GSW 52

    Gm2:

    1h: Cavs 11ft - GSW 2ft. Cavs 6pf - GSW 9pf

    Score: Cavs  44 - GSW 52


    Strangely similar. Both FT's the same & score almost the same just a pt different. I find this very interesting.


    What i'm noticing is for a supposed bounce back game for the Cavs and spite of the FT disparity i'm not really seeing much favorable calls for the Cavs. They could have called much more and if so they could have the lead at the half. If this continues we may see another GSW win. Cavs mos def look outmatched even w/ those extra 9Ft's. Let's see how this unfolds in the 2nd half.
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    Something really interesting. Here's the 1st half stats for both game1 & game2.


    Gm1:

    1h: Cavs 11ft - GSW 2ft. Cavs 7pf - GSW 7pf

    Score:  Cavs 43 -  GSW 52

    Gm2:

    1h: Cavs 11ft - GSW 2ft. Cavs 6pf - GSW 9pf

    Score: Cavs  44 - GSW 52


    Strangely similar. Both FT's the same & score almost the same just a pt different. I find this very interesting.


    What i'm noticing is for a supposed bounce back game for the Cavs and spite of the FT disparity i'm not really seeing much favorable calls for the Cavs. They could have called much more and if so they could have the lead at the half. If this continues we may see another GSW win. Cavs mos def look outmatched even w/ those extra 9Ft's. Let's see how this unfolds in the 2nd half.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 9:26 PM ET #532

    Quote Originally Posted by Mortgageguru:

    Damn it 3BB. Hate going against you. But I have to go with my gut. So far it's actually playing out like I thought it would. Should be a close game at the end. Hope it finishes at 6 bro then we both will be happy. Mad respect.


    I believe they don't want a mirror image of last years results where Cavs lose gm1 and win gm2. I think GSW may win this game, covering is another thing altogether but if they do win i could see them covering also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mortgageguru:

    Damn it 3BB. Hate going against you. But I have to go with my gut. So far it's actually playing out like I thought it would. Should be a close game at the end. Hope it finishes at 6 bro then we both will be happy. Mad respect.


    I believe they don't want a mirror image of last years results where Cavs lose gm1 and win gm2. I think GSW may win this game, covering is another thing altogether but if they do win i could see them covering also.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 9:29 PM ET #533

    The bad calls don't start until now


    Gsw is getting pounded at -.5 -120 2h... If I could change my pick I wouldn't 
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    The bad calls don't start until now


    Gsw is getting pounded at -.5 -120 2h... If I could change my pick I wouldn't 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 9:39 PM ET #534

    Curry with 4 fouls already 
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 10:20 PM ET #535

    great play, 3BB!

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    great play, 3BB!

     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 10:28 PM ET #536

    Solid play once again. They only showed that LeBron game 2 stat every chance they could this weekend. Perfect set up for the suckers...not you pleasure to have you here.
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    Solid play once again. They only showed that LeBron game 2 stat every chance they could this weekend. Perfect set up for the suckers...not you pleasure to have you here.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:04 PM ET #537

    Quote Originally Posted by JFelty:

    Solid play once again. They only showed that LeBron game 2 stat every chance they could this weekend. Perfect set up for the suckers...not you pleasure to have you here.
    lol i was one of those suckers all up until 30 mins prior to tip off 


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    Quote Originally Posted by JFelty:

    Solid play once again. They only showed that LeBron game 2 stat every chance they could this weekend. Perfect set up for the suckers...not you pleasure to have you here.
    lol i was one of those suckers all up until 30 mins prior to tip off 


     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:19 PM ET #538

    Stick to yer guns 3 ball, all respect  
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:34 PM ET #539

    Quote Originally Posted by bum:

    great play, 3BB!

    Again no capping needed. Wait for ref assignment and play is given to you 

    I have to gather the record but im around 9+ wins streak on plays based on ref stats. 

    Love this sport & hate that we gotta use these crook refs to determine winners. One day i hope the NBA will be exposed. Until then i'll keep trying tl prove this league is dirty. This is 4 consecutive playoffs now for me relentlesly proving this crap 


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    Quote Originally Posted by bum:

    great play, 3BB!

    Again no capping needed. Wait for ref assignment and play is given to you 

    I have to gather the record but im around 9+ wins streak on plays based on ref stats. 

    Love this sport & hate that we gotta use these crook refs to determine winners. One day i hope the NBA will be exposed. Until then i'll keep trying tl prove this league is dirty. This is 4 consecutive playoffs now for me relentlesly proving this crap 


     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:42 PM ET #540

    Quote Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:

    Again no capping needed. Wait for ref assignment and play is given to you 

    I have to gather the record but im around 9+ wins streak on plays based on ref stats. 

    Love this sport & hate that we gotta use these crook refs to determine winners. One day i hope the NBA will be exposed. Until then i'll keep trying tl prove this league is dirty. This is 4 consecutive playoffs now for me relentlesly proving this crap 



    I came to the same conclusion based on strong logical trends...Cavs go to the line 14 more times than the GSW tonight. Once again, the ref stats are purely coincidental and in fact there were strong conflicting trends that suggested the refs were road(and cav) favorable, which you could argue was true with the 14 extra FT attempts...Cavs simply outplayed. 


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    Quote Originally Posted by 3BallBomber:

    Again no capping needed. Wait for ref assignment and play is given to you 

    I have to gather the record but im around 9+ wins streak on plays based on ref stats. 

    Love this sport & hate that we gotta use these crook refs to determine winners. One day i hope the NBA will be exposed. Until then i'll keep trying tl prove this league is dirty. This is 4 consecutive playoffs now for me relentlesly proving this crap 



    I came to the same conclusion based on strong logical trends...Cavs go to the line 14 more times than the GSW tonight. Once again, the ref stats are purely coincidental and in fact there were strong conflicting trends that suggested the refs were road(and cav) favorable, which you could argue was true with the 14 extra FT attempts...Cavs simply outplayed. 


     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:47 PM ET #541

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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:48 PM ET #542

    i think boston will put up a better fight than gsw
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:49 PM ET #543

    Can you tell me how the refs fixed a 33 point blowout where the Cavs had 14 more FT attempts and Curry had 4 fouls(3 in the first half)...What did they do that had had such an adverse effect on the Cavs?

    This a fair and genuine question, I'm intrigued to know if you can actually explain this rather than just pointing to your strong record(again which I don't doubt, you can pick games based on intuition) 
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    Can you tell me how the refs fixed a 33 point blowout where the Cavs had 14 more FT attempts and Curry had 4 fouls(3 in the first half)...What did they do that had had such an adverse effect on the Cavs?

    This a fair and genuine question, I'm intrigued to know if you can actually explain this rather than just pointing to your strong record(again which I don't doubt, you can pick games based on intuition) 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:50 PM ET #544

    i meant to say cavs not gsw....

    boston plays better team ball than cavs

    also more effort and heart
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    i meant to say cavs not gsw....

    boston plays better team ball than cavs

    also more effort and heart
     
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    Posted: Jun. 5, 2016 - 11:57 PM ET #545

    I posted this trend Under is 74-32-3 in Cavaliers last 109 Sunday games.

    It is now 75-32-3. 

    However as someone pointed out, this dates back to when Lebron played for the Heat and Love played for the T-Wolves. It is purely coincidental yet it hits once again, in the same fashion as you use SU ref stats.

    But I do look forward to your response in regards to my last question, this is genuine insightful conversation here. I'm not bashing you, simply trying to have a constructive debate...ultimately you won't change my opinion and I won't change yours but at least it will leave some food for thought for those on the fence 
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    I posted this trend Under is 74-32-3 in Cavaliers last 109 Sunday games.

    It is now 75-32-3. 

    However as someone pointed out, this dates back to when Lebron played for the Heat and Love played for the T-Wolves. It is purely coincidental yet it hits once again, in the same fashion as you use SU ref stats.

    But I do look forward to your response in regards to my last question, this is genuine insightful conversation here. I'm not bashing you, simply trying to have a constructive debate...ultimately you won't change my opinion and I won't change yours but at least it will leave some food for thought for those on the fence 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 6, 2016 - 12:10 AM ET #546

    nice hit bro! lets keep it going 
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    nice hit bro! lets keep it going 
     
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    yeah baby! rolling through finals. Great job 3Ball if league wants to make this series to 6-7 matches, CLE better win next one.
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    yeah baby! rolling through finals. Great job 3Ball if league wants to make this series to 6-7 matches, CLE better win next one.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiuLungBao:

    i think boston will put up a better fight than gsw

    I still have GS in 7. The series should get more interesting when it shifts to Cleveland. League may even have Cleveland even this thing out for a little fabricated drama. 

    What would shock me is if Warriors sweeps them. I would not see that coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SiuLungBao:

    i think boston will put up a better fight than gsw

    I still have GS in 7. The series should get more interesting when it shifts to Cleveland. League may even have Cleveland even this thing out for a little fabricated drama. 

    What would shock me is if Warriors sweeps them. I would not see that coming.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:

    Can you tell me how the refs fixed a 33 point blowout where the Cavs had 14 more FT attempts and Curry had 4 fouls(3 in the first half)...What did they do that had had such an adverse effect on the Cavs?

    This a fair and genuine question, I'm intrigued to know if you can actually explain this rather than just pointing to your strong record(again which I don't doubt, you can pick games based on intuition) 

    The refs having influence on the game goes far beyond one team having more FT attempts.... Look at how many times Lebron got hacked on the way to the hoop and nothing was called. 

    Look at the no call when JR Smith got elbowed in the mouth, gave up on the play, and led to a wide open Draymond Green dunk (2pts in the book is way better than 2 FT attempts). But when Lebron drove to the basket on Iggy, he got whistled for an offensive foul for shielding the defender off.  Both should have been no calls in my opinion but to the refs, both situations favored GSW. 

    You can't just look at total fouls called and FT attempts to determine which side of the calls are on. You have to look at the total game and especially when one team is building up momentum or not. Momentum plays a HUGE factor in how a team plays.  Remember in Game 1 when the Cavs were on a roll and then the refs went to the monitor for like 10 minutes to check on Iggy's nut shot, only to not call anything?!? They iced the Cavs right there.... But that doesn't show up in the stat sheet. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by simple3:

    Can you tell me how the refs fixed a 33 point blowout where the Cavs had 14 more FT attempts and Curry had 4 fouls(3 in the first half)...What did they do that had had such an adverse effect on the Cavs?

    This a fair and genuine question, I'm intrigued to know if you can actually explain this rather than just pointing to your strong record(again which I don't doubt, you can pick games based on intuition) 

    The refs having influence on the game goes far beyond one team having more FT attempts.... Look at how many times Lebron got hacked on the way to the hoop and nothing was called. 

    Look at the no call when JR Smith got elbowed in the mouth, gave up on the play, and led to a wide open Draymond Green dunk (2pts in the book is way better than 2 FT attempts). But when Lebron drove to the basket on Iggy, he got whistled for an offensive foul for shielding the defender off.  Both should have been no calls in my opinion but to the refs, both situations favored GSW. 

    You can't just look at total fouls called and FT attempts to determine which side of the calls are on. You have to look at the total game and especially when one team is building up momentum or not. Momentum plays a HUGE factor in how a team plays.  Remember in Game 1 when the Cavs were on a roll and then the refs went to the monitor for like 10 minutes to check on Iggy's nut shot, only to not call anything?!? They iced the Cavs right there.... But that doesn't show up in the stat sheet. 
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